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| dan conner User Info... | I need a bigger amp real soon. Funny thing is, I know very little about em. Can anyone tell my the difference between Tubes and others, blah blah, yada yada yada, etc. Don't make fun of me cause I'm dumb! Dan Conner - Sat, 16 Aug 2003 3:37am | ||
| Gray User Info... | well, The word is the tubes give a much warmer and higher quality of sound. However, tube amps cost allot more. A good multi FX rack can help beef up your sound if you want to go with a solid state amp. In my personal opinion the best way to find a good amp is to bring you guitar to the amp you want to try out an plug in. Make sure you set all the bass, mids, and treble EQs to the center an turn off any built in FX. If it sounds good clean it's more likley to sound good with distortion or what have you. Hope that helps ... oh nad one side note, don't shy away from buying a used amp or buying online from a *reputable* dealer. You can often times get a better amp this way. You still want to find a place that sells the same amp and try it out though. - Sat, 16 Aug 2003 3:54am | ||
| KnifeGhost User Info... | I'm come from the school of thought that says that you should just buy a cheap stack that makes you loud.... But for my current band we're renting a Fender DeVille, and it's fucking beautiful.... I would not hesitate to buy that amp if I had the money...... I think Gray pretty well covered it, though.... - Sat, 16 Aug 2003 7:26am | ||
| ticklefish User Info... | I have to admit I am from the opposite school of thought as Knifeghost, but it is all about personal preference. I would rather go with something not as loud but with tone to die for, because if you have a PA, or a power amp and cabinet, the tone you will get out of a $750 all tube 15W amp will blow away the tone from a $1000 100W amp, and if you stick a Shure sm57 in the speaker and run it to a PA, you can get just as loud. But it depends on your style of music. If you're into punk/metal or something really heavy, then a huge setup may be the most important and you can flavour your sound with FX, if you're into more bluesy, down-tempo playing like I am, it is all about tone. - Sat, 16 Aug 2003 1:16pm | ||
| ryan bill User Info... | as a soundman at Logan's I would like to say that there is nothing more economically wasteful than "gear dudes" that spend tons of money on these huge stacks that have shitty, flat tone (marshell dudes I'm looking at you.) played so loud that they shake the paint off the walls. Even the loudest punk band is better off getting smaller amps (with tubes!!), turning them down and letting the soundman mic them and bring them through the monitors and what have you. There are so many more dynamic possibilities to this approach (like being able to distinguish between bass, guitar, and kick drum instead of a din of "graahhhh"). Also those guys who buy the Line 6 amps, or whatever the hell they are called, (the ones with "totally wicked" effects built in that try to laughably simulate tube amps) in my experience don't have a fucking clue what they are doing with their tones. Factory preset effects don't "totally fucking rule" dude. Get a good 1-12 or 2-12 tube amp (which aren't that expensive if you look around) and marvel at the amount of control you will be able to assert upon your musical genius! la la da la !! - Sat, 16 Aug 2003 6:56pm | ||
| KnifeGhost User Info... | Ticklefish, I've been converted by playing the DeVille..... And Ryan, that's kinda funny, cause Jake has a Line 6..... He doesn't use any of the effects, though, or any amp emulation..... Just distortion, and a bit of chorus and wah...... Preset effects blow..... Flat out...... Zoom pedals are the worst pieces of shit ever..... - Sat, 16 Aug 2003 8:32pm | ||
| Elliot User Info... | I strongly recommend trying out many different amps with the guitar that you'll be playing at gigs or whatever. Certain pickups don't sound so great through certain amps, and vice versa. For instance, if you're playing a double humbucker on the bridge all the time, I wouldn't advise using any fender amp, unless you can track down a fender prosonic. Anyways I'm just rambling. But if all you want is volume, just buy a peavey 5150. Good luck. - Sat, 16 Aug 2003 8:38pm | ||
| dan conner User Info... | I have a little beast of a practice amp right now... Peavey 158 Rage... I love it, obviously its not the best, but for the price (like $75 new... haha, great deal) And for what I need it for, its great. is there anyway I could use this through a cabinet? Is it even worth it? Dan Conner - Sat, 16 Aug 2003 10:10pm | ||
| dan conner User Info... | Also, please explain the difference of "overdrive" and "distortion" to me... technical and sound-wise please, hehe I mean, me and my friends practice amps... They have "distortion" on mine, but "overdrive" on his, and they sound VERY similar, but the amps sound different, so it seems to sound like the same effect if run through the same kind f amp, I think it would be VERY close to the same effect. - Sat, 16 Aug 2003 10:16pm | ||
| Kickback User Info... | Look for a tube amp. They're way warmer and just overall more pleasant to listen to. As for your other question Overdrive is smoother, warmer and softer sounding than Distortion which is over the top, harsh and static (which is still cool). Basically an overdrive pedal is supposted to emulate a tube amp that is cranked thus making the tubes overdrive. Distortion is an electronic sound that comes from a pedal or amp. - Sun, 17 Aug 2003 1:32pm | ||
| The Ref User Info... | Unfortunately Ryan Bill, you have run into an age old problem between sound techs and players. True enough that sound systems can do some of the work for a player, but feel is something that it can't do. If the band has a wimpy on stage sound then no matter what the system does, it's gonna sound wimpy because the players "feel wimpy". By the way, not sure what you meant but most marshalls are tube amps. Sorry if I misunderstood you. A monitor can't give the same quality sounds as a slant 4x12 that simple. Even with side fills, it can still seem wimpy to the band if their not loud enough. Also effects the vocalist if they like to sing loud. If its wimpy in volume then more often than not, vocalists end up blowing their voices because they have to back off the mic to compensate and mesh more with the band. On the other hand, there is nothing greater than a band that inderstands dynamics and the potentially great service a sound system and a good tech can do for dynamics. Most of the time, dynamics aren't stressed enough. If it seems too low a dynamic then usually its represented perfectly throuhg the system. - Sun, 17 Aug 2003 2:45pm | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | Having been on both sides of the coin I feel perhaps I can comment with some authority. In theory one should be able to bring a small great sounding amp to a gig and let the tech do the rest but in my considerable experience this rarely is the case. Soundmen would beg me to play my Marshall JCM 900 2x12 combo at about 1 on the master, promising me lots of it in the monitors. It never happened and, as a result, I played dozens of shows (especially at Harpo's) in braille. Finally I gave up and simply adjusted my volume to the volume of the drums. I took care not to go too loud as it can make the soundman's job impossible, but then I often had subhuman vermin masquerading as soundmen all through those years, and so, every once in a while, I turned it up as loud as I damned well pleased. As a soundman I don't mind rockin' bands turning up to the level of the drums provided I can make the drums heard over the din. However if these clowns want me to put them through the P.A. (which in many cases is only about twice as powerful as all the guitar amps on stage) I just laugh at them. If they can't hear at that volume, well, they're deaf anyway so what's the use. Players have to hear themselves or they get cranky; both band and soundman ideally combine to make sure that that is the case. I might also add here that being a live soundman is the absolute shittiest and thankless job in music, so I have SOME empathy. - Sun, 17 Aug 2003 3:04pm | ||
| Colin User Info... | hey dan your not the same guy who hangs the mics in front of the amps instead of properly miking them ? - Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:44am | ||
| colin User Info... | sorry i meant ryan - Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:45am | ||
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