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Nik Olaz
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/4659093.stm

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050707.wunderground0707/BNStory/International/

Fucked up. - Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:56pm
V-DUB
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37 confirmed dead so far. Chapter Two it seems, has started. - Thu, 7 Jul 2005 9:06am
_Griphin_
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I hope they catch the bastards that did it and flog 'em! - Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:02am
lonemonk
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This is what cooperation with the US of A will get you. If england is wise, they will leave iraq tomorrow.

Make sure YOUR government does not poke its nose into other peoples business. I'm not surprised by this attack at all, except why it took so long?

Add the 9/11 dead to these poor bastards and you have (approx) what the US kills every month in Iraq.

It might seem grotesque, but this is fully expected by any person who can think and read. - Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:15am
Nik Olaz
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no one knows necessarily if this has anything to do with Iraq. - Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:14pm
mactac
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" If england is wise, they will leave iraq tomorrow.
"

I think this attitude is short sighted & shallow. It's a heck of a lot more complex than you are suggesting.

of course the obvious problem with this is that you set a precedent. you show that you are willing to change a major foreign policy due to threats from people who do not think like you.

what this means is that they would get whatever they wanted whenever they wanted. I totally support the US's (supposed) policy to not negotiate with terrorists.

if society worked like this, we'd all be in serious trouble.Whomever had the least amount of respect for life & other's property would basically rule society. Ever see road warrior? - Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:21pm
XY-AGHORI
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I say we activate every nuke on the planet , strategically try to hit every highly dense populous on the planet and let Armageddon begin !
And though who survive the atom splitting, vaporizing fire balls , ensuing radioactive fall out, festering pustules, infected burns, days of puking up blood from the ATOMIC SICKNESS ( not a bad band name ? hmm?).

Yea all can kick back and enjoy years and years of atomic winters , a toxic radioactive carcinogenic environment , monsters tectonic shifts , cancer , hunger , anarchy , low oxygen , hungry carnivore mad animals and of course me, cuz I'll be switching to a all protein diet for all my nutritional needs ….

..... that being human flesh, yea see ! I'm hypoglycaemic and you are protein you succulent things and I AINT! ..... going to die . So watch out my compadre , I'll befriend you ,then gain your trust and then Bon appetite ......SUCKER!



………... will in inherit the earth , AMEN !



PS………….. don’t fear the reaper .


LOL ? - Thu, 7 Jul 2005 1:45pm
lonemonk
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You have wonderful points Paul, but I stand by what I said.

Eventually the downtrodden get tired of being killed and they begin to kill. This cycle will always spiral out of control.

I never perform violence or condone it, but I easily understand the frustrations which allow the temptation to arise; It's only human nature. Pushed to the limit, I may react likewise, who knows?

It hardly matters if we find out this is about Iraq or not. Obviously someone is pretty pissed off, and you're gonna go on poking them. What do you think will happen eventually?

I do practice what I preach and have repeatedly encouraged my government to not get involved in Iraq. I will admit to being a tad surprised they decided the way they did and I thanked them for it. Terror attacks could happen in Canada of course, but it's unlikely if we continue to mind our own fuckin business. If Canada were in the same position as England, Damn right I would be demanding that Canada leave Iraq. (Of course I would have been demanding that all along)

Some Foreign policies *need* to change my man. Governments of the world should take events like today as a lesson in the future. If you think governments of the free world have been behaving honourably for the last 50 years then you and I have totally different views of history.

I didn't say I supported this shit, It just does not surprise me one iota.

Society is in big trouble, and you can thank the oil barons, war-mongers and greed-heads of the world.
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_Griphin_
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> If england is wise, they will leave iraq tomorrow.

No, if this is Al-Quada's doing, I hope they mow the country to the ground. I know this seems rather one sided, though. - Thu, 7 Jul 2005 3:45pm
XY-AGHORI
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Denis Leary - I'm an asshole

Folks, I'd like to sing a song about the American Dream. About me. About you. The way our American hearts beat down in the bottom of our chests. About the special
feeling we get in the cockles of our hearts, maybe below the cockles, maybe in the sub-cockle area. Maybe in the liver. Maybe in the kidneys. Maybe even in the colon,
we don't know.

I'm just a regular Joe with a regular job
I'm your average white suburbanite slob
I like football and porno and books about war
I've got an average house with a nic hardwood floor
My wife and my job, my kids and my car
My feet on my table, and a cuban cigar

But sometimes that just ain't enough to keep a man like me interested
(Oh no) No Way (Uh-uh)
No, I've gotta go out and have fun
At someone else's expense
(Oh yeah) Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

I drive really slow in the ultrafast lane
While people behind me are going insane

I'm an asshole (He's an asshole, what an asshole)
I'm an asshole (He's an asshole, such an asshole)

I use public toilets and piss on the seat
I walk around in the summertime saying, "How about this heat?"

I'm an asshole (He's an asshole, what an asshole)
I'm an asshole (He's the world's biggest asshole)

Sometimes I park in handicapped spaces
While handicapped people make handicapped faces

I'm an asshole (He's an asshole, what an asshole)
I'm an asshole (He's a real fucking asshole)

Maybe I shouldn't be singing this song
Ranting and raving and carrying on
Maybe they're right when they tell me I'm wrong

Naaaah!

I'm an asshole (He's an asshole, what an asshole)
I'm an asshole (He's the world's biggest asshole)

[Spoken]
You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna get myself a 1967 Cadillac El Dorado convertible, hot pink with whaleskin hub caps and all leather cow interior and big brown baby seal eyes for headlights, yeah! And I'm gonna drive around in that baby at 115mph getting one mile per gallon, sucking down quarter pounder cheese burgers from McDonald's in the old-fashioned non-biodegradable styrofoam containers and when I'm done sucking down those grease ball burgers, I'm gonna wipe my mouth with the American flag and then I'm gonna toss the styrofoam container right out the side and there ain't a God damned thing anybody can do about it. You know why? Because we got the bombs, that's why.

[Spoken]
Two words. Nuclear fucking weapons, okay?! Russia, Germany, Romania ( Middle East)- they can have all the Democracy they want. They can have a big democracy cake-walk right through the middle of Tiananmen square and it won't make a lick of difference because we've got the bombs, okay?! John Wayne's not dead - he's frozen. And as soon as we find the cure for cancer we're gonna thaw out the duke and he's gonna be pretty pissed off. You know why? Have you ever taken a cold shower? Well multiply that by 15-million times, that's how pissed off the Duke's gonna be. I'm gonna get the Duke and John Cassavetes...
(Hey)
and Lee Marvin
(Hey)
and Sam Pekinpah
(Hey)
And a case of Whiskey and drive down to Texas...
(Hey, you know you really are an asshole)
Why don't you just shut-up and sing the song pal!

I'm an asshole (He's an asshole, what an asshole)
I'm an asshole (He's the world's biggest asshole)

A-S-S-H-O-L-E Everybody! A-S-S-H-O-L-E

[Barking]
Arf Arf Arf Arf Arf Arf Arf
Fung achng tum a fung tum a fling chum
Oooh Oooh

[Spoken]
I'm an asshole and proud of it!] - Thu, 7 Jul 2005 3:48pm
The One After Two
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>No, if this is Al-Quada's doing, I hope they mow the country to the ground. I know this seems rather one sided, though.

Griphin that doesn't make any sense? al-Qaida is a gorup of religious nutters, not a country.

These guys are fucked and not very bright.

What is the point of bombing public transit? What is the message?

These guys are interested only in death... simple death at that. Bombing a transit system is pretty basic and does very little in the giant scheme of life in the Western World.

Who rides Public Transit? Normal working people who were always against the war in Britain to begin with. Who was not hit? The people al-Qaida pretends to hate, driving safely in the SUVs. They got tied up in Traffic, oh darn, I guess they'll pass the time counting the profits from middle eastern oil. Any one of us could inflict the same or more damage, no problem, there just isn't a point and Dancing with the Stars in on.

If al-Qaida was all about making a bold statement and wanted to fuck with our Western Ways, they would have bombed Oil Rigs in Saudi, Oil Ports in Alaska and maybe the Port of Los Angelas all at the same time. In one day, our world economy would collapse and life would suck for EVERYBODY in the Western World... but not many people would be dead and the message would be loud and clear.

They could be real sinister and provoke North Korea into invading the South forcing the uS to move men and material to Asia making it that much easier to win the war in Iraq.

al-Qaida doesn't think of this shit, they just make coward bombing hits that generate the top story on CNN for a day then fade away... the man conintues to dominate the middle east and I still get my latte. - Thu, 7 Jul 2005 4:05pm
moron
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The One After Two, you are assuming that this was actually done by Islamic Militants. A more likely scenario is a black op, either one which encouraged some weak minded types to do it or perhaps one where the whole operation was setup from scratch.

For example:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GF10Ak03.html

"One wonders whether Pentagon black ops are also part of these "forces of evil". In October 2002, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld invented a secret army - one of his pet projects. According to the Pentagon's Defense Science
Board, the goal of Rumsfeld's army - the 100-member, US$100 million-a-year Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group (P2OG) - would carry out secret operations designed to "stimulate reactions" among "terrorist groups", thus exposing them to "counter-attack" by the P2OG. The stock in trade of
Rumsfeld's army is assassinations, sabotage, deception, the whole arsenal of black ops. Iraq is the perfect lab for it. "Iraqification" means in fact "Salvadorization".

Then we have the fact that the Israelis were either warned or knew about the situation before hand:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0507/S00103.htm

This story has changed throughout the day, the looks of a cover up happening. Now the story is that Israel knew days before but Scotland Yard ignored their warning. But the fact is that is that the Israeli foreign minister did not go to his scheduled meeting because he was warned it was dangerous. Someone knew in other words.

Always think who benefits?

Cheers - Thu, 7 Jul 2005 5:08pm
Dr.DoomXXX
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Fuck terrorism. Fuck anyone who defends it. - Thu, 7 Jul 2005 5:09pm
dumpstermesh
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Not to get on your case _griphen_ but your comment isn't one sided, it's near sighted. As alreadly mentioned it isn't the average person living in Iraq that is responsible for these attacks, but guess who is suffering from the US bombings etc..? Just like those poor Brits getting it on the subway. It's like the people in power don't really want to hurt each other, they just want to make sure we get riled up enough to let the war continue. - Thu, 7 Jul 2005 5:17pm
moron
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Hopefully you are including state terrorism in with all that damnation Dr.DoomXXX. If so I totally agree. - Thu, 7 Jul 2005 5:18pm
XY-SATAN
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I say we do a Logan’s run , kill all the yuppie, baby booming , religious right , oil baron , what's in it for me ? , generation . The generation that's had a silver spoon firmly jammed down their throats since their parents of hard working sturdy stock , living through a depression, a war , and sacrificed their lives too bring up a brood of spoiled brats , complainers , thinking of only the holy buck , one of the richest generations ever !!!

…. and send their OWN young people to fight a war that you can’t fight conventionally. To defend rights and liberties that their PARENTS gave up half a generation of young men ( and women) to die in the trenchers , seconds after they hit the shore in the hundreds of thousands . And in turn butcher the Gen –X ers to save their cozy asses for retirement .

Hey boomer, I hope your stock tanks, yea lose your pension , get impudent , have a stroke.

Then THIS generation can take control and make YOU pay your way or better yet join the forces and go fight for this corporate sponsored insanity !



A fucking asshole generation IMHO.

I should say that the terrorists are a symptom of political interference and manipulation of other country’s by western powers and Britain’s at war or maybe you’ve all forgotten this fact ? I’m sure not saying that the terrorists are right , far from it . I’m saying that young people today are still fighting a battle caused by the world wars . But this time instead of hopes to liberate the oppressed like our grand fathers gave up their mortal coil for .
WE are the invaders .

While the towers were burning and collapsing , the US president (government ) was entertaining their business partners …….. the enemy . - Thu, 7 Jul 2005 5:28pm
_Griphin_
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> What is the point of bombing public transit? What is the message?

They were transporting the wounded via double decker when the sucker blew up. I'm not sure why they took out the public transit, in any case they screwed up bigtime. I'm just wondering if they caught anyone who did it on video camera. They did this a year ago in Europe (can't remember where ATM), they do it to scare people so they won't take transit anymore, thereby screwing up the economy of the country, I think. It's funny, cause the British people are used to the IRA bombing them, so there going to work regardless, unless there doing the long weekend thing. Go figure. - Fri, 8 Jul 2005 6:19am
jay brown
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They are used to the I.R.A. bombing them? How many times do you think the I.R.A. bombed the british in britian exactly? Look it up, your more likely to get struck by lightning hiding in your basement. The I.R.A. blew up a lot of people in Ireland, but only a few bombs ever made it to England. For those of you that think the british should pull out of iraq tomorrow, I am just going to hazard a guess you think the americans should do the same. What about all the millions of people there that have stood up and tried to lead normal lives now? You just want to leave them there to get shot and tortured and probably killed? Dont get me wrong I am not saying that the americans are right by any means, but whats done is done. Now how to fix the problem, leaving the country in ruins definitely isnt the productive way to go now is it. but I guess if the british and americans pulled out tomorrow and tons of people died because of it then everyone would have something new to bitch about. fucking americans pulling out of Iraq and letting everyone die. As for the theories about the black ops stuff, I love that conspiracy theory stuff not only does it make great action flicks, but some times it's even true. - Fri, 8 Jul 2005 7:51am
disrupt
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"I'm not sure why they took out the public transit, in any case they screwed up bigtime."

Umm...maybe since the Tube is the most used method of transportation there and people depend on it. If it was going to happen they knew it would happen on the underground. - Fri, 8 Jul 2005 9:59am
Detroit Velvet Smooth
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i wonder what we will all say when it happens on canadian soil. i wonder. - Fri, 8 Jul 2005 2:17pm
ROSS B AY
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exactly. any way you look at it, its' scary, awful, and sucks shit like nothing else. - Fri, 8 Jul 2005 2:26pm
moron
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Hey Jay. The folks in Iraq are getting tortured and killed now, both by Americans and their puppet regime there. You realize that Abu Graib is Saddam's old prison right? Also most of Saddam's old prison staff and police have since been re-hired and are actively torturing the gawd knows how many peeps that the US has disappeared.

For example:

http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_item&itemid=1359

Is the US destruction of Fallujah or any of the cities they have destroyed so far saving those there? Or are they saving the Iraqi's via their dropping napalm on them?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1518793,00.html

Or by dropping 500lb bombs in urban areas?

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L17589494.htm

Or the fact that the US installed police are firing on demonstrators saving them?

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=148617942&p=y486y8648

The US is not helping anyone by staying in Iraq. And they certainly weren't there in the first place for any reasons that have to do with helping Iraqis.

Cheers - Fri, 8 Jul 2005 2:45pm
jay brown
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Oh I know they are getting tortured and killed now Ron.... I just cant help but wonder on what a grand scale people would die there if all of a sudden there was nobody there with a newspaper camera waving an american flag around. I know it's easy to say the americans are the bad guys cause a lot of the time they are, but there are much much worse people out there they just dont get the publicity the americans do. So how to get one bad guy out of the country without handing the country to another bad guy that will kill everyone that tried to do any good there. As for it happening on canadian soil, how do you think white peole got here in the first place. They terrorized a continent full of people. Kill the natives, kill all the buffalo the natives live off of. Give them blankets with smallpox. Herd them on to reservations, then when they are all in one place, kill them.... then take the reservation land back...... Oh ya aint we the civilized ones over here. - Sun, 10 Jul 2005 6:41am
BBJones
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I don't think anything has changed anywhere except that mistreatment now happens behind smiles and political blankets that the public seem to accept.

Those with power and control still screw those without.

That hasn't changed and likely won't for a long time to come, if ever.

Canada by no means stands out above any other country as being better to it's people than any other country. They just do it differently and in less physically obvious ways.

And I get that perspective from 2 minutes of news a month... doesn't take much to figure it out. - Sun, 10 Jul 2005 1:04pm
_Griphin_
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I dunno, apparently someone got annoyed at my comments that were posted about the blasts in Britain. I don't know if the British people deserved what they got from invading Iraq and killing people, Noone deserves to be killed over this, and perhaps those people will have justice done if they haven't killed themselves in the process. - Sun, 10 Jul 2005 3:18pm
jay brown
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well actually the british people didnt invade Iraq, their government did. As everyone knows more often than not the governement doesnt speak for the population, and watching the news over there since the war started Tony blair definitely doesnt speak for the majority of brits. Something I was just wondering about, how liberal minded do you think canadiands would be about all of this if it was our cities bombs were going off in. We are very good at being judgemental of everyone else and sitting on our high horse, but we dont have to see our friends and families bodies being pulled out of a subway tunnel. I wonder how we will react when it happens here. - Mon, 11 Jul 2005 3:30pm
_Griphin_
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Oops...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4676577.stm

London bombers 'were all British' - Tue, 12 Jul 2005 5:34pm
jay brown
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wow, they were British, I dont know why it matters at all where they were from but that really suprised me. - Tue, 12 Jul 2005 7:13pm
Inhalien
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Here's some interesting articles to read - draw your own conclusions on the bombings...

How to
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/130705teneasysteps.htm

Bus Camera malfunctioned
http://propagandamatrix.com/articles/july2005/130705buscamera.htm

Stations closed before explosions
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/120705stationclosures.htm

Emergency exercises in-practice when bombs went off
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/120705importantquestions.htm - Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:10am
Detroit Velvet Smooth
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the were pakistany (sp?) decent but british citizens. still a fucking bunch turbin twistin' taxi drivers. - Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:01am
jay brown
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tunbin twisting taxi drivers? You racist piece of shit.... too bad you werent on the subway when the bomb went off. - Wed, 13 Jul 2005 1:16pm
Mi*coll*
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Moron:

"More likely it was a black op", you say? How is that in any way likely, let alone more likely. Do you truly believe that the US gov't is capable of covering up something of that magnitude when Karl "the Genius" Rove can't even cover up his leak to the press? Are any American soldiers going to be willing to blow themselves up to kill Britons, their allies? No fucking way. Someone would tell someone. You are just the kind of dummy who believes whatever they see on Fox and read on the internet. The US never landed on the moon, right? Haha.

Your second post regarding this being a legitimate answer to the invasion of Iraq is similarly crap. 9/11 happened BEFORE Iraq, you will note. I agree that Arabs have legitimate grievances with the US, but Al-Qaeda et al. is a religious movement primarily. Their goal is to institute Islamist law over the ENTIRE world. They do not tolerate liberal Western values, and that is as big a part of the equation as are the legitimate grievances. - Wed, 13 Jul 2005 7:43pm
jay brown
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actually Iraq happened many years before 9/11 it's just george senior didnt win so his ever loving son went back. As for Al-Qaeda, Osama Bin Laden has said before that his real fight is with Isreal, but America protects them so he has to destroy america first. - Wed, 13 Jul 2005 8:45pm
ML7Mike
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"still a fucking bunch turbin twistin' taxi drivers"

Your saying the Sikh's did this?

. - Thu, 14 Jul 2005 7:27am
Mi*coll*
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Mr. Brown.

You will recall that Bush did win the first Gulf War, in fact. But I doubt that many Islamists were too upset about that because Saddam was himself an infidel. It's the occupation by Bush II that they hate.

Bin Laden tries to politicize his message for consumption in the west, but the Islamists are ultimately a religious movement. They want to dispatch all the infidels and live under their Koranic law. - Thu, 14 Jul 2005 8:24am
Detroit Velvet Smooth
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sorry there you 'puck chasing moosefucker', i've got my slurs mixed up sorry.

check these out incase you you get confused Hoser.

http://www.johncglass.com/racialslurs.htm#add

http://www.i-boards.com/bnp/pob/messages.asp?MsgID=478739&ThreadID=46608&IsResponse=True

http://www.rsdb.org/?2 - Fri, 15 Jul 2005 9:45am
jay brown
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well I dont fuck moose, I eat them... yummy stuffs. As for hockey I dont play it, I suck on ice skates. I used to like watching it though..... Your still a racist piece of shit though. - Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:50am
Detroit Velvet Smooth
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Racist yes but.. doesn't change the fact that a couple of waki paki's killed 50 Crumpet-Stuffing Tea-wops
your still a guero. you vanilla gorilla. - Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:09am
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