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Why copyright?
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| Spark User Info... | Okay so I know it sounds like a really stupid question, buy why on earth do we have copyright laws? I mean, if you couldnt own music wouldnt it mean that in order for people to come to your shows youd have to be a great performer? wouldnt it also mean that the mass music cooperate would have to offer more than suger pop bullshit just to make a buck. And are we really all that worried that someone will steal our songs? If someone plays your song and makes it famous is that not flattering? Now the song you wrote is played all over the radio around the world. So what if you dont get the credit, you know you wrote it, you should ask yourself did you write the song for yourself or did you write it to get famous? If a great cover band came to vic covering a band you love would you consider that stealing the bands music or would go see them because what really matters is hearing a song you love played by a band of great players? just ramblings of a stoned guitarist.......... - Thu, 28 Jul 2005 6:32pm | ||
| jay brown User Info... | thats retarded if the song you wrote is played all over the world and you dont get credit then some other prick is living in a mansion and banking all the money and your still slaving away month to month.......... now that's not fair at all. what if let's say Nike took your song and used it in a commercial all over the world but because you didnt legally own it they didnt have to pay you a dime for it, and they could also copyright it then you could never lay claim to it again, once again, thats not fair. the list goes on and on, it doesnt matter if you ever get rich off your music, the point is, it's not fair for someone else to steal it and get rich off it. - Thu, 28 Jul 2005 6:58pm | ||
| Spark User Info... | well, what I mean is why do we have copyright laws at all? Sure, its not fair for someone else to own your creation but isnt it a little absurd that you can "own" music anyways? so nike took your song then addias takes it and so on and so on, all that will really matter is that you wrote it and people will want to hear it from you because you play it and sing it like no one else. You can still make money playing music without owning rights to it. If youre good thats all that should matter, not some digitially modified compressed version of what you will never sound like live. Plus theres merch, shows, teaching, touring, busking, etc. to make money on. Do you download music on the net? Do you feel thats stealing? have you ever bootlegged? This is just my opinion and im curious to know why people are so for copyrighting. - Thu, 28 Jul 2005 7:40pm | ||
| jackass User Info... | copyright laws protect more than just music. You can't copyright an idea, but you can copyright an idea reduced to practice. That means if you figure something out and can make it work, then you copyright your idea to keep others from capitalizing on your brilliance, time, money and hardwork. - Thu, 28 Jul 2005 7:55pm | ||
| Spark User Info... | And why the hell would you want to do that?? Do you think its fair that if someone discovers a cure for cancer, they own exclusive rights to the way they cured it so that no one else can use the same method? The Idea of copyrighting is only three hundred years old, started in england (the statute of anne) as a way to censor writers from writing about what ever they wanted. Artists, musicians, and authors were creating LONG before that time and they were making money and getting famous. - Thu, 28 Jul 2005 8:03pm | ||
| Spark User Info... | Sorry to rant on like this but also, "copyright laws protect more than just music." copyright laws dont protect music, they dont protect anything. they prevent others from using the same ideas as you. If you come up with a band name (eg. the erect nipples) say on august 23rd, 2005 and I come up with that same name in september but you copyright it in august, years later when I become famous why should you be allowed to sue me for rights to a name, A NAME FOR CHRISTSAKES. when I came up with it on my own just at a different time? - Thu, 28 Jul 2005 8:11pm | ||
| alain User Info... | I don't know that this is really going anywhere. I can agree with you on some small points, but really, why? There are a million terrible things in the world, why waste your time dealing with copyright laws? But hey, I'm an idiot, don't listen to me. - Thu, 28 Jul 2005 9:23pm | ||
| jay brown User Info... | I agree things like a cure for cancer or genes etc.etc. shouldnt be allowed to be owned by anyone. stuff like that should be the property of everyone. Every time a company discovers one in their research they register it as an invention and they own it. Weird huh, now not only will big business own everything we consume in our daily lives but soon they will in fact own the human body as well. Then it gets to the tricky part, if a company owns the genes who's to legally stop them from doing the things some of them want to with human genes. Odd little problem, we map out the human genome for the good of mankind to cure disease and such but along the way all these companies get ther hands on the building blocks of life and just sort of slide that in the back door while nobodies looking. - Fri, 29 Jul 2005 4:31am | ||
| Spark User Info... | Hey Alain, to answer your question, "why waste my time on things like copyright laws?" I think Jay Brown answered that best. Copyright laws affect almost every aspect of our lives, its fundemental to our capitalist democratic way of life. Also, music is a huge part of my life. I live and breathe it and nothing affects the free creation of ideas through music so much as copyrights, so its pretty important to me. Is it not important to you? - Fri, 29 Jul 2005 7:02am | ||
| alain User Info... | I shouldn't be so quick to run my mouth and give off that arrogant don't care about anything attitude. I still believe that there are bigger problems out there than music copyright. I do think it's absurd to some extent, but whatever. I don't forsee music copyright laws getting in my way. I agree, they're not always very useful, but they're not always very harmful either. As for other copyrights, I do agree, it can be pretty horrible. I don't think it's the copyright laws that are the problem though. It's just another law, and lawyers know how to deal with the law. They know how to get around the law, and make the law, and all that goodness. There's a problem that goes beyond copyright laws. The problem being that many laws have been put up with good intensions and such, but too many people abuse the law. By the way, if you havn't watched 'corporation' yet, you should. There's some good stuff in there about copyrighting, and how they have succeeded to own living things already. They may be small living things, but an entire 'species', lets say, is owned by a corporation. And again, it wasn't that, by law, you could own living things as copyright. It's that you could find a way to convince people that you could. And they did, and now it's possible, not because of copyright laws, but because of the people who manipulated them. - Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:36am | ||
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