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Exaggeration and misinformation
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| Zedius User Info... | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXm_27i4lnw According to the poster the cops' actions were swift and uncompromising. That's not what I see in the video... I see people resisting the cops request to leave, wasting the time they are given, and then resisting arrest. They're kinda flopping around like toddlers. Correct me if I'm wrong. You can draw your own conclusion, but this kind of crap just gives me less respect for their side of things. "Shame shame shame!" - Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:35pm | ||
| Doc User Info... | I see people ignoring the police request that they leave also, and wasting the time that they are given to do so. Beyond that, I do NOT see the campers resisting arrest, rather they appear to be resorting to passive resistance which as far as I know is not the same thing. Further to that, the police response seems to be appropriate as well, even to the point where you hear one cop tell DAJ why he's being arrested. From what I saw, the police were courteous to the extent that the situation allowed, I heard several of them call DAJ Dave in a familiar and not unfriendly matter, I heard repeated use of the word please by the police. All in all I think it went over quite well. ~Keeping the world safe from democracy. Doc - Wed, 22 Oct 2008 1:13am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Ahha. Daj in jail, Trevcore on the way to enjoy Neil Young from the richness and privilege of a corporate luxury suite. I like my "choice" better. Bite me. Oh yeah, one more little tidbit, mah tickets didn't cost a dime. I'll have a drink for you Davey boy. Enjoy your cell. - Wed, 22 Oct 2008 1:21am | ||
| Mofo User Info... |  Those hippies (and their hippy larvae) wouldn't know oppression if it slapped them in the face with a brick. Please spare us your so obviously VAIN attempts at portraying yourself as being ill-treated. As SOON as the cop affected the arrest, the blonde guy started crying like Nancy Kerrigan! Fucking whiny bitch! How do David's balls taste you fuckin chimp? (Hobo nutsack....there's a nasty visual). Peaceful protest is fine and obviously quite democratic. However, if given the choice between allowing you and your hippy cronies to camp out in the public park that I and my other working class brothers and sisters paid for, OR lighting my face on fire...Somebody better be standing by with a bucket of cold water. I WON't stand for this drivel any longer. I intend to employ the VERY SAME rights you claim to have trodden on. You think you know the law? Fuck you for thinking that social change has anything to do with your own perverse visions of truth. Fuck you for confusing truth with LAZINESS. And FUCK YOU at 7AM...when the long dick of the law pokes its ugly cock through your tent and wakes your hippy ass up; That's right Mother Fucker, you feel that prodding and poking? Thats the few remaining rights I have as a citizen have left waking your lazy ass up! You want a free society? You want to have everything but pay for nothing? You want running water and sanitation to clean your filthy, lazy ass? You want warm meals 3x daily to feed your stomach and fuel your mind? You want shelter in a public park when there is already(in most cases) emergency shelter readily available? You want to LEECH off the public purse to do all of the above because you are too fucking LAZY to do it yourself? Aside from confusing oppression with FUCKING LAZY... Why don't you wish in one hand and shit in the other? See which one fills up first there Davey! Maybe if you practice and good at it (cause you sure as fuck have lots of time to do so) you might actually come to the realization that you aren't so oppresed after all; what with all time and FREEDOM to do so in the first place! FUCKIN GARDEN SLUGS HAVE MORE USE THAN YOU! - Wed, 22 Oct 2008 9:25am Edited: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 9:29am | ||
| BBJones User Info... |  DAJ: "Letting them move us now... is letting criminals get away with murder" Nice comparison crazypants. Idiot with the pink necklace: "they arenn't going to obay the ruling... they aren't going to let (them) sleep...". It's 2:30 in the afternoon there zippy. ROFLOMGPWWNNZZ!! that nose hold on the blonde dude HAHA! SHAME SHAME!! That should have been the cops saying that... Buddy doing handstands in front of the camera while people are being arressted sure doesn't help their credibility. Random Twit: "You have no authority here!" Haha! My only complaint... the video was only 10 minutes long. - Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:49am | ||
| mikey User Info... | While I support your right to live your life the way you want to, in accordance to the 'harm none' philosophy, I doubt that your right to sleep during the day is protected by the constitution. - Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:06am | ||
| Jl User Info... | I love that nose hold; that was pretty fucking hilarious... I also love the idiot who yelled out "abuse of tax payer's dollars"... How could they claim abuse of tax dollars when they dont pay into taxes? lol. And besides I dont mind my tax dollars going towards cleaning up our parks. thankfuly with 85 new beds amoung the city there should be no reason for the handful of lazy fucks in the park to HAVE to camp outside! - Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:13pm | ||
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| Jl User Info... | lol, he learned that move from anderson silva... copy cat :S - Wed, 22 Oct 2008 3:17pm | ||
| DOOMHAMMER User Info... | Stupid video - Wed, 22 Oct 2008 3:23pm Edited: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 3:24pm | ||
| Endeløs User Info... | Stupid tent dwelling scum. Stupid waste of the VPD's time. Stupid pipe dream of a stupid waste of flesh known as DAJ. - Wed, 22 Oct 2008 3:55pm | ||
| J. Peatman User Info... | Sounds like someone is definitely in a celebratory mood! Happy Birthday Endeløs!! - Wed, 22 Oct 2008 4:36pm | ||
| Comrade Black User Info... | "thankfuly with 85 new beds amoung the city there should be no reason for the handful of lazy fucks in the park to HAVE to camp outside" Brilliant analysis yo! what's the current homeless count for victoria again? 1300? yup 85 shelter beds will definitely cover that. Think what you like about DAJ or tent city, or any of this, infact I am sure most of you don't really give a crap either way, and would never do any more than post on a web-forum that hardly any one out of your circles reads... BTW, Doesn't it worry anyone how the city was able to just write a new bylaw to suit their needs after the old one was deemed unconstitutional? especially considering that that the whole matter is still in court? - Mon, 27 Oct 2008 2:11am | ||
| Doc User Info... | Doesn't bother me. That's the joy of our system, the legislative and judiciary branches of government are completely independant of one another. Besides, the new by-law allows people with no alternative to set up their temporary shelters, it jusr places a reasonable time limit on them. If these people are going to act like spoiled children, then I see no reason why they should not be treated as such. ~Keeping the world safe from democracy. Doc - Mon, 27 Oct 2008 2:45am | ||
| Mike User Info... | 'and would never do any more than post on a web-forum that hardly any one out of your circles reads...' I think there are alot of lurkers on livevictoria.. apparently the site has been known to get 1000's of hits per day, so thats a big circle. Homeless people do not bother me, or most people. Chumps like DAJ who are perfectly capable of working, but choose to talk down to those of us who do as minions of the evil system, whilst leeching off the same system make me want to puke. Everytime he posts something here from his 'free' computer with its 'free' internet connection while he sits in an out reach center or the like, where the rent is paid for by the system, while munching on soup donated by the tax payers, now thats Bullcrap.. screw that loser and his agenda. Save the beds and tent spaces for those that really need them. And of the 1300 or so homeless on the streets of VIctoria, Id like to hear the breakdown of that stat, how many of these (especially younger ones ) actually have homes and supportive families but have chosen to abandon them for their 'street family', screw them too. You even see some them on the news, their families offering them everything they need to get a foot up, but nope they'd rather beg and leech and mooch. Meanwhile so many of these lazy leech moochers sucking the resources dry and the truly needy, the elderly, the mentally inept, the heavily addicted, the handicapped, they lose out because the tax payers are so sick of hearing about assholes like DAJ that they forget to differentiate between the two and lump them all into the same pile. - Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:55am | ||
| bbjones User Info... | Getting accurate stats on the number of homeless is a big part of the problem. From all the reading I've done this year, this is how I understand it: - There are approx 1,500 "homeless" - A majority of that number are techincally homeless, but do not sleep on the streets (i.e. they couch surf) - For the hardcore homeless/ill and addicted, it is believed that there ARE enough emergency/shelter beds available right now. - There are continously more and more shelfters and programs coming together to increase the avaialble resources for people that need it. No, the programs are not perfect and it will take years but it is moving in the right direction. Now, my personal opinion and experience also tells me there is an increasing number of vagrants and transients that come out here. This includes "meth kids" that simply defy society and choose to live on the streets to escape mommy and daddy's "rules". I personally belive, that if all of the tards that THINK they are homeless actually went back home, there would be ample supply of beds and services for those that really need it. If I ever became homeless, the first thing I'd do would be to take out all the douche bags pretending to be homeless that were eating up my services. But don't get me wrong... I don't care about homeless issues right? - Mon, 27 Oct 2008 4:03pm Edited: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 4:06pm | ||
| LilyVon User Info... | Why do people cry abuse of power and shit when they have caused the so called 'abuse of power'. If they had just complied with the police it would have been a non issue. Like the police all get together and say hey you know what we could do for shits and giggles, we could rough up some homeless tent dwellers. (OK so maybe some do, but certainly not all). I bet if you asked some of them they'd be for the homeless' right to have a tent city. The police are doing a job. They have to do what they are ordered to do. It's your fault if you get your dumb ass hauled away for acting like a 2 year old by throwing a temper tantrum on the ground. There was no abuse of power, or forceful removal. You didn't get tazed did you? They used as much force as was necessary to get you off the ground and to the station. GET OVER IT. Protesters and their BS Crying Wolf, Comply with the law and things will work out fine. - Mon, 27 Oct 2008 5:52pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | "Brilliant analysis yo! what's the current homeless count for victoria again? 1300? yup 85 shelter beds will definitely cover that" if your were able to comprehend what i wrote; you would've known that I was SPECIFICALLY speaking of the inhabitants of "tent-city" @ beacon hill park; which did not top out at 85; therefore, if they have the motivation, there are more beds. Im not implying 85 shelter beds are gunna solve the problem if that's what you think. Thanks for comin' out! "Think what you like about DAJ or tent city, or any of this, infact I am sure most of you don't really give a crap either way, and would never do any more than post on a web-forum that hardly any one out of your circles reads..." You know you're probably right; but why would I let your opinion stop me from voicing mine? It certainly hasn't stopped you or Daj. So... what's your point? unless you have a solution to the problem; stop judging us for not having pity for those that want everything for nothing. - Mon, 27 Oct 2008 8:44pm | ||
| stew User Info... | "BTW, Doesn't it worry anyone how the city was able to just write a new bylaw to suit their needs after the old one was deemed unconstitutional? especially considering that that the whole matter is still in court?" Carte Blanche use of the parks would likely result in a degenerating situation of violence, drug abuse and waste problems ala Cridge Park - outcomes neither the right to sleep camp nor the public want to see happen. - Tue, 28 Oct 2008 9:21am | ||
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