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Are you an American?
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| XXX | You probably missed it in the rush of news last week, but there was actually a report that someone in Pakistan had published in a newspaper an offer of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American. So an Australian dentist wrote the following to let everyone know what an American is, so they would know when they found one: An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish, Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be Canadian, Mexican, African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, or Arab, or Pakistani, or Afghan. An American may also be a Cherokee, Osage, Blackfoot, Navaho, Apache, Seminole or one of the many other tribes known as native Americans. An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or Muslim. In fact, there are more Muslims in America than in Afghanistan. The only difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of Them chooses. An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God. An American is from the most prosperous land in the history of the world. The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of Independence, which recognizes the God given right of each person the pursuit of happiness. An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every other nation in the world in their time of need. When Afghanistan was overrun by the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans came with arms and supplies to enable the people to win back their country. As of the morning of September 11, Americans had given more than any other nation to the poor in Afghanistan. Americans welcome the best, the best products, the best books, the best music, the best food, the best athletes. But they also welcome the least. The national symbol of America, The Statue of Liberty, welcomes your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the homeless, tempest tossed. These in fact are the people who built America. Some of them were working in the Twin Towers the morning of September 11, 2001 earning a better life for their families. I've been told that the World Trade Center victims were from at least 30 other countries, cultures, and first languages, including those that aided and abetted the terrorists. So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did General Tojo, and Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tung, and every bloodthirsty tyrant in the history of the world. But, in doing so you would just be killing yourself. Because Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American. - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:00am | ||
| Anonymous | No. I'm a Canadian. D'uh!! - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:19am | ||
| Aja Robb User Info... | hmm sounds like a american wrote that.. - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:21am | ||
| Anonymous | Subject: Finally somebody says it right. (Written by an Australian.) You probably missed it in the rush of news last week, but there was actually a report that someone in Pakistan had published in a newspaper an offer of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American. So an Australian dentist wrote the following to let everyone know what an American is, so they would know when they found one: - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:35am | ||
| Anonymous | Yes, read that but it still sounds like a patriotic american wrote it. - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:41am | ||
| Jason User Info... | Thank you for that rather lengthy peice of shit. I have to puke now... - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:42am | ||
| Anonymous | "An American is generous"?? haha. Its called investing in advance with an eye on the big cash bonanza down the road. - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:47am | ||
| Anonymous | "They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom." As long as you don't dissent. - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:50am | ||
| Lurker User Info... | Don't forget: An American is someone who carries lots of guns and uses them to kill other Americans. - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 1:17am | ||
| Anonymous | HAHAHA, I have over 50 guns here and the governemt knows nothing about them. I can make many weapons within a machine shop just like the americans. Just beware, I live next door...... - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 2:12am | ||
| Anonymous | you sir are worthy of investigation theres someone into guns and then theres you why so many guns? - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 2:16am | ||
| Anonymous | To arm all my friends and neihbors in case of an invasion or police/government take over, canadian civil war, and so on. Also have designs of many surface to air weapons. Everything can be made from tools and materials available right here in BC. I hope to have over 5,000 guns, 120,000 rounds of amo, bombs, mortars, concussion granades, and several canons. All buried safely in special cases. - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 2:18am | ||
| Anonymous | is yer last name hussien? - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 2:32am | ||
| Anonymous | worthy of investigation??? Why? I've never committed a crime! Why should I lose my right to privacy when I've done nothing wrong? Is this turning into a communist country? My life is not the governments business. - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 3:27am | ||
| Virge User Info... | An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God. That's just plain funny. An American is from the most prosperous land in the history of the world. The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of Independence, which recognizes the God given right of each person the pursuit of happiness. Even if it tramples on others pursuit of happiness. Fucking hypocrite - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:27am | ||
| gibson | my father and i are canadian,my grandfather american, my great grandfather irish. on my moms side , mom is canadian, grandfather is german and great grandfather is russian So i guess i'm american. So Go USA! keep our world free! - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:22pm | ||
| Anonymous | FUCK the USA. They had the WTC bombing coming, big time. and they deserve MORE, and they will get more. My oldest brother is Muslim, like me, but he lives in Tashkent, and knows things. you are all very DNGEROUS territory. - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 5:54pm | ||
| Happy Cat | Gee your in a good mood.... - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 6:11pm | ||
| Brad | Whats a muslim? - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 7:48pm | ||
| Anonymous | Isn't it a kind of fabric? Oh no, that's muslin. - Wed, 26 Mar 2003 9:14pm | ||
| Anonymous | gosh,your so funny! - Thu, 27 Mar 2003 1:11am | ||
| Anonymous | "my father and i are canadian,my grandfather american, my great grandfather irish. on my moms side , mom is canadian, grandfather is german and great grandfather is russian" so your granfather's an imperialist pig, your great gfather a drunk, other gfather a nazi kraut, and other gr-grandfather a bolshevik Commmie infidel. you have roots to be proud of you euromulatto. - Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:15am | ||
| Dont piss me off | - "my father and i are canadian,my grandfather american, my great grandfather irish. on my moms side , mom is canadian, grandfather is german and great grandfather is russian" so your granfather's an imperialist pig, your great gfather a drunk, other gfather a nazi kraut, and other gr-grandfather a bolshevik Commmie infidel. you have roots to be proud of you euromulatto. - Thu, 27 Mar 9:15am You a proud ingorant fuck. And a racist of the Saxon race. I would pleasure myself in kicking your ass, splitting your head on a curb, cutting a deep slit in your side and gut fucking you silly!!!!! - Thu, 27 Mar 2003 7:21pm | ||
| Anonymous | and if your healthy enough, firing up the BBQ. - Thu, 27 Mar 2003 7:25pm | ||
| XY-SATAN | If you're born in Canada "you are Canadian" no matter where your relatives are from ! I get sick of people calling themselves (add race here) Canadians . That's one thing the Americans have right ! And I don't think you can be American/Canadian, not unless you're indigenous , but what the fuck do I know . - Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:05pm | ||
| Anonymous | HEY!"Don't piss me off". Wow i didn't realize i was so racist. thanks for pointing that out. i guess i can say i was born into it so its not my falt. what are you a nigger or some paki cab driver or something. ahhh,you must be poor white trash. that would make sense. - Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:14pm | ||
| The Provider User Info... | Do you know what would make this world an absolutely incredible place to live? If that bullshit the Aussie wrote was true.... hell even if it was 90% true, we would all be living in peace. But we are not living in a peacful or incredible world. Do you know why? Because it is BULLSHIT. - Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:31pm | ||
| Anonymous | Canada = America Light - Fri, 28 Mar 2003 2:31pm | ||
| Spark | la la la , fuck off - Fri, 28 Mar 2003 4:08pm | ||
| Human | I am a Canadian, and proud of it. This Nazi mother fucker with his racist views should be taken out, stripped of all of his clothes and marched through the street for everyone to see! Arm ourselves with rotten eggs etc... and let him wear it all. I would pay good money to take part in that stoning! Guns or no, if you were man enough, and so proud of yourself, you wouldn't be affraid to include your email address so the rest of us could create a constant stream of hate mail directly at you! Fucking coward, show yourself! I would love to see you bleed! Stay hidden you sick fuck! There are people like me out there that wouldn't hesitate to take you out! The World would be a better place for it too! Dink! - Fri, 28 Mar 2003 4:29pm | ||
| Human II | Call me a nigger to my face, you fucking coward! - Fri, 28 Mar 2003 4:36pm | ||
| Anonymous | instead of stripping the racists of all their clothes and marching them through the streets for all to see, we should gather them all up and put them in a small room and fill the room with gas or poison or something. while we're at it, let's get rid of those jews as well. i really fucking hate jews. - Fri, 28 Mar 2003 9:54pm | ||
| Anonymous | SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! Don't you people understand that woman and small children who have been livivg with nothing are being bombed right now? Are you all really so obtuse that all you can do is insult each other ??? This is a time to get over this trite, superfluous bickering and think about what we can all do to make this war stop !!! I feel really sad for all of you! - Sat, 29 Mar 2003 1:24am | ||
| Human III | You're right! Any suggestions? I have done what I can. Marched, protested, sent letters to my MLA. We didn't start it. The US wants it, and we all know, "what the US wants, the US gets!" (That's the US government) Exemption from war crimes prosecution, loop holes through the yin yang when it comes to nafta etc... A huge devouring monster that eats up everything in its path! - Sat, 29 Mar 2003 1:56am | ||
| Nicholas Antoni Marek Gibas User Info... | the problem with human beings is that were always searching for things to be "better". Things will never be "better", and things will never be "worse". - Sat, 29 Mar 2003 1:56am | ||
| Anonymous | what we can do to make this war stop?! hey. just keep in mind, PEACENIKS ALSO HELPED HITLER - Sat, 29 Mar 2003 1:58am | ||
| gibson | What? i was born canadian but my roots are from all over, what was my mother suppose to marry an arab, would that make me less white??? my parents are in there 70's . 70 years ago the irish married the germans, cause that what was availible in our country. that was a multicutural wedding in those days. my great great grand father and all his family had to flee germany during the first world war. they snuck out of the country and boarded a ship full of hundreds of other people. they spent six weeks at sea.my great great grandfather died at sea. they landed in america(the land of the free) america took them in, gave them there landed imigrant cards and my grand father worked in the US untill he made enough money to buy land in canada. simular story for the irish side of my family. America(USA) gave my families hope for a brighter future. So i supoort the US. with out them i wouldn't have come into this world. The US is the most multicutural country in the world,it is made up from people from around the world. including canadians. so this makes me a white racist pig....right. i think not. i want to live in a world that is free and peacefull. - Sat, 29 Mar 2003 2:00pm | ||
| Ref | I think you missed the point of the discussion. What is at issue is how the US has chosen to approach this Iraqi situation! What is you say is comparable to "communism is a great idea on paper, but it doesn't really work!" Sure the US is multicultural, but that doesn't mean that it is still not one of the most devided countries when it comes to racism and biggotry! It is a well known fact that the Bush administration has a menifest destiny! They want the world to be just like them. Unfortunately, that's not possible! It's wrong to force your beliefs on others! Let me make myself clear in this, I am not against the American people, far from it. I think that for the most part they are honorable people. I am however, against the Bush administrations attempts to take over the world! It is well known that Rumsfield, Wolf?? and his cronies have been planning this for many years. The mistake was attacking the US on 09/11. Up until that point, Rice and Powell had things under control and had the ear of The President. After 9/11, they were put in the back seat and Rumsfield and the boyz took over, whispering their little manifesto into his ears. This is a documented fact. Reporters were able to take a paper that was supposed to have been written by Bush and place it over a document written by Rumsfield. They matched almost exactly word for word in some sections. Deposing Saddam is something that has to be done, however, it should have been the UN that did it, not the Americans. Why, because now there is so much more disdain for the West because of it. We are better as one then we are alone. - Sat, 29 Mar 2003 5:15pm | ||
| Happy Cat | Wow Ref, your point of view is very well organized. - Sat, 29 Mar 2003 8:59pm | ||
| SweetGrass | Well said Ref, What are your thoughts on the American's ideas of a "New World Order"( their words not mine) that would replace the U.N. I think we should be focussing our dissention on this horrific idea as only those who are "with the U.S." would be part of it. They hope to nullify the U.N's power to veto and take like minded war mongers into any country that doesn't meet with their western ideas. VERY SCARY!!! Does anyone remember the press with Rumsfeld and Saddam in the 80's when they were oil chums??? - Thu, 3 Apr 2003 1:39am | ||
| dannyhavok | what a nauseating fucking start to a thread. lets keep the propaganda war south of the border, okay? - Thu, 3 Apr 2003 2:56am | ||
| Ref | Check this out! This was posted on another thread. Very, very bright person! Actually inlightened me a little more to the reasons that the US government wanted this war so much! Something that has been planned for many years. Please people, don't get me wrong, again, I think that most of us agree that Saddam needs to be removed. I myself am apposed to the way that it is being done. Should have been UN sanctioned. Check it out! Eye opener following. what it's really about - As Mark Twain once noted, prophecy is always difficult, particularly with regards to the future. However, it is a safe bet that as soon as Saddam is toppled one of the first tasks of the America-backed regime will be to restore the US dollar as the nation's oil currency. In November 2000, Iraq began selling its oil for euros, moving away from the post-World War II standard of the US dollar as the currency of international trade. Whilst seen by many at the time as a bizarre act of political defiance, it has proved beneficial for Iraq, with the euro gaining almost 25% against the dollar during 2001. It now costs around USD$1.05 to buy one Euro. Iraq's move towards the euro is indicative of a growing trend. Iran has already converted the majority of its central bank reserve funds to the euro, and has hinted at adopting the euro for all oil sales. On December 7th, 2002, the third member of the axis of evil, North Korea, officially dropped the dollar and began using euros for trade. Venezuela, not a member of the axis of evil yet, but a large oil producer nonetheless, is also considering a switch to the euro. More importantly, at its April 14th, 2002 meeting in Spain, OPEC expressed an interest in leaving the dollar in favour of the euro. If OPEC were to switch to the euro as the standard for oil transactions, it would have serious ramifications for the US economy. Oil-consuming economies would have to flush the dollars out of their central bank holdings and convert them to euros. Some economists estimate that with the market flooded, the US dollar could drop up to 40% in value. As the currency falls, there would be a monetary evacuation by foreign investors abandoning the US stock markets and dollar-denominated assets. Imported products would cost Americans a lot more, and the trade deficit would be magnified. It is foreign demand for the US dollar that funds the US federal budget deficits. Foreign investors flush with dollars typically look to US treasury securities as a means of secure investment. With a large reduction in such investment, the country could potentially go into default. Things could turn very bad, very quickly. In May 2004 an additional 10 member nations will join the European Union. At that point, the EU will represent an oil consumer 33% larger than the United States. In order to mitigate currency risks, the Europeans will increasingly pressure OPEC to trade in euros, and with the EU at that stage buying over half of OPEC oil production, such a change seems likely. This is a scenario that America cannot afford to see eventuate. The US will go to any length to fend off an attempt by OPEC to dump greenbacks as its reserve currency. Attacking Iraq and installing a client regime in Baghdad may have a preventative effect. It will certainly ensure that Iraq returns to using dollars and provide a violent example to any other nation in the region contemplating a migration to the euro. An American-backed junta in Iraq would also enable the US to smash OPEC's hold over oil prices. The US or its client regime could increase Iraqi oil production to levels well beyond OPEC quotas, driving prices down worldwide and weakening the economies of the oil producing nations, thus lessening their likelihood of abandoning the dollar. It would have the short term effect of reducing the profits of domestic oil companies, but the long term effect of securing America's economic hegemony. The frequently offered canard of the Left that this war is being fought to secure oil revenues for American oil companies may have some truth to it. However, a more plausible explanation may be that the Bush administration is waging war to protect the dollar and smash the OPEC hold over international oil prices. It's a war whose purpose is bigger than Halliburton or Exxon: it's a war being fought to maintain America's position in the world. Attending the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio, George Bush Senior told the world that, "the American way of life is not negotiable". As cruise missiles rain on Iraq, we are learning just how 'non-negotiable' that way of life really is. - Sat, 29 Mar 6:34pm - Thu, 3 Apr 2003 7:59am | ||
| Ref | Oh yea! Just waiting for them to come and save us! (from our resources that is)! If anyone thinks that this is going to end with Iraq, their fools. Jordan, Iran (even though it is closer to democracy than most other countries in the region), will soon follow. They all need to be saved so that the US can save it's all mighty dollar from the Euro. The US is one big scarey, mass consuming monster that devours everything in it's path! (SEE NAFTA) Thanks Brian M!!!! - Thu, 3 Apr 2003 8:05am | ||
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