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Sprizzle Ma NIzzle
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I know, I know ..... every one is sick of hearing about it, and I don't really actually care about them myself........yeah it costs me a couple of extra bux a month to drive, but I have the freedom and comfort of a car none the less!.....Anyway I heard something on the radio this morning that gas may go up or close to $2.00/Litre this summer.....well I got this stupid chain email last year and the more I think about it the more it sounds like it may work...I know there will be mixed responces but hey.....ok say everyone on Vancouver Island boycots most of the bigger gas stations....say we all use esso or petro can.....and never shell,or chevron? shell and chevron would go out of business right? or they would be forced to lower thier prices???? and then when they do , we use them and we boycott the other ones? and back and forth...so on........and I don't know which gas companies are affiliated with one another, but....just an Idea! ok...mock me now!!!....lol.... - Thu, 3 May 2007 3:15pm
trevor corey
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I like it!
Theoretically it should work.
When I was a teenager I worked at a gas station during the "gas wars". I remember prices going down to 16.9ltr - Thu, 3 May 2007 3:20pm
jackass
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/nogas.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp - Thu, 3 May 2007 3:39pm Edited: Thu, 3 May 2007 3:41pm
Mr. Hell
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Go to Co-op and get a membership, save 4.2 cents a litre and put more money into the local economy than you would by going to Asshole and Smell gas stations.
Or get a unicycle and ride around like a fucking clown. - Thu, 3 May 2007 3:53pm
Sprizzle Ma NIzzle
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fine then, everyone just use co-op gas and boycott everywhere else, then you will get rebate cheques every year too.....double whammy!!!!! , i'm starting today!.....who's with me?.....and as for the unicycle.....i would but....I live to far from everything, and my 9 year old son wouldn't fit on the handle bars...lol... - Thu, 3 May 2007 4:24pm
Tim-Bitchfork
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yeah i'll use co op, they are everywhere out where i am. but like hell everyone else will. someone needs to get the press to blow it outta proportion and make a news-sappy story outta it for people to do something, call up that annoying CH chick. and even then only some people watch the news. - Thu, 3 May 2007 4:36pm
Sprizzle Ma NIzzle
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true enough!......but I think it would work! we should organize a protest .... put flyers up ect. pick one gas station and stick with ,yeah the line ups will be long but it would be worth it in the end!....yeah stick it to the man!!!!!....lol... - Thu, 3 May 2007 5:10pm
James
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I really don't think it matters much because there are only a few companies that supply oil to the stations. Many stations use the same providers. On top of that I doubt that having less competition would help matters at all. It would be nice to at least screw them over though I guess. - Fri, 4 May 2007 3:15pm
mactac
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exactly. it's not the gaas stations that set gas prices. they have little to do with it. it's the oil companies.... it just so happens that a lot of the gas stations are run by oil companies (shell, etc)... problem is, all the coops have to buy their gas from them anyways.....

the gas prices are set fairly arbitrarily by the gas companies, but indirectly set by the gas futures market. it's the uncertainty for the future that is driving gas prices up & causing people with gas futurres to demand higher prices. the gas itself isn't costing more (in fact it's costing less).. it's greed.

btw, most of the oil/gas used in the us & Canada comes from.... ready for this?.... the US and Canada. go figure.

so sadly, no, it will not work. The only thing that will drive gas prices back down is the futures market - Fri, 4 May 2007 3:30pm
evilkleg
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Yup, it won't work. There are only three suppliers on the Island- Esso, Shell, and Chevron. Every gas station gets their gas from these suppliers. If one can't handle the demand, they use the others and so on. Sadly, I know this because I work for Imperial Oil (indirectly). Service staions receive a fax from the oil company every couple of days that tells them what to charge. Strangely enough, most service staions make very little off the sale of gas. Profit margins are razor thin. I had one owner tell me he made more selling milk one year than gas. That is why every service staion has been converted to a convenience store. - Fri, 4 May 2007 7:58pm
lonemonk
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Mactac brought up a good idea. How about we all subvert the futures market! Instead of single day 'boycotts' lets encourage a few hundred million people to invest heavily in Put bids on oil and gas going DOWN in the future. And here is the catch, even when it starts going down a little bit, we continue to sink bets into it continuing to go down until there is nothing left. We either go broke, or gas prices bottom out.

Seriously though, mactac brought up something that is even scarier than the current price at the pumps. Buying and selling futures in any commodity is insane business and hurts the global financial markets in ways nobody can easily predict. The entire stock-market is the fakest system to begin with, let alone very rich companies manipulating things based on predictions of the future situation.

I need to say something I always do when people bitch about gas/oil prices. Gas is CHEAP for fuck sake! Only fairly recently did gasoline become the same price as MILK! Having said that, milk is another commodity which is wasted on purpose to keep the price high but done in different ways. You can use the same equation with the price of Coca-Cola compared to gas. (Not too long ago exceeded)

In the very early 60's R. Buckminster-Fuller estimated that a gallon of gasoline, if one was accounting for all other forms of energy that must go into finding, extracting, refining, transporting, advertising and some value to represent how long it took for the earth to make dead plant material into crude oil, would cost close to $1Million per gallon. His number might be out, but it represents a ratio of cost differential. Everyone in the world, us normal users included are subsidising oil in the most intense way.

If you own a car at all, you WILL by gasoline no matter when or how. Short-term boycotts sound great, but unless we can all leave the cars at home there is no point. I remember the mid-70's oil crisis, and certain days when people were banned from driving. If you could get half of north america to stop driving one day per WEEK it would have a noticeable effect. Anything less is un-noticeable.

The reason Mactac's assessment is so scary? In a market like this there is literally no end to the price of gas. It could (and will over time) rise indefinitely. 10 years from now, it might be 20 dollars per litre, who knows? People will be forced to not drive, or drive hyper-efficient cars. Both are beneficial.
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. - Sat, 5 May 2007 12:33am Edited: Sat, 5 May 2007 1:01am
evilkleg
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Check this out if you haven't

http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/863054/Who_Killed_The_Electric_Car_FS_DVD_SCREENER_LIMITED_XViD_PUKKA

Basically shows how the oil companies and the republicans deliberately screwed a viable "greener" technology for their own financial gain. - Sat, 5 May 2007 4:23pm
trevor corey
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For the remainder of the year,
WE DO NOT BUY ANY GAS FROM
The two largest companies
(who are now only ONE)
PETRO-CANADA and SHELL - Sat, 5 May 2007 7:43pm
dumpstermesh
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Seriously, at this point in world history if you don't like the way gas prices are going then it's time to invest in a different mode of transportation or just suck it up. Driving is a luxury and if it's going to cost me an extra 10 bucks a month for the convenience of driving around town then so be it. - Sat, 5 May 2007 8:07pm
trevor corey
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Seriously. Boycott Petro Canada and Shell!
Everyone's doing it. Haven't you got the e-mail yet? - Sat, 5 May 2007 11:05pm
dumpstermesh
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You're not serious right Trev? The days of gas wars are over. Petro-Can is a franchise company and the only people that idea would hurt are the local business owners. - Sat, 5 May 2007 11:32pm
Andrew
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gas is going up because it is litterally drying up.

give it however many years left till it runs out and the shit really hits the fan. - Sat, 5 May 2007 11:54pm
mactac
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boycotting petro canada & shell will do absolutely nothing.
it's missing the bid picture. gas stations do not set the price of gas. in reality, either do petro canada or shell.

your dependence on gas sets the price. - Sat, 5 May 2007 11:55pm
Sprizzle Ma NIzzle
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well it was just a thought!.....the only thing that started me going on this was what I heard on the radio last week about the prices going up to $2.00/litre
and that the "gas suppliers" or corperations (i'm not sure which one) were bragging about thier record profit margins!I know its not the gas stations fault, just thaught it may open some eyes.....I just picture some prick in a suit and tie reading his profits for the month and laughing ...with his buddies over sushi and champaigne while i'm putting my last five bucks in my tank.....lol.... and I would take the bus and all but i have a child who goes to school on the other side of town and I go to school to far away ,and I don't live near any bus stops! and wierdo's always sit next to me and start talking when I take the bus.....lol....maybe next time I should take my last $5 and put it in the stock market for gas? - Sun, 6 May 2007 8:03am
Mr. Hell
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I am looking forward to the compressed air engines that were invented recently. - Sun, 6 May 2007 3:41pm
Lucius
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Good thing I'm rich! Cheers, Lucius - Sun, 6 May 2007 4:11pm
Mean Mike
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http://www.gasgouge.ca/ - Sun, 13 May 2007 1:37pm
STBP
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Gas should cost double or triple what it does, considering all the blood mixed in there. - Mon, 14 May 2007 9:47pm
_Griphin_
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Isn't that diamonds your thinking of? - Mon, 14 May 2007 10:11pm
Tambo
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Fuck I hate buying gas. That's all the arguments summed up. - Mon, 14 May 2007 11:59pm
Bounce
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here we go again! - Sat, 19 May 2007 10:31am
Metalneck
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Gas is a necessity in most of our lifestyles, and to just stop buying gasoline isnt an option. On the news there was a guy who said the only real way to protest the high prices of gas is that when you go to a gas station, buy only gas. Get your junkfood and your smokes and lottery tickets, etc, at the grocery store or any place other then the gas station. Since most gas stations rely on these sales to survive removing their main source of profit sends a big message to their pocket books without disrupting the way we live too much. So dont boycott gas, boycott gas conviniences. And they will have to lower gas prices or they risk losing all their outlets. - Sat, 19 May 2007 11:24am
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