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| Anonymous | Missed it.How'd it go?Who won what and how were the performances by the bands? - Mon, 19 May 2003 2:18am | ||
| Curious George | I thought, all in all, it was a good time. Of course it was a bit contrived, but the bands were all getting along well and being very supportive. The awards were given to deserving people (forgive me for not remembering, they also had free beer in the back!!!). My problem: What the fuck was up with the sound? Kasper, if you want to run a show, get a guy who knows how to run a fucking board. Rant Music was the only band to get a sound check, fair enough, they were the first band. But the singer couldn't even sing into his mic without the whole room feedbacking. And it continued for THE ENTIRE SHOW!!! Every band's vocalist was feedbacking. I know Legend's is death for a band's sound, but that was pathetic. I've heard better at high school battle of the bands! And the cue card bit was funny the first time it was done, but the fact that she had to hold them two inches from the presenter's faces for the whole show demonstrated a lack of preparedness. It was a real treat to hear 9 or 10 acts that were very different, style wise. Everyone did a fantastic job. - Mon, 19 May 2003 12:31pm | ||
| Anonymous | So in other words.... Shitty no name bands won awards they didn't deserve so they could play an unorganized retarded attempt at a cash grab in the name of musical achievment? - Mon, 19 May 2003 12:45pm | ||
| Curious George | Right, Moneyshot and Armchair Cynics are shitty no name bands. Fuck you asshole. - Mon, 19 May 2003 12:50pm | ||
| Anon386 | An outstanding evening of entertainment. Well done James Kasper for putting on a very difficult event on a shoestring budget. I find it difficult to believe anyone would have anything but positive things to say about him at the moment. There were twenty performances featuring music from many genres but no metal although there could have been. I think a solid long time act like ML7 would have been great. It was surprising that there was feedback and vocal mic troubles for many of the performers. The sound system and workers are the same as always at Legends but certainly had their hands full with all the different acts and super fast transitions. Every performer played through any troubles with professionalism. I didn't envy the sound crew on this one. In general they did a great job. David Gogo and Dave Lenamm were awesome hosts. Gogo is full on with edgy jokes. Not at all afraid to let them fly. He also called it like it is with respect to performances.. a few were a little dodgy at moments. Lenamm being his usual jovial self kept the spirits up. Another funny situation was watching one of the Grace Nocturnal boys take the stage with ass showing or chest or pants right down! This event could easily have exploded into a killer rock show at the end... but luckily it didn't since it was more about music community than anything else. - Mon, 19 May 2003 1:27pm | ||
| Anonymous | Armchair cynics are a shitty no name band and so is moneyshot except for their 5 seconds of fame when they were played during a canucks game once. - Mon, 19 May 2003 3:10pm | ||
| Anon386 | Who isn't a shitty no name band? - Mon, 19 May 2003 3:22pm | ||
| Hick | MS also played the Warped Tour.. and having a tune played at not one but I think 3 NHL games is not exactly a bad achievment for a young band. - Mon, 19 May 2003 4:00pm | ||
| Anonymous | Nickelback isn't a shitty no name band! It is an even shittier big name band. - Mon, 19 May 2003 5:29pm | ||
| Anonymous | Keep in mind they played Warped Tour because they won a contest...saying that's an achievment is like saying that someone who just won the lottery earned every penny. - Mon, 19 May 2003 5:33pm | ||
| Elliot | The Ernie Ball B.O.T.B. isn't a lottery, it's a contest. Bands are selected based on their submitted mp3's. Not randomly. Also; the internet voting portion doesn't factor in (I believe) unless the band has been approved by the judges already. - Mon, 19 May 2003 6:14pm | ||
| Elliot | Ok, I just checked. Bands are selected by the judges to play warped tour. The internet voting part is for the prizes that they give away. So basically, you can't win anything just randomly. Moneyshot are a good band, and earned their spot there. You didn't. End of story. http://battle.ernieball.com - Mon, 19 May 2003 6:21pm | ||
| Oy Oy Oy | Who was the chick that thought she was cool with the Chip 'n' dale dancers playing with her... and why did she think that she had a right to play 2 songs? That's not fair to the bands that everyone actually knows... - Mon, 19 May 2003 10:53pm | ||
| Donnie Black | I had a blast. - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:11am | ||
| mb | me too - Tue, 20 May 2003 11:47am | ||
| ML7Mike | Anon386, we wouldnt have played even if asked as we are getting ready to release a new CD and plan on not gigging locally until that point ( so expect to never see us again.. ) Although All-Ages shows dont fall into that category, its not good to over play the clubs in Vic, and since we intend to spam the city with a double dose of Meat once we get things rollin here (no, not the doobies!) we felt that partaking wasnt in our best interests. - Tue, 20 May 2003 4:33pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Plus I won't apply for an award. - Tue, 20 May 2003 6:39pm | ||
| Anon386 | Thats cool ML7Mike. A good thing about the MPower appearances is that they were like an ad for the artist. That's why I think it would have made sense to have you guys appear or some other metal act. There are some very hardworking metal ( and punk ) people on the island that should get broader mainstream recognition for what they are accomplishing/have accomplished. Maybe the Rocktoria CD ( affilated this time I think ) should transform into a 4 disc compilation "Vancouver Island Independents" with rock/hip hop, metal/punk, roots/folk/celtic/experimental, jazz/blues. The compilation would show the true diversity and record demand would reveal volumes about each genre. It would also stand to generate more money for charity. - Tue, 20 May 2003 6:40pm | ||
| Allen | Rocktoria doesn't like to have diversity. They like things bland. Look at any compilation that they've released. If someone wants to support the scene; leave the commercial DJs and 'Music Executives' under the manhole covers where they belong. http://brandxmedia.org/Show_posters/death_to_rocktoria.jpg - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:06pm | ||
| Anon386 | You mean the misguided hate show. Rocktoria proceeds go to local charity. I wouldn't want to be a performer at this one cosidering. Stupidly/ironically some of the performers are seeking corporate help. Immaculate Machine will be at New Music West. A show devoted to anger and hatred against other independents? Ouch. - Tue, 20 May 2003 8:55pm | ||
| Anonymous | It never fails to astound me how righteous people can be when it comes to OTHER PEOPLES music. The bands playing that show and Newmusicwest are hypocrites. Nothing more to it. I hope it eats away at them and their half baked moral highground. How can the enlightened few be made up of SO MANY? Y'know all it is? A stupid little conjured up alternative/punk/whatever identity, to hide the scared little shits these people are from the people around them. Every backhanded comment bellittling someone else is like a temporary fix, but the high goes away quickly and they need to find another one. Music is the only form of creative art where it has become so widely acceptable for people to project their insecurities about themselves onto the creations of others, and where it has been deemed acceptable to be hateful and hurtful. And it's pretty sad. Whatever a bands motivation is for making music, or having the music appear on a given CD, who the fuck are they to judge it? The sheer arrogance that accompanies an event such as "DEATH TO ROCKTORIA" is sickening. Exclusionism. That's my word. Kinda like Germany and Jews. Exact same attitude, drastically different scales. - Wed, 21 May 2003 1:47am | ||
| Anonymous | That last statement was the stupidest thing I have ever read on this site. Think about that: the stupidest thing ever written on Live Victoria. Spurious reasoning is the vogue these days, but your idiocy is truly overwhelming. - Wed, 21 May 2003 11:57am | ||
| Anonymous | I think 'Death To Rocktoria' is looking at having a packed house on June 6. I don't think it's a hateful name, I think the 'death to rocktoria' thing is more of a mercy killing, rather than a hateful mean-spirited thing. Yep, it'll be a packed house. - Wed, 21 May 2003 12:37pm | ||
| Anonymous | I seem to remember those fags in Anthem had their coke dusted noses stuck so far up their own asses that they didnt realize that they looked like a bunch of chicks with dicks, so dont say the word Rocktoria and Arrogance in the same sentence, since thye pretty much mean the same thing. Nice hair homo, does it need a light? POOOOF! - Wed, 21 May 2003 1:13pm | ||
| Anon386 | So you think killing a drive to raise money for local charity is a good idea? You think stereotyping local independent rock musicians is somehow fun and not angry and hateful? I'm sure Logan's will be busy with so many bands performing with some of them being very good. It's too bad they will be associating with this event. Brand X should stick to reporting on events and the scene rather than fabricate some "it's cool to put down rock" event. How corny. I can sort of see humour in the title but certainly not enough to make an event of it. How about the organizers take any and all profits from this show and donate them to the same charities as Rocktoria. Or are they too greedy and only looking out for themselves? - Wed, 21 May 2003 1:36pm | ||
| Anonymous | "Or are they too greedy and only looking out for themselves?" There are six bands at this show--I don't think anyone's being greedy, you self-righteous twat. - Wed, 21 May 2003 2:46pm | ||
| Anon386 | I like some of the bands to be performing at this show. I too like to rant from time to time about the state of maintsream commercial radio and the music that is pumped out. I on the other hand very much dislike hateful music or events that belittle others. Sorry to everyone involved in this but I won't be attending and certainly think this is lacking good judgement and taste. - Wed, 21 May 2003 2:51pm | ||
| anonymr. | i agree completely - Wed, 21 May 2003 3:31pm | ||
| Taz User Info... | I just read the word twat, what does that mean? Together We Are Tools? or Totally Wicked Ass Ticklers? - Wed, 21 May 2003 3:56pm | ||
| Anonymous | Hey Anon386, I helped organize death to rocktoria, so maybe I can clear up a few things. First off, we're not putting down rock. Rock is good. We wanted to showcase some local bands, and tried to put together a bill that is pretty inclusive of styles. We thought we'd give the show a name. That's it. There's no hate (I mean, it's not like we're saying "death to false metal" or anything). We're not putting down rocktoria bands, the people who listen to them, or listen to the Q. That would be lame. As far as profits go, Logan's takes some $ off the door to pay the soundguy, then the rest gets split evenly among the bands. If we get a good turn out, we can all recoup our beer costs! Brand X Media makes no money off this. Come check it out. Cheers. - Wed, 21 May 2003 4:35pm | ||
| Kyle User Info... | The above post was mine. Forgot to log in. - Wed, 21 May 2003 4:40pm | ||
| Anon386 | Thanks for putting in your bit Kyle. Obviously Logans is not about putting down rock or any other style since just about anything might turn up there. Neither is Brand X since they will include all local independents I am sure. The troubling thing here is that the name, although somewhat funny, is in poor judgement for a few reasons: 1 - It is evident that some people really do want to express anger and hatred towards rock music and radio at the expense of regular people. Some posts reflect this. 2 - The name benefits one group of people at anothers expense. If you made a cola drink called Joca Cola Coke would likely sue you. ( ok a stupid example but I'm sure you get the point) 3 - Rocktoria is a charitable cause and is not deserving of a slogan like 'death to' 4 - Some people won't get it and will be very disappointed and put off by this. Evident by me. The timing is too obvious. Here are my suggestions: Lose rocktoria from the name. Something like death to mainstream radio. It's probably too late now though. I might work if all the bands were metal since it would be more obvious it was just an attention grabber and fits the metal persona better. ( no I don't think metal is all about anger and hatred, I know it ) Kidding of course. Follow suit and donate profits to charity. Preferably the same ones as Rocktoria. This could be added to the show info or posters. Somehow make it clear that although you have a provocative name for the show that you are not trying to foster hatred or anger towards others. Maybe "Death to Rocktoria .. because mainstream rock is not the only good thing musical in Victoria" I won't come with the name the way it is but I won't think less of those involved. Just a little disappointed is all. - Wed, 21 May 2003 5:45pm | ||
| spurious guy | Act in such a way that you always treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of any other, never simply as a means, but always at the same time as an end. Heteronomy of the will leads to spurious principles of morality. Kant argue with that, can you? Being hateful to others to validate your own moral principles....hmmm, where does that fit in? Anyway, as your best response is more hateful name calling, I'll stand my moral highground for now, thanks. - Wed, 21 May 2003 9:01pm | ||
| Pardon? | Who are you referring to? - Wed, 21 May 2003 9:27pm | ||
| Anon386 | I thought that was a little too biblical coming from a live vic contributor. Please excuse my ignorance, but who was/is Kant? - Wed, 21 May 2003 9:33pm | ||
| Anonymous | As in Emmanuel Kant? Or what? Confusion... - Wed, 21 May 2003 9:38pm | ||
| Kyle User Info... | Not sure how it fits here, but Immanuel Kant was an 18th Century Philosopher. At least part of that post was from his Principle of Humanity. Cheers. - Wed, 21 May 2003 10:01pm | ||
| Anonymous | Anon386 is the biggest fucking idiot loser I have EVER read on Livevictoria.com YOU ARE JAMES KASPER!!!!!! - Wed, 21 May 2003 10:12pm | ||
| Anon386 | Kant.. somewhat interesting. Worth reading? - Thu, 22 May 2003 5:01am | ||
| der | Immanuel Kant was a real pissant Who was very rarely stable. Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar Who could think you under the table. David Hume could out-consume Wilhelm Freidrich Hegel, And Wittgenstein was a beery swine Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel. There's nothing Nietzche couldn't teach ya 'Bout the raising of the wrist. Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed. John Stuart Mill, of his own free will, On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill. Plato, they say, could stick it away-- Half a crate of whiskey every day. Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle. Hobbes was fond of his dram, And Ren� Descartes was a drunken fart. 'I drink, therefore I am.' Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed, A lovely little thinker, But a bugger when he's pissed. - Thu, 22 May 2003 8:45am | ||
| Anonymous | i met ken from the armchair cynics and a couple of the other band members.......really nice people....i see that band working very hard to get out there.i love the writing and their sound...i think the awards are a good idea and it is all a part of the music business thing.its good to get a little recognition for hard work....hats off to the armchair cynics and their 3 recent awards of recognition and a new well thought cd! - Fri, 23 May 2003 12:23am | ||
| Q bitch | Fuck you you Q bitch,(Anon), you work for the Q or something?...Oh hate and anger!! piss off asshole what do you think fuels half of the music you hear..hate and anger..you're a hippy pussy ...the Q SUCKS, ROCKTORIA SUCKS period! A charity event ..please! how much money do you think they raise? Fuck off, the only reason the Q even do Cocktoria is to fulfill their CRTC requirments to "contribute" to the community. They are snobby , stuck up assholes trapped in the 80's asshole trying to protect their radio jobs until retirement ..they deserved to be ripped, torn, shredded, and puked up...What, if we can't praise it we should shut up..you're attitude has led to the fucked up society we live in! Sheep and wolves buddy and it is plain to me you are a sheep. I eat sheep. Anon, you're a week pussy hippie, go hug a fucking tree. DEATH TO ROCKTORIA is a great Idea..I will be there in full support!! - Fri, 23 May 2003 1:17pm | ||
| Anonymous | Oh and you don't know Kant..how old are you...15 go back to school fool - Fri, 23 May 2003 1:28pm | ||
| Donnie Black | Ouch! So much hate. I remember the days when I used to write about the shit that pissed me off, and the shit that I hate. Made for a very angry Don. Lotsa double bass mon. Then one day I got tired of being pissed off. If everybody liked the same thing, it'd make for a boring world... unless of course we all liked Milli Vanilli. - Fri, 23 May 2003 2:53pm | ||
| King Bong User Info... | Right on Don..you kiddies listen to Uncle Donny he knows what he speaks about...there is enough for all..like what you like, and forget the rest....life is way to short..although I still wish Bong was on that bill! But no need to get all mad about it, even if the Anon dude is any anoing induvidual! Smoke some weed and chill anger dude! Oh, and Milli Vanilli...ya baby! Kola - Fri, 23 May 2003 4:55pm | ||
| Mangler | Damn, Donny, ya dont have to be angry to play good metal drums! You should explore your roots now that your mindset is adult. - Fri, 23 May 2003 4:56pm | ||
| Anon386 | Getting a little excited heh Q Bitch? Your words support the notion that an angry lot will associate with this event. I'm not setting out to change that.. just trying to point out some glaring problems. Have fun. - Sat, 24 May 2003 2:43am | ||
| Anonymous | Yeah, it's as though we'll all be down at the bar having a 2 minute hate dedicated to the Q! But no - it'll be a mixed bag. True haters won't be able to put up with having to hear bands they don't already know, or who stray outside of their preferred genre (cause you just know they listen only to one kind of music). Much love to the humour-impaired, though. Cheers. - Sat, 24 May 2003 12:32pm | ||
| I want Don's perscription | Sorry but calling Rocktoria an event that is put on for a "charitable cause" is VERY innacurate. In the past it was always a very break-even/tax write off kind of thing and I can't imagine it making any real dough. It exist solely to "prove" that the Q "supports local music" which is required for them to keep their radio license. And it gets chintzier every year. - Sat, 24 May 2003 2:37pm | ||
| BrandXMedia User Info... | Alright, I�ve stood back and resisted posting for some time now but things have gotten somewhat out of hand. First off the �Death to Rocktoria� title wasn�t fueled by dislike, resentment and especially not hatred. When conceptualizing the show, we discussed having a tribute, or �eulogy� of sorts, because we were so disappointed that Rocktoria wasn�t in full form this year as opposed to the previous years. I happen to own the whole collection of Rocktoria CDs since 1992. Each album is innovative, original and blaring with an amazing level of talent and ingenuity. Since my first Rocktoria CD purchase I have not found one song that hasn�t captured my imagination, given me a sense of euphoria, and inspired me to rummage through my closet and dust off my air guitar. It is as if the judges who pick out the bands are given help by some sort of divine intervention that gives them supernatural powers to pick the most talented people on the island and somehow compress then down to a 72 minute CD. It is miraculous to say the least. So, all of you who have become offended by this statement, please refrain from making any more slanderous, hurtful or mean spirited remarks. Perhaps the wording was a little off, and perhaps we should have called it something like �lest we forget � Rocktoria� or �There Is No Sweeter Teat Then Rocktoria�, or �Rocktoria Executives Are Gods Amongst Swine�. I actually tried to lobby city council to rename this beautiful city �Rocktoria�, as opposed to the old boring �Victoria we�ve been living in for so long. Unfortunatly due to the timely process, nothing has happened of it as of yet. Well, I hope this clears a few things up. Thank You. http://www.brandxmedia.org - Sat, 24 May 2003 8:13pm | ||
| Donnie Black | Mangler - Damn, Donny, ya dont have to be angry to play good metal drums! You should explore your roots now that your mindset is adult. I still love my metal. Ben from Lucky Bar passed on the latest In Flames CD for me to listen to, and I love it. I'll always have room in my player for any of the last three Carcass albums, (my personal faves). I just got sick of playin' the stuff. Never really had a chance to enjoy what I was doing while I was doing it. Only got to do that after the shows by watching them on video. Now, instead of running a race while I'm playing the show, it's like I'm driving in a car listening to it now. It's alot more fun and less complicated nowadays. The hardest thing that I've done over the last two years, is learn how to not play, and lay down the foundation. ps. I don't really like Milli Vanilli, some people just need to lighten up. - Sun, 25 May 2003 6:10am | ||
| Mangler | If yer likin new In Flames try new Soilwork, Killswitch Engage, Shadows Fall, new Living Sacrifice, just to name but a smidgen of the new gen deathmetal thats coming out these days. - Sun, 25 May 2003 12:12pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Living Sacrifice are a Christian Life Metal band, pretty talented too. There first album rocks. - Mon, 26 May 2003 4:27am | ||
| Mangler | yes sir they are. I hate genrally dislike christians, or at least the concept and half truths that are christianity, BUT the newest ( and final ) Living Sacrifice album is VERY GOOD. - Mon, 26 May 2003 11:13am | ||
| 75jersey | Hardcore, grindcore, speed, death, you get the point, metal rules. I - Mon, 26 May 2003 5:32pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Now it makes sense, cause P.O.D. scored there drummer. - Mon, 26 May 2003 9:00pm | ||
| Anonymous | Soilworks best albums were a preditors portrait and the chainheart machine. They are not new cause new soilwork is pretty lacking. - Mon, 26 May 2003 9:06pm | ||
| Anonymous | Lacking what? production value? cool riffs? Diverse singing? Solos? - Mon, 26 May 2003 10:21pm | ||
| Anonymous | Their new album and natural born chaos were pretty radio friendly and they lacked that crushing sound they have on chainheart, steelbath and predators. - Mon, 26 May 2003 11:31pm | ||
| Adam | I felt that the new soilwork is better becuase they turned down the 80CF (80s cheeze factor). - Tue, 27 May 2003 1:52am | ||
| 75Jersey User Info... | Soilwork played at the awards? Holy phatty, I must have been more stoned than I knew. Just b.s'n. - Thu, 19 Jun 2003 5:21pm | ||
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