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Descention Demyse Anatolian Wisdom show Nov 12th
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GoTe
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what was the over all opinion of this show?
objective opinions welcome - Sun, 14 Nov 2004 7:15am
Dr.DoomXXX
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The show was fucking awsome. First time I saw a show with a rebar pentagram surounded by goatheads ( I still have goat brains stuck to my boot from turning one of them into pancake.)
The singer from the first band had so much leather, spikes, studs, chains and bullets that he coudn't move.
terror gnome got his dreds cought in the surrounding razor wire like 4 times
and I seen a few people fall off tables.
It's shows like this that 'cause Vancouver road trips in the first place. FUCKING KILLER! - Mon, 15 Nov 2004 8:10pm
Død[]Sanger
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Goat Skulls, crushing metal, shitload of brews and tokes...
I'm not suprised I can hardly remember leaving the show, but one thing is for sure, the entire lineup kicked fucking ass!

None of these bands disappoint, killer fuckin show. - Tue, 16 Nov 2004 1:40am
viking_666
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glad we could please.
Our singer didn't move much because it was his first time on stage, ever. And he should have ditched the mic stand, it would have helped. since it was taking up valuable stage room since my drums and the pentagram were taking up the rest.

hails - Wed, 17 Nov 2004 3:27pm
pserah
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goats heads? hmmm. original.

didn't RITES OF THY DEGRINGOLADE and INQUISITION use goat heads as part of their show in vancouver a few months ago? - Thu, 18 Nov 2004 9:31pm
Masturbating The War God
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I bet they were the first bands ever to use them too... - Fri, 19 Nov 2004 9:12am
viking_666
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it's a ritual, rituals often have similarities.
BM isn't about being original, atleast not when it comes to stage shows. It's often grim, spikes, heads or flesh, etc.
It's not a show we're putting on, but to those that don't know this, that's how they see it. - Fri, 19 Nov 2004 2:03pm
DestroyeR
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The more goat-heads, the better.
What they need is snake fucking nuns.
ssssss_-_-_-__________ _-_-_(o)=~~~(@)
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pserah
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unfortunately, it's the lack of originality in the "BM scene" that has deadened it in the last 10+ years.
i do agree it's easier to recreate other people's music and ideas than it is to be an ORIGINAL. but that's what makes a great band, ORIGINALITY, any asshole can take someone elses vision and make it their own.

however here's a few more suggestions:

-pig heads on stakes (mayhem did it)

-topless vampire goth girl cage dancers (satyricon AND cradle of filth did it)

if you'd like more ideas, feel free to ask.



in addition i realize that RITES and INQUISITION were not the first bands to use goat heads as part of their "ritual", however they were the first to use them in vancouver. i think it's funny(though not surprising)that in so little time that this same idea was reused in the same city by a local band. - Fri, 19 Nov 2004 3:41pm
thedesecraters
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Quote: "BM isn't about being original, atleast not when it comes to stage shows. It's often grim, spikes, heads or flesh, etc."

I guess that BM is just about having fun looking evil and being "grim" these days then??
What no one realizes is that BLACK METAL IS SATAN. If you are not under the command of our Lord, then you are just making a mockery of the Cult. - Fri, 19 Nov 2004 4:01pm
Masturbating The War God
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Well I am proven wrong, they used them first in Van, origial indeed! I'll make up an award, but I'll make it out of used vaginas so it's tr00 and original. - Fri, 19 Nov 2004 4:28pm
GoTe
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Are you fucking stupid or what?
This music is about atmosphere.

pserah:
your constructive critisism seems quite un-educated!

the stage props are not what's making the music .The bands are what the people came to see. - Fri, 19 Nov 2004 6:03pm
Sati
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wtf?

This may be helpful:

Main Entry: 1rit·u·al
Pronunciation: 'ri-ch&-w&l, -ch&l; 'rich-w&l
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin ritualis, from ritus rite
1 : of or relating to rites or a ritual : CEREMONIAL
2 : according to religious law or social custom
- rit·u·al·ly adverb

Main Entry: 2ritual
Function: noun
1 : the established form for a ceremony; specifically : the order of words prescribed for a religious ceremony
2 a : ritual observance; specifically : a system of rites b : a ceremonial act or action c : a customarily repeated often formal act or series of acts


And I'm assuming that you guys weren't at that show, because if you were you wouldn't be talking so much shit. These bands didn't appear to any of us to be kidding around.
Of course, I was actually LISTENING to them. - Fri, 19 Nov 2004 7:27pm
The Other Nick
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goatheads on stakes are awesome. every metal shows should have impaled barnyard animals on stakes.

by the way, INQUISITION are the saviors of black metal - Sat, 20 Nov 2004 12:38am
Mutilashawn
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"touch me with your magic hoof" - Sat, 20 Nov 2004 1:49pm
Desecrater
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"This music is about atmosphere."

This is why Black Metal is such a joke. This "atmosphere" that you speak of was STOLEN from the SATANIC bands that created this style of music 20 years ago.
Now it's been over-run by faggots in fishnet shirts and perfect looking make-up that try to emulate a Satanic creation; but they are doing nothing but mocking the cult......

Enjoy your Century Media version of Black Metal. - Sat, 20 Nov 2004 3:50pm
GoTe
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Yeah obviously not at the show...... - Sat, 20 Nov 2004 5:43pm
SOS Jesse
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Wow, you guys who are talking about 'True back metal' and how the scene has been tarnished and is no longer truly 'Satanic' are totally off-base. It's got nothing to do with Satan. Just because a bunch of early black metal acts were so-called 'Satanic' doesn't mean that every black metal act must record their albums in the woods and pay homage to the dark lord. It's about the music, period. If you like a certain band's music, listen to them and buy their albums and support them. If you don't like them, don't listen to them. It's that simple. - Sat, 20 Nov 2004 9:53pm
Død[]Sanger
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Wow, talk about some Kvlter than thou-ness?

Shit, you know whats un-origional now that were at it???

Stage lights - Every band uses them, HOW UN KVLT!
Smoke machines - Shit... Smoke? how meny shows have had smoke??? Shit... better knock that off too...

Fuck the stage being ultra origional, the show is about the bands.
Stage props are just that, props, they make the stage look better, it's not a decour contest.

The fact that these guys actually brought out a rebar pentagram,smoke machine and fucking goat skulls on pikes says enough right there...

Who cares if "insert low quality, ancient, super troo bm band name here" did it first, regardless it KICKS ASS and just the comments from the crowd alone were enough confirmation of that...

This show had fucking brains on the pit floor for fuck sake...

I don't know what more you could ask for, but for 3 local bands, that stage setup was killer, better than most would have done...

Though, I think Pserah was onto something with the metalbabe dancers, eh guys?
;)\m/ - Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:23am
Nik Olaz
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guys...it's music...i dunno whether anyone told you but...it's only there for entertainment. - Sun, 21 Nov 2004 1:57am
Desecrater
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"It's got nothing to do with Satan"
Black Metal has nothing to do with Satan?? That is the single most absurd thing I've read in a long time. You are telling me that I am "off-base"?? The BLACK in BLACK Metal is as in Black Arts. ie: Satanism, Occultism, Black Magic.
This is why Christian Metal is called White Metal. Gore Metal is about gore so hence the name, Death Metal is about death, War Metal is about war,etc. Simple enough for you?? If it's not about Satan/Occult, it's NOT Black Metal.
My point is, this weakened version of "Black" Metal going around these days is a mockery. You are actually not listening to Black Metal, you are listening to an imitation. If you have a different view than me, I want to know YOUR definition of Black Metal is. I could use a good laugh.


"If you don't like them, don't listen to them. It's that simple"
I completely agree. I've been doing this for years.


Obviously not at the show? I've seen and even played Black Metal shows here and in Europe so you don't have to show me what a fucking Black Metal show is supposed to look like! This wasn't the first Black Metal show in Vancouver. Perhaps it was the first one for you? Besides, I know Sanguis Morbis personally, why do I need to see a picture of him? - Sun, 21 Nov 2004 2:22am
Mutilashawn
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I would be hesitant to argue with anybody IN Blasphemy . . . - Sun, 21 Nov 2004 1:54pm
The Other Nick
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speaking of which, blasphemy should play here. with revenge. fuck. - Sun, 21 Nov 2004 2:45pm
canondocre
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Blackmetal is about/for Satan, and anyone who wants to weaken that because they want to imitate satanic art but seperate it from its initial inspiration are not only misguided, but pathetic.

I will also add that kitty petting, flower sniffing laveyan neo-satanist blackmetal sucks fucking ass. - Sun, 21 Nov 2004 3:11pm
GoTe
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man
black metal is also full of prissy people.
that is what ruins black metal in my eyes.

You can sit here and say what black metal is or isn't
but in fact
Black metal is purely insperation . for me at least
we are not a black metal band. there are no black metal bands in vancouver anymore. other than Anatolian Wisdom

there is nobody trying to be what they are not.
this music was pure hatered towards christianity and in the same vain as what some feel is BLACK METAL

fuck everyone who says otherwise!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Sun, 21 Nov 2004 5:51pm
J. Peatman
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This perpetual discussion is such a waste of time. I thought black metal was at least about going out there and writing awesome songs instead of self-righteously bickering about definitions on too many internet fora. - Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:47am
Jesse
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Shit! So if I play Death Metal but we don't write songs about death... what does that make us? Let's see, we have a song about crackheads, so that would mean we're "Crackhead metal" (but only for one song) then another song is about this guy we know that went mental... so what genre would that song be?

Basically, the "Music" is what defines a genre, not it's lyrical content (except for any kind of christian rock and/or metal, which is automatically shite!) - Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:35pm
canondocre
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Jesse I would describe what you play as "crackhead" metal. Yes.

Blackmetal is different from other musical genres. Not all musical genres are based solely on what it sounds like. If you can't agree to that you are definitely missing part of the point with blackmetal. sXe hardcore! political grindcore!

And Peatman, forums are ALL about self-righteous bickering. Let us have our fun. - Mon, 22 Nov 2004 1:39pm
Masturbating The War God
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Peatman, truly hilarious, I will watch that whenever I am sad.

3 evil bloody goathorn hails to controversy! - Mon, 22 Nov 2004 2:01pm
DOOMHAMMER
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black metal is about knowing bands that no one else has ever heard of

and satan. and maybe unicorns, but I think im the only one for satan and unicorns.

! - Mon, 22 Nov 2004 2:29pm
viking_666
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our originality is in our music, not the stage show. If we were to focus all our time and energy on the stage show then we might aswell be Cradle of Filth or Dimmu Borgir. Which is NOT black metal. - Mon, 22 Nov 2004 3:38pm
The Devil's Wrath
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THIS IS WHAT I THOUGHT OF WHEN I SAW ANATOLIAN WISDOM^
Overall, the vocals were the only redeeming quality of this band. The music is far too sloppy and "happy" sounding. Maybe they should start playing D&D or SCA conventions and everyone can dance a "happy little jig" as they play.

"KILL THE WEAK IN SATAN'S NAME,
RHYMING LYRICS ARE WEAK AND LAME"



"I would be hesitant to argue with anybody IN Blasphemy . . . "

Mutilashawn, I seriously doubt that 'SOS Jesse' or 'GOTE' know who Blasphemy are. Especially 'GOTE' considering he's under the impression that Anatolian Wisdom are the only Black Metal band in Vancouver.
What about Godless North? Or now is this Vancouver BM band simply just a song that Demyse wrote? - Mon, 22 Nov 2004 4:32pm
Legion
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I'm definately missing the point of 'black metal'. - Mon, 22 Nov 2004 6:31pm
GoTe
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Well if you read what I wrote I said that there isn't any black metal bands in vancouver "ANY MORE" aside from Anatolian Wisdom
there isn't anything that comes close . Blasphemy are no longer so that means they dont count
Godless North are no longer as well
THERE IS CURRENTLY NO BLACK METAL BANDS IN VANCOUVER - Tue, 23 Nov 2004 1:14am
viking_666
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wow, aren't you original - Tue, 23 Nov 2004 1:42am
hanephi
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Anatolian Wisdom is the voice of the forgotten ones

This band is based on philosophic doctrines, it’s also concerned with the demonic knowledge of the far past. Lyrical and musical inspirations come from the ancient ones and their unveiled secrets. I don’t expect some of you to understand True ancient knowledge and see it’s burning flames over the firmament of this earth but I’ll say that Anatolian Wisdom is the calling one and it is definitely the unholy one.

When the dreadful darkness brinks the might memories of the ancient times the Anatolian Wisdom horde will be there.

Hail!!! All black hearts who still keep the underground flame burning. - Tue, 23 Nov 2004 5:47am
yog sototh
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Im curious as to why the Descention
Anatolian Wisdom
Demyse show was labelled as BLACK METAL night if only one band on the bill is a Black Metal act.
Seems a litlle odd no?!
Just asking out of curiosity. - Tue, 23 Nov 2004 8:10am
Død[]Sanger
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Blackmetal doesn't have to be satan worshipping ffs...

Meny all over the world believe everything in the bible including hell and the devil, is nothing more than a pile of shit, and to them, their music is about loathing the mental control tool that is christianity.
To them it's certainly not about graveling to the dark side of the same book.

If you want to say BM bands MUST be satanists, then by implication, no BM band is "true" unless they are worshipping satan to a T, meaning all of it, HUMAN and animal sacrifice, church burnings, blood rituals etc.
How meny bands actually do these things whom you all respect as top names in BM????
One band? Two perhaps???
How meny of you in this thread do this yourselves???

To those who don't walk the walk you preach: Quit talking the talk and show some support for the fucking cause.

If you claim to be a true practicing satanist, then please do share the details of your killings for the devil.
If you can't do that, then stop bitching at BM bands for not being actual satanists...
Loathing all that is the bible certainly does still count as blasphemy...
For myself, BM is about sticking it to religion, not following one...
Call that untrue, I will simply say that claiming to be a "true satanist" and not having taken a human life in your lord's name makes you a textbook poser.
So again, can't we all just enjoy a fucking metal show without getting all pissy about it?
This unholier than thou crap is really getting old... - Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:11am
Tragedy
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AMEN!! - Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:32pm
KUNTKILLER666
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Devil's Wrath, you're not a only a fucking idiot, you're a complete ASSHOLE! I happen to be the singer from Anatolian Wisdom and you've got some fuckin' balls posting that shit (or apparently a lack thereof) here instead of saying it right to our faces! I'm getting pretty fucking sick of punkass shit-talkers taking the easy route and making posts like that thinking they can just go hide in their parents' basements and not have to answer for it! FUCK YOU and your precious "Unholier Than Thou" bullshit!! I've been into this music, as have we all in this band, for years! None of us need some anal-retentive troll who thinks he's more "Nekro" or "True" than anybody else telling us that we aren't! That fact that you wasted the time and brain cells writing that shit about us does nothing but prove you to be a bitter, probably jealous, sorry piece of shit! Tell you what,'O saviour of all things true, YOU start your own BM band and show us all how it's done, how about that?! Next show we play, come right up to us and tell us face to face you think we suck instead of taking the fucking PUSSY route like you've done here or just SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! We really don't give a fuck about you or your pathetic definition of what we are!! FUCK OFF!!!!! - Tue, 23 Nov 2004 1:11pm
The Devil's Wrath
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In response to viking666- "wow, aren't you original" ^ - Tue, 23 Nov 2004 5:14pm
DestroyeR
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Fuck ya!
And lyrical rhymes dont suck, especially in Black Metal. They create chants and sing alongs. Which are important for bringing together the followers of an underground scene founded on wrath, rituals, and rebbelion. Now as for BM being all about Satan or atmosphere, Its some of both, and more. The origonals were pegans practicing sacrificial rituals, but they also played Hard Rock/Metal. The Brutalizing thrash BM was created by the punks of the north. Who more then anything just hated christans, and were more into the writtings of Norse religion. Now if there is any bands out there that are into burrning churches, and killing each other, they are the only ones close to being "True" according to Desecrater and some others here. Realistically, BM now is about speed, darkness, and holding your Grimfist high! Regardless of lyrical content.

Besides, even Satan himself must get board of hearing bands ramble on and on about him. How will HE win if everone knows he's coming, or who's been sacrificed for what reason. Tactics of today are different then they were years ago. The war of today is won by two things, taking the enemy by suprize, and lies and deciete. Not by openly preaching your ideal end.

Did I mention snake fucking nuns? - Tue, 23 Nov 2004 5:25pm
khaos
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Black metal, death metal, heavy metal, thrash whatever. It is all about rebellion and aggression. When it comes to Black metal, it is more of a lifestyle, not just a musical style. And it is very serious, sometimes severly so. I'm not saying death metal and grind is less serious, It takes a lot of creativity and strength to make music that is not popular among the masses, and not many can make a living out if it. The main thing that separates black metal from the rest of the other metal styles is not just the music and lyrics, but the ideology and intent by the artists who create black metal. The problem is, and not just within black metal, but all genres, most metal heads tend to be so close minded and overly defensive towards their preferred style, that they limit themselves to being a classification such as a grinder, black metalhead, thrasher, whatever. Then you have to follow bullshit guidlines like, a metal head must have long hair, or be bald, have lots of tattoos, drugs, sex (that should be mandatory anyways) or wear all black, whatever. To me this is all bullshit, I have been listening to metal for many years, more than a quite a few who posted here, and these sub categorizations of metal did not become so prominent until the mid 80's and more so in the early 90's. when I hear stuff about who is more kvlt, true, or more blasting and technical I just laugh, cause to me it is all the same : metal. And I do take these genres very seriously, and respect each individual trait, but still, it is all metal. So when someone says something about a band that is or is not a black metal, It's moot. As long as someone enjoys the music and the artists are serious about their music, and respect the roots and history of metal in general, it is all good, or evil if you prefer.
hails to the metal hordes!! - Wed, 24 Nov 2004 12:42am
KUNTKILLER666
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Wrath-hole, you truly are a fucking idiot, but then that goes without saying. Same with "Pserah" (who suspiciously sounds like our snivelling pooftah worm of an ex-bassist 'Iconoclast'). Allow me to state once and for all: We ARE a Black metal band, regardless of what some 'net geek hiding in the shadows thinks of us. We'll continue to be true to ourselves by doing things exactly the way we see fit. There's nothing "truer" than that. We aren't the least bit concerned with pandering to the whims of any passive-aggressive closet cases who seem to be under the impression we should sound like carbon copies of Dark Throne (a great band, but one's enough). The only "constructive criticism" we value is that of our peers, i.e. OTHER BLACK METAL BANDS. The sorry opinions, let alone the worthless existences, of lack-wits are utterly meaningless to us. The principles behind Black metal aren't that difficult to understand. You either get it or you don't. If you get it, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. If not, you're just another loud-mouthed poser fuckwad who's talking out your ass and should shut his/her fucking trap. PERIOD. - Wed, 24 Nov 2004 3:27am
Desecrater
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What was wrong with what Pserah posted??
It was just pointed out that you guys used the same ideas that were used for the RITES OF THY DEGRINGOLADE/ INQUISITION show that just took place a couple of months ago.
I also couldn't help but to notice that the HELLHAMMER saying: "Only Death is Real" was used on the KULT OV AZAZEL flyers. Of course we didn't invent that saying but it was also just used that same RITES-INQUISITION flyer I made and also on the old BLASPHEMY show flyers that I made. See? No originality. Pserah is right in my opinion. It's not that we're taking credit for inventing the Black Metal stage show, Pserah was just pointing out that our show ideas were noticably recycled.

"I would be hesitant to argue with anybody IN Blasphemy"
Just a quick point: It shouldn't matter if I played in BLASPHEMY or STRYPER: BLACK METAL IS SATANIC/OCCULT ONLY! - Wed, 24 Nov 2004 1:19pm
Desecrater
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From what I read, no one here says that ANATOLIAN WISDOM is not Black Metal. Where did this come from?? - Wed, 24 Nov 2004 3:06pm
Sati
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I'm surprised that no one else attempted to correct "The Devil's Wrath"'s summary of A.W. Guess it was cuz it was laughable.

Vocals were very cool but clearly not the band's ONLY redeeming quality. I wrote elsewhere that the drumming stood out (and I can't remember for sure, but possibly some of the guitaring too), and there were at least 3 parts where the whole band gelled in a way you don't normally see at a band's debut. You could feel the energy in the room change, kinda darken and deepen (really important at BM shows, I suspect).. and I'd assume subsequent shows will only show extensions of this.

As far as the "happy" comment.. musically, the drum style seemed much more lively than most BM drumming I've heard (but I'm no authority). And besides that, these guys seem pretty well liked, so calls like "I wanna go to Norway!" and other encouraging words from the crowd may have betrayed the dark vibe we were after. But they finally got to play their first show after numerous forced cancellations, and the metal crowd were stoked about it.. so this kind of enthusiasm's probably forgivable. Lets not be excited at a BM show ever again! Seriously.. I was probably not the only one a little confused as to what would be considered appropriate at such a "grim" event.

TDW's assessment was clearly bullshit. How embarassing that this kind of pettiness may be what defines Vancouver's black metal scene for people reading here. Maybe its because these guys aren't ALL dark, depressed and negative (i.e. unmotivated) - that their detractors are so bitter towards them. - Wed, 24 Nov 2004 4:21pm
SOS Jesse
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Wow, this post had really created some stimulating conversation... differences of opinion definitely makes things more entertaining. I didn't know Desecrater was from Blasphemy and I definitely respect that band but I still adamantly beleive that black metal does not have to be about satan or the occult... it can also be about the cold forests of Norway and Viking mythology(Enslaved?). Shit it can be about fuckin anything. I think that Emperor's best albums were IX Equilibrium and Prometheus- the Discipline of Fire and Demise which both had nothing to do with the devil. Mind you they weren't as traditional black metal as the older stuff but musically I felt they were superior. In the end however, I'm gonna keep beleiving what I beleive and so is everyone else so it's kind of a moot point to argue about it... but it's pretty fun. - Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:51pm
DemysE
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The bottom line is>
Black metal has subgenres , just like death metal
*Pure black metal - Fri, 26 Nov 2004 2:22am
Masturbating The War God
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*fluffy gay black metal for gothic emo fags.
and so on .




Wuhahahaha! - Fri, 26 Nov 2004 9:28am
canon.docre
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Death metal has it's subgenres
*gore metal
*grindcore


Fuck that! GRINDCORE is NOT deathmetal. Period. Not death metal. Okay? Vancouver deathmetal bands might think they're grindcore, but they're not. - Fri, 26 Nov 2004 9:33am
Mutilashawn
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HERE, HERE!!!!!! - Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:38am
Blair Goatsblood
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a) Like Cannon said, Grindcore IS NOT a subgenre of Deathmetal. I blame it on all the technical drummer worshipping chowderheads that call their brutal tech death metal Grindcore..gues what, it's not.
Grindcore is about a fistfull of dirty, rusty chains in the jaw...not 59 note riffs and souless clinical typewriter drumming. Grindcore is primitive, punkish, caveman metal.
Hell, Blasphemy are more of a grindcore band that most of the vancouver "grind" bands

b) Black Metal must be about evil, death, satan, apocalypse, genocide, hate, war, etc. As much as I appreciate prog rock and bands with hippy ideals, there is no place for that in Black Metal. - Fri, 26 Nov 2004 2:56pm
DemysE
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Sorry Sorry your right about the grindcore thing I was wrong to have said that now that I think about it.
But you get what I mean
the two just seem alike to me cuz I don't listen to grindcore
well I listen to EXCRAMENTORY GRINDFUCKERS but that is brilliant grindcore......fucking brilliant - Fri, 26 Nov 2004 6:36pm
KUNTKILLER666
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What was wrong with Pserah's post? Not much aside from that gripe about originality, but it retrospect, I think I was just defensive and lashing out, so apologies to Pserah. SORRY! As far as I'm concerned, there's only so "original" you can be in Black metal before it starts to become really, really GAY like what Dodheimsgard degenerated into. We tried to put on the kind of show that we ourselves wanted to see. Next time around, we may have more stage-goodies, who knows? Right now we're trying to figure out how, when and where to put on a Black metal festival in this sorry-ass town. Desecrater, I know you've got connections and are in contact with lots of bands. Any help or suggestions you could offer would be greatly appreciated. By the way, I listened to that split CD I bought from you. Krieg was OK, but KOA's vocals fucking lick bag! No discernable lyrics at all, just "YAAAH-YAAAAH-YAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!" for every song. Stupid! Almost as bad as Blood Stained Dusk.Oh well, live and learn. - Sat, 27 Nov 2004 3:07am
Blair Goatsblood
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It's too bad mesa luna is too upscale/expensive, otherwise it would be a great licensed/all ages venue. You can smoke dope on the porch and watch bands from the balcony if you don't like being in a cattlepress.

Fuck, I wish I saw this, but I was out of town. Play again soon! - Sat, 27 Nov 2004 9:10am
Hostile Domination
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''well I listen to EXCRAMENTORY GRINDFUCKERS but that is brilliant grindcore......fucking brilliant''

YES!!!! Excrementory Grindfuckers are AWESOME!!!!!!!! - Mon, 29 Nov 2004 2:45am
BVB666
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For the people saying this show sucks..IE Devils Wrath....why not come up to the members and tell them what you thought face to face??

I watched their set and thought it was pretty decent...especialy considering that it was their FIRST show and that 2 members had never played live beofre.

Some of you need to grow some balls and maybe ju7st maybe pull you fucking little heads outta you asses. - Mon, 29 Nov 2004 6:37pm
BVB666
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Oh yeah and another thing...as far as the posted picture of the singer goes.
Buddy obviously posted that so you could see that there was no fish nets crap going on there.
There is going to be more Black Metal comming out of Vancouver soon.
No fishnet bullshit,hippy wimps or any other fucking garbage. - Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:42pm
Sati
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^ Hey I know you! I believe you got mad and called me a "blood belching vagina" online once.. still cracks me right up - favorite insult ever!

Anyway, there were no "people" saying the show sucked here, it was just TDW. And what other black metal are you talking about? - Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:23am
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Alternative Blues-Punk from Victoria BC
Adrian Chmil "Adream"
Head-turning ringer who loves dramatic music from Victoria BC
Niels Petersen Band
from Victoria BC
Niels Petersen
from Victoria BC
West Coast REACH Association
Utilizing music & the other performing arts for social good
722 Cormorant St. Victoria BC
Open / Operational
Thursday Night Jam at The Loft
Cancelled - no jam. Drummer's head wouldn't fit through the ...
229 Gorge Road East Victoria BC
Closed / Inactive
First Metropolitan United Fellowship Hall
Large hall in the First Metropolitan Church Building.
Open / Operational
Club Alhambra
Photo credit Niels Petersen Located in the Bedford Regency ...
Closed / Inactive

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