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| johnnybrotten User Info... | Hi all. I am a visitor to Victoria...actually first time in British Columbia. I am here visiting my bro. Was in Vancouver for about two weeks and here now until after New Years. My bro and I are musicians from Montreal and based on what I have seen, heard and been told, I have a few observations/questions for those of you that are from BC. 1-Since it is obvious to the entire country that BC is a maniacal eco province, perhaps someone can explain to me the propensity for your populace to litter. Montreal is 10 times the size of Vancouver and 20 times the size of Victoria and we don't seem to have this problem to the degree that you guys do? I have seen drivers toss bags of left over MacDonald's into the street, dumping ash trays at red lights, dog excrement on sidewalks all over the place, trash strewn all over the place when a garbage can is just feet away? Seems to me that there are either less eco maniacs than advertised or this province has more than its fair share of hypocrites. 2-My bro told me before I got here that the talent pool in this city was next to nil. I didn't really take him seriously until getting here. Couldn't be as bad as he said. Since getting here, I have met so many losers that say they are hot when they are not...Seen bands almost every night and at first I thought it was funny, but apparently you guys have a serious lack of trained, good musicians. As he said "allot of peeps with huge ego's and nothing to back them up. Lots of bad attitudes attached to terrible playa's. In Montreal, you get one or the other. A good playa with a bad attitude, one can handle. A bad playa with a good attitude can also be handled, but both! and so many? Been in my bro's rehearsal spot when he has tried out playa's and it's amazing! 3-Of the bands that I have seen; Jeffrey says, terrible. That 70's band, terrible. A few country bands that were laughable. Meat Locker seven, Great! Dayglows, holy shit, bad. Moneyshot, terrible. Sweathogs, really bad. Pariah, even worse. The Midnights, not a stitch of talent. The list goes on and on...He was the one that told me about this site so I could check out more shows. It's a great idea and well put together. Wish we had something like this in Montreal. Listened to allot of tracks over the last few days and the only ones that I really liked were Sonic Dooms stuff. Cool name too! Anyhow, those are just my opinions and I had some time to kill this morning so I thought I would post them. I'm sure I'll get some kinda of feedback. Judging from what I've seen on this site, it won't be pretty I'm sure but...that's the way it goes. Peace out yall! - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:09am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | Fuck it let's go for beers then!!! - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:16am | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | Oye! U say when n where! Lead me to some of the good bands if there are any. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:17am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | This afternoon, gotta "jam" tonight (in the O.B.) then plaster time.... - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:19am | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | sorry gotta hang with my bro, maybe play a little with his band. another time I'm here for another 3 weeks and like this site. I'll check later - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:22am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | which band? by the way, who else wants to go for beers then? hoo-hoo-hoooo..... - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:23am | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | They don't have a name yet and I am subbing for him on bass cause he can't find one that's any good or even has gear. Mostly metal and ska, not big on the ska an not that good on bass so its hard, but the metal is right up my alley - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:25am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | what do you normally like to listen to? - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:41am | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | Dope, Hell at last, Dogpound, Baloney Ponyz, Strange Candy, Shins, Sun Kil Moon, Death Cab for cutie. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:49am | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | >but apparently you guys have a serious lack of trained, good musicians. I dunno, they have fun and play gigs, and if they were that bad, then noone would come out and support the bands. Sweathogs are awesome live, BTW. I've heard quite a few bands from Montreal, I dunno, the bands sound similar playing wise. Must be an east coast thing *shrug* - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:58am | ||
| Daryl Armour User Info... | You think moneyshot is Terrible? you suck! - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:10am | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | even the shittiest playa can have fun...my point was it seems like allot o talk and thats all! BTW like I said, my opinion but yea moneyshot sucked. an locally, if all ya got to support is crap then do it i say! no harm in that. but no aspirations either. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:19am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | actually, there really isn't that much shit talking around here these days. Nobody brags about this or that hardly ever because we're all in the same boat. Too bad too, I got in this for the shit talking and backstabbing. Fucking losers....bunch of fucking losers everyone of you. Not me, you. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:25am | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | BTW Griffin. just so you know, I know that it's a mcuh bigger city with more people but great playa's are on every corner in montreal. There's a serious lack of bad ones there. This is a good thing, but what does that say about the dedication of local playas here? - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:30am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | It's not a major media centre here, so there's more originality and less radio friendly bands here than most cities. Bands that want to get somewhere almost always end up moving to Van or someplace else to get more attention. Seems that way anyway. Also, hardly any bigger name bands ever come here, partly due to the cost of getting a touring band on the ferry and back, and partly due to the fact that shows are generally poorly attended. Oh well... - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:34am | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | Well at the risk of sounding peevish I might mention that the only good bands I've ever heard out of Montreal are (early) Voivod and My Dog Popper. This from a city approximately 10 times the size of Victoria. And the francophone pop from there is excruciatingly bad. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:40am | ||
| Livevic Scott User Info... | Hey Johnny, I wanna hear some examples of bands you really think are great from Montreal? - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:14pm | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | well pop is excuciatingly bad everywhere, let alone french pop. but there are allot more bands (even though I hate some of their music) that have come from Montreal. Frank Marino, april wine, corey heart, voivod, aldo nova, my dog popper etc...and then there are the monsters like oscar peterson, charlie biddle, bob mover, dave turner, alain caron, uzeb some of the greates jazz guys. peterson wasn't born there but has lived there most of his adult life and calls himself a montrealer. so...not sure what you're talkin about. to make a killer band you need killer playa's is what i'm sayin and it appears their aint any here to speak of. back home there are tons thats why you need to be good, to keep up with everyone else. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:19pm | ||
| ML7Mike User Info... | Good bands from Montreal area: Voivod Quo Vadis Martyr Anonymus Cryptopsy Kataklysm Neuraxis Dead Brain Cells Ghoulunatics Gorguts Incidently, Meatlocker Seven are represented by a label in Verdun QC which I understand is like a suburb of Montreal. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:36pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | uhh... I heard of April Wine before. Corey Hart too. I don't wear no goddamn sunglasses at night though. Okay, yes I do but they're prescription. Honest. If you're talking about jazz "monsters" or whatever, you're in the wrooooong place newton! - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:37pm | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | some cool metal bands Hollow Reign, Jaded, Rebearth. and whatz wid the newton? is that a western thang?? an yea, aint seen many jazzers around here so point taken. bro said some hot playa's come to town sometimes though. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:49pm | ||
| julien sorel User Info... | Montreal is not ten times the size of Vancouver! Maybe you meant 0.75 times the size. You're crazy. I love Montreal, and there are definitely a few good bands to come from there... Voivod, The Dears, Men Without Hats, Les Georges Leningrad, Rufus Wainwright, and others. BUT, proportionally, that is, per capita, I say it loses big time to Victoria. Except, I guess if you mean there aren't as many long-haired, guitar-tapping Eddie Van Halens (or whatever) around; it's probably less of a "technical" city as a whole. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:54pm | ||
| ML7Mike User Info... | Alot of the hottest jazz players on Van Isle are older retired guys who live up island. My dad is a jazzman, and old, so he knows all these old time cats through his fogie scene, who have made a living touring jazz all their lives. My dad's wife is a somewhat established local jazz vocalist, but then again she is from California so maybe that doesnt count either. Anyhow, my dad is more an amateur jazz player ( but well rounded, he has played Clarinet, Sax, guitar, vibes, drums and keys at different points in his life, now he concentrates on stand up bass ) but he gets together with these masters for fun jams and they are very good to watch. Best jazz Ive seen in Victoria.. Joe Pass and The Christian Escoude Trio ( amazing band from France, Christians father was in the Django Reinhardt band ) - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:55pm | ||
| Fred the Dragon User Info... | Some players that pop to mind: Rick May Tom Salter (JAF) Dan Lapp Danuel Tate Ian McPherson Hugh Fraser Caroline Neopole Carolyn Mark The Eccelstons Bill Hilly Band Scott Henderson Steve Barrie Brendan from Jets Overhead Leigh Grisewood The Wassabi Collective (I don't like their music, but they're killer players) What's the old saying? 90% of music you hear represents the lowest 10% of talent? - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 1:10pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | The legendary movie DAZED AND CONFUSED: NERD AT MOON TOWER BEER BUST: I was just making an observation, somebody was smoking some pot... FONZI: What the fuck are you Isaac fucking Newton? So I'm a fucking pothead, so I'm blazing with my friends - you got a problem with that? I came here for 2 reasons - to kick some ass and drink some beer. Looks like we're almost outta beer. I'll be watching you Newton. Or something like that. Newton. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 1:26pm | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | well none of the playa's that I know have long hair and tapp their guits. my point was this (and i may be speaking mostly based on what i hear and see) but if we were to take per capita, there's still a hell of allot more dedicated playas there than here (based on what i have seen in the time i have been in bc). seems like eastern playas are more dedicated to bettering their craft as well...maybe its an ear thing? maybe peeps from the east have more trained ears cause they hear and see more. not puttin anyone down its just a fact of life, montreal has more of a scene and when that happens people have wider pallats. anyway you have a great board here. my bro don't like it cause of the dissin that he says goes on but...thanks livevictoria for ya feedback. ps if ya take the whole frazer valley and compare it to all the area of Montreal including laval(which is 2nd or 3rd largest city in PQ) i think you'd see 10 times the size and population. newton lol - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 1:56pm | ||
| Get serious User Info... | But how long have you actually been in Victoria? A few days? C'mon man.... I'm off to Montreal now. After 48 hours there I'll send you all a detailed report of the "scene" there. Obviously all you need is a few days somewhere to learn all there is to learn of the talent pool of a city's musicians. Quite frankly I think you sound like a tool. You started this emotional thread just to irritate people. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 2:10pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | sounds like it worked. Newton. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 2:26pm | ||
| Victoria guy User Info... | Wasn`t there some guy from Victoria that wrote a whole bunch of hit tunes for everyone and their dog... now what was his name, oh ya David Foster, and wasn`t there a gal from Nanaimo that married Elvis Costello, now what was her name... Diana Krall? The talent is here, maybe you`re hanging in the wrong places. Oh and you`re right about the litter, but have you been in Vancouver? Dirty, dirty. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 6:08pm | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | you speak and write very well but your reading skills make me wonder??? Nowhere did I say how long i been here. i did say that i have had the chance to see bands every night and almost all of em sucked. been here for weeks so get serious get serious! come to montreal anytime you want and dis what ever you want however long after you arrive nobody cares, yea newton lol but i will say that victoria is a great town. just needs playa's i guess. even the people that i've met that play have said so... - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 6:11pm | ||
| Fred the Dragon User Info... | Sounds like you're frequenting a combination of Steamers, Logan's, and Lucky. Come back when you've been to at least 8 venues, a total of 5 times each. Then you can make some asinine observation about the talent in this city. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 8:32pm | ||
| RSBF User Info... | why is it that everytime i read a post by j.b.rotten i hear J.Rock from The Trailer Park Boys in my head. "playa's" you know what'um sayyyyyyyyyyyyyyin.... johnny, do you wear big gold chains and a cap pulled off to the side of your head? just curious of course ; ) p.s. GO HABS GO! so when are you leaving Victoria? we'll throw a big going away party for you and we won't let any bands from Victoria play......... just for you! - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:09pm | ||
| josh User Info... | From statscan 2001 census: Greater Montreal (includes laval) 3,426,350 http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census01/products/standard/popdwell/Table-CMA-C.cfm?CMA=462 Metro Vancouver (does not include abbotsfort) pop 1,986,965 http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census01/products/standard/popdwell/Table-CMA-C.cfm?CMA=933 Greater Abbotsford: pop 147,370 http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census01/products/standard/popdwell/Table-CMA-C.cfm?CMA=932 total 2,134,335 Greater Victoria pop 311,902 http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census01/products/standard/popdwell/Table-CMA-C.cfm?CMA=935 Greater Montreal, including laval, has 1.53 times the population of greater Vancouver and about 11 times the population of Victoria. Montreal also only had a 3% growth rate from 1996 to 2001, while Vancouver had an 8%. - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:37am | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | according to your link, victoria has 141,985 population. vancouver & abbotsford 838.897 and Montreal 1.473.491 If you looked even further, you would see that the stats from 2002 are even greater. Apporximate population of BC 2.641 Million Quebec 4.987 Million Land & fresh water mass wise; BC 944.735 Quebec 1.542.056 So I stand somewhat corrected and so do you. and back to the original question/observation. why so dirty in vancouver and victoria when everyone proffesses to be eco maniacs? as for go habs go...i happen to be a vancouver cannucks fan an have been for years...as for giving me a send off? with aholes like that? no wonder you have so many bad attitude playa's an who the frig is trailer park guys??? answer the question if not then take flyin leap! bro was right about the este'du blokes. - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 8:51am | ||
| Korn Koiler User Info... | "and back to the original question/observation. why so dirty in vancouver and victoria when everyone proffesses to be eco maniacs?" If this is so true, then why is it that Vancouver and Victoria consistently get voted into the top 3 of the international competition of most beautiful cities. Personally , I dont find Victoria dirty at all, although Vancouver, like SO MANY other large cities, has its ugly and dirty areas. - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 9:47am | ||
| josh User Info... | those numbers of 1.4 million for montreal, and 800 whatever thousand for vancouver are for DWELLINGS, not population. silly frenchy - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:00am | ||
| Matt User Info... | BC is the third most populated province, with approx 4 MILLION PEOPLE get it straight, "playa" - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:39am | ||
| HardcoreKid User Info... | JohnnyBRotten at least we can agree that Moneyshot sucks but Pariah with the first singer was killer way more stage presence and definate vocal/music talent. The drummer in Pariah is one of the best drummers in town. I think he is in Self Inflicted too. But I am not sure what you came here to find. Nature or music.... Now so JohnnyB can understand! Yo Holmes at least we have mad hate for Moneyshot but Pariah was dope with the first M.C. definate fo realness in the beats and rhymes department. The beat master for Pariah is one of the sickest in town. I think he is down with the Self Inflicted crew fo rizzle. I'm like trippin try to check yo mental on what you came here for. Snufalufagus or beats. Peace Dawg! - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:49am | ||
| Chryst_al_Mighty User Info... | Hey I think Montreal is a great place in comparison to vic/van - except for the lack of ocean, crappy weather and all those fucking french people. tabernac! - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:59am | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | no they were not DOMICILES! As you will see, "Population of Census Metropolitan areas" Check again moron! http://www.statcan.ca/english/Pgdb/demo05.htm as for the frency comments, well your that kind of aholes that gives westerners a bad name...met lotsa fellow quebecers here (in the military) that all say the same thing, that types like you have obviously never met a french person...just a friggin moron that loves to fly the "am i ever stupid flag". if ya dont understand that it means that your a bigot! while people in the east have mostly nice things to say about victoria and vancouver, bc'ers seem to find it neccessary to put others down...guess thats cause you never been anywhere but "prince george or williams lake lol" montreal and the area is just a beautiful as here, even more so...not the same colour green everywhere and the fall is world renouned for its beauty. weather is great in the summer and winter there are more ski hills than you can shake a stick at. what we miss in weather like yours we gain in class, stature and respect. the people that vote vancouver as top 3 place to visit are obviously from vancouver cause most place TO, MTL, OTT, Ville Que know that its one of the dirties places in Canada and the crime rate is the highest per capita than anywhere else...so toot your own horn again este'd pede! - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:01pm | ||
| josh User Info... | i wont miss you when you leave - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:20pm | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | yea well josh, as expected...but ya know what? your always welcome to visit montreal an we'll treat ya nice! warning though, i would watch the frenchie stuff unless ya wanna take a swim in the st lawrence river. but from the looks a ya, you'll probably never leave this island at all and that aint a bad thang for the rest of the planet, crousseaur....... - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:58pm | ||
| Chryst_al_Mighty User Info... | Hey you may have herd of a little mag called -Conde Nast Traveller. Here's the results from the "2003 Readers Choice Awards" ... http://travel.epicurious.com/cntraveler/lists/readerschoice03/topcities/amcities Victoria, B.C. 80.7 Vancouver 79.6 Quebec City 77.1 San Miguel de Allende, Mexico 73.7 Oaxaca, Mexico 72.2 Montreal 72.0 Cuzco, Peru 71.0 Toronto 70.6 Buenos Aires 70.5 Rio de Janeiro 67.5 So suck on that popsicle freedom fry... the people have spoken! - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 1:00pm | ||
| el fuckface-o User Info... | brotten. you are on crank if you can find any redeeming qualities of any band in victoria. you list a couple that you enjoy. meatlocker seven and sonic doom. two purveyors of metal slackdom. you should really go in search of the perish. they are right up your alley, big shot. - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 1:13pm | ||
| Lurker User Info... | I'm interested to know how johnnybrotten saw the dayglo abortions play in the past few weeks and judged them as "holy shit, bad." Where was this show again? - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 2:51pm | ||
| Wolfe User Info... | Don't be so hard of ole' Johnny boy. He's like a lot of frenchmen, he's just bitter that he lives in a conquered province. I'm sure he'll feel better after he gets home,gives his feet a good rub with a pumice stone, loads his belly with poutine, and goes on a rant about how the world doesnt understand them and that thier "pure" latin blood is what makes them "real" Quebecois. - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 3:30pm | ||
| Dr.V User Info... | It just occurred to me , through the haze of slamming, that Johnny B Rotten is a Monks song, that we currently play, ha cool song, check out Nuvo Wavo at Lucky Bar Jan. 24th(cheap plug). - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 5:29pm | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | it seems that some of you could work for cnn. you can find any poll that suites your point of view...hey cryst_al_meth_head, found this one at the same site...quebec city before victoria???and its gets friggin cold there. TOP 10 FOREIGN CITIES Sydney 85.2 Rome 81.6 Florence 81.5 Paris 81.2 Bangkok 80.3 Quebec City 79.8 Vancouver 79.5 Venice 79.5 Victoria 78.3 Vienna 77.2 as for the frenchie bigots...listen you can visit montreal anytime and we would welcome you with open arms but what is probably closer to the truth is that you will never leave this little island. prince george or williams lake is as far as you are probably willing to go...and for a conquered people well we seem to have done pretty well at running this country for 30 out of 50 years...and if you do come for a visit (which is doubtful as bigots like to stay where they feel safe) i would watch the frenchie comments unless you like swimmin in the st lawrence river. and to wolfee, you wouldnt know culture if it stood up an bit you on your face. better run to that bastion of historic events...vancouver and learn...the 150 odd years that its been around must have a window on some culture. haha not like montreals almost 400 years of existance. no culture there where french, english, east asian, asian, italian, polish, irish etc...all live happily together. where the corner store is the "depanuer" not "the chink store". where people actually use this new thing called "spices" on their foods. where you don't find telephone poles on the street and a highway is actually a highway not a street just named a highway. where auto insurance rates are barable because people can actually drive. where you can buy beer in any store anywhere until 12 and not pay an arm an a leg and its cold withough paying an extra 3 or 4 bucks to have them chill it for you. i dont blame you for being a little jelious. ps i asked about this parish an was told that if some of you dont agree with what others are trying to do then you diss them...now thats honorable...just because you dont agree??? dawg...whats wid that??? scared cause someone tried somethin that you dont have the nerve too?? i like victoria very much and have met many very nice peoples but some of you are obvioulsy envious because you are too affraid to travel because the rest of the world would see you for exactly what you are...bigots. gladfully i have met more nice people than idiots here. come to montreal and we'll show you how a gracious city welcomes vistors as well. an you wont find many scared individuals like these ones cause most everyone there has traveled outside of at least their province haha! dawwg! - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 6:51pm | ||
| [+} User Info... | wow. one man. against the message board. sounds like an epic film in the making. - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 7:15pm | ||
| D�ds anger User Info... | Yeah keep plugging montreal , I have family there and been there, this place slays that hole. How can ya bitch soo much about here but not mind that smell allover montreal? smells horrible, and not to mention the fact that every store is enough to make a bc dude like me literally gag and have to leave. Montreal has more bands to see because its HUGE, and out of those all I care to ever hear again are kataklysm and cryptopsy... And from what I saw, montreal is no nicer than dougie.. I don't know where your bro has you hangin out at man but christ, are you in esquimalt or what??? VICTORIA FUCKING RULES!!!!!! As for van... yeah that place is a shit hole, but at least theres lots to do. - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 8:21pm | ||
| Teste Coils User Info... | Hey, [+}, do you think he could have a cool sword that glows? And a magical helmet? - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 9:07pm | ||
| Troutbreath User Info... | I love Montreal. I've spent time there and if I had to live somewhere else besides Victoria, MontreaL would be my next choice, maybe in a funky old apartment on St, Catherines. BUT, I've also been there in the spring and I don't even want to think about the nameless stuff that was hiding in the snow banks. No dog shit on the streets? Yeah its all frozen and buried in the snow!!!! Snow? you know it's that white stuff that falls from the sky. Yeah, I know, I couldn't believe it when I heard about it either. - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 9:05am | ||
| METALNECK User Info... | Sydney 85.2 Rome 81.6 Florence 81.5 Paris 81.2 Bangkok 80.3 Quebec City 79.8 Vancouver 79.5 Venice 79.5 Victoria 78.3 Vienna 77.2 Hey Montreal didn't even make this list so it is kinda funny that you use it as a plug for montreal. Last time I checked Quebec City was not in Montreal. But what can you expect from a "playa"? - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:54pm | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | and perhaps you should learn to read metalneck_less_...i used it as an example that anyone could find stats to prove there point! but i guess you missed the short bus on the day they were giving precise readin lessons playa! but you did study a bit of geagraphy in the short bus cause your rite, quebec city is not montreal but i woulda thought that the differing names woulda given you a pretty big hint i figure quebec CITY was an obvious denotation that it was not just a city in quebec but...duhhh! - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 1:13pm | ||
| Brett User Info... | If anyone's given Quebecers a bad name it's you. Why do you feel it is soo necessary to comment on how bad our scene is compared to yours. I personally don't think it is all that bad for the size of the city. And how can you think the Dayglo's are bad??? - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 1:56pm | ||
| crispy User Info... | Seems like Johhnyb is just a little insecure. Tiny penis perhaps. Definately not looking for a rewarding career in tourism that's for sure. Go home and "playa wid dat" tiny dick you've got cos you've got a lot of stretchin to do, ya fuckin Frog. Or have I just started a debate on penis sizes between Quebec and B.C. hahaha Bring on the stats. "We're bigger" "No we're bigger" "Yeah your bigger"... ...Bigger idiots. - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 2:02pm | ||
| METALNECK User Info... | Ok there if you can find any stats to prove your point then why couldn't you find stats on Montreal? I think your the one missing the point buddy, and I think your missing a few more things too, like a proper vocabulary, playa. - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 2:17pm | ||
| jackass User Info... | Last time I was in Montreal, one of your "friendly" locals would barely even talk to me in her own store, because I wasn't french. I asked her if she spoke english, she asked if I spoke french (If I spoke french, would I ask if you spoke English fool?), and when I said no, she muttered under her breath, "well why not?" and walked away. The answer to that question, bitch, is BECAUSE I DON'T LIVE IN QUEBEC, that's why. - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 2:33pm | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | 1-so this is where you find all the biggots. never met any since i been here now i know why, cause your all in your homes on computers. well the good name of victoria wont be tarnished by your remaining in your homes so may as well stay there and spout your biggoted crap to all your other biggoted friends. 2-if french people come here and go into a store they speak or try to speak english (this is a bilingual country by law!)why the frigg do some westerners feel like your doing quebecers a big favour, or become insulted when french people speak french. you ones who say shit like that are just as bad as the seperatists that we hate...just the flip side of the coin. friggin biggots with no asperation for higher learning or broadening your horizons. why dont you visit sometime instead of listening to the bullcrap western media. but i ask this question of some people that call orientals "chinks" on a regular basis or natives "chugs". people that minimalize what they dont understand...how many time since here have i heard a white person insult natives by saying that they are all drunks??? sure we have problems in quebec too but most people are worldly enough to recognize that this kind of behaviour is unacceptable. not some of you guys though. as for my grammer or whatever its a chat board if you want perfectness then read a dictionary or join the mensa chat board. oh yea and the next time i go to paris and can speak with the people and be respected because of higher learning and the willingness to better myself i will think of you jackass. just another loser tourista that couldnt be bothered to respect someone elses culture. playa! an crispy appitimizes the stereotypical biggoted loser. chump! - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 2:55pm | ||
| jackass User Info... | I went into that store with the nicest attitude I could have for somebody who didn't speak the local native language..I respect that. I've been around...I know what it means to go somewhere and respect the culture BECAUSE it is different than mine. Hell, I have no culture I could honestly call mine. Yeah, this is a bilingual country, but who needs to speak french out here? The only french I have to know is enough to read my cereal box if I'm too lazy to turn it around. It'd be a totally different thing if the french population was much higher around here, but it isn't so.... Hahahahaahhahahaha, that slays me that you think you can go to Paris and speak the language and think you are being respected...kay-beck-kwah. I know several people from France who laugh at the shitty slang you guys call French. But you're right, you'd do better at it than I would. BTW, I can speak some french, and I can also speak some Spanish, and not because I was forced to learn it in high school, but because I have chosen to learn for my own enjoyment, "because of higher learning and the willingness to better myself". But I don't need to explain this to you, you're french canadien, somehow superior to the rest of us. - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 3:34pm | ||
| SentencedtoBurn User Info... | >"Don't be so hard of ole' Johnny boy. He's like a lot of frenchmen, he's just bitter that he lives in a conquered province." hahahahahahahahah Best.Burn.Ever. - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 3:55pm | ||
| Adrenaline Animal User Info... | just another loser tourista that couldnt be bothered to respect someone elses culture. playa! Sounds alot like you there Johnny - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 4:02pm | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | sounds not at all like me. I speak fluent english and french. also some italian and spanish. you wouldnt know that i wasnt from here unless i had not told you gringo! and why not do a little more research there aswipe i think that youd find that we in quebec are taught parisian french. schooling is all parisian not quebecois. when my father goes to paris they think that he is from there...so these people that you speak of know nothing. france loves quebec and visa versa. i look forward to the day when biggots like you are few and far between. make a little island called biggot island for all you biggots to live out your miserable lives hating others until you are no more. some parents take there kids one step forwards and some take there kids ten steps back, guess which one you are mon amis? bon chance! - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 4:16pm | ||
| jackass User Info... | I think you meant to say mes amis, there frenchie. And you're right, for the *most* part, the french we learn in high school is parisian, but it really depends on who is teaching you (and I don't know about you, but all my teachers were english, one was east indian). The big difference is in how it's spoken. Quebecois is different, much more slang, that's why they find it funny. Kinda like how we laugh at the newfies there eh boy. Whatever, it doesn't really matter, I was just getting a jab in there. and yeah, since you know me so well, you can see I'm all about the hating. - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 4:42pm | ||
| XY-SATAN User Info... | Who cares what you think J-hole , you sound like a jerk anyways and a person with to much time on your hands . .... oh yea Ren� L�vesque sucks cocks in hell ! - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 4:49pm | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | i dont know you but all i can go by are your words...like frenchie, frog...those are not polite words and words do mean something after all, nes pas? - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 5:08pm | ||
| jackass User Info... | look back through your comments and see how many names you've been calling there monsieur - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 5:20pm | ||
| crispy User Info... | Biggot NO. I only hate Frogs! What's wrong wit dat playa? - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 5:43pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | if you ask my recently edjucationed ass, Canada itself is a boring place. Planet Earth is pretty weak actually. I heard Jupiter is like 1000times better with like these bands that are AMAZING, one is called Bleed An Outdated Blizzard Dear Sky and they're jazz/metal/punk/grind/ska/bluegrasscore with 20 members all of which graduated from Jupiter Music School. Plus it's so clean on Jupiter, you could eat shit from a local's anus and you wouldnt get sick! Their poo tastes like lemon candy! And people are so nice there that the minute you meet someone new they are ready with scones and tea for you to enjoy as you talk to them about how wonderful life is on Jupiter!!! Fuck you GUYS , JUPITER IS THE SHIT. You're all sounding as silly as what I wrote above. All of you. Shut the fuck up and quit being a bunch of whiny girls. - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 7:33pm | ||
| dan r User Info... | My mom's from montreal. I love quebec, but I still don't like you. Despite what you seem to want to think (fun to flash the bigot card, huh?), it's obvious the problem everybody has with you might not be that you're french. The problem is you're an idiot. Come on a local board and insult the place that people call home. Tell them it's dirty and ugly. Come on a board of local musicians and tell them all the musicians in town suck. You expected positive reactions? Then you go on to tell everybody how great it is where you come from, and how impressed we should all be that you're from there. You sound exactly like an american tourist expecting the backwater canadians to be impressed by your superiority. What you have is french canadian "small man syndrome", and a need to feel oppressed fueling the belief that you are oppressed. I've seriously never heard a bunch of people who yell "bigot" as quickly as french canadians do. (remember, these are my aunts and uncles i'm talking about) Funny thing is, you classifying a whole province of "westerners" as bigots is the most bigoted comment that's been made so far on this thread - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:20pm | ||
| korn koiler User Info... | My dink is a bigot. Its bigot than anyone else's. I have the bigotist dink in all of the western canada bigot dink scene. In fact, Im the president of the Bigot Dink Foundation. We raise money for those with shorty's to get counseling. awwhawhaw, fermez la bouche!! - Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:59am | ||
| H User Info... | And the dumbass award goes to Livevictoria.com! You guys are idiots - this guy is a troll. And I suspect I know him, too. - Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:06pm | ||
| jackass User Info... | yeah, but it's so much fun to fight admit it, we all liked it - Wed, 17 Dec 2003 1:56pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Wow, i fergot about this thread... johnnybrotten writes: This is a good thing, but what does that say about the dedication of local playas here? Well if the artists weren't dedicated, then there wouldn't be any shows, I just feel that a lot of bands really do it for fun, or don't know how to market themselves. What it says is, if we had a central label (sorta like SubPop in Seattle) and got the word around, then perhaps the bands would do a lot better, but that's just my opinion. I dunno about your Montreal artists are better comment, it's like night and day. Both cultures are so different. I can honestly say I don't like a lot of bands from Quebec, but ones I do like are: Saint Catherines, The Box, Grim Skunk, Fatal Illness, Ripcordz, and a few others I can't remember. - Wed, 17 Dec 2003 3:59pm | ||
| Dick Splint User Info... | "what we miss in weather like yours we gain in class, stature and respect." That pretty much says all we need to know about you. Now go on back to the Anus of Canada and nibble on some shit while you practise your modes. - Wed, 17 Dec 2003 7:24pm | ||
| METALNECK User Info... | HAHAHAHAHA Ben you had me going for a minute. - Wed, 17 Dec 2003 7:41pm | ||
| norm User Info... | Come on Johnny B. The average Quebecker goes to Paris and gets laughed at for his accent. Duh. - Wed, 17 Dec 2003 9:31pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Ya know, now I think about it, this thread is just for hacking someone down from Montreal who knows nothing about our scene (as small as it is), and was expecting a lot more. I don't really know if I should be disappointed over a lot of people on here that couldn't handle a challenge and decided to hack the person down cause he's from a place we know little about, or just ignore it (I blame tonights beer fest to Granville Island Brewings "Lions Winter Ale" (they keep bringing it back, it's awesome ALE, alas, I put a product placement into this conversation :). Hey I totally agree with him, to a point. He's only seen the shows, and I doubt he knows many of us. He's basing his decision cause he's used to the scene where he's from, and was expecting something different. I dunno, but this thread has made me chuckle at least :) Wow, it's wierd, cause all the French-Canadian people I know or spoke too (eg. Saint Catherines) we're really cool and friendly people. In any case, he should of explained himself better, I hate translating! :) - Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:53pm | ||
| METALNECK User Info... | You guys are quick. Look at what he has posted. Notice something? He speaks poor french and HAS NOT seen the bands he has mentioned unless he has been here for 6 months. It is a local named Bill Me Later. Eh Playa? Come over and get drunk tommorow K? - Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:02pm | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | i had resigned myself to leave the board as i was getting pissed and so were others. Please read the messages, i love victoria and the cannucks I was just asking/observing what i had seen while in bc. check it out playa's that all! a few frenchies comments and its game on! merci toul'monde - Thu, 18 Dec 2003 5:22am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | don't worry about this bunch of faggots giving you a hard time. everyone here is a frustrated "musician" who's big "break" is just around the corner. Me included. Montreal isn't a bad city, but I hate the fucking Canadiens so go fuck yourself pierre..... - Thu, 18 Dec 2003 3:15pm | ||
| Masturbating The War God User Info... | this is one of the more entertaining threads I've seen here in some time. - Thu, 18 Dec 2003 3:57pm | ||
| Fred the Dragon User Info... | toul'monde? This guy is not a francophone. - Thu, 18 Dec 2003 5:01pm | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | En fait, la mani�re appropri� d'�crire ceci serait "tout le monde" mais j ai �crit une version mais des mercis de Quebecois de la le�on. Veuillez d�montrer votre connaissance de la langue francaise en �crivant quelques lignes. - Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:07pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | cool man, who wrote that for you? Death to Les Habitents.... - Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:09pm | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | personne n'ont �crit cela pour moi. mais peut-�tre vous voudriez lui donner un essai ? - Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:11pm | ||
| Fred the Dragon User Info... | Hey dude, I never said I was a francophone. Nice French-English dictionary though. I think mine's still in a box somewhere. - Fri, 19 Dec 2003 5:47pm | ||
| Masturbating The War God User Info... | Ack, I was in paris and attempted to speak french, most people wouldn't give you the time of day if you approached them in English. But I would have to agree it makes me angry when people who only know one language get insulted when someone of a different language attempts to speak english, and do so fairly well be it broken. At least they are trying. On a side note, I hated french in high school, so I took a different language instead, french is gross. - Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:06am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | Yeah I noticed in France that even the most flailing attempts at French are greatly appreciated. Except Paris. Being Canadian reeeally helps to get along there as well. They remember.... - Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:17am | ||
| Broccoli User Info... | what'd that guy say? - Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:46pm | ||
| The Stalker User Info... | Mis penser que ceci est vrai des Canadiens fran�ais. Bien que j'ai mang� une femmes fran�aises une fois. Le fonctionnement avec les Musiciens fran�ais a eu au cours des ann�es des r�sultats int�ressants. La fiert� domine. - Mon, 22 Dec 2003 4:23pm | ||
| Anonymous User Info... | Why is this idiot speaking french now?? - Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:43am | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | Enough frog talk or else I'll start posting in Dutch! - Tue, 23 Dec 2003 1:23am | ||
| Fools in Love User Info... | Hey - we play the song Johnny Be Rotten - anyone remember who first released the song (British band very popular here in Canada - so much so they didn't release the album in the UK or USA) By the way - great to see such a long posting about Canadian music scene that hardly mentions Toronto! - Tue, 23 Dec 2003 8:41am | ||
| ML7Mike User Info... | The Monks Oive got drugs in me pocket, and I dont know what to wit em. - Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:33am | ||
| D�ds anger User Info... | Hva skjedd noensinne til Norsk? - Wed, 24 Dec 2003 8:37pm | ||
| Teste Coils User Info... | I don't like french... it makes me cry. - Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:59am | ||
| KnifeGhost User Info... | Moi, j'aime ce Johnnybrotten, mais je croix qu'il faut voir un peut de musique differant...... Je ne sais pas son g�ut, mais je croix que nous avons beaucoup de (talent) en Victoria..... As-tu �couter Chet, Ghosts, Run Chico Run, The Fine Options, Immculate Machine, Frog Eyes, ou les autres? Il-n'y-a pas du (wankers) la..... - Fri, 2 Jan 2004 4:36pm | ||
| johnnybrotten User Info... | Mon temps est en hausse ici dans Victoria et je retourne � la maison aujourd'hui. Merci pour l'information l�-dessus ces bandes mais est trop tardif. Venez visiter Montr�al pour voir quelques joueurs tr�s bons. Au revoir Victoria et bonne chance ! - Sat, 3 Jan 2004 5:55am | ||
| KnifeGhost User Info... | Ah, ce n'est pas un probl�m.... Je veut visiter Montr�al encore..... Je suis n�e la, mais j'avez seulment visiter deux fois...... J'ai tant d'amis la, et j'veux les visiter aussi...... - Sat, 3 Jan 2004 4:35pm | ||
| Broccoli User Info... | forme le bouche el motherfuckers en sol - Sun, 4 Jan 2004 7:57am | ||
| METALNECK User Info... | kiss ass - Sun, 4 Jan 2004 12:40pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Firm'et la bouche, il est ouvre la port, et tabernac?!? (yes, my french SUX!) - Mon, 5 Jan 2004 10:05am | ||
| Pierce User Info... | Translation from above post, i do speak french: Firm'et la bouche, il est ouvre la port, et tabernac?!? (yes, my french SUX!) Hard and the mouth, he is open the door, and christ(or any other religious curse-word) - Mon, 5 Jan 2004 5:35pm | ||
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