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Homophobic Bigot spreading hatein Victoria today
| Message Board > Controversy and Quarantine > Homophobic Bigot spreading hatein Victoria today |
| Comrade Black User Info... |  I tried to talk to him which quickly turned into me yelling and practically threatening him, eventually after about 15 minutes I spit in his face and began to leave. A guy getting gas at the near by gas station thanked me for standing up to the guy and told me I should have knocked him out. The bigot hid behind the law, claiming he would call the pigs on me, which he never did, and I don't think would actually have done. He also claimed they had already been there today and left. If this is true than it shows the pigs obviously don't care. I think that when confronted with this kinda shit there are things we can do. the main one is make it impossible for him to spread his hate, I should have ripped the signs out of his fucking hands and disposed of tem... This also makes me think of the s.h.a.r.p.s. and how they removed organized white power groups by simply using force, obviously this strategy does not change the person mind, but it stops them from spreading their messages of hate of minorities to kids and other people in the community. - Sun, 1 Feb 2009 1:57am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Fighting hatred with hatred. Not really my way, but I don't disagree either. In Karate we greet with an open hand covering a closed fist. - Sun, 1 Feb 2009 2:22am | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | You should said you were gay and pretended to go for a stroke of his hair. Then when he threw a punch, you would legally be allowed to give him the shit-kicking he deserved. What a fuckface. - Sun, 1 Feb 2009 3:27am | ||
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| Zedius User Info... | I'm 100% against the fag hating religious train of thought, but I think that's out of line. Anyone has the right to stand around waving whatever flag they like, and I don't think you have the right to spit in his face, rip his signs, or burn his books. I think you have the right to promote a collective consciousness that sees him as an idiot. Not that I can blame you much for losing control. That level of ignorance certainly is rage inducing. Edit: It occurred to me that this post might sound preachy. It's just an opinion, and not meant to be judgemental. - Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:17am Edited: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:33am | ||
| Chopper User Info... | 'This also makes me think of the s.h.a.r.p.s. and how they removed organized white power groups by simply using force, obviously this strategy does not change the person mind, but it stops them from spreading their messages of hate of minorities to kids and other people in the community.' Someone's a little confused as to why we don't have a large population of white power skins anymore. The charter of rights and freedoms, more specifically the portions of the charter regarding spreading hate, is what got rid of the skins, not the SHARPS. Kinda hard to have a movement when all your leadership ends up in prison or deported. - Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:51am | ||
| Spinvis User Info... | Hmm, well I drove past there yesterday and there were a few cops he was talking to at the gas station, so I think they do care. - Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:37pm | ||
| Aidan Logins User Info... | "Anyone has the right to stand around waving whatever flag they like, and I don't think you have the right to spit in his face, rip his signs, or burn his books. " I think that if he has the right to wave any flag I have the right to tear down any flag. If he has the right to write any book, I have the right to burn that book. Not that I would. I would probably go the pretending to be gay to provoke him route. - Sun, 1 Feb 2009 6:16pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | There is a very good chance that the sign bearer is homosexual. Be careful when you consider violence. - Sun, 1 Feb 2009 8:42pm | ||
| Zedius User Info... | Aidan, I'm not talking about just burning books or tearing flags. I'm talking about directly entering his space and tearing down the flag he's waving, and messing with his shit because he has an opinion that differs from yours. I don't think people are really allowed to do that. I know if anyone tried it with me I would consider it grounds to defend myself. - Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:07pm | ||
| Comrade Black User Info... | I consider holding a sign promoting hatred or fear of homosexuals in my community to be grounds for self defense - Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:15pm | ||
| Nicholas Antoni Marek Gibas User Info... | And I thought those lines of pro-lifers were out of place in Vic...holy... - Mon, 2 Feb 2009 2:00am | ||
| Bounce User Info... | He is lucky all he got was spit in the face! When I was 17 there was a disgusting amount of morons lined along Blanshard Street holding picket signs and dead baby pictures ect...pro life anti woman’s choice pieces of shit, they got a squirt guns full of piss to the face, what you did was pretty tame! - Mon, 2 Feb 2009 1:24pm | ||
| Aidan Logins User Info... | Yeah, Zedius I get what you're saying but my answer is the same. If he has the right to attack me, I have the right to attack him. I don't know if I have that right, that's a whole other thing- but if I don't then I don't think he should have the right either. "directly entering his space and ... messing with his shit because he has an opinion that differs from yours." That's exactly what he's doing in the first place. - Mon, 2 Feb 2009 2:08pm | ||
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| Zedius User Info... | So you guys seriously don't get the difference between a perceived mental attack and a real physical one? That's how wars get started. Edit: What exactly did this sign say on it that jumped out and punched you in the face? - Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:18pm Edited: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:19pm | ||
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| Menace to Sobriety User Info... | Yeah, but fight fire with fire it's human nature. No one should get away with holding up signs of hatred for all to see, keep it to yourself. I just wonder when we are going to get over this whole gay bashing thing, how the fuck does it even affect people who are not gay. Is it gross? Not really doesn't bother me, I’ve been hit on by gay men; I just say I’m straight and they back off. Doesn't bother me in the slightest I have gay friends and co-workers. As for the abortion thing it's there if girls need it and shouldn't be used as birth control but nevertheless it's a right that woman have and no one should hold up signs that make then feel like murderers, that's not cool. - Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:25am | ||
| stew User Info... | I know the fellow your speaking of. Im curious though, you claim his signs inferred homophobia. What specifically did the signs say? BTW Aidan Logins stated: "If he has the right to attack me, I have the right to attack him." You have a negative right to protection from hate propoganda. It doesn't follow you have a positive right to violence against such party. - Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:39pm Edited: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:45pm | ||
| NOISE NOT BOMBS User Info... | I don't remember exactly, something about homosexuality being an abomination and sick or something I was kinda flipping out at the time, it had Leviticus something under it. - Wed, 4 Feb 2009 1:53am | ||
| Sati User Info... | I can't say that anyone's reaction to something like that (spreading hate) is wrong, but my sense is that attacking them is giving them exactly what they're after. And I refuse to give people like that the satisfaction (beyond my withering glare of contempt). Their own misery & self-hatred is eating them alive anyway. Pro-lifers though, I don't know, the ones I've seen seem mellow & not all too bright, mostly women & kids, so I couldn't see condoning violence on them. I tend to agree with what trevor & others have said re non-violence though. NNB, ever read sun zhu's the art of war? - Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:49am | ||
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| stew User Info... | I've always been irked by the content of the 'mourning news' signs. obviously, its a whole lot of empty rhetoric, which given the rationality of most people, can see through that right away. And thats why guys like this are impossible to reason with. Faith based claims, by definition, are irrational. They beg more questions than they can answer. - Wed, 4 Feb 2009 5:03pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | jesus, if this guy gets your panties in a knot; I cant imagine what you think of the Phelps family from Kansas! does it really matter that one crazy nutter of a person wields around a sign saying such things?? I see shit like that and laugh/pity at/the person who thinks that way; its not like an old fashioned shit kicking does any good either. Give your head a shake next time you think you're some sort of crusader for equality. (now the phelps family is another entity unto itself... i share real pity for the kids in that family who get NO chance to a) make friends, b) experience life on their own c) develop independance... i think that freaks me out more than some sign toting weirdo who probably doesn't understand what a "fag" is.. and by that sense, if i were "european"; that sign to me would read "god hates cigarettes!"... im just joking on the latter) - Wed, 4 Feb 2009 5:12pm | ||
| Urbain Grandier User Info... | should have followed the asshole home...but im sure homos can stand up for themselves? - Wed, 4 Feb 2009 6:30pm | ||
| Doc User Info... | I think the quote NOISENOTBOMBS is looking for is "Thou shalt not lie with a man as with a woman. It is an abomination." (Exodus 21:12). The Orthodox (meaning not misguided protestant) view on homosexuality is that sexual relations between two people of the same sex (and really in the bible it only says men so God is in favour of girl on girl action) is abhorrent and against God's will, but the people themselves deserve the same treatment as anyone else. As for the abortion thing that people brought up, I'm not even gonna bring religion into this one. I think that anyone who has witnessed an abortion that was performed at a point after 9 weeks gestation would be agains the practice too. I recomend checking out the film "Lake of Fire" but be prepared to be ill, it's not a pretty sight. After watching that, I will never again make the claim that a fetus is not the same as a baby. ~My God is bigger than your God. Doc - Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:53pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | "Thou shalt not felch bubble butt boot-AY, off da chain!" (Rush 21:12) oh this stupid abortion thing now - JESUS......I'm reminded of a wondeful scene in "Polyester" in a clinic waiting room where a pro-lifing protester is hassling a patient by waving at her a huge crucifix with a baby doll stapled to it. ("Vera Drake", actually, had one of the most intense fucking performances - the lead actress honestly fucking blew me away) I'm not downtown often, but when I am, it's nice not seeing those "Watchtower" folk standing at street corners like they used to. They're harmless enough, I'spose, and never harangued me or anything. They were just......kinda - invasion-of-the-body-snatcher-y I guess. - Fri, 6 Feb 2009 4:31pm | ||
| Aidan Logins User Info... | "Thou shalt not lie with a man as with a woman. It is an abomination." (Exodus 21:12) That's not against gays anyways, it just means guys should do it missionary style- it's just awkward and uncomfortable. From the back is okay with God. - Fri, 6 Feb 2009 11:08pm | ||
| Doc User Info... | I feel sorry for you if you only get it missionary style Aidan. That means your missing out on about 95% of the fun. ~Pass me that tequila flavoured panty remover! Doc - Sat, 7 Feb 2009 1:50am | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | I think it's fantastic that people actually base their beliefs on a made up storybook. - Sun, 8 Feb 2009 4:40pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | oh...like...you are SO ex-communicated, dude. - Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:05pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Okay, but I'm eating all the cracker wafers and drinking all the wine before I leave. - Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:21pm | ||
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