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Platonic Friendships
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| Danielle User Info... | Hey all you guys out there: I have a question...how many female friends do you have that, if given the opportunity, would not do the wild thing with no matter what? I think in most male/female friendships (I'm not saying in all cases) at least one of the parties (usually the guy) would be all over it if it were offered up to them. Whatdya think? - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:38am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Before I was married, "platonic" was not in my vocabulary.....women just can't control themselves around me........ - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:54am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | You're kidding, yeah? - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 5:25am Edited: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 5:25am | ||
| Lucius User Info... | Is this a trick question? Is the pope catholic? Cheers, Lucius - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 8:30am | ||
| bbjones User Info... | Why don't we become friends and find out? - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 1:24pm | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | Platonic my ass!! My ex was spending more time with a "platonic" girlfriend than me for quite a while and when I would ask him about her and whether he had feelings for her he would tell me that she was "like a sister" to him and that nothing was going on. He also assured me that I was the best thing ever and "why would I ever cheat on you?". The story ends with him breaking up with me and promptly making her his gf. Actually a few of his friends filled me in on the truth. He had been dating her for a while. He denies it (he doesn't want her to know I guess) and she supports his claims. I say good riddance and it was the best thing to happen to me when it did because now I have a great relationship with the most trustworthy guy in this town. If you know who he is than you know how lucky I am. He has a few platonic gf's in his life. He slept with one years ago and they maintain a close friendship, most of the others he chose to not touch but it was always a possibility until something about them changed his mind. As for Trevor??? Good thing you're married buddy!! I'd be all over that ass! - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 2:43pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | At this point, PROBABLY ALL OF THEM :( - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 3:04pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | .........Blushing....... - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 3:09pm | ||
| Adrenaline Animal User Info... | I have lots of girls that I hang out with, that I have spent so much time with I think of some of them as sisters, so I would definatly not hook up with them. - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 3:24pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | .....and right back at ya sweetie! - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 3:31pm | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | aww...shucks... - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 3:40pm | ||
| Spring Rain User Info... | I have a few guy friends, we don't have sex!.....some of them even have girlfriends and we still don't have sex! oh yeah and Dumpstermesh are you not worried about your new boyfriends platonic girlfreinds? you said he even slept with one of them back in the day? ... ... she would not have access if that were me...i know how some girls can be...they stay attached and watch there "guy freinds" go through many different girlfriends while they are there to "comfort" them when each relationship ends!......my boyfreind has no girlfreinds but me...and i'm quite happy with that!..he is my best guy freind....and we so sleep together alot...lol...... - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 5:04pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | wanna go to the movies? - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 5:07pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | ....ummmm...okay.... - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 6:17pm | ||
| Spring Rain User Info... | i should exlain before someone jumps down my throat! my guy friends are my boyfriends friends so its not like i have guy friends and he's not aloud to have girlfriends... and i guess my girlfriends are his friends too! ...now did i spell friends right everytime??? wow... i think i did...lol.....i wanna go to the movies too!...i have free tickets!!! i baught like 20 boxes of cereal with the movie tickets in them !!!!!!!!!!!! - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 6:35pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | ....just as freinds though........ - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 7:56pm | ||
| Andrew User Info... | i think it all depends on the girl...cause we know all guys are dogs..but only some girls are. :) - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 8:54pm | ||
| Spring Rain User Info... | why of course...just friends trevor corey!!!!! I think alot of people wonder what it would be like to sleep with thier friends!!!!!...so metalqueen what are you doing later???? - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 9:14pm | ||
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| dumpstermesh User Info... | No Spring I'm not worried about my current bf's old friends. That would make me an insecure, jealous freak. I've met the only one he slept with and her and I are great friends through meeting. In fact she is making our wedding rings. Like I said you'd have to know him to know that he really is NOT A DOG. And he doesn't make friends with nasty girls that sleep with taken men, nor does he spend more time with anyone other than me. Naked sluts could throw themselves at him and he would be nothing but disgusted. And I have lots of male friends that are just friends. - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 9:32pm | ||
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| metalqueen User Info... | Yeah Ive had some really close guy friends,then they hit on me so it made it very uncomfortable to hang with them again.I know the good guys and the bad.I also know a few people that started out as best friends,fell in love,got married and are still together 15 years later.So I guess you never know whats going to happen till it hits ya in da face! btw Spring your tits are more like triple F,s - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:00pm | ||
| Dirk Diggler User Info... | triple xxx's lol - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:08pm | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | Spring I wasn't getting upset with you. If I was you would know it. You did, however, insinuate that I have reason to be cautious with Joe. Unfortunatly you don't know him so you can't understand what I mean. I wasn't suggesting that your bf is a dog either, because I don't know him. Let's just leave it at some guys are dogs and the rest are probably taken, ok? - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:38pm | ||
| Spring Rain User Info... | omg, I was talking about the girls, and I was talking about my boyfreind because you said you had the most trustworthy one in this city....I disagree cause mine is trustworthy too and would never cheat, all my sisters have trustworthy guys too......same with most of my freinds...i think at my age guys are not really dogs anymore!!!! ive never been cheated on! thank goodness but i know some girls that have,and some guys too, and I was saying about the girlfriends some guys have may not be trustworthy!!!!! it wasn't all about you...... - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:49pm | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | I don't know why I'm bothering to respond again.... I was refering to this : "! oh yeah and Dumpstermesh are you not worried about your new boyfriends platonic girlfreinds? you said he even slept with one of them back in the day? ... ... she would not have access if that were me...i know how some girls can be...they stay attached and watch there "guy freinds" go through many different girlfriends while they are there to "comfort" them when each relationship ends!......" that is where the insinuation was. I don't think that everything in your post is about me. And I NEVER said that your guy wasn't trustworthy I'm just making the claim that mine is the "most trustworthy guy in town". Quit taking what I say and making it sound like I am accusing you of shit. eg :"settle down.....I wasn't calling you a jealous freak!...." There, now I am upset with you. Take the time to fully read a post before you respond. - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:21pm | ||
| Shaggy User Info... | Get used to it d. Someone's shown on a few occasions she has serious insecurity issues... - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:10am | ||
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| _Griphin_ User Info... | Friendships are just that, friends. Course, if my female friend said she wanted to sleep with me and showed her breasteseseseseseses I wouldn't say no. - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 1:32am | ||
| Lucius User Info... | Fight fight fight fight! Cheers, Lucius - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 7:37am Edited: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 7:40am | ||
| Dirk Diggler User Info... | Dumpstergirl? true insecurity lies in the one who can't get over her ex Platonic my ass!! My ex was spending more time with a "platonic" girlfriend than me for quite a while and when I would ask him about her and whether he had feelings for her he would tell me that she was "like a sister" to him and that nothing was going on. He also assured me that I was the best thing ever and "why would I ever cheat on you?". The story ends with him breaking up with me and promptly making her his gf. Actually a few of his friends filled me in on the truth. He had been dating her for a while. He denies it (he doesn't want her to know I guess) and she supports his claims. i'm glad your not my ex, cause if you were flappin at the gums about me on the internet like that, ide have one of my "platonic" girlfriends bitch slap yo ass! get over it! if you have a new guy? how does he feel about you ranting about your ex? I said "ask me about my wiener" hey Spring Rain shut up and show me your tits! - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 7:50am | ||
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| _Griphin_ User Info... | I hate T-Shirts like that, cause that's what I end up looking at trying to read the shirt. - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:09am | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | Oh Dirk, You don't know me *insert finger shake* I AM over the ex. But I'm very scorpio and don't exactly forgive or forget. I like to publicly embarass him as much as possible considering how embarassed I was to learn of the cheating. Yes, my new guy is great. I love him to itty, bitty peices. I'm even having his baby. He almost didn't pursue me once he found out who the ex was because he thought that there must be something wrong with me to have been with him as long as I was. Glad he went for it anyways. I await the "bitch slap". - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:27am | ||
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| trevor corey User Info... | You should be carefull when telling Dirk aka "Willem", to "insert finger" - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:37am | ||
| metalqueen User Info... | I hate to say it Dumpsters a.k.a. Tereasa..but Brian does not give a shit.and you are NOT embarassing him at all,infact he thinks its a cry out for (everyone feal sorry for me)Yah alot of people have been cheated on and I dont wish that upon anyone...it really sucks ive been there, but obviously there was some mixed stories told on both ends...and you know what Im talking about....Its been over a year now...your prego so be happy with your awesome man you speak of and let shit go cause no one cares! - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:08pm | ||
| metalqueen User Info... | One who cheats is obviously not in love,not happy and doesnt care about their spouse...that goes for male and females.I would rant about my ex,buts thats too immature and a waste of time considering its in the PAST! - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 1:17pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Being "in love" never stopped me from cheating, in the past of course, I wouldn't cheat now. Hate to say it ladies, but most men are only as loyal as their opportuinities. - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 1:52pm | ||
| Tyler User Info... | most of my friends are girls. most of my friendships with girls have started out as attractions. often the attraction fades but the fun personality lingers, turning the situation into a friendship. I am only interested in one girl right now and that is the honest truth. Cheating is horrible. oh, I should add that in every single circumstance where a guy has a "female best friend" or a girl has a "guy best friend", there have been more-than-friends feelings, so I don't trust situations like that. - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 4:06pm Edited: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 4:08pm | ||
| Jesspycho User Info... | I have lots of guy friends. Some of my best friends are guys. Sometimes they started as hookups and sometimes not. But the thought of sleeping with any of them kinda grosses me out. I know to many secrets about them. haha. - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 4:20pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Ja.... I wish... in the case of her, I'd look at her face first, actually. What a cutie! Not true metalqueen, in my last relationship I found out that she was married, and I felt like a complete shit, so I split up with her. It was fun, but my conscious wouldn't let me continue with the relationship. And she blamed me for cheating on her? - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 5:25pm Edited: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 5:28pm | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | Well, I guess you told me Tanya. I'm going to go cry now. - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 5:41pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Awwwwwww.....I would totally send you some flowers to stop the tears.....but my wife and your boyfriend wouldn't like that.........even though we are "platonic"....... - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 6:22pm Edited: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 6:23pm | ||
| Lucius User Info... | Come on guys, stop using real names. We have a strict moniker only policy here. Gees. Cheers, Lucius I mean bob. Cheers, Bob - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 6:48pm | ||
| Danielle User Info... | Hmmmmm...so I guess the general consensus is that it is possible for there to be NO SEXUAL ATTRACTION whatsoever on the part of the guy but highly unlikely. Or at least that is what I am gleaning from the responses here. We all want to believe people we care about when they say "so-and-so" is "just a friend". However when they never want you to meet "so-and-so" and they like to have "so-and-so" sleep over night sometimes and tell you that they crash on the couch while "so-and-so" takes the bed,etc. It gets a little difficult to swallow no matter how much you like them and want to believe them. Personally I have always had the same experience as Metalqueen with guy friends, I may only consider them friends but they often hit on me and hope that maybe someday I'll give in. - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 9:46pm | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | I like flowers....what they don't know won't hurt them right???? - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:22pm | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | My best female friend and I have never had any sexual feelings for eachother - just genuine friends. So it is possible! - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:28pm | ||
| Danielle User Info... | I like flowers.......I don't get that. - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:44pm | ||
| Sati User Info... | A while ago I learned of the term "emotional infidelity" and it really struck a chord. Now I'm much more careful, respectful & understanding of those girls who give you the evil eye, even when its obvious you won't go any further than simply talking with their guys. To females especially, that emotional betrayal can be even more harsh than the physical. But both are tied for the worst pain I've ever felt - worse than people dying. I could never be a part of inflicting that on another woman. Apart from that I wouldn't want to be subjected to the type of wrath that you risk even being thought about you. Harsh is way too small a word. - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:51pm Edited: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:55pm | ||
| Tyler User Info... | shawn: that's cause girls who are into metal are ugly. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH. - Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:08am | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | Don't worry Danielle, I was talking to Trevor. Ya Sati, I think I know what you mean. I would probably be more upset with a girl who was trying to steal my guy "emotionally". It's hard to explain but I had an expereince with that with my first husband. His best female friend suddenly decided to try to compete with me for his affection. It was really hard on me. boo hooo...poor little me...where are my flowers Trevor? - Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:20am | ||
| Sati User Info... | Yeah, when I learned that term I remembered my ex b/f hinting that I'd cheated first, and when I disagreed saying that I didn't screw anyone (like he finally did), he said "well, people are different". Now I realize how bad he hurt because I was getting so close to my male friends and that I had in effect "cheated". I can't deny it. I can also see now that they were actually giving me something really important that he wasn't at the time. p.s. GIVE US OUR DAMN FLOWERS NOW! - Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:41am Edited: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:42am | ||
| Danielle User Info... | Well I have always taken the phylosophy that a girl can't "steal" your guy if he is truly yours. I would never blame a girl for anything because I figure if I am getting shafted then she probably is too. If I believe the bullshit then it is my own fault for being a sucker. Like the saying goes, fool me once shame on you, fool my twice, shame on me. Fool me a dozen times....I'm an idiot. I used to always think, you can't con a con, but I guess theres a first time for everying. - Fri, 27 Apr 2007 1:50am | ||
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| Danielle User Info... | Thx for the rose. - Fri, 27 Apr 2007 7:48am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | soooo.....wanna go to the movies? - Fri, 27 Apr 2007 1:50pm | ||
| Dirk Diggler User Info... | I want to fuck most of my female friends,why not,if there into it sure,not if they or I are with someone though. And Dumpster? "I AM over the ex. But I'm very scorpio and don't exactly forgive or forget. I like to publicly embarass him as much as possible considering how embarassed I was " I fucking hate it when women use thier astrological sign as an excuse for thier behavior, you sound like a complete fucking psycho, and that has little or nothing to do with the month in which you were born! get a clue woman , you are making yourself look really stupid. there you've been BITCH SLAPPED........ - Fri, 27 Apr 2007 2:08pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... |  ....about the flowers......I'm down in L.A. for the game, I had to get my people to deal on the flowers.......they are probably in the casino.....I guess if I want something done right, I have to do it myself......I'll get the pilot to divert to Egypt tonight on the way home so I can grab you a purple Cairo rose........Is purple an okay colour for platonic? I'll get one for you too Sati ....and to Danielle....I have never been dumped for infidelity......and I didn't date fools or idiots.......my list includes a doctor, a university professor, a cop, an assistant MLA, etc.......ended up married to a ballerina, beauty and grace rules intellect... - Fri, 27 Apr 2007 3:25pm Edited: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 3:33pm | ||
| Spring got you Sprung! User Info... | Do I get a rose?......... Iv'e been a very good girl! oh yeah and "Bob", my name is not really Spring..... its dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot or "aka".......... - Fri, 27 Apr 2007 4:16pm Edited: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 4:28pm | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | Wow Dirk sounds like you're the one who needs to get over it. I decided to post my opinion on platonic friendships and I'm getting jumped on (mind you only by people who are friends with my ex or his lady). All I have to say is nanananapoopoo. I couldn't care less about your opinions of me. I am a psycho, so back off bitch. - Fri, 27 Apr 2007 6:06pm | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | Hey Trevor. Have fun in L.A. Call me when you get back and we can arrange some kind of dinner or something. I think a purple rose is all about your deep rooted passion for me so be careful with that one. Yellow is the only way to go with a platonic rose. - Fri, 27 Apr 2007 6:11pm | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | she's not into metal jackass - Fri, 27 Apr 2007 7:49pm | ||
| Danielle User Info... | trevor corey: who said anything about being dumped? The only dumping on my horizon is me dumping "teddy bear" cuz he wants to have it both ways. Wants me but also wants to spend an inordinate amount of time with all his female "friends". I'm not the jealous type but everyone has their limits. Interesting how you categorize your ex's in terms of their livlihood/professions. Have you appended that list to your curriculum vitae as if it somehow bolsters your own credentials? No bar maids for you I bet. Speaking of credentials, you should ask ole Stan baby about his........cheers - Sat, 28 Apr 2007 1:45am | ||
| Danielle User Info... | oh ya...Dirk D...I like the candidness!! That you would fuck all your female friends if there were no 3rd parties involved. Hell why not? I have no male friends that I would fuck no matter how many mango marguaritas. If I wanted to fuck a guy he wouldn't be my friend he would be my boyfriend, lover, prey, etc. But conversely, I know that each and every one of them would be all over it if I changed my mind. BTW Have I asked you yet about your wiener? - Sat, 28 Apr 2007 1:56am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | You said a person would have to be stupid or an idiot to stay with a cheater. I am saying that in my past I had many intelligent girlfriends who stayed with me after I cheated. I listed some of them by profession only to prove they weren't stupid people. Stan who? Edit; There has been "barmaids" too, I even had a whole tray of drinks thrown at me once. - Sat, 28 Apr 2007 2:33am Edited: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 2:37am | ||
| Andrew User Info... | lol@ all of the fighting..geeez....~hides~ - Sat, 28 Apr 2007 2:43am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | :-) - Sat, 28 Apr 2007 2:47am | ||
| Spring got you Sprung! User Info... | sooooo much to say!...what’s new lol... I should practice my Legal Terminology for school on here so, Without Prejudice, There are lots of people who stay with cheating spouces! and can actually forgive them I however would not forgive if it ever happened to me and I would break up and move on! even though I know it would be hard for some people, I honestly feel that some people stay with a cheating spouce because they don't want the other woman/man to win? i don't know,,,,,just my opinion... ....Although I have met my soulmate and would never be betreyed by this man:)...so I feel safe.... and with my first name and his last name its meant to be!!! it's like an advertising..... The new fresh scent from Vagisil, Spring Forrest like walking though a forest in the gentle rain of springtime!!! knowing how to make fun of yourself .....priceless..... - Sat, 28 Apr 2007 8:42am Edited: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 8:45am | ||
| Laprider User Info... | AS for the original question...a lot of my best friends are women, and alot of them are old girlfriends. I value my female relationships as I am a single dad so thats my scene. At this point in my life I value their friendship and input as parents more then the urge to jump their bones. Last night a friend was visiting form Van without her Kid, we had a nice dinner, all that, yes we could have slept with each other, but that would just complicate a perfectly good situation. You weigh the outcome of things I guess. - Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:21pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | .................Is that the "feminine wash" or the "creme for painful burning"? ........ - Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:53pm | ||
| Spring got you Sprung! User Info... | I guess I should have used the air Freshener one! A new scent from Glade...... Spring Forrest, like walking through pine tree's on a hot Monday... lol......ewe to the burning sensation Trevor Cory! - Sat, 28 Apr 2007 2:02pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | so is anybody going to go to the fucking movies with me or what? - Sat, 28 Apr 2007 2:06pm | ||
| Spring got you Sprung! User Info... | um, I said i'd go!..i even have coupons enough for trevor corey too! lets tripple date like platonic freinds!.........its funny how we drag these posts way off topic!...sorry Danielle!...lol.. here i am talking about feminine wash, air fresheners and movie coupons!....... - Sat, 28 Apr 2007 2:20pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | ....Danielle needs to chill out ,"dump" teddy bear and get with Griphin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=387ZDGSKVSg IMO - Sat, 28 Apr 2007 2:45pm Edited: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 2:51pm | ||
| Danielle User Info... | trevor corey: I guess I meant to say one is “stupid” to believe a myriad of stories/lies/excuses all in the name of wanting to give the benefit of the doubt when it’s obvious to everyone else and their dog that the persons more than likely fuckin the brainz outta all the “friends” he spends time with. Stories such as: “we sleep together but don’t have sex”, which later turned into “I sleep on the couch and give so-and-so the bed” or “yeah she stayed the night but she had kid/friend/nieces/nephews with her so she slept in the living room”. One of the best ones was when he called me to let me know that one of the “friends” was visiting and had drank too much to drive so he was going to walk her to her parents house but she was going to leave her vehicle at his house, yada, yada. (I am assuming this was in his mind a preventive measure should I happen to drive by in the middle of the night) etc. If your bf/gf cheats on you and you can get over it given the relationship is worth it, then there is nothing stupid about that. It doesn’t take intelligence to forgive someone. Stan. As in Mr. P. You refer to him in a couple of posts I’ve read. In particular the one in “Defend yourself against cops” Ask him how he got his black belt. Not that I am defending this “Alex” person in any way. This guy is probably trying out some marketing technique that he learned from attending a seminar in Colorado on “networking-marketing and pyramid scheming” etc. And yes I know he (Stan that is) is a world champion kick boxer but martial arts (before it became a modern day pre-school/means to weight loss/self-defense free for all) was not only a form of combat but was also a movement towards discipline, self-control and spirituality. [off the record and not specifically naming names but I don’t think someone who was given a black belt without being tested, and has a history of anger management issues should be referred to as Sensei] However this is just my opinion....... Andrew: fightings fun!!!!! Well...this kind anyway. - Sun, 29 Apr 2007 9:59pm | ||
| Danielle User Info... | Spring: you crack me up! Ok, here’s a legal idea for you: The balance of probabilities. If there was overwhelming evidence leading you to believe that your boyfriend was cheating on you but his testimony as to his innocence was more often convincing than not, however your fellow jurors were eager to render a decision of guilty and were just waiting for you to follow their lead, what would you do? Now that all is said and done and I don’t give a rat’s ass, I am simply attempting to learn from the experience and am seriously questioning my usual rational judgment in this instance because for over a year I swallowed all that bullshit (or lived in denial), when prior to that I could have been referred to as the cynic extra ordinaire in matters of the heart. So that is why I started this thread to try to clear in my mind whether or not I am just a sucker for the lubricious player and accept a lower GPA on my transcript from the School of Life. Or.....move on, content with the knowledge that when I took my experimental leap of faith in believing all the sweet and seduction and tall tales that brought me to that steep ledge that my choices weren’t completely and totally naive and misguided. Thanks for all the great responses! - Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:01pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Griphin wouldn't cheat on you. - Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:15pm | ||
| Spring got you Sprung! User Info... | I don't think your nieve, we all would like to believe that the person we are in love with and who loves us, would be honest! I was a cheater in the past I wouldn't do it now...but I did it because I wasn't happy, and it was easier than breaking up my family.....it was exciting,but the overwhelming guilt out weighs the excitment!...I had to break up with him, because I couldn't stand the guilt anymore, I learned my lesson, but being a cheater in the past, now i know how easy it is to cover it up and make people believe your lies...... - Mon, 30 Apr 2007 8:16am Edited: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:18pm | ||
| Destroy_The_Flesh User Info... | Plutonic friends eh.....the gravitational pull of my dick seems to always change that arrangement - Tue, 1 May 2007 11:02am | ||
| Mr chimp User Info... | interesting thread for me as I recently studied psychology at UBC and part of the course focused on relationships. Males ten to be less emotionally aware or needing than females and this can cause all kinds of problems when it comes to platonic friendships. Men are more likely to see female friends like they see their male friends but without the stigma of sexual preference, they could possibly take the friendship to another level, but if it doesnt happen, its not a big deal. Females on the other hand are more emotionally needing, and the male friend is often filling emotional needs that the boyfriend or husband isnt. Unlike the man who could easily have a one night stand with the female friend and still look at her the same way the next week, as a friend, the female isn't as capable of being that emotionally detatched. (unfortunately these very issues often cause rifts in otherwise strong relationships) However, as a result you more often see females leaving their spouse or boyfriend for another man and relationship, as opposed to men who are more likely to take advantage of their new found single status to 'get around' a bit. Not saying it doesnt happen the other way (as is evident in some of the above posts) but that it is more likely to happen that way. Think of how many relationships you've been in or seen, where the female is almost immediately hitched with another man, but the male stays single. Some females go through their whole lives leaving one guy for another. This also has to do with Self Esteem issues which can effect both parties. However since self esteem is also very driven by overall emotional status, the female often eliminates her feelings of low self esteem by hiding it with the good emotions of a new relationship, whereas for a man he hides it by acting strong no matter how much pain he may feel from the breakup, and by surrounding himself with female friends who he could possibly hookup with in the future, he is confronting potential emotional issues in advance, just in case. Sort of like a bull moose who has a harem but may only mate with one cow. Genrally women show their low self esteem more than men, and obviously most women can get a new guy much easier than a guy can get a new woman. But because a male isnt subconciously planning ahead in relationships he wont see his 'female friends' as the same threat his partner at the time sees them as. The female sees her man's female friends as a threat, because she is closer to her emotional needs, combined with the typical low self esteem issues of many young women in our society, and she being more emotionally driven cant understand that he would have these friends 'platonically' because in her mind she is always subconciously on the lookout for an 'emotional' replacement to fill the void left by a breakup. Thus why more women leave their guy for another guy than men do to women. Unfortunately this causes all sorts of other issues, especially on the social level, and the male is often left feeling empty and emotionless, which is why its easier for him to 'bang a friend' and still see her as 'only a friend' but when a woman 'bangs a friend' that friend becomes the next boyfriend. ah yes, the human mind is a wonder! - Tue, 1 May 2007 1:49pm Edited: Tue, 1 May 2007 2:23pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | .....hmmmmm....is that why there is more than one model in a Playboy mag? ....if Haile Barry and Jennifer Aniston can't keep a man loyal, then what hope do women like Danielle and Sprocket have? - Tue, 1 May 2007 2:35pm Edited: Tue, 1 May 2007 2:38pm | ||
| Cool Hand Luke Mister BEAUMONT User Info... | you can take the group out of the girl but never the groupee - Tue, 1 May 2007 3:12pm | ||
| Spring got you Sprung! User Info... | i'm confused about the groupie thing, and Trevor Corey, what did I do to you to deserve such an insult? I can keep a man Loyal! , never been cheated on! and never will!....... - Tue, 1 May 2007 6:09pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | Sooo...we could see that new sequel to 28 days later I suppose...... - Tue, 1 May 2007 8:35pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | ....sorry Sprocket....I didn't mean to insult you......you're cute, but you ain't no Haile Barry thats all....... - Tue, 1 May 2007 9:31pm | ||
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| Sati User Info... | I'm about moving the last of my stuff out of my place tonight and have no idea if i'll have an internet connection across the street... but I just want to say, damn my friends are hot. btw, trevor corey, tsk tsk tsk! - Tue, 1 May 2007 10:08pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | tsk tsk tsk? - Tue, 1 May 2007 10:48pm | ||
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| lonemonk User Info... | No doubt about it, Johnny is a sexy mofo. - Wed, 2 May 2007 6:11pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | He'd probably go to movies with me. - Wed, 2 May 2007 7:17pm | ||
| Jesspycho User Info... | Ill go to a movie with you Ross but you have to sit on the other side of the theatre and walk about 14 paces behind me. Also you have to wear a fake moustache and dark sunglasses. Are we on? - Wed, 2 May 2007 7:23pm | ||
| alcoholly User Info... | you'll have to supply a new fake moustache because his old one is "worn out"................. - Fri, 4 May 2007 11:43am Edited: Fri, 4 May 2007 11:43am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | I like movies. - Fri, 4 May 2007 3:01pm | ||
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| Sprizzle Ma NIzzle User Info... | I love gay porn its hot! - Sun, 6 May 2007 8:41am | ||
| Haden User Info... | Mr. Chimp. It's interesting in your education that it was more prevelant that the woman is more likely to go from one man to the next and the man is more likely to stay single. Within the people I know, the majority of the men are serial monogomists and go from woman to woman with little to no time being single and the women spend plenty of time inbetween their relationships with men. I've actually talked to a few people about it and it doesn't seem to be within the people I know. - Sun, 6 May 2007 1:49pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | Everyone should just go abstinent. - Mon, 7 May 2007 12:33pm | ||
| Bounce User Info... | No thank you…. lol..... - Mon, 7 May 2007 4:55pm | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | Yes Nik, we should all be more like you. - Wed, 9 May 2007 1:50pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Abstinence werks!!! - Wed, 9 May 2007 6:29pm | ||
| Shaggy User Info... | The human animal was never meant to be monogamous. One of the similarities we still share with animals. Our purpose is to spread our genes as many times as possible, which has nothing to do with monogamy. This goes for both men and women. Monogamy has only been around as long as organised religion, which speaks volumes. - Wed, 9 May 2007 6:31pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | In some areas of the world as many as 40% of people think their father is someone who isn't. Around here, it's more like 15%. - Wed, 9 May 2007 9:00pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Hey my father is dead!!! - Wed, 9 May 2007 11:52pm | ||
| Andrew User Info... | Call m eold fashioned but wouldnt it help the human race just a wee bit if we stopped slutting around? Maybe a little less cervical cancer and herpes spread. not to mention HIV and HEP C? Thats pretty muhc my only logic for manogamy. But im a bit of a hypocondriac ;) - Wed, 9 May 2007 11:56pm | ||
| Danielle User Info... | What areas of the world would those be? Where did you happen upon such statistics? Was there a reported standard of error submitted with this study? As this type of information can only be gathered through polls/questionnaires the standard deviation could be massive. Not only that but if it is the individuals themselves being polled, how was it determined that 40% of them in fact had fathers who were not the fathers they thought they had? Did some experimental group go around polling and then administering DNA tests to prove the paternity of a large section of population groups and compare that to the answers given? Or did they poll the individuals and then poll their mothers and 40% of the mothers they polled actaully confessed to withholding the true paternight of their children. Infidelity is limited to modern prosperous nations as a means to alleviate boredom. And even at that it is way more acceptable for the male to engage in adultery than the female. I don’t think women of most African (or other 3rd world or developing nations) are out there lookin for a booty call in-between slaving in the rice fields or scrounging for food and water to feed their starving children. In some countries women are burned to death for infidelity, or in others they are at least shunned, excommunicated or otherwise punished. If these stats that you quote are nothing more than you personal opinion Mr. Corey then you should say so. - Thu, 10 May 2007 12:19am | ||
| Danielle User Info... | oops, some spelling errors there. I expect to be duly reprimanded for that. Probably by someone who didn't understand the subject matter. oops again, I have had a bit of a nasty streek these last few days, oh well........ - Thu, 10 May 2007 12:25am | ||
| Danielle User Info... | Ross Bay would be too scared to go to the movies with me! - Thu, 10 May 2007 12:28am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | I couldn't find the original article. It was on MSN homepage recently. The 40% rates were in poor urban America. Where did you get Africa from? http://jech.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/59/9/749 - Thu, 10 May 2007 1:46am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | """""Infidelity is limited to modern prosperous nations as a means to alleviate boredom. And even at that it is way more acceptable for the male to engage in adultery than the female. I don’t think women of most African (or other 3rd world or developing nations) are out there lookin for a booty call in-between slaving in the rice fields or scrounging for food and water to feed their starving children. In some countries women are burned to death for infidelity, or in others they are at least shunned, excommunicated or otherwise punished.""""" - melodrama much. Your the one who sounds in the need of a "booty call" -excerpt from article below- " What this does mean however is that out of all of the men who participate in paternity tests, 27 percent are not the father" http://www.ideamarketers.com/?Paternity_Establishment_How_it_affects_you_and_your_family&articleid=176105 - Thu, 10 May 2007 1:49am Edited: Thu, 10 May 2007 2:00am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... |  .....wanna wrestle? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD78-CCPhAQ&mode=related&search= - Thu, 10 May 2007 2:08am Edited: Thu, 10 May 2007 3:12am | ||
| Danielle User Info... | Mr. Corey: I so love a good sparring partner....... p.s.My "melodrama" is for entertainment purposes only - I don't take myself (or very much in life) that seriously. p.p.s. Re: booty call - I have plenty of options when the mood strikes me. But you could be right! - Thu, 10 May 2007 5:02am | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Danielle, do you ever read your E-Mail?!? Weren't we supposed to go fer coffee, or did I scare you?!? - Thu, 10 May 2007 11:25am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q1tzp4jehA .....about the melodrama, I understand. You just need a good rodgering, from someone you trust. - Thu, 10 May 2007 12:09pm Edited: Thu, 10 May 2007 1:39pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | sooooo.....movies? - Thu, 10 May 2007 3:14pm | ||
| Bounce User Info... | Andrew its nice to know that your not a slut! I agree, I would hate to be single and sleeping around still....lol....there are so many people out there with STD's that don't know it or just don't care to tell people.....its scary really.....one orgasm...or if your a girl...one possible orgasm is just not worth getting herpes from some one night stand!!! gross......or Aids... you can never be too carefull!......i'm quite content with manogomy..... and yes trevor Corey I keep my man loyal so no worries in that department!!!!...lol.....i'm hotter than Jennifer Anistion, she looks like a man up close......lol..... - Thu, 10 May 2007 8:03pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Sure she does. http://www.filecabi.net/video/jennifer-aniston-topless.html - Thu, 10 May 2007 8:22pm | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | OMG! I've been skinny but I don't think my ribs have ever been THAT visable. Creepy. - Thu, 10 May 2007 8:43pm | ||
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| Shaggy User Info... | 'i'm hotter than Jennifer Anistion' Must be nice to live in a fantasy world. - Thu, 10 May 2007 10:15pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | Yes. Yes, it is. - Fri, 11 May 2007 4:15am | ||
| Danielle User Info... | Beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's trash is another man's treasure, etc. etc. - Fri, 11 May 2007 1:01pm | ||
| Swingin' Joe User Info... | Butter face? - Fri, 11 May 2007 1:55pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | .....hmmmmm...she is showing a bit o rib.....funny how I could look right at sopmething and not even see it.......everything else looks to proportion........as for Danielle, is that an "actual photo"? - Fri, 11 May 2007 2:50pm Edited: Fri, 11 May 2007 3:19pm | ||
| Bounce User Info... | I wrote that just for you Shaggy! I knew you would come back with some sort of insult!!!.......I guess people who know me might think i'm pretty hot...I do....lol ....but to each thier own ...right.......some people dont find Jennifer Aniston atractive I'm sure! sorry for being over confident in myself....lol..... am I supposed to just sit at home and think i'm ugly? no thanks.... I'm sure your really attractive though right? .....lol......hahahahaha......all in good fun! Take a joke...asshole.......... - Fri, 11 May 2007 4:53pm Edited: Fri, 11 May 2007 4:56pm | ||
| Shaggy User Info... | There's more than a few posts on these boards that shows you have self-esteem issues. Good attempt at a cover up/waffle. I seriously doubt the majority of people care that you can 'keep your man'. And I never said I looked better than Brad Pitt now did I? Although I've been with my better half going on 19yrs, so I must have something going for me. *shrug* Keep overcompensating, you just make yourself look like a git. - Fri, 11 May 2007 6:35pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | I didn't think the attempt was very "good". Poor girl. - Fri, 11 May 2007 9:22pm | ||
| Bounce User Info... | yep you got me...lol......too funny! 19 years eh, you would think at 40+ years old you would have better things to do than come onto a message board target a young girl who has what your expertsise in Psychology as "self esteem issues"....but I guess not, I only retaliate to your comments cause I know you'll keep coming back for more, and i'm sure you do the same, anything I write on here is for pure entertainment value, so take it however you want........I really don't care......those who know me , know me well....you know the rest of the saying.....so goodbye everyone..its been fun but i'm done with this hole Live Vic thing...same lame topics...same losers who critisize your every move.......I have good freinds on here that I know in real life ....not afraid to use thier real names....you hide behind your computer screen like its a shield! gives you the right to insult people....keep it up you look like an asshole.. who has nothing better to do than follow people so closely that you make assumptions about thier personalities....when really you know nothing about them...... see you at the shows....buh bye........ and go ahead...come back with a lame comeback!!!!! here i'll do it for you Glad she's gone......and I really didn't have to follow that close! - Sat, 12 May 2007 1:19am Edited: Sat, 12 May 2007 1:32am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | ...did you spell "hole" on purpose? ...I think you did...this thread has gone into a bit of a hole......good times, good times!!! - Sat, 12 May 2007 1:38am | ||
| Dirk Diggler User Info... | holy shyte, glad she s gone I'll make an "assumption" about Shaggy,nice spelling by the way! I would have to say Shaggy is either a 17 year old girl or a fat balding middle aged loser who's "better half" AKA husband must hate him after 19 years and ASK ME ABOUT MY WIENER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Sat, 12 May 2007 1:40am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... |  I wish I had something better to do. - Sat, 12 May 2007 1:45am | ||
| Dirk Diggler User Info... | nice dude! me too i'm such a loser what the fuck is that crack ho doing with my mother fuckin wiener? - Sat, 12 May 2007 1:58am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Ok. I'll bite. Tell us about your weiner. Is it detachable? Sprocket is so cute. I think if I was Shaggy I'd have to kill myself after such a tongue lashing. - Sat, 12 May 2007 2:14am | ||
| Shaggy User Info... | I'll be sure to lay down in a warm tub of water tonight, slit my wrists and down a bottle of some type of scrip with a gin chaser. *roll eyes* - Sat, 12 May 2007 9:47am | ||
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| Sati User Info... | mmmmm... well if the girl has self-esteem issues (in your opinion), isn't that all the more reason to let her have her day thinking she's hot? Maybe this just hits too close to home, but I think if a girl's seriously able to think she's got something going on, there's a good chance it won't last too long. With all the comparisons to societal standards of "perfection" and media crap, not to mention the self-sabotage we do to ourselves, to piss all over a woman who's finally able to be happy with herself as is, is just cruel. And whats the point? It doesn't help anyone and she's not hurting anyone else. People may think they're having an easy time and constantly full of themselves, because when you're happy it looks effortless, but I'm pretty sure thats rarely the case. just my 2 pennies and what was the topic again? I think I try to have platonic friendships with men in an effort to get them to talk more honestly than they would if we were messing around. Guys can't talk when all the blood's rushing to their nu nu's. Sad but true. - Sat, 12 May 2007 1:42pm Edited: Sat, 12 May 2007 1:45pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... |  ....but seriously, if this guy doesn't have any self esteem problems then pretty ladies like Sati and Sprocket shouldn't have anything to worry about. - Sat, 12 May 2007 2:00pm Edited: Sat, 12 May 2007 2:08pm | ||
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| lonemonk User Info... | I just knew this thread was going to be nothing but trouble. Notice how I wisely avoided adding *anything* to it, umm Aww Fuck! . - Sat, 12 May 2007 4:49pm Edited: Sat, 12 May 2007 4:51pm | ||
| Shaggy User Info... | To quote SNFU... "He's not getting older... He's getting bitter..." - Sat, 12 May 2007 5:16pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Andrew- Don't listen to them. Get as much as you can, while you can. Try to be nice about it, and wear rubbers, but yeah. - Sat, 12 May 2007 8:40pm | ||
| Danielle User Info... | Good Grief! You guys have been up to some silly shit since I've been asleep. Yes Trevor that's an actual photo - of myself. And Spring you are gorgeous and don't ever think otherwise. Also, don't all men have detachable weiners????? hahahahahaha. Goddamn Griphin....are we goin for coffee or not???? Next thing we'll be goin for Geritol. Are you goin to Logan's on Friday? Oh yeah, I might get in shit if I go there.....oh well... too F**ing bad! - Wed, 16 May 2007 3:17pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | I wondered when you were gonna re-appear. I can go for coffee anytime, didn't you read my E-Mail?!? - Wed, 16 May 2007 7:23pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | ..to Danielle- wawa wiwa... ....to Griph- high five!... - Thu, 17 May 2007 1:14am Edited: Thu, 17 May 2007 1:15am | ||
| Danielle User Info... | Oh yeah - Mr. Chimp re: your post of May 1..... I hope you majored in something other than psych...not intending to offend or anything but your comments were contradictory and appear to be opinion based only. Did you get your info from conclusions made from reliable research data? Although you do not quote any stats, danger danger...... (see my post of May 10 to Trevor Corey) I would have to agree with Haden’s comments on May 6th that men require a constant “mate” far more than women. If studies exist were they conducted on a broad cross range of subjects incorporating variables such as, religion, culture socio-economic status, family background, education levels, etc. etc.? First you say men are less emotionally needy and then later you say that a man will hide his emotions behind a bevy of female friends. For most of the women I know, the guy friends that they have are FRIENDS pure and simple. They wouldn’t do the nasty with them in any event cuz it would be like screwin your brother. If the potential is there for a “one night stand” then they are not platonic friends. If a guy bangs one of his “friends”, does she just go back to being “my buddy Sal” after the “banging”? I think all your common sense is getting tangled up in text book blither. I have read some very reliable studies that indicate in aging population at least, single men have a poorer quality of life than single women. i.e. Single women have been shown to live longer and have better health and quality of life in the golden years than single men. And if what your saying is in fact true then saying that women feel more threatened by their mate’s female friends would not be based on their own self esteem issues it would be based on the fact that men will fuck their opposite sex friends and women won’t. The reason I started this post is because I don’t believe that true platonic friendships can exist (or at least are extremely rare) and I wanted to see what other people thought, thinking that maybe I am too cynical and buddy there with all the girl “friends” may actually be sincere and genuine and not attempting to dissimulate his enterprise of bed buddies from me. However this same individual would turn into a mass of green jealous rage at the thought of me going out for a beer or something with a friend. So whose the one with the low self-esteem? I can honestly say that in my entire life, I have not/do not have any male friends (that I consider only a friend and would not be interested in screwin under any circumstances) that would not be all over it if I suddenly changed my mind and said “ok pal let’s give it a go”. The only ones that are still standing are the few who after many years accepted that “it ain’t gonna happen” and stuck around anyway and in the meantime went on with their lives. - Sat, 19 May 2007 6:49am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | oh yeah? show me yer tits then. - Sat, 19 May 2007 6:57am | ||
| Danielle User Info... | You show me yours first. - Sat, 19 May 2007 8:17am | ||
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| trevor corey User Info... |  That should be re-worded to, men require regular sex. ...and as far as married men living longer, that's because they get regular sex, meals, and sanitary bathrooms. ......EDIT: Opinion based^ - Sat, 19 May 2007 1:50pm Edited: Sat, 19 May 2007 2:35pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | Spring, put YOUR cans up here please. Thanks. - Sat, 19 May 2007 2:58pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | I like that animation! - Sat, 19 May 2007 5:21pm | ||
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| ROSS B AY User Info... | yeah I thought about that and I'm okay with it. Lets' go..... - Mon, 21 May 2007 6:45pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Danielle writes: > The reason I started this post is because I don’t believe that true platonic friendships can exist (or at least are extremely rare). When I'm in a friendship, that's what happens. If it gets serious you lose more "friends" that way. I mean jeez, if she wants more then a friendship, then be honest, don't think I'll clue in to what she actually wants. Jeez... :) - Mon, 21 May 2007 8:36pm Edited: Tue, 22 May 2007 1:57am | ||
| Danielle User Info... | Well.....”Griphin”..... you just made my point. In saying that a man and a woman who are friends can take that “friendship” to another level. So say you started seeing someone who had a lot of male friends, who she never wanted to introduce you to. And on the occasions that she wasn’t with you, she was always with one or some of her male friends. And if the relationship continued for some time, and you started to develop strong feelings for her, wouldn’t you at some point wonder what she was doing with all these guys that she went to great lengths to avoid the possibility of you ever meeting? Can a true platonic friendship ever “get serious”. More chance that it was in the past and has been reconfigured after both parties are over whatever physical attraction they had for the other person. Merriam-Webster defines platonic friendship as: “a close relationship between two persons in which sexual desire is nonexistent or has been suppressed or sublimated”. But say that one person has sexual desire for the other but it is not reciprocated. Then what is that? Anyone? - Tue, 22 May 2007 3:38am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Glutton for punishment. - Tue, 22 May 2007 3:10pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | See, I'm stupid and nieve, I obviously think that the relationship I'm in would be one without my partner cheating on me. BTW: I've been abstinent for too long. - Tue, 22 May 2007 4:32pm | ||
| Danielle User Info... | Just saw this on some website - What it really means when someone you are seeing/dating/interested dumps you but tells you that they still want to stay friends with you: It means; "I don't just want you to mourn the loss; I want to remind you of it every day. I want you to suffer. I want you to envy. I want you to die slowly, a bit at a time. And I want you to smile and thank me for it." I say: it could also mean the following: I still want you in my life for those days/nights when I am bored; I want to be single but still want to be able to boff you whenever I feel like it (and boff whoever else for that matter); It's all about me and I still want to hang out with you (and have sex if I feel like it) and don't give a shit how much it hurts you to have a relationship with me in that capacity no matter how many times you have told me that. http://www.joelogon.com/platonic/ - Thu, 14 Jun 2007 2:08am | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | People are still having seX!!! - Thu, 14 Jun 2007 2:10am | ||
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