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Anti-Depressants and the Average Joe
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| _Griphin_ User Info... | This is a general question to those taking anti-depressants. Did they actually work for you?!? And if so, how long did it take for them to work? Was there any side effects from the use of? I actually have some idea as to why I'm getting depressed, head injury + lack of diet + use of marijuana, though the last time I can also add a beer and a glass to it (I eat before I drink though). Though the downside to anti-depressants, your on them for the rest of your life (all my medication is covered by disability), and there's some nasty side effects. - Sun, 9 Apr 2006 10:15pm Edited: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 10:21pm | ||
| Jesspsycho User Info... | Try something natural first. 5HTP is good. Helps with stress, anxiety and depression. - Mon, 10 Apr 2006 2:10am Edited: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 2:11am | ||
| Pierce User Info... | I take 2 drugs. Clonazapan (valium family) and Paxil (antidepressant). I take these pills because i have a sleep disorder which prevents me from hitting R.E.M. sleep. It took about 3 years to diagnose me fully as a PARASOMNIAC. The Anti-depressant is used to offset the Depression caused by taking valium. The ONLY side effects i have sustained from paxil is a smaller appetite. The pills worked. I feel great now. I see a drastic improvement in my ability to giv er when i am fully "medicate"d. Thats what medicine is for after-all. To make you feel good. However, the side effects from coming off are HUGE. I figured i didnt need them so I stopped taking them. I actually passed out, and threw up in my office. Pretty nasty. Got really sick. Really dizzy. And thats just from waiting until Monday , over the weekend to get more pills. I ended up at VGH with an IV in my arm for 12 hours.Iif you think you are depressed, get diagnosed. Depression is nothing to be embarrassed about. Then if you need them, you take them. Last week i ran out of pills on Thursday, and figured i would try to go without for 2 days. On saturday i was at the Pharmacy, paying 109.08$ for 30 pills. I didnt have my health Card, but didnt give a shit. I got sick, so i paid the $$$$ and hopefully they will re-imburse me. Anti-depressants are only bad if you stop taking them. But thats what medicine is for.My question is"If i had to pay 109$ for 30 pills (month), thats 1300$ a year. My insurance covers about 2200$ a year in prescriptions. What about the low income people with "mental" illness who cannot obtain these drugs? Does our Government offer ALL drugs to low income, or just certain Necessity drugs?" Being insured since employed for 12 years, this weekend was the first time i ever paid for a pill, so i dont know anything about this stuff. I would say that mental illness is a major contributer to Poverty and Homelessness.I wish I was more aware of Depression when i was younger. Fuck was i ever nasty to my Ex who had to take drugs to stay happy. I am an idiot. - Mon, 10 Apr 2006 4:53pm Edited: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 5:10pm | ||
| Blah Blah User Info... | E-mail me if you want my opinion or to bitch. - Mon, 10 Apr 2006 5:38pm Edited: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 5:39pm | ||
| Shaggy User Info... | Low income people don't have to worry about necessary meds not being covered. They get plan G coverage, which is 100% coverage for any necessary meds they need. - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:53am Edited: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:55am | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Yes, apparently all my meds are covered, therefore my dosage of Zyban would be covered, but I've heard of nasty side effects people get when on them. I dunno, deal with a bit of the blahs, or deal with nasty side effects. The choices. I actually think the main reason was because of all the 'cid I did in my teenage life. I managed to dry up my level of Seratonin (sp?) (happy juice I call it), now if there was a way to replace the Seratonin in pill form, I'd totally look into it. See it's wierd, now I don't feel as bad as I did a few days ago, bizarre. Sorry for all who had to put up with my bullshit. - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 1:39am Edited: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 1:44am | ||
| Healer User Info... | You can always try putting Ernest Angely on t.v. on Sunday morning,(faith healer) he always says" If you got a retarded child or medical problem then just press up against the tee vee and i will heeeaall you through Jesus" then you send him all your money. When ever i throw my back out i put my ass on the tv, right at his face level. If nothing else you`ll have a good laugh. Or try St. Johns Wort its cheap at Wallmart. - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 6:02am Edited: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 6:09am | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | SSRI drugs such as the one you are describing have a different effect on different people. Some people experience very few side effects if any, and others find the effects a little strange. Ask the doc all the questions you can to ease your mind, and give them a try. Whatever happens, do not simply stop taking the drug suddenly and without the Doctors knowledge. Some side effects wait until the dosage is removed. Most of the people I know who've used Zyban (a couple were using it to stop smoking) considered the benefits to outweigh any side effects. Don't let depression go untreated. Apart from being dangerous, it sucks the fun out of things. There are other treatments out there, so if the first one doesn't do the trick, keep hounding the doc till you find something that does. Not everyone requires drugs to combat depression for the rest of their lives. Sometimes just a year or two. It depends. Diet and exercise are methods of rebalancing serotonin and other brain chemicals. - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 8:49am Edited: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 9:00am | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Apparently St. John's Wort is really dangerous to take, I took it before, the bonus is that your lucidity really gets better (I found this out when I was taking it). Yes lonemonk, I almost dropped VDRP thanx to the depression, and I stopped doing those things I enjoyed doing before. Diet is something I have to look into actually having (one meal per day just don't cut it). Perhaps the main reason I have these outburst is cause I need to get laid. :) - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:02pm Edited: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:17pm | ||
| littledina User Info... | hi there, i work at the rjh currently..have worked in a few physician's offices and clinics...anti-depressants are a huge contraversy...many different opinions out there, but for myself personally we've all had our depressive moments i think in our lifetime...must say that i have been very lucky to have a wonderful doc that i can communicate and she helped me greatly when i needed some help - i found that taking stjohn's wort worked for me...but i did see my doc regularly during that period and i did go for counselling, and this all helped...can you talk to your doc about your thoughts or would he/she refer you to someone that could help you? good luck... - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 4:32pm Edited: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 4:36pm | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | "Apparently St. John's Wort is really dangerous to take, " There are many medical studies posted on reputable sites that break down the pros/cons. Like all drugs have. I took it breifly in the winter to combat the blahs but I didn't take it long because I'm already very light sensitive and St. John's Wort can increase that sensitivity. It can also mess with oral contraceptives. - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 5:35pm Edited: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 5:46pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Mmmmm.... oral! - Tue, 11 Apr 2006 6:01pm Edited: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 6:01pm | ||
| Mi*coll* User Info... | As far as I know there was a proper study of St John's Wort that established that it has no effect. In my opinion SSRI's are a huge pile of crap perpetrated on us by the pharmaceutical companies. They may be useful for some people in some circumstances, but they are MASSIVELY over-prescribed and very addictive. My friend's mother actually died as a result of withdrawal from an anti-depressant. The addictiveness means that for what would be a six month bout of depression people become life-long slaves to the pharmaceutical companies, shelling out thousands of dollars and suffering through serious side-effects. This is somewhat similar to the scenario that many schizophrenics are in with antipsycotics: They have an episode of schizo (that if left untreated by drugs would last maybe a few years) and are prescribed really addictive antipsychotics which turn it into a life-long, chronic illness. If they ever try to get off the antipsychotics they go through a brutal withdrawal and immediately go back into an episode. In fact, most reported violent incidents involving schizos actually result from withdrawal from the meds not from the illness. People and the media tend to think of it as "Schizo Kills Family" instead of the more accurate "Drug-Withdrawing Man Kills Family". Third-world countries such as India generally have better mental health outcomes than we do because they don't use antipsychotics. Anyhow, as alwayws it's important weigh the options rationally: A bout of mental illness (be it depression or schizohprenia) or a life-long addiction. - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:36pm Edited: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:09pm | ||
| Ward Ensemble User Info... | regarding seratonin...Did i read that the seratonin in your body can 'dry up'? I know it can be depleted or 'crash' but thought the levels renewed themselves, like adrenaline or other glandular excretions. - Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:18pm Edited: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:21pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | I dunno, I think that's why people get depressed, cause there brains cannot reproduce the Seratonin, I mean if this wasn't the case I'd be happy happy, joy joy all the time. Heavy usage of psychadelics/psychotropics (I think) evaporates the level your brain deals with. Yes, just the thought of Anti-depressants freak me out, same with the use of Dilantin, but if they help me deal with the blahs, I should look into it at least. Yeah if I could find a way to replace the seratonin, I'd rather take that then a life full of anti-depressant, I really hate doing things I usually love to do. - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:19am Edited: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:24am | ||
| mica User Info... | My Mom has suffered from depression. She took anti-depressants for a quite a while, but eventually she got tired of what she described as "feeling like a zombie". She wasn't happy and she wasn't sad - just kind of "vanilla". So she spoke with her Dr. and stopped taking them. Then she looked into Ayurvedic medicine and it has really worked well for her. I believe it is the oldest known form of medical treatment in the world. It looks at (and requires you to change) many different factors of your day to day life. There is a Ayurvedic wellness center in town: http://www.tourismvictoria.com/Content/EN/417.asp?id=A0003806 Unfortunately, it is not cheap and it is not covered by MSP. It might be worth checking out though. Personally, I would recommend a small book called "The Greatest Salesman in the World". Obviously, I don't think it will cure depression, but I found it uplifting and there are some good principles and ideas in it that might help you help yourself. Good luck. - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 9:25am Edited: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 9:48am | ||
| denver User Info... | I agree Micoll. It seems like SSRI's etc work for some people, but depression for many people is related to diet, exercise, short-term circumstances etc, or just bad thinking patterns. I'm a little pissed off that at 16 the first thing my doctor did when I said I was depressed was put me on paxil. I've been off and on so many of those drugs and the side effects and withdrawals seem to have had permanently negative effects on me. None of them ever helped as much as two days with a good psychologist. There are so many different options for depression out there. I'm sure anti-depressants work for some people, but there is no doubt too many people are taking them. Pierce sleeplessness defintely sucks. Watch out for the benzos though they are addictive, easy to use recreationally too haha. - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 2:11pm Edited: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 3:02pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | I'd be happy finding Xanax tho', I mean how the hell do you get a prescription for them without red flags going up?!? - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 4:38pm Edited: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 4:39pm | ||
| Mi*coll* User Info... | It's interesting that you mention seratonin, Griphin, because it seems to me that the drug companies came up with the "seratonin theory of depression" post hoc after they developed the SSRIs. This is a very common pattern in the history of psychiatric pharmaceuticals: Someone comes up with a drug that seems to have an effect, and THEN the psychiactric establishment/pharmaceutical industry invents a theory of the underlying psychiactric condition that is consistent with the drug's mechanism. In this case, SSRIs were created and so people started to push the notion that low levels of seratonin are the cause of seratonin. Psychiatry is infamous for that kind of crap pseudo-science. If only it were so easy as seratonin! Depression is a very complex thing, and if neurotransmitters are in fact involved, probably a few more than one of the hundreds (if not thousands, millions? we don't know) are involved. Ya fucking think? I'd say if you're depressed, go for a run or play some basketball. Exercise is the best cure in my experience. - Thu, 13 Apr 2006 5:33pm Edited: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 5:52pm | ||
| KnifeGhost User Info... | I don't know if this applies in anyone's case here, but a generally thing to remember is that drugs are good at doing specific things, but can't do a goddamn thing about a lot of other shit. For example. If you're stressed because your girlfriend's getting too serious into drugs, or cause you've convinced yourself (with help from everyone else in your life) that you're a loser, or you feel like you can't do anything right, or whatever, drugs can't fix that. Drugs can't make shitty situations in your life go away, and they can't change the way you think. They _can_ change the levels of different chemicals in your brain, and sometimes people need that. But patterns of thinking and external stresses, drugs just make it worse. - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 5:00am Edited: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 5:03am | ||
| Pierce User Info... | "Drugs can't make shitty situations in your life go away, and they can't change the way you think." Again, another uneducated comment. Anti-Depressants DO help you gain control of your thoughts. Again, another idiot. - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 9:15am Edited: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 9:16am | ||
| Shaggy User Info... | Actually Pierce the only one who's coming off as an uneducated 'idiot' is you. Anti-depressants don't help everyone they're prescribed to. EST is still in use for this exact reason, and still considered by psychologists to be a viable alternative. Just because you've had positive results doesn't mean they're even remotely 100% effective. - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 9:37am Edited: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 9:54am | ||
| Inhalien User Info... | The doctors I've spoken to say EST is the LAST choice, when nothing else works. I've taken anti-depressants for 15 years because I simply cannot function without them. For me, the symptoms go far beyond just feeling sad and a little lazy. I also need to take 2 types as I stopped being able to sleep as well - after a couple months of 2 hours sleep per night, trust me, the body starts to break down. SSRI's have quite a long half-life too so you have to be careful when you stop taking them. You can feel just fine for 2 weeks then crash in a day or two. I try weaning myself of them every few years but my supply of positive neurons just isn't there, no synapse takes place and all I feel is sad and hopeless. If I have to take them to survive and function in this world, so be it. - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:09am Edited: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:16am | ||
| Pierce User Info... | "Actually Pierce the only one who's coming off as an uneducated 'idiot' is you. Anti-depressants don't help everyone they're prescribed to" He said that Drugs cannot change someone's thoughts. I know for a fact, they can and do for the majority of people who use them, ie. Me. 3 years of back and forth drugs to solve a medical issue i had. 9 years ago, my ex was on Anti-Depressants, and i was uneducated. I thought.."How can drugs change peoples problems, or how can they change someone's thoughts". Guess what? They do. Try taking LSD, and tell me your thoughts aren't affected. LSD is a drug, Anti-Depressants are drugs. If they work fine, if they dont, then look for alternatives. To make a comment like, ""Drugs can't make shitty situations in your life go away, and they can't change the way you think." is just ignorant. Think about it. If a drug can make you happier, then your outlook is different. Then you start realsiing, that all the "problems" you had were actually a direct reflection of your outlook on the situation. How about people start listening to the Doctors who prescribe these, and to the people who use them. Don't listen to people's ignorant and uneducated opinions. My life was almost about to unfold underneath my feet. I couldn't sleep, eat, or socialise. I cried on my way to go work, because i just didn't have the energy or drive to be around people who were happy. I went to a Doctor, and now i have been 100% ever since. All i have to do is take a little pill in the morning, and one at night! Now whats wrong with that? It made my life completely different. - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:41am Edited: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:48am | ||
| KnifeGhost User Info... | "Anti-Depressants DO help you gain control of your thoughts." That's true, and I made no attempt to say otherwise. They help gain control of your thought. Some people need drugs to get their mind to the point where they can get control of it, and they should have them. But that's not the end of it. My point is that if your brain is fine, but you've got a lot of destructive attitudes about yourself, drugs won't fix that. And beyond that, it won't make you Dad love you or brother stop taking drugs or your boss give you the respect you deserve. What I was getting at is that for people whose brains need to be adjusted, drugs are great, and can be all the difference. But there are a lot of ways to be screwed up that drugs can't help. It sounds like you're a generally balanced guy when your brain's on board for it. You sound like you're exactly who these drugs are best for. I've known a few other people who'v been helped immensely by SSRIs. I also know some really screwed for whom SSRIs would do nothing. - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:37pm Edited: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:43pm | ||
| Pierce User Info... | I think the reason why i get so bent out of shape over this topic is that i was granted excellent care due to my occupation. When i went to work and told them what was going on, everyone freaked out and i saw Neurologists, Respirologists, Psychiatrist, Psychologist and even Genetic researchers. Others arent offered the same timely treatment. I seriously divorced my ex because of depression and my ignorance. She was depressed, and would cry, and i would say things like "If you want something to cry about, i will give you something". then she would spend 100$ on pills and say that it makes everything easier. I thought she was an idiot. I was the Idiot. I have an excellent health care provider and I have managed to repair myself. Unfortunately there are others that need the same help, and anykind of negative talk towards depression is not the best step forward. yes i do have my "shit" together, but 3 years ago i was a completely different person. My mother who was depressed her whole life, who didnt seek any kind of help what so ever, died at 46 from stomach cancer. The specialist say that she had the "butterfly effect". Her stomach couldnt handle it anymore. Anxiety and Depression are major isssues. All it takes is one step in the door of a doctors office. You may only need some excercise, which i did daily but was still not sleeping. But you may just need to take a pill once a day. And yes, these drugs can make your family love you, i was an asshole. Not now, well, not as much. Ok ya idiots? I am an idiot. - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 2:08pm Edited: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 2:16pm | ||
| KnifeGhost User Info... | What I'm saying it that it's a bad idea to try to diagnose yourself. Everyone needs a different approach to getting better. Yours was right for you, and that's great. Drugs might help Griphin, but the way to find out if they are isn't by asking on here. That was I was getting at in a roundabout way. - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 2:26pm Edited: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 2:29pm | ||
| Mi*coll* User Info... | Pierce, your situation is a complete anomaly. Most people go to the Doc and say "I'm feeling a bit down lately" and within minutes he has the Paxil prescription written up. No councelling, no excercise, just Paxil. - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 2:47pm Edited: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 2:49pm | ||
| Pierce User Info... | "Drugs might help Griphin, but the way to find out if they are isn't by asking on here. That was I was getting at in a roundabout way" you are 100% correct. Go to a doctor and ask for a referral. Remember, if a doctor gets 50% in University, he is still a doctor. So ask for a referral to a specialist. Neurologist first. Then Psychologist. Then Psychiatrist. The Neurologist can find out right away if anything is "wired" wrong. If not, you go to a "shrink" to see if you are simply fucked up in the head, then finally if counselling doesn't "snap" you out of your depression, try a Psychiatrist who can drug you into shape, like me. - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 3:56pm Edited: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 4:02pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Everytime I see that sentence "Drugs might help Griphin" I keep thinking of marijuana. It seems anti-depressives are generally bad, and I'd rather have a bottle in front of me then a frontal lobotomy!!! - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 6:05pm Edited: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 6:07pm | ||
| Shaggy User Info... | And all I'm saying is that anti-depressants, for which there is a myriad of types, don't always work for depression. What works for one person doesn't for another due to different brain chemistry. There's also far too many types of depression to lump it all under one control (anti-depressants). Anti-psychotics can also help people with different types of depression, but again is not a blanket control for any type of depression. I've dealt with depression/anxiety since I was in my early 20's and am now in my early 40's, my son is also bi-polar/anxiety. We've both ran the gammut with varying drugs and are both on completely different types of drugs even though our diagnosis is very similar. - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 7:53pm Edited: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 8:02pm | ||
| User User Info... | I think the shit people put in their bodies and call food is a major reason for the over prescription of these meds. Some people have real problems that only meds can help, but I think alot of people are malnourished from the "western diet". I changed my diet a couple months back. I don't eat anything that comes in a package, only fruits, vegatables, and meat with the occasional whole bread or non-sweetened cereal. I haven't felt this good since I was a kid. I don't get nearly as hungry either and eat alot less. Put down the fucking Snickers bar, they make you feel like shit. ;) - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 8:48pm Edited: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 8:52pm | ||
| Eurydice User Info... | ya know what? one thing doesn't work for all peoople, or even two people alike. I say, fuck opinions, get diagnosed (as difficult as it is to get a proper diagnosis), research you options, and keep the political/medical/bullshit to yourself. If you find something that's good for your soul, why deny it? Whatever it is. If you want info on my previous experience, e-mail me. - Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:51pm Edited: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:55pm | ||
| Mi*coll* User Info... | "the Western Diet" indeed. go back to eating the Rift Valley Diet if you don't like it! (ie have periodic episodes of starvation.) And Eurydice, you say "fuck opinions, get diagnosed", but what is a diagnoses but an educated opinion? this board might not consist of legitimate medical doctors, but we can sure dish out the anecdotal tips about psychiatric conditions. yeah - Sat, 15 Apr 2006 4:35am Edited: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 4:39am | ||
| Eurydice User Info... | " this board might not consist of legitimate medical doctors, but we can sure dish out the anecdotal tips about psychiatric conditions" daaaammmnnn right :) isn't that what life's all about, anyway? all i'm saying is, go to a doctor, then go to another one, then go to ten more, and try different things that work for your own morals and opinions. there are so many options out there. - Sat, 15 Apr 2006 1:41pm Edited: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 1:44pm | ||
| KnifeGhost User Info... | I'll quote it, cause it's true. "If you find something that's good for your soul, why deny it?" Don't worry about stigma, or people's ignorant bullshit opinions or whatever. If it makes you feel better (durably better, not "I only feel really alive when I smoke meth" better) and you have the means, do it up. Fuck anyone who doesn't like it. - Sat, 15 Apr 2006 2:09pm Edited: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 2:10pm | ||
| Mi*coll* User Info... | whatever, i feel durably better after blazing some shards out of a lightbulb. it's good for my soul! - Sat, 15 Apr 2006 4:48pm Edited: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 4:49pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | You do realize that smoking glass can be bad for your health right? Hey I didn't realize Shaggy started this thread. - Sat, 15 Apr 2006 8:27pm Edited: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 9:34pm | ||
| crow User Info... | Hey Griphin! I was hit with a pretty heavy depression! I suffered a serious head injury playing hockey!I havent played since ,So music took over as my passion!!If I can take a positive out of my "accident"It was More time to dedicate to ROCK n' ROLL.I have tried a few different antidepressant's.And Effexor worked miracles for me. I also suffer from a sleep disorder.I had luck with an anti physcotic called resperidone.But playing music ALWAYS made me feel better!The better the music the better I felt! And Weed helped HUGE!!! I tried a few "natural remedies" and they were no help at all except the Chronic!! But I believe "that which doesn't kill us only makes us stronger" and "any day above ground is a good day" Have a good one!!! :) And yeah a couple i tried messed me up bad!But the effexor made me feel "off" for a while and then smooth sailing.If i miss my meds i sure can tell!! GOOD LUCK!!! - Sat, 15 Apr 2006 11:30pm Edited: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 11:54pm | ||
| Mi*coll* User Info... | "If i miss my meds i sure can tell!!" That's because you're going into withdrawal, not because you are going back to your "normal" drug-free state. Don't confuse that. - Sun, 16 Apr 2006 1:16am Edited: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 1:20am | ||
| Eurydice User Info... | Can I just say how absolutely shitty is it that so many of us suffer from mental illness? Like, jeez, this thread was started only days ago and now everyone's talking about their own experiences, and the experiences of loved ones, etc etc etc. So obviously nothing is foolproof, or else none of us would have this problem. But thanks to everyone for giving your opinion, I think it helps to know you have options, rather than, as you said, just going to the doctor and walking out with a perscription. This time around when my depression flared up, I had to go to three seperate doctors before finding one who wouldn't just hand me a piece of paper; the one who inevitably ended up helping me the most was from the freakin clinic. All I can say Griph (and everyone in your position), is don't ignore your feelings or the suspicion that something a little deeper might be going on. Very often you think you're fine until one day, you realize how far it's gotten. And don't walk away satisfied with the latest meds. They ARE drugs, and they aren't a magical cure forever. - Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:45am Edited: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:51am | ||
| Anonymous User Info... | "Can I just say how absolutely shitty is it that so many of us suffer from mental illness?" Excellent statement. But it makes you wonder why at this point in human history "mental illness" is a common diagnosis. Drug companies are partially at fault. Doctors are on their payrolls and it is easier to perscribe meds than to actually "treat" someone. In my experience no drug (natural or unnatural) has the ability to "cure" depression. I took paxil twelve years ago on the advice of a psychiatrist and developed facial ticks, insomnia, and even attempted suicide after starting a twice daily dosage and it wasn't until I quit taking the meds that i saw improvements in my depression. The real problem is that our medicare system is designed to treat patients with a problem not treat patients who might be heading down the black hole of depression. Everyone gets depressed from time to time but others, like myself, have difficulties bringing ourselves back to a level where we can function somewhat normally. I caution those who are taking "drugs" to not just rely on them to cure you, you have to want to cure yourself and that means more than just thinking positively. If you take a hard look at your life you may find the areas in which change is required and that may begin the process of healing and recovery. Talking to a therapist I found was helpful probably moreso than just popping pills and being a zombie for 2 years as well as regular exercise and a good diet can help fight derpession. For those thinking of taking anti-depressants or who are currently on them (and are unsatisfied) to reconsider their options or switch to a natural form of meds. I am currently taking SamE (go to your local nutrition/vitamin shop) which has been perscribed as an anti depressant in Europe for quite a few years (i think 25). But most importantly do what works for you.....and not what your doctor, or mother, or friendly neighbourhood spiderman says because you know yourself the best. That is my 2 cents on this topic............ - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:46pm Edited: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 1:05pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Best logic yet on this thread. - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 3:55pm Edited: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 3:55pm | ||
| Mi*coll* User Info... | It is very important to talk to your doctor before taking yourself off of antidepressents or self-medicating with "herbal" meds. - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 4:28pm Edited: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 4:38pm | ||
| maddi User Info... | My advice- Go smoke a fuckin joint! - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 4:32pm Edited: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 4:33pm | ||
| denver User Info... | I agree anonymous and mr. hell. Everything is different for everyone, same with pot Maddi, it gave my best friend schizoprenia, and another psychosis. But obviously it's always an interplay between the person and the substance, cause pot works pretty well for most people it seems. - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 6:02pm Edited: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 6:05pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | HAIL XENU!! - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 6:06pm Edited: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 6:06pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Xenu?!? That doesn't have anything to do with Scient010gy, does it? - Thu, 20 Apr 2006 1:29am Edited: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 1:29am | ||
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