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Goodbye Superman
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| DOOMHAMMER User Info... | A man who became a hero by falling off a horse, and would of otherwise continued to be a no one. Weird world - Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:53pm | ||
| Masturbating The War God User Info... | You changed your post, you flip flopper - Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:54pm | ||
| DOOMHAMMER User Info... | I do not flip flop http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com/ - Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:59pm | ||
| princess p User Info... | Super man is dead. That's sad for me super man was my era for sure. ...On a lighter note did anyone ever see the south park about stem cell research! I hate to laugh now but it was funny at the time - Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:54pm | ||
| Bo-dom User Info... | c-c-christopher reeve the s-s-s-super b-b-butthole! - Tue, 12 Oct 2004 1:04am | ||
| Fred the Dragon User Info... |  Christopher Reeve was an asshole. For those of you who don't know, Christopher Reeve is the guy who played "Superman" in all four coma-inducing movies during the 80's. Before I even get started about his injury, I'd like to point out that "the curse of Superman" is bullshit, and I'd love nothing more than to punch the guy who came up with it. Just like the E! True Hollywood Stories "curse of The Little Rascals," it's much publicized Hollywood trash. Half the time they try to pass off a tragic event due to a "curse," it turns out that the actors died at the age of 86. Yeah real tragic, dumbass. An actor got murdered or paralyzed after living a healthy youth? Excuse me while I shit myself in awe at the mysterious power of the curse. In 1995 "the curse" struck Reeve as he was riding a horse called "Eastern Express." The horse was running around, trying to get the gangly asshole off of his back when he finally came to an abrupt stop before a jump, leaving Reeve's shit in ruins. Reeve became paralyzed from the neck down after the accident (more like conspiracy, another reason to add horse to the dinner menu). Why is Reeve an asshole? Simple: because he's selfish. Reeve didn't give a shit about paralysis before his accident, but now that he's paralyzed, suddenly he opens up a paralysis foundation and cares about the plight of cripples? Where was his foundation in '95 when he played the role of a man with spinal cord injury? Sure, some of you might argue that he's doing a good thing by bringing attention to paralysis, but the underlying message being sent here is that nobody gives a shit about cripples until a celebrity becomes one. What really pisses me off about Reeve is the sheer arrogance. Look up a Reeve biography and you'll find praise like "he has now found new meaning in life." Let me tell you something: any time you find new meaning in life because of a debilitating injury, your "old" life didn't have much meaning. Paralysis could strike anyone at any time, and if you're living your life in such a way that all your goals require the use of your arms and legs, then your life probably doesn't mean much to begin with. I'm sure people who were born paralyzed don't appreciate being told that their lives "have meaning too," as if they need affirmation from people who spend most of their lives working to pay off stupid bullshit like sports cars, expensive houses, and other junk that they don't need. The "still living life to the fullest" doctrine pisses me off even more because you can almost hear a voice in your head that finishes off the sentence with "...as a cripple." What does it mean to "still live life to the fullest"? Why should it require any extra effort or energy, or the addition of the word "still" in front if you were living your life "to the fullest" to begin with? What can physical mobility afford you that pure thought can't alone? It's so gracious of Mr. Reeve to acknowledge that you can "still" live a meaningful life, even as a cripple. I'm sure that people who struggle with paralysis every day are exuberant at having someone champion their cause, it's just too bad that Reeve is in all likelihood doing it because he cares about himself first and foremost. Would he have opened up a paralysis foundation before the accident? Doubtful. Of course, we can never know for sure, but the fact remains that he didn't open up a foundation before the accident, and he poured his heart and soul into research afterwards, so the only conclusion that can be made is that he's doing it simply because he himself needs treatment. The fact that he's helping thousands of people as he helps himself is a side effect of his cure; not necessarily his intention. I have little doubt that Mr. Reeve would work as hard to find a cure for paralysis if he was one of only a hand full of victims, so I don't think he deserves praise for this "good deed," because if it was intentional on his part to help these people, he probably would have had a paralysis foundation before the accident occurred. I didn't have any beef with Reeve before his accident, but it's the praise he collects for his selfishness that makes him an asshole in my book. If tomorrow Reeve selflessly dedicated all of his time and effort--or even half of it--towards finding a cure for cancer or heart disease, he'd have my respect (not that he's trying to earn my respect, but having my respect is an awesome privilege). Hell, he'd earn my respect if he just cut the condescending bullshit for a few minutes, such as this prize quote "I've noticed that there are very few roles for people in chairs... I would like to see people with disabilities featured sympathetically." No shit? As opposed to all those other movies that show people with disabilities being demonized? Like it happens so often anyway. Why should people with disabilities be featured any more sympathetically than people without disabilities? If his goal is to live a normal life, how normal could his life be if all his future roles were "sympathetic"? Oh look, here comes the cripple, everyone act sympathetic regardless of the plot, because real life cripples never experience conflict or drama. If I were in a wheel chair, I'd want an ass kicking role where I would spend the entire movie running over people's fingers and tossing old ladies off of cliffs, not some suck-ass sissy role where I'd sit around and cry like a pussy. Before you send me email bitching about me picking on cripples, ask yourself the following question: why is it any more acceptable to pick on non-cripples? Sounds like discrimination to me. If you're the type of person who would be offended by an article picking on Christopher Reeve without giving second thought to other celebrities I've picked on, chances are good that you're racist. - Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:20am | ||
| Matt User Info... | I'm going to have to agree with Maddox on this one. - Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:16am | ||
| Masturbating The War God User Info... | I hope he also means ANYONE who has never paid any attention to these causes until it affects someone they love or themselves, society is no better. But yes, I agree! - Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:38am | ||
| princess p User Info... | Sometimes there are causes that people don't think about until they or a loved one are affected by it. I don't think it makes them assholes. It just makes them late. We need people in this world to care about different causes even if it's forced upon them at least they are doing something to help. I really don't see how that can be a nagitive thing? Christopher Reeves was already giving money to other charity's before his injury because rich people get a tax break when they do that shit. All he did was start putting his money somewhere that would help himself and still keep money away from the government I can't say that I wouldn't do the same thing. - Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:54am | ||
| I|I User Info... | Mr. Fred the Dragon, why do you continue to waste your own life away by picking on celebrities and writing negative articles? Seems to me that you've got a very big chip on your shoulders. What sort of positive things do you, yourself do in order to make this world a better place? - Tue, 12 Oct 2004 3:37pm | ||
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| DOOMHAMMER User Info... | Even though previously I made the post I need to say something in regards to the maddox post. Its rare if not impossible you will find someone that will fight for a subject that has not either directly or indirectly affected the person, and the fact that he first became paralyzed before he was outspoken about it is a faulty argument because everyone is the same in that regard. Basically I just thought, rather than be my usual stupid self, to say that even though I think its wrong that it takes a celebrity to have something happen and that its not the same for a normal person, the simple fact is most people when something happens whine, complain and do nothing. He on the other hand dedicated his time to the subject even though he knew it wouldnt help him, and most people wouldnt do that, atleast not to the scale he did. He was a joke for being a crappy actor, but he recieves my respect for taking the subject and getting people talking about it, thinking, and discussing where as otherwise people would simply ignore, and running with it. Maddox has been, always will be, a smart man making posts for the ignorant idiots, and laughing at the people that read his shit. - Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:29pm | ||
| WhiskeyL'amour User Info... |  the fact remains, there was virtually no research done on quadriplegics before reeve's accident, there still is very little, not alot of people have the money and support that reeves had, obviously for this reason. He has opened eyes and given new life to quads, created new communities, and given direction, based on the fact that he, himself is a c2 spinal cord injury sufferer. Since his accident, he has put his own body up for examination to find out more, dude, after his eighth year of being paralized, he moved his hand, probably due to experimental electro therapy. This is particularily sensitive for me, because one of my closest friends got chucked off his bike, busted his c2, and is now a quad, he has a fucking machine breathing for him, the power goes out, hes fucked. three months ago, he surfed, he snowboarded, he sailed, he carved, we used to joke about sneaking him ritalin, and STILL having him bounce around, now hes on a bed, in van general, asking someone to push him off a cliff cause he cant do it himself. in regards to your saying that he should dedicate some time and effort finding a cure for cancer, dude, its like throwing money down a well, its not going to happen any time soon, there has been virtually no progress, people are still dying, and thats just the way it is. This is immediate, in ten years, he has created more results than cancer research has in 20, single handedly, well, no handedly. Im not burning you, you just seem like you have a very youthful unbacked and maybe through consequence, you will learn to see things from different angles, but until then, dont bash people who can do brilliant things, using only their head, than you will ever do with your entire person, regardless of fame or circumstance. He had alot of money, you have mobility, maybe the fact that he has a famous history is fates way of saying, heres your leg up man, do something with it, i doubt someone would have done so much for someone who wasnt well heard of, and look what that accomplished! he was a rolemodel to alot of quads, parapalegics, sick, dying kids, adults, even me, cause when dan got into his accident, christopher and dana reeves were the only real source of information, and probably kept me far off of 'offing' myself. read a book, volunteer, gain perspective, do something useful. - Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:33pm | ||
| I|I User Info... |  I've literally been doing it ass-backwards. - Wed, 13 Oct 2004 3:10pm | ||
| Jesse The Malcontent User Info... | Fred The Dragon is a good example of the self righteous mocking the self righteous. "It's just a handle" Yeah, that's fine. you may as well use a façade if you see fit to just spout non-sensical levity left and right from some dumb ass web site. I never met Christopher Reeve and really have never had any such urge to, but to call him an asshole for not just finding a cause, but to personally discover a cause; are two different things. This fictional character that can say something so stupid like "I'm not saying it's true. I'm just saying it's funny" about anyone's personal tradgedy celeb or not is pretty weak. I never fully understood a stroke until it happened to someone close, nor did I know what the hell aphasia was. Now I do. Does it make me selfish to be concerned only after the fact that it has effected people in my life? I doubt it. BTW: I don't care for celebrities. I realize that they make too much money and live sickeningly decadent lives - but when they speak up - people listen. If it be Metallica talking about the west memphis 3, Eddie Vedder speaking about the death penalty, or Reeve talking about stem cell research - they're voices are heard. It's a shame we live in a fame crazed society, but it's the truth - honestly i'd rather hear from the latter than to hear david Shwimmer sing about circus animal abuse or some other mindless jargon. - Sat, 16 Oct 2004 2:40am | ||
| Fred the Dragon User Info... | "You may as well use a façade if you see fit to just spout non-sensical levity left and right from some dumb ass web site." Exactly my point. Thank you for qualifying it. - Sat, 16 Oct 2004 2:41pm | ||
| The One After Two User Info... |  Send Maddox and email, I thought it was funny in an evil way... that's why I read the internet. Fred's greatest gift to all of us is this: a bunch of internet nerds who normally debate the virtues of Black Metal are talking about Spinal Cord research, doesn't that make you feel warm and fuzzy? As for the the Cancer Research Industry, I don't even want to get into those money grubbing do-gooders. Stop talking on cell-phone and polluting the enviroment, live longer. - Sat, 16 Oct 2004 10:57pm | ||
| V-DUB User Info... |  A fun little game for ya... - Sat, 23 Oct 2004 1:24pm | ||
| Miss Personality User Info... | Hilarious game. - Mon, 25 Oct 2004 7:20pm | ||
| Fred the Dragon User Info... |  (Just because I love stirring the pot...) Oh poor guy, booo hooo hooo! He has nothing left in his miserable existence. Except for the millions of dollars he'll command in sales and donations from the two book deals he got since his accident, the publicity from going on hundreds of tours and public talks, and a jump start to his dead career with possibly more opportunities rolling in after his accident than before (let's face it, when is the last time you saw a Reeve film that didn't involve him wearing spandex?). On top of that, he gets blind praise from millions for an accident that occurred to him while he was riding his trained thoroughbred horse, after having lived the better part of his life as a handsome millionaire, who has been sought after by millions of women and probably a good chunk of men. Not to mention the best medical treatment in the world in addition to the financial resources to continue the best physical therapy after the accident, a luxury not available to most other paralysis victims. The fact that you think he has nothing to look forward to just because he's a cripple is not only insulting to him, but all people with paralysis, which is infinitely worse than the assertion I've made. Nice job, you insensitive cock. You're right though, other than a Grammy award for his audio recording of his best selling book, 5 emmy nominations for his directorial debut, Golden Globe Award nomination, and Screen Actors Guild Award for "Best Actor," he hasn't had anything to look forward to since his accident, right dipshit? I'm sure all of the awards were given to him for his talent too, despite the fact that he had the same talent before the accident and starred in 19 movies since the last Superman movie in 1987 without winning so much as a Golden Raspberry award (unless you count the "Young Artist Award" he received in 1996; with recognition like that, people must have been beating his door down to get him to star in their movies). - Fri, 29 Oct 2004 8:07pm | ||
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