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| -=PeNgUiN=- User Info... | We've had this debate again and again, but I'd like to hear some of people's favourite Victoria bands. Also, list your fevorite youth bands. Please add the elements of sound and stage presence into your opinions. I'd have to say my best local band I've seen might just be Making Mischief. Good sound, good st. presence. Best youth band: Hoochy Girls, cause they're fun What do you think Victoria - Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:29pm | ||
| --{-(X)-}-- User Info... | making mischief is good, but they aren't the best band in town by a longshot. good choice with the hoochy girls though. - Thu, 11 Dec 2003 9:23pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | yeknob. - Thu, 11 Dec 2003 9:51pm | ||
| kittykat666 User Info... | hmmmm.... best vic band.... i would say the proles, but they broke up, iskra is good... is this current bands b/c Black Kronstadt take the cake every time... Current: tough as nails yesteryear: black kronstadt, hudson mack, astro zombies!!!! - Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:12pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | Did the Proles really breakup? Say it ain't so. - Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:15am | ||
| Daryl Armour User Info... | MONEYSHOT is the best victoria band - Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:37am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | Until We Have Faces Tough As Nails A.W.T. Betty Ford Hoosegow Pariah The fat guy who name drops all his "friends" bands Shivs Sweathogs Chokehold etc... heeheeheeee - Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:42am | ||
| SentencedtoBurn User Info... | Pariah, ML7, Within A Vision, Dayglos. Gallow's End used to be one of my favs as well...it's too bad. - Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:21pm | ||
| Wreaker of Havoc User Info... | ya the GE singer was hot. Now the loud mouth frontman of Chokehold. Come see him naked Boxing Day at Logans..... - Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:40pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | ohpleasegodno..... - Fri, 12 Dec 2003 2:25pm | ||
| Wreaker of Havoc User Info... | "ohpleasegodno" from the latin phrase meaning "I have no genitals" - Fri, 12 Dec 2003 2:37pm | ||
| Ty Stranglehold User Info... | "The fat guy who name drops all his "friends" bands" Fat people make me sick! - Fri, 12 Dec 2003 8:09pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | uhhh... I was taling about me. Fatso. - Fri, 12 Dec 2003 8:42pm | ||
| [+} User Info... | younguns: maurice. (overall) hoochy girls. (fun factor) lythic blue. (technical) enowonk. (funky badassedness) end. - Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:25pm | ||
| ian too late User Info... | i think that one drop is probally like my fav victoria band so chill, and all the other ska bands includeing mine ten too late haha jk i would never vote my own band - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:39am | ||
| MucusAndBile User Info... | Allfather. duuuu.... - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 7:50am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | Allfather aint' from Vic man, more like down the street from Satan. Just around the corner from Hell, a few blocks from Valhalla you know? In the same neighborhood as the burning eternal pit. You know, that area.... - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 7:58am | ||
| Alex User Info... | I like the Armchair Cynics and Hot Hot Heat. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:50am | ||
| Rain Storm User Info... | Allfather Iskra Peruke! Staaf Only!!!! - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:52am | ||
| Graham User Info... | I like Grace Nocturnal. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 2:59pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | yeknob, man. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 4:08pm | ||
| k8 User Info... | ML7, The Dayglos, The Hoochy Girls, Amps To Eleven, Alison Crowe... - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 4:19pm | ||
| Ty Stranglehold User Info... | "uhhh... I was taling about me. Fatso." I know, so was I. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 6:38pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | "I know so was I" Yeah me too. Fatty. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:01pm | ||
| jake User Info... | are the frog eyes from victoria?? cuz they are really really good. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:32pm | ||
| HardcoreKid User Info... | Dayglos, Self Inflicted, Tough As Nails - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:45am | ||
| Eurydice User Info... | Armchair Cynics, Grace Nocturnal, Hoochy Girls - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:57am | ||
| Josh User Info... | AWT always will be in my books - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:04pm | ||
| ted zeppelin User Info... | dayglos are the best band IN CANADA, so i dont know what yer talkin aboot - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:20am | ||
| ska-t User Info... | no means no- are hands down the best band on this planet, Live AND recorded. - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 2:13pm | ||
| Habitat Ian User Info... | I'd have to go with No Means No here as well. They rock pretty fuckin hard. - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 4:06pm | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | ALLFATHER!!! Iskra Enchanted Faeries Seasons of Sorrow Mitochondrion (haha self plug) - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 4:27pm | ||
| Mr. Choad N. McFly User Info... | I'd agree with Ross Bay, Yenob all the way!!! hahahah - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 7:22pm | ||
| [+} User Info... | hanson brothers. - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 8:07pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | all the bands you guys listed suck, I am the best band in Victoria. - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 8:32pm | ||
| kittykat666 User Info... | ALLFATHER SUKK.... - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 9:29pm | ||
| The Other Nick User Info... | I've heard those Mitochondrion guys, and they suck clown testes. Ok, sure, they just finnaly found a drummer, and sure, some of there members are still in high school, but come on! Death Metal! Who the hell likes death metal. I oughta go over there and beat all their punk-asses. (shameless plug) - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 9:42pm | ||
| Teste Coils User Info... | whatever happend to the perish or whatever... - Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:15pm | ||
| Nathan User Info... | they realized that they were a joke - Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:44am | ||
| Eurydice User Info... | Mitochondrion fucking blow, but they're sure good lookin'... - Tue, 16 Dec 2003 3:36pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | yeah those Mitochondrion boys are alright, except that faggoty vocalist. That dude is the personification of gay rape. And yes, I still am the best band in Victoria. - Tue, 16 Dec 2003 4:29pm | ||
| --{-(X)-}-- User Info... | QUOTE: '[+} hanson brothers' fuck yes! nooooo..... - Tue, 16 Dec 2003 4:44pm | ||
| Graham User Info... | are the Hanson Bros. from Victoria? if they are that would make sense... i really hope i'm not setting myself up for slagging. - Tue, 16 Dec 2003 4:51pm | ||
| -=PeNgUiN=- User Info... | don't think so bro. No worries, we always got...The Moffats:) - Tue, 16 Dec 2003 5:07pm | ||
| [+} User Info... | http://www.mintrecs.com/bands/speak/hansons/hansons2003.html actually, they attended quadra elementary. the hanson brothers (as in Slap Shot & Slap Shot 2) not HANSON. - Tue, 16 Dec 2003 5:14pm | ||
| Jayson User Info... | just got the Century Media newsletter and ML7 was on the list of CD's for sale.. for the new CD. are those guys signed to Century Media now or something? it doesnt say anything about it on the website... - Tue, 16 Dec 2003 5:51pm | ||
| Ty Stranglehold User Info... | "the hanson brothers (as in Slap Shot & Slap Shot 2)" The ones from the movies are not the ones from Vic. The band happens to be the best from our city though. - Tue, 16 Dec 2003 7:01pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | you guys must be shitting me? you don't know who the Hanson Bros. are? Come on guys..... - Wed, 17 Dec 2003 3:47am | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Why yes, the Hanson Brothers are like the evil side of NoMeansNo, and NoMeansNo are originally from Victoria. They based the characters from those Hanson Brothers you see in the Slap Shot movies (old time hockey and don't forget about the foil!!!) http://nomeamsno.freewebsitehosting.com/ -=- NomeansNo and the Hanson Brothers website. The first Hanson Brothers CD is one of my favorite local/Hanson Brothers CDs, cause it's just really fun to listen to. Hmmm... my favorite 5 local bands (in no specific order): The Remanes (CD due out Boxing Day), Self Inflicted, Lid, Micky Christ, A.W.T. - Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:48am | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | Mitochondrion rocks the house!! But the bassist I heard is a hitler heiling, cross-burning, skinheaded, racist, klan member. Not to mention that he pays young pre-teen boys to suck them off. - Wed, 17 Dec 2003 8:36pm | ||
| [+} User Info... | oh i know. obviously not the same as the films... but close enough. - Wed, 17 Dec 2003 8:38pm | ||
| mi.coll. User Info... | i like hanson. - Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:05pm | ||
| Pooetry User Info... | Dayglo Abortions, nomeansno, Hanson Bros, Lummox, but i don't know much about music, but I can sure get a groove on and shake my jiggy to these rockin bands. - Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:06pm | ||
| 3NSmatt User Info... | Kincaide, you just dont know it yet. - Thu, 18 Dec 2003 7:10am | ||
| ML7Mike User Info... | "just got the Century Media newsletter and ML7 was on the list of CD's for sale.. for the new CD. are those guys signed to Century Media now or something? it doesnt say anything about it on the website... " No dude, ML7 just have Distribution via Century Media Records. Basically they include our CD in their catalog and in promo packs and then they pay Galy Records, who in turn would pay us. Not bad considering that newsletter gets sent out to a few million people worldwide. - Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:08am | ||
| Wreaker of Havoc User Info... | ChokeHold are so great. They always make me wanna drink beer and hump pretty girls.....ok ugly ones too.... - Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:49am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | "too"? you mean only..... - Thu, 18 Dec 2003 5:47pm | ||
| el fuckface-o User Info... | choadload chokeload choadhold no matter what you call it, it's still third rate. - Thu, 18 Dec 2003 7:03pm | ||
| Wreaker of Havoc User Info... | Is that good? - Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:02pm | ||
| el fuckface-o User Info... | no, not at all. - Thu, 18 Dec 2003 9:02pm | ||
| Wreaker of Havoc User Info... | good niether was your sister - Thu, 18 Dec 2003 9:58pm | ||
| el fuckface-o User Info... | much like the attractiveness of the staff at island herpes, er beauties - that was weak. - Fri, 19 Dec 2003 5:32am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | third rate? shit man, you just made our day bro!! until just now we were fourth rate, maybe fifth. we just moved up 2 whole rating points because of you kid!! oh happy day thank you so!! - Fri, 19 Dec 2003 7:29am | ||
| Wreaker of Havoc User Info... | Now we have this 3rd rate shit to live up to. No drinking for anyone who plays an instrument at our next show. Thank gawd I dont play one. heheheh. And Island Beauties? Not sure you got yer facts quite straight......like your sexuality...... - Fri, 19 Dec 2003 7:31am | ||
| Hellablades User Info... | NomeansNo Black Kronstadt Hanson Bros 9th Hour Iskra Randy and the Reacharounds* the Cock Smugglers* the Gully Dwarves* *possibly THE best bands in the world - Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:49am | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | I'm better. - Fri, 19 Dec 2003 2:41pm | ||
| el fuckface-o User Info... | island herpes, victoria's beaten. it's all sloppy seconds. and i figure you personally owe me a refund. even your loosest ugly ho was too small for me. the only hole that could probably fit all of me at your pseudo-hepfactory is your two foot wide assmoat. i will fuck it if it moves. and you certainly move, but not fast enough fortunately for you. - Fri, 19 Dec 2003 3:15pm | ||
| Valhellablades User Info... | I was so high on coke and acid i forgot to put Repulverizer & Immaculate Infection on my list. my bad. Hey, wouldn't it be cool if there was a band like S.T.R.E.E.T.S. about rollerblading. - Sun, 21 Dec 2003 11:24am | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Heh... Lummox, Murray at his best, pure genius. But WHY don't they sell a bunch of the first/only CD at like Ditch Records or Lyle's Place (HMV and A&B Sound suck cause they won't sell local stuff)?!? I'd love to get ahold of that (I had to download my copy :( ). - Sun, 21 Dec 2003 8:15pm | ||
| Your Pal Alky User Info... | Quote: "No worries, we always got...The Moffats:)" - PeNgUiN ...whatever happened to The Moffats??? Someone good from here better make it big soon 'cause this town needs better acts to represent us other than *shudder* The Moffats and Nelly Furtado! - Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:34am | ||
| Brandon User Info... | Well me and my old band egged the moffats, for those of you who havent seen the video heres the link, http://scenepages.com/tripwyre/ click on the egg carton on the left hand side to watch operation EGGMOFF - Mon, 22 Dec 2003 1:06pm | ||
| oi_thebanned_oi User Info... | the banned.....oi.....oh wait ...this is a "BEST of"...shit ...when the "worst of" shit starts ill try again.hahahaha..... - Mon, 22 Dec 2003 1:28pm | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | Oh fuck, how dare I forget about Repulverizer. Twenty lashings. - Mon, 22 Dec 2003 6:04pm | ||
| Wreaker of Havoc User Info... | Chokehold may not be the best but are definitly the most famous......EVER - Mon, 22 Dec 2003 7:53pm | ||
| el fuckface-o User Info... | repurgerizer are great if you enjoy listening to a duck do vocals over generic grindmetal. - Tue, 23 Dec 2003 4:20pm | ||
| Pinkie User Info... | hm... id have to say Self Inflicted Pariah Alcoholic White Trash Dayglos Until We Have Faces Undergo and ... yeah. :) - Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:14pm | ||
| Jodi User Info... | one of the moffatts works at guess in the bay center - Thu, 25 Dec 2003 2:03pm | ||
| One Divided User Info... | Grace Nucturnal, Ghost of Science (JAF) are two of my favourites.. I caught the end of the set by "Maurice" at lucky the other night and I must say, I was totally blown away. Can't wait to see their whole set. - Thu, 25 Dec 2003 9:46pm | ||
| Colonel Mustard User Info... | best vic bands jeffery sez big muff - Fri, 26 Dec 2003 8:55pm | ||
| Fools in Love User Info... | Tripwyre - I ran the Youth Centre out in Langford for 8-9 years and we put on a number of shows (about 50) and saw bands from all over North America - many of you saw shows there - my pick for the best show was done by Nothing to Lose but one of the bands which really stood out for me was Tripwyre. This was a band which had, Brandon, correct me, 9-10 members - three horns - two guitars etc etc but their onstage mix was incredible - here was a band which had an amazing scense of their volume relative to each other - I regret not having seen them live again - amazing band! - Fri, 26 Dec 2003 9:30pm | ||
| BLONDIE User Info... | ...I always have a good time with Grace Nocturnal...& the guys from the Armchair Cynics have yet to disappoint me... - Sat, 3 Jan 2004 4:50pm | ||
| [+} User Info... | a second on the maurice. mhm. - Sat, 3 Jan 2004 6:09pm | ||
| Brandon User Info... | two guits, one bass, three horns and a drummer. I still play with our old lead singer dave snow and nev the alto sax player in onedrop, check us our on the 17th with slaveco, peoples war, lythic blue, and aiden knight(spelling may be off on the last one) Brandon - Sat, 3 Jan 2004 11:46pm | ||
| [+} User Info... | aidan. but thanks brandon! - Sun, 4 Jan 2004 3:37pm | ||
| cranefuzz User Info... | SELF INFLIClickedTED... see ya on the 23rd fuckers!!! - Sun, 4 Jan 2004 3:50pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | 23rd? huh? - Sun, 4 Jan 2004 4:49pm | ||
| criss crass User Info... | At Dizzy's yeah? - Sun, 4 Jan 2004 4:57pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | naw. cancelled. - Sun, 4 Jan 2004 5:00pm | ||
| cranefuzz User Info... | Fine, then we'll heDline! HAha - Mon, 5 Jan 2004 7:11pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | who the fuck are you? - Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:12am | ||
| Chris Choke User Info... | ever heard of pendemic - Tue, 6 Jan 2004 6:22am | ||
| Akylore User Info... | Hmmmm...man this has made me realize that I've lived on the Island for like 10 years now, first moved to Vic in '94, so I've seen a lot of shit since then. But I'll try to recoup and list the stuff I enjoyed all around.... HUDSON MACK: Fun shit when I wasn't old enough to go to bar shows, I remember seeing them with M-BLANKET and they put on a good show too. Oh yeah, NOTHING TO LOSE was good stuff live back then as well. Unfortunately I don't think I ever caught BLACK KRONSTADT back in the day... DAYGLO ABORTIONS: C'mon, nothing more to say. Legendary. Saw 'em again at the Cambie in Nanaimo last Saturday, 'Feed US a Fetus' is one of the most classic albums of all time and will always reign, period. MEATLOCKER7: Never was big on them back in the early 90's era but when we played with them at the Dizzy's Show (Jan 2003) through that sound system I was super impressed. Solid drumming, chunky precise riffs, good shit. Looking forward to hearing them with Death-metal-Dave.... WITHIN A VISION: Saw 'em at Dizzy's and The Cambie, really tight drumming was the highlight and good guitar work too, looking forward to hearing them with their new line-up since then... IMMACULATE INFECTION: Fun, fun shit. I'm only into grind if it's outrageous, and they pulled off that aspect quite well (especially with the spazz vox/blast beat combos and the 'cement brick guitar work' hahaha.....) ISKRA: Probably the only 'crust' (just got aquainted with the term) group I've heard and liked, the mp3's only had a couple elements that grabbed me but when I finally saw them at the Little Fernwood I lost it and moshed immediately. The double vox assault was rad, they seem to make the discordant hardcore sound quite enjoyable to listen to. DESENSITIZED: Again fun shit, 80's style thrash, catchy riffs, not as technical as WITHIN A VISION but for fun thrash it tears. GALLOW'S END: Great blues-ish melodic death metal, again real fun shit to hear at shows and blast at parties. They'll be missed. PARIAH: Again tore it up with the melodic metal sound, their 'At The Gates' cover is appropriate, can definitely hear the influence in their music. Really enjoyed their show with Kataklysm. A bit harsher than GALLOW'S END but similar style. REPULVERIZER: Hilarious shit. I still remember Cruiser breaking his bass string and still playing without stopping at the Dizzy's show, that's fucking metal. I'm looking forward to seeing them again soon... ALLFATHER: A crushing outalsh of black metal, the only problem was that most of the places they played I couldn't hear much of what they were doing (shitty sound guys,) but seeing them at Dizzy's was the prize. Hopefully I'll catch them again at a better venue. If I didn't list any others then I didn't see your show or haven't heard your stuff yet (or didn't care for it...) - Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:18am | ||
| toby User Info... | Hey what about Attention Deficet Disorder (A.D.D) catch them at the cambie back in '99-'00? they took down the railing and had at least five guys kicked out'a the bar for moshing violently! that was a fuck'n briliant band....... totaly drain dead vocalist! - Tue, 6 Jan 2004 6:40pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | yeknob. - Wed, 7 Jan 2004 2:51pm | ||
| tard bowl cut User Info... | i whent too thee poul twodae ande weared mi hellmut inn the poole an then i peed ine the shalow nd and a poo cam out ofe mi soot intoo the wattor ande itt floted into thi deepe end ande alll thee peepole runed owt of the poul ande then i ped on th dore off the hott room and the beste bande in victora iss jeffreee says - Wed, 7 Jan 2004 3:57pm | ||
| Stefan User Info... | Armchair Cynics, and the ex. Limestone. - Wed, 7 Jan 2004 7:22pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | Is Sweeny Todd from here? They get my vote! - Wed, 7 Jan 2004 9:12pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | The BEST Vic. band? hmmmm.... how 'bout this shee-ot load o'cool ones: Infamous Scientists Neos Let's Put the "X" in Sex Jerk Ward Shovlhed Nomeansno Automatic Shock Big Sounder Chainsaw Dayglo Abortions Sludge Confrontations Wrought: Ironsmile Infect Wanting to Work with Clay? Mission of Christ Debt of Nature Noah's Other Ark Shutdown + Drone = Shutdrone? Bury What's Dead hump. Jonas Chronomare Fracas Embrace the Kingdom Section 46 BOTH Crepidus's Truth About Angels Allfather (who ARE from Vic. except Van. vocalist) Pariah Ghosts Black Vein Prophecy Sensitones Third World Planet Immaculate Infection There are, of course, other bands I could mention, but I'm in them, so you'll just have to fuckin' guess which ones those are. I'd like to see Mr. Rick Andrews's list! - Thu, 8 Jan 2004 5:01pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | Even though I never actually saw them, the amazing stories I've heard about Crucified Innocence makes me give them top honours. - Thu, 8 Jan 2004 5:26pm | ||
| Jenna User Info... | undergo Element 7 and Jell isn't that bad - Thu, 8 Jan 2004 9:37pm | ||
| ballz andy User Info... | i saw Crucified Innocence at the first shred fest. they got spat on for mass and they got alot of beer shoes and stuff tossed at em.it was great. the guy was palying a electric piano guitar thing. fuckin homo eh - Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:03am | ||
| Instrument of Karma #1 User Info... | No one has mentioned Bronze? I've seen them a couple of times and was quite impressed. Best of all, no huge ego thing, just a bunch of musicians. Definitely a smooth tight act. (I said ACT, don't get excited). Incidentally, I knew the Crucified Innocence guys, and just so it is known, the best thing about going to their jams was that there were more pretty women there than any other jam I've ever been to. Oh, and I think there was music or something. Why is it that the more a guy looks like a girl, the more the girls chase him? Are they looking for makeup tips or what. DK's keyboard playing IS sensational...if it's your cup of tea, but that band had NO place at shredfest. - Fri, 9 Jan 2004 5:08am | ||
| DeDutchClutch User Info... | Lots of good bands in this town.... How about best musician.... I got say Adam from Armchair cynics. I hate guys like him. He can play anything and he can do it better than anyone. Fucking Dave grohl mofo. Good for him - Fri, 9 Jan 2004 5:25am | ||
| davescene User Info... | How about HOC (House of Commons) Red Tide (Da Jeep sucked) the Wardells (head in hands, shit I feel old) - Fri, 9 Jan 2004 8:50am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | yeknob, man. - Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:06am | ||
| Ebolavire User Info... | Eurydice, why did you choose that name? Pariah rules all! - Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:12pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | yeknob. - Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:28pm | ||
| cranefuzz User Info... | what the fuck is yeknob - Fri, 9 Jan 2004 3:17pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | don't ever say that again. - Fri, 9 Jan 2004 3:26pm | ||
| Mr. Choad N. McFly User Info... | Yeknob is a music making group, we take instruments and with them make noise. it can be quite fun at times. old people dont like us though. - Sat, 10 Jan 2004 1:57pm | ||
| Broccoli User Info... | Yeknob? that some kind of small furry rodent isn't it? - Sat, 10 Jan 2004 1:59pm | ||
| chris User Info... | I just thought it was an acronym like fubar... fuck it was just a question you dumb fucks. And for the post about best bands on the island Self Inflicted, Seasons of Sorrow, Kickback, Unit 29, Gallows End, Evilosity, Pariah and Sonic Doom - Sat, 10 Jan 2004 3:51pm | ||
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