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Review of the Times Colon ists review of Judas Priest
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| 1986 User Info... | if you have read the TC's review you'll know what im talking about... who let this guy write this review??? through the entire review he is giving praise to metallica, maiden and black sabbath all while contiunally insulting priest. He is using this article as a vehicle for personal opinion and not to give a accurate review of the show. What does a review of a judas preist show have to do with metallica, maiden and sabbath? It says REVIEW at the top of the page, not OPINION. His opinion is that the only good albums are "screaming" and "b. steel" and that they were only appropriate during the 80's. The fact that horde of screaming idiots variying from children to 60yr old men singing along at the show to songs from 77 to 08 is concrete contridictory evidence. Six of the 12 paragraphs are the writer's opinion...scorn for priest..nothing to do with the show. Three are mixed negitive opinion and review, and only three are review. what the shit. why does this piss me off...why does anything piss me off? i like maiden and sabbath (and old mettalica) as much as the next guy, but they have NOTHING to do with this show..fuck off. Metal is my life. Victoria is my life. Metal in Victoria is my life. Priest = Metal. TC = a main voice of victoria. I take this as victoria disrespecting metal..which i take as a big fuck you. karl bring weed to band practice please thankyou - Thu, 24 Jul 2008 4:59pm Edited: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 5:00pm | ||
| Zedius User Info... | Mike Devlin doesn't know. - Thu, 24 Jul 2008 5:27pm | ||
| Yo Mama User Info... | 1986.... I wrote the article. Thanks for your feedback. I appreciate your opinion; the article was mine. And I did my best to make sure it is an informed one. If you knew me (which I asssume you do not), you would know I am a longtime metal fan of everything from Slipknot to Sabbath. But the simple fact Priest have ruled at various points in their career (and they have, obviously) is not enough to warrant a glowing review. They have to bring it. They did that for about half the show. Hence the 50 per cent grade. Yes, they had some fine moments last night, which I reported. KK and Tipton? Killer. But the band (whose new album blows) was not going to get a glowing review simply because they are veterans. if that was the case, the Beach Boys would be killing arenas left right and centre simply on the basis of 40 years experience. Sadly, they are not. Furthermore, the reason why I mention Sabbath/Metallica/Maiden is that if Priest are to be considered metal gods, they must rate as such. They did not last night. Maiden would destroy last night's show in an instant. So would Sabbath and Metallica. I attended with a trio of metalheads, each of whom has seen Priest numerous times (as far back as the mid-'80s.) Five songs in, they were all bored. My opinion, of course. After about 400 shows, from country to metal to jazz rap, I think it is a generally informed one. - Thu, 24 Jul 2008 5:34pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Refreshing to hear someone giving their opinion without worrying about the backlash of metal coddlers. Keep up the integrity, Mike! - Thu, 24 Jul 2008 5:57pm | ||
| 1986 User Info... | dude, your review sucks. please please please if you do another show review review THE SHOW dont talk about how good or bad you THINK a band used to be and what other bands you like that you THINK are in their same relm. It doesnt make any sense to ME because judas priest are in the era previous to maiden and sabbath, and 2 eras previous to mettalica. Citing them as contemperies makes me think you are new to the genere. Go ahead and tear into them for that show but please not because you THINK other bands are "better". Yeah, the set was short, the props were limited, their movement around stage was little, the backdrops were cheap. . . but they played like HELL!!!! we got to hear 31 year old songs played with modern high gain and production!! - Thu, 24 Jul 2008 6:25pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | Not that it matters, but I'd venture to say Sabbath was first. - Thu, 24 Jul 2008 7:05pm | ||
| Tyler User Info... | Apparently a certain someone doesn't understand that a review is extremely flexible in form and that opinion forms a major part of it. Just because you don't agree with something doesn't mean it's wrong. A review is not a play-by-play dry narrative of what exactly happened during a show, even if that's what you appear to want. He accomplished something by making you excited enough to make the post. The background information and comparisons are vital to explaining why his opinion lies the way it does. Too bad he didn't like a band you like, huh? - Thu, 24 Jul 2008 7:09pm | ||
| 1986 User Info... | You know what, I read you post again and I call bullshit. Lets play the picking apart the post game. "And I did my best to make sure it is an informed one" How...by asking your 3 friends...not very informed...who else did you ask? "I am a longtime metal fan of everything from Slipknot to Sabbath" ...ha ha you like slipknot...sounds like a long time metalhead to me...couldnt think of a better example with an actual metal band eh? not to be elitist or anything but ...yeah..slipknot?? come on. "But the simple fact Priest have ruled at various points in their career (and they have, obviously) is not enough to warrant a glowing review." What the crap does this have to do with this show that just happened..this is not a review of their career...this is a review of the show!!.NOT THE SAME THING..STOP CONFUSING THE TWO. "new album blows) was not going to get a glowing review simply because they are veterans" Same damn thing...STOP CONFUSING THINGS..this in not an album review this is a show review STOP STOP STOP PLEASE OH DEAR GOD "Maiden would destroy last night's show in an instant. So would Sabbath and Metallica" Yeah, by playing songs of their new albums I'm sure SAINT ANGER!! hoooooooo SAINT ANGER!! Sabbaths last album came out in 1995...the memorable FORBIDDEN!! oooh everyone remembers that...(people are aware of preists new album btw) Maiden are also younger..remember this. also, REVIEW THIS SHOW..THIS IS NOT AN EDITORIAL stop contrasting irrelevent things. "My opinion, of course. After about 400 shows, from country to metal to jazz rap, I think it is a generally informed one." Then why do you have so much trouble writing a unbiased review...also...jazz rap sounds rad! (serious!!) post some links plz. - Thu, 24 Jul 2008 7:24pm Edited: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 7:24pm | ||
| 1986 User Info... | 'He accomplished something by making you excited enough to make the post" True I guess he's getting paid for something constructive after all. Internet hate is safe, groovy and fun. - Thu, 24 Jul 2008 7:36pm | ||
| 1986 User Info... | True: These are important bands: Priest formed in 1967 KK Downing and Ian Hill joined in 1969 Halford joined in 1973 Tipton joined in 1974 Rocka Rolla came out in 1974, it was supposed to have Tyrants, Genocide, and The Ripper on it. Priest are STILL going Black Sabbath formed in 1969 (2 years after priest) Their Self Titled came out in 1970 (but four years before Rocka Rolla) Black Sabbath finished writing music 13 years ago These are less important bands: Maiden formed in 1975 by Steve Harris (1 year after priest's first album...) Dave Murry joined in 1976 Adrian Smith in 1980 Self Titled album came out in 1980 Priest had Rocka Rolla, Sad Wings, Sin after Sin, Stained Class, Killing Machine, Unleashed in the East, and British Steel by 1980...Sabbath had S/T, Paranoid, Masters of Reality, Vol.4, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sabotage, Techinical Ecstacy, Never Say Die?, Live at Last, and Heaven and Hell by 1980. Priest had 7 albums by the time maiden released their 1rst. Black Sabbath had 10 albums by the time maiden released their 1rst. Metallica formed in 1981 Kill em all came out in 1983 by then maiden had S/T, Killers, # of the beast, and Piece of Mind. Maiden had 4 albums when Metallica had 1 SO Judas Priest (formed 1967)(lyrics: rock, tyrany, genocide) Black Sabbath (formed 1968)(lyrics: satan, lucifer, politics) Maiden (formed 1975) Metallica (formed 1981) i think priest supercedes sabbath (although barely) because: A) formed 1 to 2 years earlier B) has more "metal" lyrics to begin with: genocide/tyranny versus satan/lucifer (which had already been done by psych rock bands at the time eg. Black Widow/Coven) C) is still putting out new material with the same lineup CONCLUSION: all hail priest and sabbath listen to iron maiden and metallica is a metal band that has done well !REAL! ps. totally open to disscussion...!!!!! Older dudes out there correct me if im wrong!!! - Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:02pm Edited: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:06pm | ||
| Nicholas Antoni Marek Gibas User Info... | I really really hate reading reviews these days that are too long winded. Case in point: the JP review in Times Colonist. It didn't need to take a short essay to say what was being said. I think the reviewer just didn't really know too much of Judas Priest going into the show. I didn't know a bulk of the material (I only really know British Steel) but it all stuck and was great as any of the other metal titans (except Metallica who are overrated HA HA). Times Colonist is a joke anyway. What a waste of trees. - Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:33pm | ||
| TheWolf User Info... | Oh well it was a nice picture on the front page...this article sums up similar situations... http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2008/07/23/newspapers/yhuy - Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:54pm | ||
| cattlelist User Info... | The part about Priest being known for very few songs. By who? People who dont listen to Priest? The part about Rob Halford nearly ruining a song or two because of his costume, wow thats obsurd. - Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:55pm | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | yeah I was extremely pumped on the entire show including the silver robe .. but then again I actually "get" metal. - Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:58pm | ||
| The Wolf User Info... | and we were actually on the FLOOR within the front five rows not in a box or cushy seat. The show was well worth my money...I would have been happy going to Van to see that. 2.5 in my opinion is low. That's 50% a failing grade for almost anything else. They Rocked Hard,The Sound was good, They were on Time, Not Drunk, What else do we want? :> The Cat added the last bit to my Link... http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2008/07/23/newspapers/ - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:08am Edited: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:09am | ||
| cattlelist User Info... | If Mike Devlin thinks the way Rob Halford looked, dressed was reason enough to almost ruin a song or two he should take a closer look at the picture of himself they often use/d in the TC and give his head a shake. I got no issue with keepin a long lid and not bothrin to shave for days at a time yet im surprised his employer is ok with the street person look. - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 1:14am | ||
| Yo Mama User Info... | Gotta love all the for/against arguments. Seriously, this is what music should be about. Being that I’m getting fricking shredded both here and over at the TC’s website (and not the KK Downing kind of shredding), I will correct what I believe to be some wrong impressions of my review, for the sake of both fun and argument. 1. I like Priest, though I did not like this show. 2. I did not ask three friends of my mine what they thought and formed my opinion around that. I stopped doing that last year, if you must know. 3. I did not say their set was short. 90 mins. in perfectly acceptable, especially for old geezers. 4. In describing metal “from Slipknot to Sabbath,” I simply chose two ends of the spectrum to illustrate a point. Slipknot is not my favourite band, although I believe they are great. No, I do not walk around with clown make-up on, though that may not be a bad idea. I could envision myself as a maggot. 5. I did quite a bit of research in advance of the show and for my interview with bassist Ian Hill. That research, however, did not include delving too deeply into Nostradmus, which is one stinky piece of sh*t. 6. I actually do “get” metal. It does not “get” me, sadly. We’re working on repairing our fractured relationship that took a turn for the worse when I questioned the metalness of Priest. 7. I was not reviewing the concert from the floor, as much I would have liked to. I have not yet mastered taking notes while in a circle pit. But when I do…I will own the general admission floor, pen and note pad in hand. That would be metal as f*ck. 8. I have to agree with one of the friendly posts. “(Priest) rocked hard, the sound was good, they were on time, not drunk, what else do we want?” I think Chris Rock said it best – “What do you want, a cookie?” They are SUPPOSED to be all of the above. I need more from a band than showing up on time and being sober. Except from Shane MacGowan, whom I expect very little of. 9. I understand diehards were excited about the set list. I. Under. Stand. 10. No. I have not “administered (my) own personal vocals test to determine his octave range now.” If I could do that I wouldn’t be working at the TC, rather, some high-tech firm.. But even a ‘pseudo-reporter’ such as myself knows Halford is no longer a three-octave singer. He is not, as Terry over on the TC board claims, “better than ever before.” That is pure folly, Terry. Surely you jest! 11. Yes, I did want to enjoy the concert. No, I do not listen to Poison and Warrant. Mind you, the chicks on Bret Michaels’ Rock of Love are pretty hot, in a trashy, stripper-pole sort of way. Note to self: listen to more Poison. Loose women think they’re metal. 12. Perhaps I am not Hell Bent For Leather. No, I do not own any Bay City Rollers CDs. 13. Yes, you and I were at the same show. - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 1:52am | ||
| cattlelist User Info... | Its interesting that Slipknot was mentioned even tho as 1986 mentioned it shouldnt be about anything else really other than that exact show. It reminds that many bands through history have and will continue to use and even largely rely on image, costumes, make-up et..King Diamond, Alice Cooper, Kiss the list goes on but regardless of looks and image, its opinion, review, people are entitled to em and cheers to Mike for havin the balls to be a critic and stick it out to be critizied right back. - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 2:04am Edited: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 2:08am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Funny. I always thought "Yo Mama" was a chick. - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 3:27am | ||
| stbp User Info... | Anyone recall MD's review of the Spice Girls last year? Maybe Judas Preist should have invited him backstage and rubbed up against him for some photos! - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 3:27am Edited: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 3:27am | ||
| Mike User Info... | The Province gave the concert a C+ http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=baf61274-9521-4b0b-9128-4bf9028c3c0f Although this was a decent show.. It paled in comparison the Iron Maiden's show last month. - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:49am Edited: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:49am | ||
| Spinvis User Info... | yikes... I think its more metal to not care what other people think.. but whatev. - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:09am | ||
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| bad_fairy User Info... | Judas Priest ripped Mike a new one and he didn't like it! Awe! Everybody all together now....AWE! Mike's been writting the same shitty/bias articles for years now....talk about old and boring! And cheers to the person that commented on Mike's review of the Spice Girls! Excellent point! So glad that we get to have differences of opinions...cause if my head was as far up my ass as Mike's...well then I'd just pack'er in! KK's fucking solo on The Sinner....will continue to sustain me in awe for years to come!! - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:01pm | ||
| Yo Mama User Info... | Does a movie critic review only Martin Scorsese movies, and not those by Michael Bay? So I reviewed the Spice Girls AND Priest. Some would look at that as open-minded. - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 4:17pm | ||
| bbjones User Info... | The Province review got it right and understood what actually happened at the show. Mr Devlin did not. It's that simple. - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 4:31pm | ||
| Kivarenn82 User Info... | i had a good time at the JP show. a review to a newspaper i have no subscription to won't convince me otherwise or offend me because the reviewer perhaps did not enjoy himself as much as I did that night. the review is what it is! did he review anything about testaments' performance? - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 4:36pm | ||
| stefan User Info... | You guys should really stop whining. What would the "Metal Gods" think of you're trite girlish bitching (Har). Devlin wrote a decent article. It was an opinion piece and he was right. Priest is long past their expiration date. Rockstars age. Sorry to break it to you. They are not immortal. they are human beings dressed in silly outfits. Some even ride motorbikes on a stage or carry a menacing looking staff. Ooooh. I think it's refreshing to hear an honest review. Consider what other publications do such a thing when it comes to music. Monday is totally complacent and won't say a negative word about any band. Absolute "I'm gonna write about how drunk/stoned I was instead of the band" Underground? Nope. completely partial to the Vic-metalhead fishbowl. You guys have to fucking relax. You sound like babies. I am a HUGE metal fan, but have always thought priest was an embarrassment to the entire genre. It's my opinion. Whining won't change it. - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 5:01pm | ||
| 1986 User Info... | no dude, the point is that the article sucks...like was just mentioned..HE DID NOT EVEN MENTION TESTEMENT..!!! the The Province artice is a proper REVIEW. i can tell what happened at that show and could have an informed conversation with someone about that show. the TC review was poor, uninformitive, corrupted by opinion, and poorly written. oh well. also, "Does a movie critic review only Martin Scorsese movies, and not those by Michael Bay? So I reviewed the Spice Girls AND Priest. Some would look at that as open-minded" Isn't that your job??? who is questioning your taste???? - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 6:34pm | ||
| 1986 User Info... | also, stefan: "What would the "Metal Gods" think of you're trite girlish bitching (Har)." WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THIS. IF YOU ARE SO INTERESTED ASK THEM AND FORWARD THEIR REPLY. - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 6:36pm | ||
| 1986 User Info... | also, also also, why are you posting here stefan...you clearly do not like metal: "I am a HUGE metal fan, but have always thought priest was an embarrassment to the entire genre" HAHAHAHAHHAHA PREIST ALMOST INVENTED METAL AND YOU ARE CALLING THEM AN EMBARRESMENT AHAHAHAHAHAH STOP LISTENING TO METAL YOU CLEARLY DONT LIKE IT AND ARE DOING IT TO PRETEND TO BE COOL HAHAHAHA (im really enjoying this, livevic has been boring lately) - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 6:40pm Edited: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 6:41pm | ||
| 1986 User Info... | also also also also also "yikes... I think its more metal to not care what other people think.. but whatev" sorry....but... conflict and resolve are metal are they not??? this really bothered me (as i explained in more detail earlier) and so i made a post on livevictoria where people i know check etc etc. - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 6:43pm Edited: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 6:44pm | ||
| 1986 User Info... | might as well... 'Metal gods' Judas Priest a tad short on material Band's songs lack staying power of Metallica, Black Sabbath tunes Mike Devlin, Times Colonist Published: Thursday, July 24, 2008 REVIEW What: Judas Priest with Testament When: Wednesday night Where: Save-on-Foods Memorial Centre in Victoria Rating: 2 1/2 stars (out of five) Quite a bit separates British heavy metalheads Judas Priest from Iron Maiden, Metallica, and Black Sabbath, its closest competitors in the race for the heavy metal crown. After years of self-imposed headbanging, shredding on air guitar, and brow-beating friends over who's better Sabbath or Metallica we've whittled Priest's imperfections down to one very important shortcoming: Good songs. Diehards will argue vehemently that Judas Priest are giants among men, noteworthy for nearly 40 years of service tried and true. Allow us to interject: You're wrong, people. Priest were great; that was between the years 1980 and 1982, when Screaming For Vengeance and British Steel killing were everything in sight. These days, the band is notable for what it was, not what it is a sliver of its former self. The quintet from Birmingham, England, is lacking the core material that seems to flow from every pore of Maiden, Metallica, and Sabbath, its heavy metal ilk a cluster of songs which even passing fans appear to know and love, and yearn to hear performed decades after their release. Metallica, Maiden and Sabbath can each draw on four great records for support, even when new material lets them down. Priest has a great many classic recordings under its bullet belt, but not everything the group threw against the wall stuck Wednesday night at the Save-on-Foods Memorial Centre, the first of the band's eight Canadian dates this summer. Breadth wasn't the problem. Priest's set lasted 90 minutes and encapsulated the 31 years, from 1977's Sin After Sin to 2008's Nostradamus. The band opened with two songs from the latter effort, Dawn of Creation and Prophecy, two of the better songs on the muddled concept album. But towering singer Rob Halford almost ruined the songs with a goofy costume accented by a staff (or was it a wizard's wand?). Metal Gods, which followed, was far more effective, as it employed the ample dual guitar attack of guitarists KK Downing and Glenn Tipton, who were standouts throughout. As a matter of fact, everyone in the band was solid. Halford, who is not the singer he once was, still has stage presence, even riding astride a motorcycle prior to Hell Bent For Leather; same goes for bassist Ian Hill and drummer Scott Travis, who pounded his kick drum on Eat Me Alive with enough zest to crack the venue's concrete foundation. All were in great shape, musically and physically, and the spirit was hardly lacking. The 18 songs which comprised the setlist, capped by a rousing rendition of You've Got Another Thing Coming, was another matter entirely. Priest is known for very few tunes, most of which they played last night, before 4,100 fans, including Breaking the Law and Painkiller. But by leaving out of its set Screaming For Vengeance, Living After Midnight, and Love Bites, the band did itself a disservice. The group chose to add in old songs that have been out of the set for a while, such as Between the Hammer and the Anvil (from Painkiller) and Dissident Aggressor (from Sin After Sin). Both were expertly played, and rocked in spots. But the vibe wasn't there. It isn't the way metal gods are supposed to behave. - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 8:02pm | ||
| 1986 User Info... | i love this: "the core material that seems to flow from every pore of Maiden, Metallica, and Sabbath" yeah like these bands are 100% perfect bwhahaha SAINT ANGER hooo SAINT ANGER the reincaration of benjimen who???? sabbath - 1970-1980....2008...nope long dead - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 8:04pm | ||
| evilkleg User Info... | I have a question for Mike Devlin: (I am assuming your ticket was free. Correct me if I'm wrong.) Would you have gone to Judas Priest if you had to pay for a ticket? Discuss. - Fri, 25 Jul 2008 8:20pm | ||
| stefan User Info... | Hey 1986 (I'll presume your nick is inspired by the fact that you are perpetually stuck in that year.) I have to like Judas Priest to like metal? Really? I didn't sign up for that. I hear bands, I like some - some I don't. It's music. Not a volume of encyclopedias. I don't need nor want every single one. I like Punk Rock too. Does this mean I have to like EVERY supposed Punk Band that people like to reference as an "important band"? because hey - I hate Bad Religion. I don't care if it's seen as contemptible. "STOP LISTENING TO METAL YOU CLEARLY DONT LIKE IT AND ARE DOING IT TO PRETEND TO BE COOL" Dude, liking metal really isn't a gold ticket to "being cool" - if anything, it'll isolate you. I listen to it for my own reasons, not for approval. Maybe you should just stop sounding like a bitch. You claim the review was poor, uninformative, and corrupted by opinion, and poorly written. Quoted here: "the TC review was poor, uninformitive, corrupted by opinion, and poorly written." I repeat: "the TC review was poor, uninformitive, corrupted by opinion, and poorly written." Let's think about who has been writing poorly here, and opinion is a bad thing now? Really? Maybe I should give into your linguistic limitations and emphasize my point with HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH - Sat, 26 Jul 2008 1:34am | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | Bottom line is .. if you like metal you have to respect the forefathers of the genre. Calling those who pioneered the genre you enjoy an embarrassment makes you look like you don't know what you're talking about. This obviously extends beyond Priest .. respect!! And, Wow the good old "slag someone's posts based on literary merit vs. rebutting any ideas properly" game ... every debate on the internet descends into that kind of pettiness sooner or later, especially when any good ideas have been exhausted. So what I collect from that is "You can't criticize this article for been poorly written, because I think your internet posts are even more poorly written" What a ridiculous point ... 1986 is posting on a small town local forum while Yo Mama is writing an article in a city wide distributed NEWSPAPER ... believe it or not but there is difference. - Sat, 26 Jul 2008 8:29am Edited: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 8:30am | ||
| CL User Info... | The only thing I know about Judas Priest is that, back in high school, the guys who liked Priest were dorks. The cool/interesting metal fans liked Motorhead and Metallica. I liked the Clash and Husker Du, who were way better than any of them. Now I love Motorhead, and can take or leave Metallica. But Priest still sucks. I've learned to tolerate Priest fans, though - and it sure seems like they liked the show! So why don't they lay off poor old M. Devlin? He's just a guy like other guys - puts his pants on one leg at a time, likes a cold beer on a hot day..... - Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:13am | ||
| adrian User Info... |  Priest fans equal (see image enclosed). - Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:22am Edited: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:24am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Husker Du, lol, there's a band I haven't thought of in awhile. Right on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8ibhXGWVJ0 - Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:32am | ||
| 1986 User Info... | to requote mutilashawn: "Bottom line is .. if you like metal you have to respect the forefathers of the genre." You dont have to like them, but you have to respect them, ya dig? - Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:44pm | ||
| Nicholas Antoni Marek Gibas User Info... | I dont like the Velvet Underground, but I respect them. See how that works too? Annoying people usually completely discredit bands that help formulate certain styles of music. I hope none of you are those people that "hate" the Beatles. Listening to music without doing your homework just sets you right in with the rest of the passive listeners. Be a little more active in this great art we know as music. - Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:20am | ||
| Tyler User Info... | This thread is fucking boring. It still boils down to the simple fact that you had a different experience than the reviewer, and are trying to justify your own as being more valid than his. A review can do or say whatever it wants. I read one review of an album that only discussed the cover art and nothing else. Is that a bad review? I didn't think so. It was different and enough of the thematic material carried across to get an impression of what the reviewer thought of the album. Same goes for this. You get a good idea of all the reviewer's thoughts after going to the show. He didn't get all testosterone-pumped at the parts you did? So what? There are a million things to write about, and I appreciate the review as an entity unto itself. There were plenty of positive comments that balanced it out. How whiny can you get that not everyone has the same taste you do? When I saw the most recent X-Men movie, for example, I thought it was a shitty piece of multi-million-dollar special effects. Meanwhile, a bunch of people praised the storyline. They're shitty reviewers then, right? They have no right to state their opinion on a movie's story, right? I can't believe how narrow-minded these complaints are. - Sun, 27 Jul 2008 7:05am | ||
| Zedius User Info... | It literally hurts my mind to read most of these pro Mike Devlin posts. It was obviously a bad, weird, biased review like most of his other reviews I've read. From a guy who wasn't at the show and doesn't really care about Judas Priest, this review is horrible. It's not Judas Priest's fault that Mike Devlin only likes the hits. I'm sure that a ton of other people at the show actually wanted to hear a bunch of their other shit. Anyways, how many hits does Testament have? Origin? Carcass? All these other bands that everyone's incredibly stoked about don't do shit on the radio. - Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:38pm | ||
| the jak User Info... | reading the t.c. for a review of the priest show?....might as well have gotten a review from the martha stewart show...putting slipknot in the same scentence as priest and sabbath?...c'mon - Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:39pm | ||
| mark! User Info... | break your priest records and listen to euro terrorcore. its a superior genre. get down.... ..smoke weed. - Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:32am | ||
| denny User Info... | Let's answer the real questions here people. Was that flamer wearing leather chaps during the show? - Wed, 30 Jul 2008 1:06am | ||
| Destroy_The_Flesh User Info... |  To even type that tells a lot about where you come from, Lets say every Priest fan's comment on live vic is all crying, then its got more to do with Live victoria than Priest Fans.I wouldn't put too much stock in anything on here, its about 30 to 50 metal heads in total and thats being generous, real life is still outside... - Wed, 30 Jul 2008 7:53pm Edited: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 7:58pm | ||
| 1986 User Info... | whoa that posters rules... you know what else rules....jazz flute....fuck yeah - Fri, 1 Aug 2008 8:20pm | ||
| Akylore User Info... | http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/go/story.html?id=d6b9789a-fbe0-4a4b-94f3-fa25271a4d2a Well, I don't fully agree with 1986 on quite a few things - for example, a review is going to be opinionated, because it's someone's opinion, simple as that. But I think anyone with the ability to read, with a high-school level understanding of English can clearly see that close to the first 1/2 of this 'review' was really not a 'review,' but a 'pre-cursor' as to the reviewer's 'appreciation' (or lack of rather) for Judas Priest. If anything, it really just explains 'where he was coming from' with the review. So I'll approach the first half: I can understand why some people would compare Priest to Sabbath, Maiden and Metallica, because....even though to me they're apples and oranges - those were the 'bigger' bands for the "80's to early 90's" time period in North America. Unless you were an avid collector of underground fanzines and metal mags, with the lack of internet back then, it would have been hard to find other bands of similar sounding genres. But come on, I'm sorry....SABBATH obviously laid the groundwork for some death metal, some black metal, and of course - true doom metal. IRON MAIDEN and PRIEST were on the forefront of the NWOBHM scene, so if they're going to be compared to 'the greats,' I would have mentioned bands like SAXON, TRESPASS or DESOLATION ANGELS. And as for METALLICA (haha,) well....I still clearly remember the interview with Cliff Burton (you know, when Metallica actually WAS Metallica,) from the "Cliff 'em all" video - he flat out stated that they recognized the 'wave of heavy metal coming from Europe,' when commenting on their band development. So if anything, Metallica (Cliff Burton-era) owes their 'influence' to these greats (yes, I'm daring to refer to Priest. And Maiden too - fuck, even THIN LIZZY was huge to them.) How can DEFENDERS OF THE FAITH and PAINKILLER be excluded??? OK, I'll admit, I guess I'm being 'opinionated' (sorry again 1986,) as PAINKILLER was my first metal album, so there is some sentimental value to that....but come on, seriously, how can Judas Priest's noteworthy catalogue be limited to Screaming For Vengeance and British Steel??? I can't wrap my head around the notion of Judas Priest's shortcomings lying in the 'lack of good songs,' (I'm guessing that's what was meant - I don't see shortcomings in 'good songs,') and obviously if the reviewer things 'good songs' is a shortcoming of theirs, you can't expect a good review! But anyways - on to the latter half: This is where I actually disagree with both Yo Mama and 1986. They put on a good show, but I'm sorry, it's not the same. I take my hat off to Judas Priest for playing as well as they did, especially for their age, but they are getting old. When they were playing HELL PATROL, I was like "Fuck! Where's all the high pitched screams?!?!" Even two years ago in Vancouver he was singing higher more frequently than this show. But hey, he's 56 now, and with the sad state of others such as Ozzy Osbourne, you really can't help but commend Rob for delivering the power that he did, as he still is a good singer, be it mid-range. They played classics that are always great to hear: Electric Eye, Breaking the Law, You Got Another Thing Coming, Painkiller, etc. Good show, just not what I expected. I don't know what other "way these metal gods were supposed to behave," but again, that's my opinion.... Blah... - Sun, 3 Aug 2008 7:16am | ||
| DOOMHAMMER User Info... | Who the fuck cares. I dont like priest, iron maiden, sabbath, blah blah blah, but it would probably be pretty damn fun to watch them. I really dont understand why a review has to not have an opinion. If reading one sided opinions make you angry I would really suggest looking for something other than the times colonist, province and sun. Pretty sure the province and TC called slipknot the undisputed heaviest metal band in the world when their last cd came out. - Sun, 3 Aug 2008 3:14pm | ||
| Mike User Info... | Best Judas Priest album = Stained Class but thats just my opinion. Of course.. they didnt play a single song off that album. So it was a horrible failure of a show. - Mon, 4 Aug 2008 9:59am | ||
| James User Info... | This thread is stupid. Reviews usually are biased. If they weren't biased there wouldn't be a need for multiple reviewers. There could be just one guy who travels the world reviewing everything and we would just take his word for it. I thought the show was great and thought Priest was amazing. I'm really not their biggest fan and I wasn't even all that excited about going. - Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:51am | ||
| zippgunn User Info... | Hey 1986: Priest formed in 1970 and weren't in their familiar format until 1973 (when Halford joined and they released the odious Gull LP's); not until two albums in (and their contract with CBS in 1977!!) did they hit their stride. Sabbath formed in about 1967 (as "Earth") and their first album appeared with their sound fully formed in 1969. IMO Priest are terrible (and I have even listened to the Fight records and the Two records, all crap). I respect Halford as the first out front metal queer but that's it. I think they are lame and this whole tour is nothing more than a cash grab aimed at well heeled nostalgic suckers. Sorry. - Tue, 12 Aug 2008 2:23pm Edited: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 2:28pm | ||
| 1986 User Info... | to requote myself from earlier in the thread: Priest formed in 1967 KK Downing and Ian Hill joined in 1969 Halford joined in 1973 Tipton joined in 1974 Rocka Rolla came out in 1974, it was supposed to have Tyrants, Genocide, and The Ripper on it. - Tue, 12 Aug 2008 2:54pm | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | "this whole tour is nothing more than a cash grab aimed at well heeled nostalgic suckers" UHHHHH and every other "retro" metal band tour isn't?? - Wed, 13 Aug 2008 6:45pm | ||
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