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Ball Gag N' Chain Gang
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Seriously, why? Does your life really suck that bad. I mean seriously this is a beautiful place, in a over privilaged country. So no one understands your pain in the suburbs...Get over it. - Tue, 8 Jul 2008 6:50pm
DTjackson
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Emo is a religion. Emoligion. - Tue, 8 Jul 2008 9:17pm
Ball Gag N' Chain Gang
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http://www.hecklerspray.com/all-crying-self-harming-emo-children-to-be-banned-in-mother-russia/200815394.php

Now this is awesome. - Mon, 28 Jul 2008 8:56pm
DTjackson
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What will they do to the remaining emos? Commit emocide? - Sat, 2 Aug 2008 4:18pm
Brett F
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thats really silly... emo kids should live free. who else would come to our all ages shows? - Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:12pm
Gravedigger
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leave the emo kids alone...

after all , they're only hurting themselves. - Sun, 3 Aug 2008 1:16pm
Andrew
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(i dont like emo) but you could say the same about punk, metal, lots of white blues, etc. - Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:30am
DTjackson
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I want to see how far emo goes. I want to see these people in their 50's when they have kids. - Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:06am
Jl
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... comparing emo to blues? maybe emo to metal.. tight jeans; a hate on for everything thats not black(the color). But blues? come on, at least the old bluesmen from back in the day had it rough... Its not like someone stole their Ipod or said aloud that they like My Chemical Romance. Fucking emo kids, the one's with the chains and the sweater vests. - Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:29am
Andrew
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lol yea...but some of the guys up there singing the blues these days have it just as good as the emo kiddzzzz - Sat, 9 Aug 2008 9:18am
JDL
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then is it really the blues they're singing about? - Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:59am
Troy
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emoooz is cool - Sat, 9 Aug 2008 3:39pm
Bryan
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Slint are a really good band - Sun, 10 Aug 2008 7:56am
Tyler
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same goes for Braid - Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:59pm
Nicholas Antoni Marek Gibas
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Societal pressures always make little kids brash out into all sorts of odd social standpoints and ideas. - Fri, 15 Aug 2008 1:21am
Hang The DJ
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I just can't stand the "scene kids".. The girls with the long mullet-esk hair that's all spiky at the top (with the little bow on the top, of course).. with their bright American Apparel hoodies and yellow pants..

I really can't help but laugh every time I pass them outside the Bay Centre mall with all those other kids.

"Emo" kids aren't really upset, they're just putting out an image. Emo's piss me off just in the way that most of them are fucking attention whores. They're just like all the other kids that want to fit into a group and be popular. - Sat, 23 Aug 2008 11:36pm
evilkleg
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. - Tue, 26 Aug 2008 4:49pm
KnifeGhost
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What the fuck is emo? - Wed, 17 Sep 2008 5:33pm
trevor corey
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7IxliAPjAk - Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:24pm
Zedius
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Does anyone really know what emo is? Wasn't it emotional hardcore, like back in the early 90s? Didn't it actually die out in the late 90s?

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think emo even exists. It can't be compared to punk or blues or metal. All subcultures are watered down, but there is no pure emo that I can see. You can show me true punk, true metal, and true blues, but try to show me some pure, legitimate emo.

Emo as it exists today, many years after the death of the tiny subculture that never even hit the radar, is completely fabricated by the recording industry. Yes, I know it's been done before, but the difference is that emo is COMPLETELY fabricated. It's not some sort of watered down extrapolation of something.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong. - Wed, 24 Sep 2008 9:22am
Tyler
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okay, you're wrong. but only partially. the so-called mainstream emo is just a buzzword to describe pop-rock packaged into a different marketable image. you got that part. but it's generally accepted among fans of the diy strains of emo that it sort of branched from the rites of spring / embrace thing into the lighter style (braid, cap'n jazz, etc) and the more abrasive (indian summer, portraits of past, etc). these were still completely part of the punk traditions of putting out 7"s and playing in small venues and mail order and everything. victoria, in fact, had a couple bands like this in the mid nineties. check out the republic of freedom fighters and (some of) render useless. there are still plenty of bands playing stuff like this. obviously as time has passed, a lot more happened. like the term screamo is often used to describe the screamier heavier strain. some people just lump it into hardcore to separate from the words adopted by the tv/radio bands.

this is worth reading, although it has some misinformation and (like most of the writing on the topic) is pretty opinionated:
http://www.fourfa.com/styles/index.htm
also relevant, from the same site, about records:
http://www.fourfa.com/topten/index.html

is it dead? some would say it sort of is, all this really died down around 2003. there are still a bunch of active bands. I'm less familiar with the lighter side but I know joan of arc are still kickin' (kind of a more "indie rock" approach), I think there's a band called algernon cadwallader or something that sounds like a cap'n jazz ripoff. as for the screamier side, portraits of past just played a set of reunion shows. and a bunch of bands are playing and putting out records... envy, la quiete, raein (just reformed), phoenix bodies, logs, cougar den, comadre, kidcrash. the list goes on.

I want to end this with one last question. has the definition of emo changed, now that 98% of the population has been exposed to the commercial falsity? I'd like to believe that a lot of the bands I listed -are- "pure emo", not that anything is that easy.

I don't normally get into this because it always sparks a giant debate and it's easier to just like what I like, let people call things whatever they want, and such. why bother getting worked up? the people who like this music will gravitate to it. and the people who like arm socks and predictable song patterns will stick to muchmusic and hmv. it's not like there's something to prove to the masses. the best punk music (in a broad sense, in all its forms) comes from people with nothing to prove anyway. - Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:19am Edited: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:26am
Swingin' Joe
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I stopped giving a shit when some folks were calling At The Drive-In emo. - Wed, 24 Sep 2008 5:22pm
Zedius
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Thanks for the good info, Tyler.

I didn't really mean to imply that there wasn't any legitimate emo, even though that's exactly what I said :), but that the 'emo' that exists now isn't based on anything legitimate. It seems like it's just a name. Does my chemical romance have anything in common whatsoever with rites of spring?

I'm not trying to get worked up, I've just got an interest in music history.

As far as calling At the Drive-In emo, that's a fashion thing right? Tight pants and fluffy hair... - Thu, 25 Sep 2008 8:22am
Tyler
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I'd like to think that they have nothing in common. however, I wouldn't be surprised if they claim that they "drew some inspiration" from Sunny Day Real Estate, who in turn apparently drew inspiration from Rites of Spring and credit them with pioneering the genre. but SDRE were on Sub Pop, got progressively more poppy, so I see it more as an abandon of any connection they had. but seriously, stuff like MCR is so far removed and exaggerated that it's irrelevant.

same thing sort of goes for At the Drive-In. they list Fugazi as an influence, who are essentially a combination of the frontmen of Embrace and Rites of Spring playing under a different style.

it's funny, because the bands tend to get more popular the further they are from the core associated acts. - Thu, 25 Sep 2008 8:43am
JDL
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who cares? its fucking EMO music.
I lost my chains and my sweater vest A LONG TIME AGO. - Thu, 25 Sep 2008 1:20pm
Nicholas Antoni Marek Gibas
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Phoenix Bodies are not screamo. - Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:58pm
Tyler
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oh whoops! disregard everything! - Tue, 30 Sep 2008 9:19am
Tambo
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I like HMV... - Wed, 1 Oct 2008 5:29pm
Tyler
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me too! it's a really convenient store that stocks a lot of stuff I like! just not generally in this particular vein. although they did have an I Robot cd once... - Thu, 2 Oct 2008 8:20am
Reece oi
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rites of spring and embrace were amazing - Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:37am
darcy
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band. - Thu, 23 Oct 2008 2:25pm
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