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trevor corey
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MY FUCKING EARS ARE RINGING REALLY BAD, WORSE THAN EVER ACTUALLY. THEY WERE RINGING PRETTY GOOD AFTER SNFU, BUT THIS IS KINDA FREAKING ME OUT. - Sat, 19 Apr 2008 2:33am
paulyhardcore
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totally need to start wearing earplugs, i finally found a pair and remebered to bring them, i mean, i couldnt hear much after - but there wasnt any ringing, for once! - Sat, 19 Apr 2008 8:01am
Curmudgeon Rocker
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huh?

/had to - Sat, 19 Apr 2008 8:47am
Kivarenn82
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it means your ears have taken some incredible damage.. were you sitting right by the speaker or something?

anyway.. you can go to a doctors nowadays and they have this spray. they shoot it into your ears allowing your eardrums to recover in a more timely fashion with a possibility of no hearing loss afterwards.

of course, prevention is the best medicine. bring your damn plugs. - Sat, 19 Apr 2008 1:04pm
Chopper
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Welcome to the wonderful world of tinnitus! - Sat, 19 Apr 2008 3:30pm
Tyler
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I've heard that the ringing in the ears indicates some little hairs in your ear canal have been damaged and, in turn, you have a reduced ability to hear certain frequencies.

I used to get ringing in my ears at every show when I was 16. I went to three or four a month, sometimes more, and didn't think anything of it. A few months into this, it stopped. I'm still going to about three a month these days, and I've only gotten ringing in my ears maybe twice in the last two years. It's scary. Tonight I was at Sugar seeing Caribou and, while I knew the sound was loud and I was right near one of the stage speakers, I still didn't get ringing.

I think I've caused myself permanent hearing damage. I have trouble hearing friends and I always mishear things people say. It's really scary as a musician, radio show host, and recording technician. I've been really stupid.

I do have earplugs. At this point, whenever I wear earplugs, the sounds are ridiculously muted and not enjoyable to hear in a live setting. When I'm at a hardcore show and shouting along with earplugs in, I can only hear myself. I have a few pairs of silicon molding earplugs that I use sometimes but generally I go without earplugs. I just hope my level of hearing doesn't deteriorate any further.

Thoughts? - Sun, 20 Apr 2008 2:26am
sumyungai
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That's why I avoid bar/ club shows. As an engineer, I know that I mix fairly loud, however with my hands on the controls I am fairly comfortable that I am not doing myself harm. However I've walked into clubs and had to walk right out again because the system and/ or room was emphasizing frequencies that I find painful.

Unfortunately we all have different sized heads and accoustical spaces in our ears, consequently a frequency which may resonate in my inner ear and harm its mechanisms might not cause any discomfort in someone else.

Loud is beautiful, if it's clean! - Sun, 20 Apr 2008 8:06am
laprider
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go to an audio clinic and have some ER 15's made, best couple of hundered bucks you will ever spend....they attenuate not muffle! - Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:55am
Masturbating The War God
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Watch the movie 'It's gone Pete Tong'. It won't make your ears feel better but it's a damn good movie. - Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:16pm
Sati
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Its not smart not to wear protection. I don't drink much, but I do get "sound hangovers". Its too much.

I prided myself on having no problems until I went to Austin and started seeing shows/practices almost every night. After that the ringing took a lot longer to let up.
And I experienced the worst 30 seconds of my life one night at a medeski martin & wood show when I told someone I couldn't hear the bass and she said that it must be my hearing cuz she could hear it just fine. I suddenly felt sick to my stomach and it felt like ages before she finally leaned over to say that she was mistaken and that I was right, it wasn't audible.

Could you imagine losing an essential frequency like that completely??? Just imagine.

Does anyone know, is the damage really irreversable? - Sun, 20 Apr 2008 4:46pm Edited: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 4:47pm
sumyungai
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Ask Pete Townsend. Yes, it's really irreversible (at the current level of technology). Obviously a well designed prothesis will help compensate for specific frequency losses. Good luck! - Sun, 20 Apr 2008 5:15pm
evilkleg
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When I was young I had trouble with my left ear. It was fluid behind the eardrum and they put tubes in to let it drain. 7 TIMES!!! Yes folks, that causes scar tissue and hearing loss. So what do I do? Take up heavy metal guitar and get a job at the airport. Even though I use extensive hearing protection whenever possible the damage is done and it's cummulative. I don't care what WCB says, there is no hearing protection available that will work 100%. Those cheap foam earplugs are actually the best for protecting against white noise (ie: airport) but as a musician, they suck because they cancel too many frequencies. Part of giving a good performance on your instrument is the ability to hear it and be inspired by a great tone out of your amp. So here's my question- Do you EQ your amp so that it sounds good to you and your bandmates with earplugs in, or do you EQ the amp without earplugs so it sounds generally good to whomever may be listening to you without them (and therefore have it sound less good to you)? - Sun, 20 Apr 2008 5:28pm
trevor corey
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WHERE CAN I FIND AN "AUDIO CLINIC" LAPRIDER? - Sun, 20 Apr 2008 5:40pm
laprider
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I get mine on Yates by the Odeon. Island Hearing ? - Sun, 20 Apr 2008 5:57pm Edited: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 5:57pm
trevor corey
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THANKS MAN. MONEY IS NO OBJECT WHEN IT COMES TO MUSIC. - Sun, 20 Apr 2008 6:26pm
Haden
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There's an Island Hearing Clinic at the corner of Fort and Richmond in the medical building across teh road from the Jublilee. They will test your hearing for free once a year (or maybe twice...I can't remember). I go once a year to make sure I'm minimizing the damage to my ears. - Mon, 21 Apr 2008 4:55pm
superslacks
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I can attest to the value of the molded earplugs (or any for that matter).
I got one of the first sets of musicians plugs in Victoria (1995?). My hearing has remained the same ever since.
Consider this; Your hearing gets worse with age, and the damage you cause from loud music makes it so much worse - and permanent.
If you love playing music and enjoying shows, protect yourself.
I had my hearing tested in December, and I have excellent hearing for a twenty-year-old. How many thirty-somethings can say that? It is 100% because I wear them ALL the time.
And if you think wearing them is uncool, think how cool you'll be when you're stone deaf. Every aging musician would kill to have their hearing back. I've lost a small amount in one frequency range, and I would pay serious money to get even that back. $180 for your ears is peanuts, trust me.
Almost as bad (or,according to the person who tested my hearing, FAR WORSE) is iPods. People who listen to their mp3 players for more than 15min/day are doing the most hearing damage. - Wed, 23 Apr 2008 9:18am
BBJones
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I too went to Island Hearing downtown for custom molded plugs.

I got the musicians plugs with the 20db filters for going to shows etc. I found the 20db to be too much. Went back and picked up some 15db filters which are awesome! I can now go to shows, stand anywhere I want, hear things correctly and not cringe when drunk people yell in my ear. I actually just hear them properly.

Highly recommended!

If you don't want to spend the bucks then just suck it up and get used to wearing regular plugs. You do not want any form of tinnitus, it simply isn't worth it. - Wed, 23 Apr 2008 9:29am
superslacks
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The only thing I don't like about the new style is the diaphragm pops out to easily. And they're $150 to replace!
I tried siliconing them in place but that didn't work.
Anyone have any luck with this? - Wed, 23 Apr 2008 9:51am
Hang the DJ
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I've got one of those colds that plugs up not only your nose, but your ears as well.... and it lasts for days. Makes you feel like you've been out to a show each night or something. I bring plugs if I know I'm going to be sticking around for a while, but usually I'll forget them or the plug won't work with my tragus piercing or something. I need to figure out what to do when it comes to regular jamming... I sing and trust myself enough to be able to sing along with the band without hearing them much, but then you only hear yourself and not the song... it sucks... I listen to my old trusty cd player (still don't have an iPod) at high volumes daily, but am trying to cut the volume down, which is hard when you have to catch the bus with loud disrespectful students/prissy bitches and stuff.. - Sat, 26 Apr 2008 4:28pm
K.C.
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There are a couple of products available at L&M that cost $15-$20 and are supposed to allow better frequency response than the foam earplugs. I used to use the orange ones (can't recall the name), and they were ok, but a little uncomfortable. I have the custom made ones from Island Hearing and they are indispensable. - Thu, 1 May 2008 12:48am
mactac
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Etymotic makes some flat-frequency non-moulded ear plugs and they sell for around $25 at audiologists.

I got a pair & they have a perfectly flat frequency response so nothing sound muffled, just a bit quieter. The nice thing is that you can actually hear conversations well even when a band is playing.

They are not moulded so they a little less effective than moulded plugs, but they are significantly cheaper & work "almost" as well. They use the same filter technology as the expensive ones.

Get a pair & try them out.

I use mine all the time. - Thu, 1 May 2008 8:34am
trevor corey
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I got fitted for some today. The lady that fitted me strongly suggested the 25s, but after reading Linc, er BBJone's post, and getting advice from Sumjunggai, I ordered the 15s.
Thanks everybody for all the posts. - Tue, 27 May 2008 2:32am
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