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| Jedi | They sent me to a foreign land What I was there for I didn�t need to understand Following in their steps and boots Telling me what I'm supposed to do With this rifle in my hand I'm supposed to kill my fellow man Just like my brothers before I'm a military man Raised on blood and guts and war I never tried to understand They telling me I'm pretty good By doing what they say I should That�s the reason for these stripes on my collar I don�t care, what�s the bother... I'm just a military man Doing things for what you stand for.. It's what you stand for..... - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 7:23pm | ||
| HHH | hahaha, bet many on this board dissing USA will be scratching their heads on this one. Very good write, lyrics? - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 7:41pm | ||
| Anonymous | brainwashed.... - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 7:47pm | ||
| Mike J. | Yeah! if everything goes well it will prove how brainwashed all these lil protester high school kids really are. Well, we will see after the war is over. - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 8:01pm | ||
| Happy Cat | I'm more interested in how the Iraqi people feel after the Hussans are taken out. The "people" there have been through hell for many years. Many are already very happy about this so-called war. They will have the freedom their government took from them. Will be "very" interesting looking back on this a few years from now. - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 8:05pm | ||
| Anonymous | you think that the protesters are brainwashed!!!! you are a fucking moron Mike!!! who is there to brainwash a protester,I bet your sitting at home believing every word they say on CNN,the U.S. has always been a sick country, from the day the "white man" from europe came over to the country(murdering/raping many natives),through the 30's-50's(extreme racisism towards blacks),and now(still racism),the U.S. is one very sick country.Have you ever heard of a little place called WACO Texas,look it up,the U.S. tested chemical weapons on they're own people killing many,also,U.S.A. has by far the most hand gun murders than any other country in the world,if you want to know the truth,don't sit at home watching CNN bullshit.I suggest to everyone to go watch the movie "bowling for columbine". - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 8:09pm | ||
| Anonymous | Happy Cat,I know that everyone wants the Iraqi people to be safe but it's not going to happen,many civilians will be killed like always in this war,the media is full of lies,don't ever! rely on information from the media. - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 8:18pm | ||
| Anonymous | if you want to know the truth,don't sit at home watching CNN bullshit.I suggest to everyone to go watch the movie "bowling for columbine". - Wed, 19 Mar 6:09pm LMAO!! and you think hollywood is more truthful as a rule? - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 9:08pm | ||
| Anonymous | hey have you SEEN BfC? You wouldn't have made that comment if you had. see it. - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 9:10pm | ||
| bryn | Food for thought.... Our Protesters�and Theirs By Chris Weinkopf FrontPageMagazine.com | March 19, 2003 SOME 20,000 intrepid, peace-loving activists turned out last week to protest against their government, its unjust policies, its war-mongering president and his utter disregard for international opinion. The protest was held in Kirkuk, Iraq�outside the Baath Party�s main administrative headquarters. The demonstrators were calling for Saddam Hussein�s overthrow. True, this protest didn�t generate as much attention as the �anti-war� rallies staged last weekend in a Portland, San Francisco, Washington, and elsewhere, where the America-hating left compared President Bush to Adolf Hitler and pleaded for Hussein�s prolonged hold on power, but there�s an explanation for that�beyond the establishment media�s obvious sympathy for the �anti-war� effort, that is. The main reason we heard little and saw nothing from the Kirkuk protests is that there were no reporters there. The only evidence the world has that the event took place at all is a number of second-hand reports. That�s because Iraq�which assigns an official government minder to shadow every foreign correspondent�doesn�t allow the media access to its dissidents. For that matter, it doesn�t even let foreign correspondents use their own satellite phones to transmit stories back home. That�s how tightly Hussein�s fascist regime regulates the flow of news. And it�s not as though protests are some everyday occurrence in Iraq, complete with celebrity appearances and a flurry of advance publicity. In Iraq, demonstrating against the president and his regime is a serious crime, the usual punishment for which is extensive torture followed by death. At great personal risk, opposition forces have become bolder and more vocal in recent weeks because they�re optimistic that Hussein�s reign of terror will soon come to an end. That�s to say, America�s resolve has already made Iraq a freer place, and the liberation hasn�t even started yet. Still, Iraqi protesters voice their opinions at their own peril. Last week, in the al-Hurriyya suburb of Baghdad, Hussein�s security forces arrested a civil servant for preparing to flee the country. With war only days away, the government has issued strict orders for all civilians to stay put, the purpose being to drive up the number of innocent casualties after hostilities begin. To make an example of this poor soul, Hussein�s butchers tied him to a street pole and ordered passersby to watch as they cut out his tongue�then left him to bleed to death. Relatively speaking, he got off lightly. He could have been forced to watch his wife or children get raped and killed, another of the regime�s more creative forms of punishment. Ann Clwyd, a British Labour Member of Parliament charged with cataloging Iraqi war crimes, reports even more ghastly stories of Iraqi abuses�humans dropped into giant shredders and ripped limb from limb, menstruating women suspended by their legs in a barbaric effort to humiliate them. This is the regime we�re removing, the one from which America�s courageous men and women in uniform will soon be freeing the Iraqi people. It�s also the regime that America�s �anti-war� protesters regularly take to the streets to protect, nominally in the interest of the Iraqi civilians who stand to die in an invasion. For some reason, the protesting set doesn�t much worry about the Iraqi civilians who die every day under Hussein�s cruel reign. To them, dying for fascism is somehow less tragic than dying for freedom. This is the same regime America�s protesters hold out as morally superior, or at least morally indistinguishable, from their own democratically elected government. Of course, it�s easy to make outrageous and morally obtuse statements about your own government in a country that maintains the right to free speech and respects the civil liberties of all its citizens. It�s great sport to denounce your president as a murderer or a fascist when you can rest comfortably knowing that he will never murder you our submit you to fascistic subjugation. It�s a different story Iraq. Another anti-Hussein demonstration last weekend, this one waged by Iraqi Shi�ites in the holy city of Kerbala, was �violently suppressed after the intervention of militiamen loyal to Saddam,� according to news reports. In ethnically Kurdish areas, Iraqi forces have been rounding up young men, Gestapo-style, for fear that the Kurds will mount a revolution once the war begins. �There is a campaign to arrest young people, especially at night,� one 21-year-old Kurd told Knight Ridder. �The other day in the Iskan neighborhood, (Iraqi officials) cut the telephones so people could not speak to each other,� claims another. Yet despite the risks, a good number of brave Iraqis are protesting�and more�hopeful that after a lifetime of oppression, freedom is coming. Saboteurs staged a successful strike last week against the Iraqi railway system. Vandals have begun trashing the ubiquitous Saddam posters that hang on doors throughout the country. Opposition leaders in Kurdish-controlled territories are busily collecting thousands of surrender letters from Iraqi political and military leaders that take effect the moment war begins. When that happens, Iraqi protesters will tremble in fear while hanging on to hope. American protesters, on the other hand, plan to greet the start of the war by tying up crucial police and security services�services that could be needed in the event of a terrorist attack�by blocking federal buildings, deliberately creating traffic jams and disrupting commerce. In Iraq, protesters risk their lives to denounce tyranny. They stand in stark contrast to American protesters who risk nothing to preserve it. The day can�t come soon enough when the Iraqi protesters get the freedom they crave, the same freedom America�s protesters take for granted. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Weinkopf is an editorial writer and columnist for the Los Angeles Daily News. - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 9:12pm | ||
| Jedi | Assholes!! most of you anyway! I saw that movie called first blood (rambo) and wrote a song about it. If the differences in peoples opinions on this board reflect all of North America, then We might be in for another civil war. Thank god actors and musicians dont play politicians as well. I was writing from the way a movie made me feel. Take it for what it is. - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 9:12pm | ||
| Anonymous | "LMAO!! and you think hollywood is more truthful as a rule?",your a idiot,it's not hollywood you retard,it's a documentary by Michael Moore who is far smarter than any of us,watch the movie - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 9:41pm | ||
| Jedi | WTF dude, I said I wrote something due to the way Rambo made me feel. You think Im a retard yet you cant comprehend what you read! - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 9:44pm | ||
| Anonymous | uh, I wouldn't say that he's "smarter" than any of us, but definately more focussed and active than many (me for instance). - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 9:46pm | ||
| Anonymous | LOL! Hey check out the bullshit website that shit article came from - the titles of the articles are jokes in themselves: Why the left loves Osama, Should a patriotic american attend ralies organized by communists? its almost like its parody! - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:34pm | ||
| Jason User Info... | here's an idea - stop double and triple posting shit! Its not even good enough to warrant a single post. And "Happy Cat", your a fucking idiot. "freedom their government took from them" ??? No actually, the US put Sadam in power and kept him there. same as Iran, same as Panama, same as Chile, same as...well, just about every country in the frickin world. pull your head outta your ass, you might learn something. - Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:57pm | ||
| HHH | Jason, you need to lay off the weed man. And stop listening to your stoner friends when their all stoned and paranoid while talking politics. - Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:04am | ||
| Virge User Info... | I only listen to the president because he must be a smart man or he wouldn't BE president, right? Anyone wanna buy a t-shirt? c/o FrontPage Magazine. - Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:10am | ||
| Lurker User Info... | Jason's right. The US has always aided Saddam in the past, now they're demonizing him. Sure he's a fucking asshole dictator, but don't give him all the credit. He's had lots of help. Who do you think supplied the weapons to Saddam when he bombed the Kurds? - Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:13am | ||
| Anonymous | Jason and frazer, Did we miss something? Where do you guys come up with this stuff? - Thu, 20 Mar 2003 1:38am | ||
| Anonymous | "Who do you think supplied the weapons to Saddam when he bombed the Kurds?" If you're talking about conventional weapons then, yes, some of them came from the US. Remember that Iran was a more obvious opponent through the 80's. However, the US did not supply the chemical weapons Sadam used on the Kurds, either in 88 or after the first Gulf War. Why do people obsess about the fact that nations make decisions based on self interest, and that the base assumptions change over time? Yes--the US supported Iraq in the 80's. At the time it made sense. - Thu, 20 Mar 2003 2:02am | ||
| Anonymous | Aren't we supposed to be discussing Music??? - Thu, 20 Mar 2003 2:14am | ||
| Anonymous | No,general chat is for anything - Thu, 20 Mar 2003 2:23am | ||
| Anonymous | Ooooh!!! The light bulb just came on,,,they mean anything...Doh! Thanks! - Thu, 20 Mar 2003 2:37am | ||
| Jason User Info... | "stop listening to your stoner friends when their all stoned and paranoid while talking politics" actually I don't have any friends to talk politics with, that why I vent on unassuming posters on livevictoria. "Where do you guys come up with this stuff? its all pretty basic stuff. I won't bother with details cause you can find those yourself, their readily acessible. You'd understand if you bothered too... -Look at UN security council voting. -Look at annual aid packages given out by the United States. -Take a good look at these aid packages and see exactly what kind of "aid" they give. -See who the IMF and World Bank give their (our) money too. -Look at US congressional hearings, for instance, The "Iran/contra" hearings. after a slight bit of effort you start seeing a pattern emerging. You'd have to be an imbecile to miss it. The only reason you'd argue this is if.. A)you benefit financially from this mode of behavior. (you know, like Rupert Murdoch or Conrad Black, not to mention the CEO's of Boeing or Lockheed Martin) or.. B)your opinion is molded by Rupert Murdoch or Conrad Black. ya so its basically two camps (I love over-generalizations), money hungry whores or morons who, for one reason or another,can't think for themselves. ouch - Thu, 20 Mar 2003 3:13am | ||
| Anonymous | good one, put fairly succinctly. - Thu, 20 Mar 2003 3:51am | ||
| Anonymous | No Jason, now you changed your claim to knowledge. Actually I silent person cleared up your claim. The way you worded things before was a little too broad. No big deal. - Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:06am | ||
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