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What the bloody Christ is crust or crust metal?
| Message Board > Controversy and Quarantine > What the bloody Christ is crust or crust metal? |
| The Grand Poo-Bah User Info... | Pardon my ignorance I'm really just curious, but what's this "new style" referred to as crust metal? I listen to all kinds of metal from thrash to death (ok maybe they're not that varied) but what exactly distinguishes this particular sound known as "crust"? If it even does exist and wasn't just created by some metal nerd sitting alone with a box of pizza and some Napalm Death records (I'm not hassling them I'm just using them as an example)? Someone out there please enlighten me. - Fri, 30 Jun 2006 6:37pm | ||
| Lordpatch User Info... | it's not new it's kind of a 90's thing that came out of the crusty punk block of the unwashed masses which was a progession of the *grung* thing that came out the neo redneck-white trash movement (aka neo-redneck burnouts) as some bourjois (booshwash) kids embraced ghetto & gangsta or thug some did the same to the *redneck*. it was cool to be poor and underpriviledged and unfortunately, poor and unpriviledged often means, to those with privledge, being ignorant (sometimes racist) and uneducated. in reality, being poor, blue collar or a redneck and/or underpriviledged does not mean that one is ignorant or racist with no sense of personal hygene, taste in music or style. the attraction of crust punk or metal is less the music but the lifestyle. - Sat, 1 Jul 2006 9:38am | ||
| Suffuckation User Info... | Holy fuck, you can turn anything into an opportunity to spew your fascist PC garbage. How about getting a job? - Sat, 1 Jul 2006 3:59pm | ||
| kay User Info... | Fucking hell this Lordpatch is pissing me off. Crust metal is more noise than anything, here's the definition, right from wikipedia. In music, crust is an underground hardcore genre related to noisecore and resembling death metal. So it's noisy, loud, and insane. Moreso than death metal as that has sort of melodic bits...ah what do I know, trust wikipedia on this one. - Sat, 1 Jul 2006 4:48pm | ||
| Mordock.the.Benzite User Info... | Wow...Lord Patch's analysis is lacking to the point of flat out retardedness...who would have thought? - Sun, 2 Jul 2006 10:54am | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | Back onto the actual topic...it's basically punk upped in intensity. Lots of "d-beat" too. I'm pretty sure it had very little to do with "grunge" however. - Sun, 2 Jul 2006 3:34pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | And lyrically it's way fucking WAY more pc than anything else. The ultimate crust label would have to be Felix von Havoc's label - Havoc Records, featuring hardcore bands that went back to the early eighties. Featured crust punk bands would be like Crass, Amebix, Nausea (fuck whatever all that "grung" shit is about) and established music as Nik described, and as far as crustmetal being a particular genre......well, flibberty-fartin gosh I spose you could just about hyphenate ANY subgenres together, huh? - Mon, 3 Jul 2006 12:24am Edited: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 12:27am | ||
| Lordpatch User Info... | yep remaining on the crust metal topic and not crust punk (what was gutter punk which was markted as *grunge* which became a 70's retro-metal/rock sound after awhile), it's just a marketing scam as the grand p realizes. there ain't no difference but that the kids who listen to it tend to wear black white threaded stanky clothes with LORDS of PATCHes, is all. "as soon as you realize you are being seduced the sedudtion ceases to be effective" - Mon, 3 Jul 2006 4:00am | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | Ya gotta forget grunge having ANYTHING to do with crust in any way, shape or form. The Seattle band Mudhoney more or less singlehandedly kickstarted grunge which, yes, plumbed the depths of that retro thing (with their "Superfuzz Bigmuff" lp), but it surer-than-shit wasn't crust. If Disorder had heard the comparison, they would've hunted you down. - Mon, 3 Jul 2006 5:45pm Edited: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 5:48pm | ||
| moron User Info... | At the time Mudhoney kicked off Discharge would have been in the unemployment line probably still wondering why backcombing their locks and playing cheezy hair metal had alienated all their fans and destroyed any chance of a continued music career. As good as they were, you gotta also remember how fucking awful they became at the end. Same deal as Death Sentence turning into a cheezy hair band. Though I suppose that now both acts have returned to their roots. I hate the term "d-beat" myself, revisionist it is. Cheers - Tue, 4 Jul 2006 10:15pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | Shameless, omnirepeated plug: new Peruke tune - "Please, Give Generously, Today, to the 'Febreze-a-Crustie' Fund". - Fri, 7 Jul 2006 11:36pm | ||
| NOISE NOT BOMBS User Info... | HOLY FUCK! Where do you guys get your info??? Crust has nothing to do with grunge, little to do with the working class shit, is not redneck, quite the opposite actually, and sure as fuck aint new, nor did it start in the 90's. In 1978 AMEBIX started and created a new style of music by melding influenses if Black Sabath, Hawkwind, Venom, and Motorhead with the lyrics and ethics of the Anarcho-Punk movement, taking primarilly from the influence of Crass. The first truly crust album would have been 'Arise' (1983) by AMEBIX. This genre had no name for a few years and was just called punk or metal, untill it became called either Stenchcore after the Deviated Instinct album "Terminal Filth Stenchore"(1987) or named crust as coined by the band Hellbastard after their 1986 Ripper Crust Demo It was really Nausea possibly the first american crust bands that made this genre famouse by touring the country multiple times becoming perhaspe the most influentail crust band of all (argualbly Aus Rotten). Canada's first 2 crust bands we p[robably Global Hollocaust (from Montreal) and Black Kronstdt (from Victoria,wolf from iskra founded them). The crust sound basically is any metal punk with anarchist or verry pollitical ideas to it. Much crust later adopted and used d-beats, like discharge, this became commonly used in crust most likely from the band DOOM off their Police Bastard 7". Other crust often melds with Grindcore, often using blastbeats. Although lately people are starting to refer to crust as the most common sound of the music, not the lyrical content, and thus bands like Poseur Disposer from Saskatoon are being called Crust, even though they have no lyrical content at all (Seagals are always screwing with my life, cut my break lines, sleaping with my wife, I hate seagals they hate me go back to the fucking sea...) Generally speaking crust music is the most "pc", with polotics of anti-oppression, ending sexism, anti-racism, eccology and often primitivism, anticapitalism, anti-authority, anarchism (anarchism like Mikahil Bakunin, Emma Goldman, crime think, Abbie Hoffman, not sex pistoles or rawanda, which is not anarchism), envimontal, anti cosmetics, anti fasion. Also crust lyrics tend to be not only verry political but reasearched, often spending months writing the lyrics to just one song. Good examples of more local crust would include Mechanical Separation (from here) who mixes a little grind and deathmetal in but is mostly crustcore, ISKRA (also from here) who mixes black metal and crust (pissing off black metal fans severly), Black Kronstadt (No longer togeather but was from here), Mass grave (although their lyrics are not as reasearches as others, and tent to be more simple), Meat Of Mankind (crust/power violence, you decide), Self Rule (from Edmonton, altough they are arguably more just anarcho punk) and so on. Probably about the best example of crust would be the band DISRUPT or perhase seatles SHITLIST - Sat, 8 Jul 2006 2:32pm Edited: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 2:50pm | ||
| Lordpatch User Info... | "The crust sound basically is any metal punk with anarchist or verry pollitical ideas to it." thus, "the attraction of crust punk or metal is less the music but the lifestyle." black kronstadt = iskra iskra = black kronstadt Everybody groove to the music Everybody jam Ahhh, uh oh, hey We've been waiting so long Just can't hold it back no more Creepin' up and down now It's time for me to let it go If you really wanna see What we can do for you Send the crazy wildin' static Sing it (ahhh) Chorus: Jam on 'cause iskra's got it Come on now everybody We've got it goin' on for years (2x) Ahhh, uh oh, hey, oh baby We've got it goin' on for years (2x) Well I'm creepin' up on your LEFT Straight up anarchy when I get with you I get ruthless when I get wet Keep the party packed in my corner Tough like granite to keep the crowd hype Get up on this just to get right What you want is what you're gonna get iskra''s got the special effects, uh If you really wanna see What we can do for you Send a crazy wildin' static Sing it ISKRA!!! Chorus: Jam on 'cause iskra''s got it Come on now everybody We've got it goin' on for years (2x) Ahhh, uh oh, hey (We've got it goin' on) We've got it goin' on for years (2x) Hey, hey, yeah we're iskra, mayn Bridge: We've been waiting so long Just can't hold it back no more (ohhhh) Creepin' up and down now It's time for me to let it go (2x) Jam on, jam on Everybody grove to the music Everybody jam (uh oh) (ahhh) (2x) Jam on 'cause iskra''s got it (Everybody grove to the music) Come on now everybody We've got it goin' on for years (Everybody jam) (uh oh) (2x) Come on now everybody Raise up in anarchy We've got it goin' on - Sat, 8 Jul 2006 7:47pm | ||
| Mace User Info... | 'cheezy hair band' wtf? dem's fightin' werdz! - Sun, 9 Jul 2006 3:16pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | I liked the Poseur Disposer lyrics mentioned in the last post from Noise Not Bombs, despite alot of that post's info already being mentioned in the previous posts. Contempt was another Victoria band - maybe leaned more to punk/hc as opposed to crust, per se, and a short-lived (I believe all-girl) crustier-than-all-get-out band called Insurrection. Oh and of course Bowser Moon too. I don't know if Moron would mind me mentioning his old band Infect in here as well - their demo, btw, is still in my top eight or so Vic demos. /"When I looked into your eyes - all I saw were dollar signs" (heavy Rob Duffy riffage) "DOL-LAR SIGNS!!!!!" - Sun, 9 Jul 2006 11:48pm Edited: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 11:56pm | ||
| jove User Info... | that lord patch thing is weird. thanks to noise not bombs for providing some correct history. gee, some people, who consider themselves hip, sure are out of the cultural loop. crust has been around for as long as underground punk and still people don't know about it. now that's underground!! lets keep it there. - Sat, 22 Jul 2006 12:51pm Edited: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 12:52pm | ||
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