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| Tweek | This band played at Soundgarden The jam session was awesome Gilles was rockin on the microphone It really whipped a race horse's ass Johnny Action Figure Johnny Action Figure Johnny Action Figure Johnny Action Figure - with apologies to Wesley Willis Seriously though, the show was freakin' great. Wish they'd hurry up and finish their damn CD so I won't have to wait two months to get my next fix. - Sat, 25 Jan 2003 5:27pm | ||
| Anonymous | i agree with everything you just said. J.A.F. is the most overlooked band in Victoria. They've got great songs, good dynamics, killer vocals, and on top of it all they're as tight as a toiger. they will be huge, i swear it. - Sat, 25 Jan 2003 6:20pm | ||
| Curious George | Can someone explain to me how Johnny Action Figure can get away with charging $8 cover? WHAT THE FUCK! They are a great, great band, I agree, but I mean, come on. Who sets the door prices? Soundgarden or the band? The Cancer Benefit is $8 and it has EIGHT FUCKING BANDS!!! Every other venue in town (Steamers, Lucky, Thursdays) charges at most $6. Just my opinion though... slag away. - Sat, 25 Jan 2003 7:49pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Admission prices will never be the right price for anyone. Too much for your wallet? Don't go or come up with a cheaper way to drink. - Sat, 25 Jan 2003 9:07pm | ||
| Anonymous | How was grace nocturnal? What was the turn out? - Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:16pm | ||
| Japanese Air Force | Grace Nocturnal ripped ass. I was a GN virgin, and I gotta admit, they're really fucking good. The turnout was good, although we wished it had been a little better, but that's the way it goes sometimes. The crowd was really really fucking *fantastic* though. Very receptive. All in all, we're all VERY happy with the show. I'm glad some of you made it out. - Sun, 26 Jan 2003 1:35am | ||
| bawlz | that was a kick ass show! - Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:14pm | ||
| Tycho Brahe | I'm tired of people bitching about cover. $5 cover hardley pays for the rehearsal space, L&M acounts, strings, sticks, transport, parking, instrament maintainance, and all other band expences. When a band works their collective asses off to play a show for you, the least they expect is a little return for the work involved (and some beer). All you whiners would like to make more money at your jobs, and why not? As it stands a band is pays more into it's self it makes, so just think about that for a minute. - Sun, 26 Jan 2003 2:50pm | ||
| Curious George | When a band works their collective asses off to play a show for you, the least they expect is a little return for the work involved (and some beer). I play in a band that plays shows in Victoria. Don't tell me that $5 doesn't cover expenses. If you can't draw enough people to make money off a $5 cover, then you shouldn't be headlining. Period. Unless you have three bands or more on the bill, you shouldn't be charging more than $6. On any night, at any bar. - Sun, 26 Jan 2003 7:24pm | ||
| Curious George | $5 cover hardley pays for the rehearsal space, L&M acounts, strings, sticks, transport, parking, instrament maintainance, and all other band expences. transport? what... all of $2 gas? parking? $2 for the night (Yates St.) instrument maintenance? isn't that strings? other band expenses? I'm not paying for your beer and drugs. - Sun, 26 Jan 2003 7:29pm | ||
| Milton User Info... | I am not in a band, but I help cart shit around. Yates st parking works if your playing near yates st. But what about all the real venues that are farther away? $2 gas? Where do you live, on yates st? And this is also assuming you already own a vehicle capable of carting all your equipment and band members in one shot. It takes a few hours of work to pack up, deliver, set up, play, take down, deliver, unload equipment. If you can find me 4-5 guys or girls that will work their asses off for hours for nothing more than a pitcher of beer and some applause, e-mail me, I'll put you to work and clap my hands. - Sun, 26 Jan 2003 7:37pm | ||
| another sort | It is really difficult to explain to a band that does not already get it, but maybe this will help: Production and effective advertising. For a band that wants to be able to cut records and tour without starving, or relying on mom or dad, (who can be very helpful, have to make money:not lose it. I think that if a promoter spends $1000 on making a show happen and they have, say... 100 heads walk through the door at 8 bucks a head, what do you think 200 dollars go to after even a week of putting it together. Cover is covering costs of a working band/sound techs/lighting crews/and other professionals that make an audience walk away from a show saying '8 bux well spent'. The rest, I am afraid, is a matter of opinion. I hate going to shows that cost ten bux and are not visibly worth it too, but it can be done well, and without ripping ANYONE off. - Sun, 26 Jan 2003 7:43pm | ||
| the rock king | worth every - Sun, 26 Jan 2003 9:40pm | ||
| the rock king | cent - Sun, 26 Jan 2003 9:41pm | ||
| Sarimi | COCAINE, COCAINE, COCAINE. ITS ALL ABOUT THE COCAINE. - Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:05pm | ||
| Anonymous | bars have been charging 5 dollars at the door forever dudes. haven't you heard of a little thing called inflation? 4% a year. kind of erodes the income a band could potentially make. 500$ per show doesn't cut it in 2003. Maybe in 1991 but not any more. sorry, you fucking punks. rehersal space isn't free in Victoria. Guitars aren't free in Victoria. Recording isn't free in Victoria. Taking the ferry to Vancouver to play shows isn't free. Gasoline isn't free. Merch isn't free. Strings/Picks/Straps/Capos/Drumsticks/Skins/Microphones/Tambourines/MicStands/Keyboards/BassGuitars/etcetcetc....all these things are not Fucking Free. Pay attention. On top of all of this, Johnny Action Figure is worth every penny of 8 dollars at the door. so fuck you all. - Mon, 27 Jan 2003 2:43pm | ||
| mer | i posted this somewhere else on l.v. already, but since this is the show where this happened i might as well write it again. I put my glasses down in the girls bathroom and left them there for about a minute and when i went back to get them they were gone. To whomever thought it would be cool to steal them fuck you. I don't make alot of money and now i can't see--i hope you rot in fucking hell. Mabye if you have a good heart you'll bring the glasses back to soundgarden. - Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:56am | ||
| Anonymous | hey..sorry to say to all you bands that have to pay for practice space..ruff times that must be...and for recording..try out some comuter programs. i no a band that did it that way and it sounds hella good..and its just for now..just so ppl can hear ur stuff - Tue, 28 Jan 2003 9:20pm | ||
| jay brown User Info... | People are unfuckingreal. Do the math, if a band is making five hundred bucks a show, which almost no bands in this city actually make. It's usually more like one fifty or two. Now say there are five people in the band, thats a hundred bucks each. Now they've had to practice two or three nights a week for months on end just to get there, so I guess that they are really only getting paid about twenty five cents an hour or something huh. Oh thats right, then there's the couple of hundred bucks a month for rent on a jam space. Then there is the thousands of dollars on equipment. Let's not forget the years of practice just to get good enough to join a band. But I guess cheap ass whiners would rather that good musicians give up on their dreams because they just cant afford to continue playing music. Or are just working too damn hard because they have to hold down a full time job as well as spend twenty or thirty hours a week playing music. Yup your right eight bucks is way too much to go see them. Your fucking lucky they even climb up on that fucking stage and let you watch them. - Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:48pm | ||
| Ms. xxx | This is for the person who is in a band and thinks any cover charge over 5 bucks is too expensive.You didn't leave a name or calling card.What band are you in?What kind of style(generally speaking)?I would love to check out your show as 5 bucks is usually what I can afford(starving student!).I'm looking forward to your response so I can tell all my friends!Bye for now!!!! - Wed, 29 Jan 2003 2:30am | ||
| Anonymous | Curious George said: - $5 instrument maintenance? isn't that strings? strings?? do you live under a rock? how much do you think it costs to replace tubes, make Long and McQuade payments, etc. Let alone actually OWNING an instrument. Even if you were just referring JUST to strings, if you replace your strings every show (since they break and sound crappy once they've been on there for a while and do 50 shows in a year...that's $500 bucks. you can cut the costs, but it doesn't make it free. hours and hours of time go into being in a gigging band and it's definitely not paid. i.e. hours of loading and unloading instruments, driving to out of town shows, practicing, etc. Most bands don't expect to get paid for their time. It would be nice if playing gigs could cover some of the costs that go into gigging. Like drumsticks even. - Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:39am | ||
| Ms xxx | Curios George.You are an idiot!!You probably have only played in your basement to your retarded cousin if you think cover is too expensive.Generally speaking 5 bucks for three bands gets you shitty bands like yours you dick,and unless your mom drives you to your gigs in the soccer mobile it costs money to go to these gigs and play for ignorant cheap fucks like you.I would love to know where you played because something tells me your extremely underqualified for your opinion - Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:49pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | Geezus criste, I've always loved the way people will complain like little bitches over the differance between 6 and 8 bucks and be more than happy to drop 80 bucks on beer and smokes. Or more. Go to Van and check out a few local shows, then you'll know about spending some money. It's not like there's local shows that cost 25 bucks to get in to, so stop being so Victorian. Little fucking cunts. - Wed, 29 Jan 2003 1:28pm | ||
| Anonymous | i wish all the bands in victoria would fight to have covers raised all across the city at every venue. Steamer's was charging fucking 5 bux back in 1993 for christ sake's! i'm pretty sure that the cost of living has changed since then. - Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:42am | ||
| Anonymous | let's play nice and increase the price. come on guys, everyone knows the sheep will follow. put 'er up to 8$ @ steamer's/soundgarden/lucky/thursday's etc. if the fucking slaves will pay 6$ to hear shitty top 40's @ Sugar/One Lounge/Legend's (etc), i'm pretty sure they'll pay that little extra to hear "insert your band name here" @ one of these venues. you'd be stupid not to agree with me. - Thu, 30 Jan 2003 5:59pm | ||
| jay brown User Info... | Everyone knows that is the truth, but at the same time the bars want to be competitive so they continually undercut each other so that people will come to their rooms. In this city your banging your head up against a wall trying to get higher door prices for bands. - Thu, 30 Jan 2003 6:27pm | ||
| Curious George | All right, I'll admit, I was being a bit of an ass. I fully see your points. I forget that not everyone has the luxury to jam in their own house. You win. Fuck 'em all!! Let's start charging $15 like the DJs!! - Thu, 30 Jan 2003 7:20pm | ||
| alastair // User Info... | I'm assuming you went to the show which somewhat contradicts your moral outrage against an hour of your minimum wage job? An hour of your life ($8) for 4 hours of entertainment? ($8). It's cheaper than going to see a movie that only lasts for 2 hours max. Now you're just going to complain about how much movies cost. *sighs* - Fri, 31 Jan 2003 1:56pm | ||
| Anonymous | now you're are beginning to see my point. that comment about movies tix is a perfect example. - Fri, 31 Jan 2003 3:05pm | ||
| Curious George | No, I didn't stay to see the show. As much as I like Johnny Action Figure, I couldn't afford to pay $8. It wasn't some sort of protest, but the fact of the matter is I had $10 to pay cover and buy a pint, and I wasn't going to be able to do it in Soundgarden. So I went elsewhere. And I make more than minimum wage, thanks. But I would like to note, that tonight, exactly a week later, when the cost of living is still the same, Retrograde, one of the best bands in Vancouver, is playing with Grace Nocturnal and Little Hannah, easily two of the best bands in Victoria. And what's the cover? $5. Wonder how Retrograde can afford to take the ferry, pay off TWO other bands, $150 for the soundguy, rehearsal space, L&M accounts, strings, sticks, transport, parking, instrument maintenance, and all other band expenses? Hmmmm... - Fri, 31 Jan 2003 6:45pm | ||
| Curious George | And the only movies I see are at Cinecenta, thankyouverymuch. - Fri, 31 Jan 2003 6:51pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | 2 of the best bands? That's a matter of personal opinion...... - Fri, 31 Jan 2003 7:27pm | ||
| Curious George | Of course it's a matter of fucking opinion! What is anything on this board other than opinion> Do you honestly think I intended to make a statement of the general will? Fuck man... - Sat, 1 Feb 2003 1:29am | ||
| Ms xxx | By the way curios george retrograde doesn't pay the bands, the bar does.The amount of people who payed still didn't cover all the costs!!I don't know what sort of dream world you live in but wake up!!You really shouldn't talk on this message board because it seems to me you have no fuking idea what you're talking about. - Sat, 1 Feb 2003 5:20pm | ||
| Curious George | It seems to me that you can't spell. So there. - Sun, 2 Feb 2003 7:38pm | ||
| Brian | Just because you play in a band and work hard at and have to pay money for your equipment, jam space, gas, prostitutes etc... doesn't mean you all of a sudden deserve huge amounts of money in return.... it's not like anybody asked you to go out and spend all that money, you are lucky if people enjoy your music enough to pay to come watch it.. to think you deserve money for your hobby to me is disgusting... anyone who decides to become a musician and expects some sort of monetary return is a complete idiot... - Sun, 2 Feb 2003 7:49pm | ||
| Anonymous | i never said anything about getting rich. monetary return eh? i didn't realize an economics professor read this message board. - Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:55pm | ||
| alastair // User Info... | Curious George > I wasn't trying to insult you with the minimum wage comment and I'm sorry if I did. I don't know who you are I was just stating a point. - Mon, 3 Feb 2003 1:00pm | ||
| Curious George | Thanks, but I don't get insulted... especially on this board. If anyone actually thinks that anything said on this board matters, then you've got some issues, and you need to smash your computer and be done with it. - Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:37pm | ||
| the truth | Putting on a show with a popular Vancouver band like Retrograde: Posters 500 @ $.09 each $45 Handbills 1000 @ $.02 each $20 A radio ad: $200 minimum Ads in the paper $50 Bar Staff $300 Soundguy $200 Vancouver Band Guarantee $400 Pay out two local bands $200 Total $1415 250 people @ 5 bux cover $1250 Hey GUESS WHAT, 5 bux doesn't cover show costs, that's a fact. The bar usually has to pay the difference out of drink sales. And that doesn't even count sound eqipment maintenance, overhead for the bar, rent for the bar. Things cost money, don't be so fucking naive. 8 bux is not alot to pay, and it's a fuckin bargain compared to any other city. For the local band, between hauling the gear down, playing, and hauling it back, it's been about 3 hours of their time. For that 3 hours, they get $100 total, divided by 4 members. 8 bux an hour each for the night. That doesn't count the 12hours that week they practiced so you'd enjoy yourself watching them, or the new tubes one of them had to buy for their amp ($120), or the new strings, or the replacement patch cord they needed. And you think it's a HOBBY for people in bands??? If you had any idea about the amount of shitty late nights and practicing when it's the last thing in the world you want to do, you'd know how fucking retarded that sounds. A working band is trying to get their band to the point where it might someday make a living for them. That takes having a full time job to pay for the THOUSANDS of dollars a year it costs to be in an unsigned band, to keep your gear up and running, to mail out promotional packages, to drive to vancouver every other weekend. How can you possibly say you appreciate the music a band plays, but not be able to justify 3 extra dollars to suport the work they've done? YOU DON'T HAVE A FUCKING CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU CHEAP,SELFISH FUCK! - Tue, 4 Feb 2003 1:50pm | ||
| Brian | Man I'd really like to fell sorry for your... but hey if you really want to make a living at being a musician it's going to take a lot more than raising the door price and practicing... you are going to have to go on tour and even then you probably wont make money... the fact of the matter is it's a risky buisness... and often it is thankless... it sucks that you lose money but don't call the people who are helping you live out your rock and roll fantasy for paying 8 bucks selfish... if they don't want to pay eight bucks to come see your band that is your problem not theirs... fucking local rock stars... - Tue, 4 Feb 2003 2:01pm | ||
| big fuckin babies | all of ya - Tue, 4 Feb 2003 2:29pm | ||
| Anonymous | brian, don't feel sorry for anyone. I've never asked anyone for thanks for what I choose to do. And I never said a thing about not being thankful to every single person who comes to watch a band play. I was simply making a statement about the hypocrisy of saying, "I think this band is great, I want to go see them, but I don't want to pay anything." Most people don't give it alot of thought past that, I just wanted to point out the reality of the costs. Food for thought. The industry's thankless, No shit? Re read what I wrote, 8 bux is not too much to charge, and it's a hell of alot cheaper than any other city, people really shouldn't whine when they have it so good. That's all I'm saying. You know how I know that? because I have toured extensively. In Canada and in the States. What about you? - Tue, 4 Feb 2003 2:44pm | ||
| Curious George | Why shouldn't a bar cover some of the production costs of putting on a show? On top of the cover charge, most people are dropping $30+ on watered down hiballs for 5 bucks a pop! You can't dispute that bars make a killing off liquor sales, and some of that money should go back to paying for the bands, since they're the ones drawing the crowd. And as far as other cities charging more money for cover, that's irrelevant. This is Victoria, and when the standard cover is $5-6 at Thursdays, Steamers, Lucky, Soundgarden, etc., people will be a little shocked at an $8 cover for a local band, no matter how good they are. If you want to charge a higher cover, then make like iRiS and head across the pond! If every bar in town collectively raised their prices, then we would all just grin and bear it, but since they won't, then I have the right to bitch about JAF charging too much for as long as I'd like. - Tue, 4 Feb 2003 3:32pm | ||
| Curious George | And let's take a look at the cost of shows in the next two weeks at Steamers, Lucky, Thursday's and Soundgarden, shall we? Feb. 5 The Shitty Beatles @ Steamers - $3.99 Feb. 6 Fat Line, Jell @ Steamers - $5 Feb. 7 Smoked Out Brainzzz, The Sweathogs, Rubber Boot @ Soundgarden - $6 Feb. 8 Better Rhetoric, Formerly The Wizards Of Rhythm @ Lucky Bar - $5 Geoff Berner, Petunia, Steve Lang @ Thursdays Pub - $6 Feb. 9 Velvet @ Steamers Pub - $4 Mickey Christ, Assertion, The First Day @ Soundgarden (All Ages) - $5 Feb. 10 Atomique Presents Vancouver Rockers Speed To Kill, Plus Guests @ Lucky Bar - $5 (Hmm... from Van) Feb. 13 Tim Holland, Jeremy Fisher @ Thursdays Pub - $5 And what was your point again?? Love, C.G. - Tue, 4 Feb 2003 3:40pm | ||
| the truth | seriously, how can you call yourself a supporter of music, or specifically say that you think a band is great, and not be willing to pay 2 extra dollars to help a band afford to continue to be a band? - Tue, 4 Feb 2003 4:14pm | ||
| Brian | Christ you act like you are as impotant as a social worker... If the locas music scene ended my life wouldn't change and i'm sure most people in Victoria wouldn't even notice... get a life rockstar - Tue, 4 Feb 2003 5:36pm | ||
| Anonymous | why don't you stay the fuck at home then? - Tue, 4 Feb 2003 8:51pm | ||
| Anonymous | Brian sounds like a fuckhead LOSER! - Tue, 4 Feb 2003 8:56pm | ||
| Anonymous | are social workers impotent? - Tue, 4 Feb 2003 9:00pm | ||
| Anonymous | "For the local band, between hauling the gear down, playing, and hauling it back, it's been about 3 hours of their time. For that 3 hours, they get $100 total, divided by 4 members. 8 bux an hour each for the night. " actually it's more like load at 6:00 be at the bar by 8:00 for soundcheck that happens 9ish...wait for opening band to play...play at 11:30 finish 1:30...wait to be paid 2:15...go home and unload 3:30.....it's more like 9 or 10 hours. even if you're the openiner, you're still there until the end of the night to be paid. it damn well better be fun..but sometimes hanging around for 10 hours in a bar isn't exactly what you'd prefer to be doing..only about 3-4 are fun. - Wed, 5 Feb 2003 1:25am | ||
| April O (ohmygodareyouintroublenow) | If you entertain them...they will pay. - Wed, 5 Feb 2003 2:57am | ||
| Anonymous | April O and RSBF from Threat of the End - YOU WOULD LOVE EACH OTHER! - Wed, 5 Feb 2003 3:15am | ||
| Curious George | "actually it's more like load at 6:00 be at the bar by 8:00 for soundcheck that happens 9ish...wait for opening band to play...play at 11:30 finish 1:30...wait to be paid 2:15...go home and unload 3:30.....it's more like 9 or 10 hours. even if you're the openiner, you're still there until the end of the night to be paid. it damn well better be fun..but sometimes hanging around for 10 hours in a bar isn't exactly what you'd prefer to be doing..only about 3-4 are fun." Now you're bitching about having to be at the bar for 10 hours? Christ man, if it sucks so bad, QUIT! These are the rules of the game, if you don't like them, take your ball and go home. The reason why I can say I like a band, yet am still unwilling to pay an extra two dollars to support them is because their business decisions have nothing to do with their music. I will still appreciate JAF's sound even if I think they charge too much at the door. It's my opinion, I have a right to it. But don't start bitching to me about what a hard life being a "rockstar" is. Try waking up at 5:00 in the morning and digging fucking ditches or washing fucking dishes for 10 hours. Lots of people do it, and they get a lot less recognition. What about parents? They're on the go all day for NO MONEY. So stop with the "poor-me" act... you should all just be glad you have the talent to play an instrument, the skill to be in a band, and that you're actually getting shows in this town. Lots of bands can't make that claim. - Wed, 5 Feb 2003 2:24pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | No shit, all those reasons that dude was complaining about are all the reasons I started playing in bands to begin with. For most bands that's all there is for them in music, so that's the fun part. Geez.... - Wed, 5 Feb 2003 2:33pm | ||
| Spark | Um, I write and play music for the sheer fucking joy of it. I will never be able to quit working to support my music, so what? To all the bands that are complaining about how little they get payed please list yourselves because I will never go to a show if it's all about the money. - Wed, 5 Feb 2003 5:21pm | ||
| Jack Hoffe | O.K...it seems simple to me. I didn't attend the JAF show mainly due to the price. Was the show packed? If it was, good on 'em. If not, they should consider lowering their prices. If people are going to pay 8 bucks for a local band then that band must have something good going on. It can all be broken down into a reinforcement contingency. In the meantime...can't we all get along? - Thu, 6 Feb 2003 4:06am | ||
| Jack Hoffe | Oh...I almost forgot...I've spent a lot of time learning to play guitar. Will someone please reimburse me? - Thu, 6 Feb 2003 4:13am | ||
| the truth | C.G. You really don't have a clue, what are you, 18 years old? You think bands make money? They don't. I work two jobs and have a 2 year old son, plus i'm still working in a band. Being in a band does nothing but lose money. It's called having a dream. Don't talk to me about real life, you cheap piece of shit. Trying to make a go of a band is way more work than your shitty job will ever be. If you actually are lucky enough to make it big, it's usually because you worked your ass off. You know what the average length of time in the music industry is for a rock band to go from forming to being in the top 40? 9 years. That's fucking 9 years working shitty jobs all week and playing shitty shows every weekend, with nothing but that dream of maybe someday making enough playing music to not have to work a regular job. Guess what, after 9 years, you don't always want to be in that bar every night for 10 hours. You're bagged as shit from working 60 hours that week, it's 2 AM and you just want to go home to see your family, and go to bed. That's the difference between being in a band as a hobby, and being in a real working band. As someone who claims to appreciate a band's music, you still can't find it in yourself to support the band, huh? - Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:44am | ||
| Anonymous | sounds me like your dream is dead... or you are a pretty sad man to watch.... - Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:17am | ||
| jackass | some shameless self promotion here: tim. is releasing their 2nd full length cd on Spawner Records Feb 26th, and it's titled "Chasing The Daydream" which is exactly to the letter what we're talking about here. tim.'s been together for almost 8 years now, and we're still chasing our dreams. We've been around the block, we've done all the bar shows, all agers, late nights waiting to be paid, loading and unloading gear, countless hours of rehearsal (hell, we even built our jam space!), stupid amounts of money on gear, 26 hour drives from show to show, playing for free, playing for nobody, had gear stolen twice, you name it, it's probably happened to us. We dedicate this album to all the other people out there that can relate! BTW, tim. will be playing an all ages show at Soundgarden on Feb 23rd with our friends MONEYSHOT and COMPLETE. Come out and check out our new cd. I dunno how much the show is going to cost, but if it's $8, it'll be because you get a free cd too. http://www.spawnerrecords.com/tim http://www.mp3.com/t_i_m --> songs from the new album up after Mp3.com gets off their asses - Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:38am | ||
| the truth | my dream's not dead at all lots of good stuff has been happening for my band lately, it's just not always easy to keep going, that's all i'm saying - Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:05pm | ||
| Curious George | mr. truth... you are a whiney bitch. I didn't ask for your whole life story. My point, and I still stand by it, is that I don't feel like paying $8 to see a local band that I saw for $4 two months earlier at Thursdays. I don't think you can get away with charging that much in Victoria. Period. No one has rebutted that statement with anything other than "you're an idiot" or "you don't know how hard being a rockstar is". Until you can actually comment on my point without bitching and moaning about how hard your life is, please, shut the hell up. I'm sure you work very hard, I'm sure raising a child is very hard, I'm sure your band doesn't get the recognition that it deserves. That's cool. But it doesn't give you, or anyone else, the right to charge $8 for a show, and expect everyone to bend over and take it. Ok? - Thu, 6 Feb 2003 1:36pm | ||
| mr truth | wow, and you're a cheap, bitter fuck who should just stay at home i'll say it again i'm not complaining about any of it, wouldn't dream of it I love playing music, wouldn't ever even think about stopping doing it. Just trying to offer a bit of perspective as to why they may have charged those 2 extra 'bend over and take it in the ass' dollars. - Thu, 6 Feb 2003 1:46pm | ||
| johnny | the only people who should complain about prices in this town are the bands - Thu, 6 Feb 2003 2:03pm | ||
| mr. truth's son | dad.... I'm hungry.... - Thu, 6 Feb 2003 2:05pm | ||
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