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Counting Heartbeats, Art of Dying and Armchair Cynics at Sugar Good Friday
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Videomaker
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Well let me say this the show was one of the best of 2006 so far. The only thing missing was Peter Gardner. I am sorry I did not take my video camera so I could show you what you missed Peter but it really was a good one. Stills to follow @ http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/Dobros/
So first up is Counting Heartbeats fresh off their 13 song Album with Adam Sutherland. These guys have been burning the midnight oil lately and if the soundman hadn't been asleep at the wheel it would have been near ecstasy!!!
Josh was all on and sweatty n' eveything. Fighting a bit of a cold he was great. Super treat to hear your new stuff guys. Keep it up. Next up the Art of Dying. No offence guys but I was not really impressed. Fairly formula a bit pitchy for my liking and probably good enough for the local scene in Vancouver but over here in Victoria we like our music to be "inspired." Would definitely see/hear this band again when they stop trying to be like every other theory of a Deadman and Schnizelback cover band. Hint for the drummer...."subtleness may help.Vocal harmonies are off and need attention. Last up Armchair Cynics: Never seen/heard this band before but heard a lot of good things about this band. I was very impressed with their energy. They are very talented and among the best BC bands I have heard/ seen in BC. Vocals are tight. Everyone plays well together. It helps that they have in my opinion the best recording engineer/producer on the island in the line up too. (Adam Sutherland). If these guys can't make it in the business then no one can. Overall performance by the cynics gets an A+ from Videomaker, CHB A+, Art of Dying C- and the soundman for the Heartbeats set gets a C- also. Note to self "set levels during sound check and then when the band starts don't go running the light show without ensuring the levels are right. Critics remember the bad sound long after the impressive light show."
A few pics to follow. - Sun, 16 Apr 2006 5:28pm Edited: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 5:55pm
Colin {Sic}
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hey videomaker your old enough to remember when bands used to bring their own sound guys:) I find these days if you want to get a consistent sound from venue to venue it is the best thing to do. - Mon, 17 Apr 2006 6:06am Edited: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 6:08am
Pierce
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No offense, but your photography SUCKS! Not one clear pic. Nice fukin try, but you coulda done better.

I give the Photographer a F- for wasting my time. Wanted to see some pics of my old boys rockin out, and cant even tell which band is which from your pics. When you start taking real pictures, let me know! As for sound guys, If you get John Borys or someone who knows his shit things should go over well. Where is The Wolf? He was easily the best (dependable) photographer. Or how about Andrew Johnson? he is a wikkid photographer as well.

Best Photographers:
Andrew Johnson, The Wolf
Best Producer:
Adam Sutherland
Best Lights:
Dont have a clue - Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:15am Edited: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:19am
Gagg
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i have to agree. do not critic a band C- when you cant even take a picture. whos the wolf? - Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:06am Edited: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:07am
service.
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You are totally right, taking photos and playing music are pretty much the same thing. When you are photographer you aren't allowed to have an opinion, apparently. Actually, I don't think videomaker ever stated that he was a photographer, rather.. a videomaker.

no offense, but i'm glad you got punched out. - Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:44am Edited: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:46am
Peter Gardner
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Andrew Johnson moved to Edmonton (if not yet, he is about to.)

Geez you guys need to chill.

And thank you video maker for the kind words. "The only thing missing was Peter Gardner." Haha. That's totally awesome.

I wish I could have been there, oh how I wish. - Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:51am Edited: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:51am
Pierce
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"no offense, but i'm glad you got punched out"

Thats awesome! No offense but i would say something back. But i can't, cause i don't have a clue who you are. Again, because you are anonymous, you have no opinion. And, i have been punched out many times in my life. What you mean by that is beyond me. Who are you? hehe. Whats the funniest is you had to start a totally new account just to make that comment. That takes guts! Way to go. Just because some chick knocked me out when i was hitting on her the other night doesnt mean you have to make fun of me for it. Are you the Girls boyfriend? Weird.

Giving a band that played well, a C- because he thinks they sound like other bands, well that deserves a returned critique for those god awful pictures. Like seriously.

If ya can dish it out, ya better be able to eat it up! Hell i do everyday. But then again, I am an idiot.

Oh and the Wolf was a dude who i saw at every single show i ever played. Blonde Hair, took great shots. Havent seen him in a while. he was out to a Sonic Doom show a few gigs ago but nothing. - Mon, 17 Apr 2006 5:05pm Edited: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 5:14pm
sonic the hemp hog
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Isn't Videomaker related to the guitarist in the band? I wish my parents gave me such stellar reviews on message boards. - Mon, 17 Apr 2006 6:52pm Edited: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 6:56pm
Atom_Syniks
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That's sad Dad (videomaker), I could have got my friends to do my own review, and they could have taken better pictures. This will look silly so please Dad don't get Kenn mad. He may punch ME out AGAIN. Even though we live together still, you can't protect me at all times from the wraith of Kenn, Dad - Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:17pm Edited: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:49pm
Videomaker
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Guilty as charged!! Yes I am the father. OK OK the pics are really not that great either!! I may even be guilty of writing a biased review but two things still stand.....#1 The Art of Dying really did suck and ....#2 The sound was terrible especially on Counting Heartbeats and oh yes one last thing "Pierce" I am also a musician so I think that might give me some cred for making the review even thoughthough your comment the photos are lousy is justified. - Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:34pm Edited: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:43pm
Gagg
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That is pathetic. You even state that you have never seen em or heard em play. You have been to at list 10 shows that i know of. Secondly, you make an account (it looks that way) to say " i am glad you got punched out". Only someone who was involved with AC would know that. Not once have i come public about the Assault which could lead to criminal charges. The statute of limitations doesnt run out for some time yet. Your son has "promised" on paper (email) that costs would be re-imbursed. Immediately after i got "punched out" i spoke with an RCMP officer at the Airport. A police report was filed. This is after the lead singer (i never mention names) punched YOUR son. This is all fact. So, why don't you leave the negative ctritiques to where they belong............. Your ethic and morale values. This is pathetic. Absolutely sad. You even say that Vancouver Island needs "inspired" music. And again later you reinstate that AOD suck, and the sound guy sucked. Why dont you hurt his business more by saying his name. Stop worrying about your sons career. Thats enough. This is too fuckin unreal. Thanks for the cold shot. Way to go Mr. Cynic.

PIERCE - Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:49pm Edited: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:59pm
aidan knight!
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hey pierce,

videomaker = my dad

sure, he's written some reviews for my shows, but he has no
idea about what you are talking about in that last paragraph.


cheers,
aidan knight (son of don knight) - Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:25am Edited: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:26am
Pierce
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Hey. I don't have a clue either. I always use my Pierce name. I think rumours have been spread enough where some people think they know what they say. Don, i did not write the above. Not my character. No where do i say a thing negative about anything between said band and I. I have had ample opportunity to say anything. As well there would be no confusion as to who Videomake is because i haven't a clue. I guess this is what happens when you get punched in a popular band. I just wanted to go to bed and thought i would surf for a bit. Grief. Really they are a good band. Anyone who feels they should stand up for me. Don't. Unless you know what the fuck you are talking about, Adam's father is a great guy. I had many of beer with him. Case closed for me. Weird thread. - Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:32am Edited: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:41am
videomaker
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So one final remark from me here. First of all I do not know anyhing about someone being punched and even after reading these threadsI am still not sure who got punched out much less care. When I wrote that this was my first time seeing/hearing this band that actually wasa true. I hadn't ever been to a show of theirs. Enough said. - Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:48am Edited: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:53am
XY_SATAN
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Was a great show !!But I may have been a little drunk !!

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Twas a great show and a freaking grand birthday for me !!

Cheers

Lance - Tue, 18 Apr 2006 7:11pm Edited: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 7:13pm
XY-SATAN
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One extra ! - Tue, 18 Apr 2006 7:13pm Edited: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 7:15pm
ryan cynic
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Thanks for the photos guys ! Some cool shots in there . Ryan - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 9:32am Edited: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 9:34am
JasonLove
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I can't beleive I missed all the drama. Let me set things straight. Here are ALL the facts.

1) It was ME (Jason Cook) who punched Aidan Knight in the spleen.

2) We have since worked out our differences and are starting a "black tie social" (rip) tribute band.

3) "Videomaker" gave me the t-shirt I am wearing right now.

4) I have romantic feelings for Adam Sutherland. (Quetions of our "marital status" arose after I was seen with my hand on his backside at the show.)

Thank-you.

-Jason Cook Esq. - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 7:18pm Edited: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 7:24pm
Videomaker
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Thanks for setting the record straight Jason. Posting on Live Victoria is not for the faint of heart. - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 7:36pm Edited: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 7:43pm
Eh_Yot
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I'm sorry but....video dumbass or whatever your name is........that was the biggest most piece of shit post I have ever seen in my life!!!!! You should quit cuz you missed the whole show you fuck!!! The drummer from Art Of Dying tought me more about playing a live show than any drummer I've seen in months!!!!!!! Also.....did you ask why the sound was fucked up?? "I did".. told the sound dude to turn the bass down..."problem solved" ...Armchair rocked!!! they always do....I tell you though....Art Of Dying....I WILL buy there disc thats coming out! Not only did they kick ass but..........cool shits too!! Oh YEAH!!!!!!!! WEST COAST MUSIC YOU SHITHEAD!!!Don't ever slag it!!....we do what we do!!!!Just cuz YOU didnt like it doesnt mean everyone didnt....Maybe next time say...."In my own personal opinion"...fghdfigjdsifj.....I'm done....hope to see you at a Black Hat Villain show soon!!!!!....Tim - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:01pm Edited: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:29pm
Eh_Yot
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BTW.......XY SATAN...were you at the show???....HAHA - Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:33pm Edited: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:34pm
XY_SATAN
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Why yes I was there ! - Thu, 20 Apr 2006 1:53am Edited: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 1:57am
Gagg
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I make more in one day than Adam has in that pic. Looks like he is in his mommies basement still. Time for dinner? - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:58am Edited: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 1:03am
JasonLove
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dear "eh-yot".

1) Since Ray left the company, Ayotte has gone downhill. I wouldn't invest in their drums if I were you.

2) Your opinion is just as valid(invalid?) as Videomakers.

3) The boys from Art Of Dying were good musicans. I found it extreamly painful to hear them making the music they did. They are cappable of so much more.

4) The funniest part of it all is that I am sitting at home taking the time to rebut some metal drummers angry post of behalf of someone else.

I'm not mad! I'm just bored:)

I love you LiveVic. - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 6:17pm Edited: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 6:28pm
Eh_Yot
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My Ayotte's are 12 years old. - Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:13pm Edited: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:15pm
JasonLove
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oh the glory days. - Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:58am Edited: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 1:01am
ricky jak
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WOW!!! You mainstream music guys are serious! - Sun, 23 Apr 2006 4:48am Edited: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 4:53am
trevor corey
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oh ricky your so fine, your so fine you blow my mind, hey Ricky hey Ricky - Wed, 10 May 2006 9:00pm
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