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| Chris Logan User Info... | I want to get some metal for the bar (Logan's) and was hoping somebody could help me with some suggestions for a good solid starter metal collection. I think I know enough to cover the early British stuff and early American, but I need a lot of help with the 90s-present. I'd appreciate if you could give a short description of each band. Not really interested in nu metal or radio crap. - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 9:48am | ||
| ODIN User Info... | Anything off Unique Leader! Hate Eternal and Origin are also of the cool. http://www.uniqueleader.com/ Thank you Chris for supporting metal in Victoria year after year. - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 3:30pm | ||
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| Pierce User Info... | Pantera- Cowboys from Hell Pantera- Great Southern Trendkill Pantera- Vulgar Display of Power Pantera- Far Beyond Driven Pantera- Re-inventing the Steel Damageplan- New Found power Judas Priest- Jugulator Judas Priest- Painkiller Megadeth- Rust in Piece Megadeth- Peace sells......but whos buyin. - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 3:46pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Hey Chris! Next time I'm coming in for a show or whatever, I would be happy to leave you some compilation discs. If you're interested, I'm up for it. - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 4:51pm | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | Dude, for sure. Thing is, I'm planning on putting a bunch of music on a computer & running it from there. We'll still be able to play CDs, though. I guess what I'm looking for is a general overview of the best metal from the past 20 years. I know that's almost impossible to do, but there must be 50-100 records most metal fans can agree on. The reason I'm asking is becuase I grew up on old school punk/indie, so my tastes run that way - I just don't know the good metal. - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 5:17pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Using a computer for audio playback? About time!!! I've been wondering when you were planning since I first heard a CD skipping there. If you need it wired up properly, E-Mail me. I've been dealing with computer audio for at least 8 years now, if not longer. - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 5:33pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | Slayer is also mandatory. - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 5:42pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | SLAYER!!! - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 5:44pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | You'll find that most metal fans can't agree on much. hehe However, old Metallica, Slayer and Black Sabbath are usually widely accepted. I'll work on getting together a bunch of cd-r's for ya and I'll drop them off within the next few weeks. My pleasure! - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 6:15pm | ||
| Aidan Pine User Info... | Dude, go here they've got a list of all of "the bests". http://digitaldreamdoor.com then go to "music lists" and metal is somewhere on there. All the best. - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 6:45pm | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | Cheers guys - yer helping lots. - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 6:45pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | Ignore the Unique Leader label. There's better ones out there with you know, variance in bands. Pick up some SIGH. They're from Japan, and their track record of music blows away majority of try-hard nowadays bands. Imaginary Sonicscape is their best IMO. Sleep is also another band you should check out. They bring back kind of a Black Sabbath-esque sound. Okay, REALLY Black Sabbathy...but if you like tuning out for a looooong time, get their album "Dopesmoker". Lastly, !T.O.O.H.! is from the Czech republic. If you like chaotic, bizarro thrash then you will probably love this band. I haven't heard their newest release, but I know with certainty that "Pod Vladou Bice" is the best that I know of. - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:01pm | ||
| Jesse User Info... |  Anything from - Human - Symbolic - Individual Thought Patterns - The Sound Of Perseverance At The Gates - Slaughter Of The Soul Mastodon - Remission, Leviathan Dragonforce - Sonic Firestorm, Inhuman Rampage Arsis - A Celebration Of Guilt Dimension Zero - This Is Hell, Silent Night Fever MARTYR!!!! - Warp Zone Opeth - Any Decapitated - ALL OF IT! Short list, but all quality. Alot of it is sortof... "easy listening?" metal. - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:50pm | ||
| ODIN User Info... | NO pantera and ignore Gibas. - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:12am | ||
| Jaron Evil User Info... | Death: - Scream Bloody Gore - Leprosy - Spiritual Healing - Individual Though Patterns - Symbolic - Human - Sound Of Perseverance !T.O.O.H!: - Order And Punishment Kreator: - Enemy Of God - Violent Revolution Atheist: - Piece Of Time - Elements - Unquestionable Presence Immolation: - Unholy Cult - Harnessing Ruin - Close To A World Below Dragonforce: - Sonic Firestorm Suffocation: - Souls To Deny Slayer: - Reign In Blood - South Of Heaven - Seasons In The Abyss - Divine Intervention Mithras: - Forever Advancing...Legions - Worlds Beyond The Veil There's really SOOO much good metal out there, and not enough space to mention all of them. Also you might wanna check out these bands: Spawn Of Possession, Tvangeste, Vital Remains, Sodom, Exhumed, Morbid Angel, Hate Eternal, Rhapsody, Lost Horizon, Manowar, Nile, Wintersun, Dekapitator, Immortal, Impaled Nazarene, Onslaught, Cynic, Sadus, Quo Vadis, Severed Savior, Opeth, Nattefrost, Carpathian Forest, Akercocke, Crotchduster, Falconer, Deeds Of Flesh.....blah, blah blah, etc. - - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:13am | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | SHUT UP MITCH. JUST SHUT UP. - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:13am | ||
| ODIN User Info... | Oh and that http://digitaldreamdoor.com is absolute bullshit. It's filled with mallcore radio crap. Why do you close your eyes when we make love gibas? - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:19am | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | I noticed that they have no Darkthrone on the metal 100, Napalm Death is below Rage against the Machine and Mudvayne is actually on the list...FALSE FALSE FALSE DO NOT ENTRY. - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:24am | ||
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| Destroy_The_Flesh User Info... |  The Mentors! You Axed for it - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 1:34am | ||
| SickFuk User Info... |  Cannibal Corpse: The Bleeding Gore Obcessed Sepultura: Chaos AD Roots Arise Metallica: Master of Puppets And Justice for all Ride the Lightning Slayer: Diablos in Musica God Hates Us All The Haunted: The Haunted made me do it One kill wonder Lamb of God: As the Palaces Burn Ashes of the Wake Carcass: Heartwork Necrotism:Descanting the Insalubrious Dozens more... but I'm tired of typing... Other than that, why not all the local metal releases from the last couple of years... there's a couple of dozen albums right there 'ere - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 3:56am | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | "Other than that, why not all the local metal releases from the last couple of years... there's a couple of dozen albums right there" Wow - good idea. I honestly hadn't thought of that, for some reason. - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 8:22am | ||
| Spinvis User Info... | Sounds like a good idea for Mr.Hell to do.. just bring along some comps instead of listing so many cds... just make some CD-RS and bring them to logans containing some of those bands... like SIGH. Like what is !T.O.O.H.! ?? And how can one aquire this CD?? Just go down to Lyles or A&B Sound.. or is it special order?? - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:13am | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | Queen Parliament Funkadelic Cat Stevens Jim Croce this is a good start - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:22pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | Like what is !T.O.O.H.! ?? And how can one aquire this CD?? Just go down to Lyles or A&B Sound.. or is it special order?? I think for their new album they had it at Lyles. Anything else you gotta go internet styles to get a copy. You might like them...they're a mix of grindyness and thrash but totally unique, with wacky vocals. - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 3:23pm | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | Okay - I've just been listening to Amon Amarth for the past couple hours, and had some questions for you afficionados. 1. What style of metal is this? 2. What other bands are in a similar vein? 3. Is this style of metal strictly for pussies? - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 3:39pm | ||
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| Nik Olaz User Info... | Amon Amarth is Viking metal Check out Portal (Sweden) for the same thing basically. It's not for pussies, but more kids just getting into metal basically. I've heard they're a bunch of rockstars in that band though. - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 4:02pm | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | "It's not for pussies, but more kids just getting into metal basically" Sounds like me... I know a lot of bands mess around with Nordic imagery - is Viking a sound as well? Sorry for being such a moron. - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 4:23pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | No it's fine. Viking metal is just a silly title for black/death that lyrically deals with Viking mythology and such. Another band you should really check out, that out-do Amon Amarth is Enslaved. Very epic. - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 6:13pm | ||
| Dr.DoomXXX User Info... | Most bands out do amon amarth. If you're looking for a good starter metal selection try Nile, Cryptopsy, Suffocation, Decapitated, Immolation, Krisiun, In Flames (old shit only), At the Gates, Children of Bodem and Vader. It's likely people will bitch that it's not under ground enough but you can just tell them to fuck off. \m/ ( accept, venom, and slayer are some of the best old shit, but you already knew that.) - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 7:56pm | ||
| XY-SATAN User Info... |  Mr. Hell and Mr. ML7Mike both have been my "Mr.Miyagi" for the last 8 years and have taught this old dog some ..... well?... really ..some old tunes ! lol ! I was lucky to have such good friends and put up with my questions and who introduce me to the year 2000 !You guys rule by the way ! ( and so does this guy in the pic ! Thank you, RIP) But now I'm flying solo ! And one good compilation CD I purchased ( Century media 10th anniversary CD ). It was one of the greatest learning tools to bring me up to date . Discography’s , biography’s puts a lot of stuff in craniological order . Here’s a look http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/2209044/a/Century+Media+10th+Anniversary+Box+Set+Collection.htm I’ll burn you a copy of the 3 CD collection and drop it off at Logan’s . Cheers Lance - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 8:37pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Good CDs of metal?!? S.O.D.-Speak English Or... DIE!!! Iron Maiden-# of the Beast Black Sabbath-Black Sabbath (on vinyl) Megadeth-The System Hath Failed Metallica-Kill 'em All!!! Cannibal Corpse-The Bleeding Six Feet Under-13 Nailbomb-Point Blank Death-Scream Bloody Gore Slayer-Reign in Blood (it's actually a punk album) Motorhead-Motorhead Pantera-Cowboys From Hell Otep-House of Secrets Sorry, I'm not into new metal, I'm sure there are some really good bands out. And I too am tired of typing about this. - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:45pm | ||
| Mister Luke User Info... | Don't forget: Napalm Death - avoid Diatribes Bolt Thrower - Realm of Chaos, or anything, really Entombed - Left Hand Path, Clandestine, Wolverine Blues Cathedral - The Ethereal Mirror Morbid Angel - Domination and anything earlier Crowbar - s/t, Sonic Excess in its Purest Form Eyehategod - anything High on Fire - anything Prong - Cleansing, Prove You Wrong, Rude Awakening also GWAR, COC, Brutal Truth, Dismember, Testament, Exodus, Obituary - Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:03am | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | You must be crazy! Diatribes is great!! Also, Prong's Beg To Differ and Scorpio Rising albums have a good stuff on them that shouldn't be overlooked. And Entombed's To Ride, Shoot Straight And Speak The Truth is damn fine death n' roll! See, too many differing views on what's good. Very hard to please everyone. - Fri, 24 Feb 2006 5:21pm | ||
| FLY ON THE WALL User Info... | Nobody has mentioned Hair Metal? what 'bout skid row or poison. I drop that shit when I am spinning on the last Wednesday night of the month at The Carlton Club and all the ladies hit the floor. - Fri, 24 Feb 2006 9:03pm | ||
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| _Griphin_ User Info... | Cause Sargeant D is coming, and your on his list!!! - Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:58pm | ||
| aRCHeTYPe User Info... | roadrunner records artists chimaira, sepultura, killswitch engage, soulfly, fear factory, opeth, machine head, trivium, coal chamber, decide and lots more... check it out - Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:26am | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | He said no nu-metal or radio crap. - Sat, 25 Feb 2006 1:52pm | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | "I’ll burn you a copy of the 3 CD collection and drop it off at Logan’s ." Wow, thanks a lot, Lance. That's be fantastic. By the way, just from the stuff I've been listening to the past couple of days, I'm really digging the 'epic' stuff (Amon Amarth, Enslaved) and the sludgey stuff (Khanate.) I want to get a wide selection for the bar (even shit I'm not crazy about personally) but can anyone recommend some good sludge for my own listening? - Sat, 25 Feb 2006 5:49pm | ||
| Kyle User Info... | Ufomammut: http://www.ufomammut.com http://www.myspace.com/ufomammut - Sat, 25 Feb 2006 8:07pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | Brainoil Aldebaran Eyehategod (if you haven't already heard them) Minsk 5ive (not the boy band, the two piece drone band) Buried at Sea - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:14am | ||
| Gabri~hell User Info... | KYUSS. I either didn't see it on the list (hard to believe, but possible.) or they didn't burn down enough churches to be classified as 'metal'. ENTOMBED. CLUTCH. CORROSION OF CONFROMITY. FU MANCHU. MELVINS. CATHEDRAL. UNIDA. HIGH ON FIRE. BIG BUSINESS. HELMET. NICE CAT. SLOBURN. BOTTOM. SEPULTURA. Google that. And let me know when you'll start playing it, because I'll come down and not-drink-Piper's so I can listen to heavy groove anytime. - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:56am | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | Big Business = thumbs up. - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 1:59am | ||
| aRCHeTYPe User Info... | i don't know "nik olaz" dude but you sure are have to put your 2 fucking cents in everywhere... what makes the stuff i listen to nu metal... there's no such thing... everything we listen is metal there's no such thing as "nu", "black", "death", "speed", "thrash", "doom", "groove", "rap", "metalcore" or whatever the fuck you wanna call it... it's all fucking metal and don't think you're some better because all you listen to isn't on the fucking radio and you're so "dark" and bad ass... the music i listen to is just as good as what you listen to and just as fucking creative... so all i'm fucking doing is giving my opinion to chris logan and if you're too much of an ego maniac to let anyone else share their fucking opinion on this website then go fuck yourself with a sharp piece of glass. - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 9:11am | ||
| mikey User Info... | Archetype, Nik is right. Logan did say "No nu-metal or radio crap." That being said, I wouldn't consider many of the bands you listed "nu" metal. Sepultura and Deicide are heavy, crushing bands from an era when to be "truly metal", you hated so-called "hair" metal posers, not so-called "nu" metal posers. soulfly is a, um, easier version of sepultura, still cool tho. I'm not that familiar with some of the other bands, except coal chamber IS definatley "nu" metal, as is recent stuff from FF and machine head. Not that there is anything wrong with "nu" metal, it's just not what Logan is looking for. - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:19am | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | Dude take it easy. This is just the internet. I'm not dark or whatever? Come talk to me on the street, I will greet you with a smile. I'm also not badass. I don't work out, and I hate red meat. I also don't think i'm better? If you think my internet persona is about having an ego, you're wrong. It's just all in jest. It's called TROLLING. I'm trying to purposefully get a rise. Just ignore me. Or keep typing away. Your choice really. - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:51am | ||
| aRCHeTYPe User Info... | the only point that i'm making is metal shouldn't be labeled... it's all metal cause i refuse to beleive that what i listen to would be "nu" or "old" metal... it's just metal so in a sense for me to give my opinion since i don't label metal then what chris logan and all of you consider "nu" metal, i don't. cya - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 2:02pm | ||
| ODIN User Info... | It's called a sub-genre, get over it. - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 3:46pm | ||
| Ammut User Info... | LOL I love how in every post on livevic,eventually some kind of drama or fight happens....... Hey Chris Logan, are you maybe collecting all this music to put together another metal night at Logans? *crosses fingers* - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 4:43pm | ||
| SickFuk User Info... | Hell yeah.... I'd love to see a bar in town finally do a metal night again... I love seeing live bands, but just going to a bar thats playing metal of all types all night would be fucking awesome... [hint,hint] As for the Nu Metal thing... It's all a matter of definition... some people call Linkin Park metal... wheras I call them a kind of Emo Rock... I'd love to hear some older Korn or maybe some Disturbed... Whereas I'd be even happier to hear some Cannibal Corpse blaring out of the bar... There's another of my 2 cents, we're up to 4 cents now... if I keep this up, I'll be able to buy myself a beer with opinions... 'ere - Sun, 26 Feb 2006 5:01pm | ||
| Jaron Evil User Info... | I really am amused by the fact that the people who don't like to label different styles of metal are the same people that are heavily into Nu-Metal. Its almost like they're ashamed to admit that they listen to it. ----------------------------------- "there's no such thing as "nu", "black", "death", "speed", "thrash", "doom", "groove", "rap", "metalcore" or whatever the fuck you wanna call it." ----------------------------------- That is just ignorant. I could write a book on the stylistic differences between all those sub-genres. I'm sorry, but there is a huge difference in style between Manowar and Cannibal Corpse. ------------------------------------ " the music i listen to is just as good as what you listen to and just as fucking creative" ------------------------------------ ....um ya, I can only assume this guy isn't a musician. Any competent guitarist, bassist, or drummer would disagree with that. And if he IS a musician, god help him. Anyway, getting back on topic, Chris, if you wanna hear some good doomy sludge, check out The Esoteric. You might dig Sunn0))) as well. They are more Experimental/Sludgey/Blackened Doomy Soundscapes. Not everyones cup of tea, but it'd be cool to hear some at a bar. -Mallcore sucks. - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 1:51am | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | The Esoteric features ex-members of Coalesce. So yes. They are quite a good band. - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 2:38am | ||
| Tyler User Info... | haha metal you kids and your namedropping I am in support of genre distinction because we all know morons who don't understand genres ruin music. that's how thursday ended up being called "screamo". god. - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 9:35am | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | I do notice that many bands are labelled Nu-Metal that some people wouldn't necessarily consider Nu-Metal. The point of labelling being considered stupid is that a lot of the time bands are tagged as a certain "kind" of metal when they possess many elements that make them like many other kinds of metal as well. Genre defining is helpful for people who are particular about what they look for in their metal. To people who aren't as particular, genre defining is pointless and a waste of time. People tend to have their own limits as to what they like in riffing styles, lack of solos or vocal phrasing, or tuning or whatever else people can dig up...or in a more extreme scenario, they'll blacklist music because it's liked by certain groups of people. In a way, that is like allowing people who aren't as into metal dictate the music you can like, or admit to liking. On the other hand, some people just genuinely don't like certain styles of metal. For example, I enjoy Chimaira. Many people would call them Nu-Metal. Many others would not. Really, who cares? They are one of the tightest live bands I've seen and they have amazing sound. Also, I am fairly competent on guitar and bass, and I can say categorically that good music is up to the individual's personal tastes. Technical abilities and songwriting abilities are two different things that don't always find a place in music together. Some people look for a good, memorable song and some look for insane, brilliant playing. To each their own. A matter of taste will dictate what people find stimulating in each end of that spectrum and whether those two qualities co-exist in their favorite music. Good music is just good music, and everyone has their own take on which is which. Can't we all just get along? Thanks for reading this babble. Didn't want to get back on that track, but I had to get it out before I put on a Limp Bizkit song and started liking it for the riffing values. Here, here to KYUSS and The MELVINS!! Good ones, Ms. Gabri~hell! Also, if anyone out there considers themselves into "hatecore", then listen to Damaged from Australia, or you are a fucking poser! - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 4:31pm | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | Good points Mr. Hell. I don't know enough metal to really understand all the sub-genres. I've always liked aggressive/loud music in general, but as a teenager I was into punk, so metal was sort of off-limits (stupid tribal rules.) What I mean by Nu Metal is the kind of rap-metal crap that was really big in the late nineties. I can't think of any of the bands, because I always just hated it. It seemed contrived and overproduced and made me think of jocks dropping roofies into chicks' drinks at nightclubs. - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 4:51pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | I hear ya! Limp Bizkit would fit that bill, as would any other band that had similar attributes...such as Rage Against The Machine. But I wonder how many people consider Rage acceptable, and not Bizkit? Such a fine line we walk. - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 4:57pm | ||
| aRCHeTYPe User Info... | jaron evil... to answer one of your statements... i've been drumming for 10 years... and i listen to anything from phil collins to black sabbath to dream theater to arch enemy to local bands... so don't throw that shit around... i'm very accomplished and i beleive in listeing to as much as i can and be as diverse as i can in my drumming... and rage against the machine is an incredible band... but that's funk rock, not metal... - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 5:04pm | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | There ya go - Limp Bizkit. That was one of 'em. Of course, I always tuned them out automatically, so I guess I really can't judge. I always had a hard time with Rage Against The Machine because a) I thought the music sucked and b)I found it hard to accept millionaire rockstars with Harvard degrees preaching about anarchist revolution. But at least their songs had some sort of lyrical meat to them. There is definitely a lot of crossover in heavy music. For instance, I'm playing Leviathan by Mastodon right now, and except for the vocals it reminds me of the Jesus Lizard, one of my favorite bands of all time, and definitely not one most people would consider metal. - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 5:10pm | ||
| Swingin' Joe User Info... | Wow I love Jaron Evil's closemindedness towards metal.If Archetype likes that shit, does that make you better than him?I don't think so, since all you do is dedicate your life to trying to be more grim and underground.Archetype don't take any of this personal, since this is what Jaron's world consists of. http://www.myspace.com/funeralsex With lyrics like "In this house of shattered dreams,And tight-fitted vinyl masks.The sounds of raw black metal bondage,Echo the want of sadistic tasks." Hmmmm I don't know about you but this sounds pretty homosexual to me Jaron.But that's good music right?.Also,how can someone who claims to be so on the pulse of metal not be accepted into a juggernaut like Quo Vadis.If you keep scaring people away from metal with your pugnacious logic, who will you pander your drivel to? Keep it up tool. - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 5:21pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | I was only saying that Limp Bizkit and Rage have a alot of the same attributes, which could cause people to lump them both into the Nu-Metal category. I don't consider Rage to be Nu-Metal at all...but I know many people who do. Again, all a matter of where you see music from. And really. Does Limp Bizkit have any metal in them at all? Maybe some guitar. That's about all. The rest is diaper filling. - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 6:29pm | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | Yeah, I guess Nu Metal is one of those useless classifications because it means so much it doesn't really mean anything. But I still don't like it, whatever it is. - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 7:02pm | ||
| goff User Info... | DOWN-nola and gabri-hell pretty much covered the rest of the good stuff - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 7:14pm | ||
| Gabri~hell User Info... | Mister Hell: Fairly fucking competent, indeed! And, in my opinion, the difference between RATM and Limping Biznuts is politics (which are charming; held by the former) versus frat-boys (which are homo-erotic ---ok, ok, frat-boys are just irritating; held by the latter). As long as I am not subjected to looking at Limp Biscuit, or hearing their lyrics make actual words, they are fine background music at loud 5 a.m. parties in the woods with a small ghetto blaster that is running out of batteries. Thumbs up to the "funk rock" comment! And thank you Goff. I spent many years ruining my perfectly good hearing, and spending money that I don't regret spending, honing my tastes, which are personal, and therefore subjective, and impossible to argue about. Rationally, I should add. Although that mammoth list could stomp down a town, and there are many more bands I am refraining from pelting toward Mister Logan (nice turnout in your thread, by the way!), I actually consider those bands to be 'Easy Listening' rather than metal. And has Strapping Young Lad been mentioned? If not, huge oversight. If so, wee oversight (mine). - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 7:36pm | ||
| Jaron Evil User Info... | HAHAHA oh how little you seem to know about me, Swingin' Joe. Since you seem to think that my world consists entirely of my raw black metal project, I should probably inform you that I am the bassist for Gremory, the guitarist for Seasons Of Sorrow, and Funeral Fornication is only one of several solo projects I have. I didn't end up playing for Quo Vadis because I decided I didn't want to move to Quebec. That was all. How am I closeminded? It was Archetype who was originally denying that there were any different styles of metal. I love everything from power metal to black to death and most stuff inbetween. I just can't stand "Nu-Metal" because its overhyped watered down trendy garbage. Now fuck off and go listen to your rap shit. - - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 9:19pm | ||
| Possessed User Info... | I highly recommend these two bands: EARLY MAN and THE SWORD. They're both fucking awesome! - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 9:48pm | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | "Hmmmm I don't know about you but this sounds pretty homosexual to me" I've got such a boner from all the cool music I've been getting I don't know which way I swing anymore. - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:12pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | Definately big ups to the Sword. That's some fine ass rock n' roll. - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:12pm | ||
| aRCHeTYPe User Info... | well if ever i visit or move to vancouver island i will definately check out this "logan's" place and see what kind of music they went with... cya - Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:29pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Hey Chris, you sure you know what your doing in relation to computer playback?!? Oh wait a sec, you probably do. - Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:05am | ||
| Jeremy Baker User Info... | I like the new Lamb of God record (and we don't play that on the radio hahaha) I always enjoy Rage and Deftones. Around the Fur is a good disc and White Pony makes me want to have sex. Old Metallica is alright, but Megadeth puts a smile on my face. Oh, and someone said Fu Manchu above, I LOVE that band too! I have the record "Crossing California" and I dig. That is the only record I have, but my friends all like that band and their other discs too. Not really "metal" but its got a good groove and I could toss pints to that record. - Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:50am | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | "Hey Chris, you sure you know what your doing in relation to computer playback?!?" Yeah, Griphin, pretty sure thanks. It's still gonna be a while, though, because I have a lot of holes to fill in our collection (not just metal.) Oh, and no offense about the radio crack, Jeremy, just that there are already plenty of clubs people can go to hear that stuff. - Tue, 28 Feb 2006 2:23pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | We all knew that this was gonna happen.... - Tue, 28 Feb 2006 2:31pm | ||
| Jeremy Baker User Info... | oh, I'm not worried about it Chris, I know the jig. I am going drinking at Logan's on Friday to see Mr. Plow! Are you going to have a dance floor going when you spin metal, or will it be like a little more subdued and sitting and eating and drinking? - Tue, 28 Feb 2006 2:37pm | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | Well, my project now is just to assemble some good music for the bar - our current collection is tiny. A couple years back we used to have a metal DJ on Monday nights - the selection was great (I thought) but it was all pretty extreme and/or obscure stuff - basically we couldn't count on enough extreme metal fans to come out every Monday and most of our regular customers would flee the premises screaming. We do a lot more lie metal shows than we used to, and I'd like to have appropriate stuff to play while the bands are offstage, plus I think it'd be cool if on a regular night somebody could maybe request some metal and hear something besides Sabbath (not that there's anything wrong with Sabbath.) PLUS I just like it when the music in a place is really eclectic - you know, you hear maybe the Rolling Stones followed by John Lee Hooker followed by Slayer followed by...I dunno. Guided By Voices? - Tue, 28 Feb 2006 2:48pm | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | Just to follow up that last point - I just want everyone to know that, while I'm personally hip deep in the metal right now, I'm also amassing a bunch of ambient/electronica, reggae, etc. for the bar. So we're still bound to have something to offend every taste! - Tue, 28 Feb 2006 3:05pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Chris Logan writes... >just that there are already plenty of clubs people can go to hear that stuff. Any support, is GOOD support!!! - Tue, 28 Feb 2006 5:18pm | ||
| Heather User Info... | Hi Chris, How does one go about booking a metal show at Logans? I have emailed and phoned your booking contact a number of times the last week or so and have had no response. Thanks Heather - Tue, 28 Feb 2006 5:53pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | I know Mr. Plow, he rocks!!! - Tue, 28 Feb 2006 5:57pm | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | "How does one go about booking a metal show at Logans?" Our booker, Sarah, is in the office Wednesdays from noon til 5. The best way to get in the door is to email her (logansbooking@ shaw.ca or [email protected] - it doesn't matter which) with a brief message about the dates your hoping for, style, etc. Links to a website or myspace page are GREAT. You can follow up maybe a week later. Please don't be discouraged or insulted by a slow response. We have a lot of bands trying to fill just a few dates and we generally run at least two months ahead. Gentle, polite persistence, good presentation, and quality music will get you in. Or you can just blow us off and play one of the many other fine venues in town! - Tue, 28 Feb 2006 6:36pm | ||
| Heather User Info... | Thanks Chris - Wed, 1 Mar 2006 8:52am | ||
| Swingin' Joe User Info... | HAILS Jaron Evil! I can honestly say it's a good thing you didn't move to Quebec to join Quo Vadis , because you really would have taken a great band down quite a few pegs.Although I still percieve you as delusional/full of shit, your charade still amuses me.And my rap shit? Well I don't normally listen to rap, But there is some in which I consider classic.Now if your done being a music nazi,I have some offing to fuck.Cute picture by the way.Stay Glam. - Wed, 1 Mar 2006 6:12pm | ||
| Krystal Koffin User Info... | Ok Swingin' Joe, I don't know who you are but, it makes me wonder if your from around here. Jaron is one of the only local bass players I know that could live up to Steve DiGiorgio! Which I am very disapointed he did not try out. I also don't see how he is " delusional/full of shit", he has recorded proof of all his projects, in which 4 of them he does all the instruments and vocals and for someone that does all that I have never seen one bit of an ego. I also don't see how he is a " music nazi" just because he doesn't like dumbed down mallcore. Which any person that understands music can see that it doesn't take tallent to down tune and play a few cord changes and does it just for the money. Jaron was not saying anything bad to anyone he was just making a point clear that in metal there are different genre's , that could not be more true. Anyone that try's to tell me that there is no difference between Morbid Angel and God Smack needs to come in to reality. I don't know why you feel to need to attack someone that truly does not deserve it. I have know Jaron for some time and what your are saying of him is very unacurate. He is one of the most open minded person I know! He lives, eats and breaths music. So unless you accually know what your saying to be true then you should keep the bashing to yourself, instead of slandering someone that would be willing to help anyone out and is who he says he is. - Wed, 1 Mar 2006 7:25pm | ||
| SickFuk User Info... | To say that all metal is the same and that there is no sub-genres of it is quite wrong... Thats like saying that Humans, Dogs, Cats and Whales are all the same because they're all mammals... I can't say that I love all metal, just most of it... I just want to see more promotion of it, such as a metal night at Logans... Makes me wish I had my own bar to run... 2 more cents... that brings me up to a total of 6 now... 'ere - Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:03pm | ||
| Swingin' Joe User Info... | Krystal, I do indeed live here in Victoria. Ok so didn't he did state he could have had the gig with Quo Vadis,if he moved to Quebec?Now you say he didn't even try out!?That seems kinda funny.Fuck it.He's in the band now.How bout that? "Jaron was not saying anything bad to anyone he was just making a point clear that in metal there are different genre's ,that could not be more true." Commenting on someone's musical ability isn't saying anything bad at all I guess.Open minded? What bullshit.Maybe you should also read his posts again.And yes he still is a music nazi.But hey,stay biased.He IS your boyfriend. And on the whole genre defining of metal,I completely agree with Mr.Hell's take on it.It seems everyone has overlooked that posting. - Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:52pm | ||
| Jaron Evil User Info... | Swingin' Joe, I am NOT in Quo Vadis, I never said I was in Quo Vadis. All I said was: "I didn't end up playing for Quo Vadis because I decided I didn't want to move to Quebec. That was all." Meaning just that. I never said I could've had the gig. I talked to the Quo Vadis guys when they came thru town, I was given an oppertunity and decided not to take it. Simple as that. You seem to know an awful lot about me, and made no mention of who you are. You seem to be pretty brave when the people you insult don't know your real name. Cute pic yourself. Stay emo. - - Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:15pm | ||
| Akylore User Info... | Mr. Hell: "Technical abilities and songwriting abilities are two different things that don't always find a place in music together. Some people look for a good, memorable song and some look for insane, brilliant playing... ...Also, if anyone out there considers themselves into "hatecore", then listen to Damaged from Australia, or you are a fucking poser!" Shit man I could not agree with you any more. I am one of those people that am WAY heavier into epic songwriting than technicality. I can appreciate technicality, but I can't enjoy it as much as I enjoy epic songwriting. Side note: one of Damaged's members sang in this fucking CHRISTRAPING Australian black metal band called 'Hellspawn' as well, they fucking crush! My suggestion to Chris as far as the topic is concerned: when I lived in Nanaimo, when that joke club Dizzy's was still open, there were a small amount of bands (Gross Misconduct, Seasons of Sorrow, Nibiriu...and I think that was all?) doing shows, and whenever we played local shows I brought in metal mixtures. Agiel, Lost Horizon, Siebenburgen, Nile, Immortal, Blind Guardian, Morbid Angel, and others. My point isn't so much these bands, as it is that the MIXTURE was important. Some of the feedback I got from random people was that some of them would end up sticking around and having a 'couple more beers' because they 'loved that fuckin' tune.' Let's face it, power metal or death metal, you're gonna have that 'crusader' that will 'heed the call' (be it by Alcohol or just flat-out causing a raucous) and hang out and talk metal, which is what it's really all about. As Mr Hell also mentioned, having metalheads agree on anything is very on and off. I don't know....I've never run into a raver that crossed his arms, or folded them in an akimbo elitest-fashion, and retort with a bold demeanor, "Atmospheric techno is shit. Jungle rave is the trve form." Lol...I mean come on. I've witnessed death metal fiends detest black metal because it's not brutal enough and the production's weak. I've witnessed black metal freaks hate power metal because it's too fucking happy. I've witnessed power metal freaks hate death metal because it's just a bunch of fucking noise and growling. The whole point is that if you want a successful conglomeration of metalheads, you will have no choice but to expand. I'm talking everything from Unique Leader material to Manowar. I'll thrown in my own opinion that stuff like Dillinger Escape plan and Converge and all that stuff is just morse-code core, not metal. But as long as the whole set for the night isn't followed up by a constant assault of Atreyu, Sworn Enemy, Depised Icon, and other bands that provoke hardcore dancing, then I won't be 'violently deterred' from the place. That's just my long-winded opinion. - Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:31am | ||
| Swingin' Joe User Info... | Well my real name is Joe.Also it's only local, so people talk.Brave? Am I supposed to be scared of Jaron Evil!?My name is Joe.What more do you want a napkin with my phone number on it?You shouldn't even bother trying to reply anymore.It seems you have an ulcer everytime you try to give a coherent response.And Logans needs to play Living Like Assholes by the KEG KILLERS.Yeah I know it's punk,they're still heavy shit. Staying Emo. Toodles. - Thu, 2 Mar 2006 7:06am | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Definitely a wide cross section of styles will have to be included. However, on a given night the music played should be similar in ways to the bands performing. For example, when Run Like Hell played at Logans last with Faces Of Black and Grass City, I brought in a disc that was a mix of different kinds of heavy music {from Melvins to Queens Of The Stone Age to latter-day Soilwork to Prong} which all fit into the realm of styles being played by the bands. Keeps a nice continuity to the evening, as opposed to having a heavy rock band on, then in between throwing on some Christraping Black Metal. Mind you, I'd get a laugh out of it, but 96% of the crowd would run out the doors and never come back. Gotta think of who you're playing to, always! If it were just a metal night of canned music, all kinds would be best of course. Gotta be, 'cuz most metal heads can't agree on much. - Thu, 2 Mar 2006 4:45pm | ||
| Aeron Zero User Info... | Did anyone say Necrophagist yet? Sweet Sweet tech. I love them and i also love Coal Chamber. BLASPHEMY!! - Fri, 3 Mar 2006 4:03pm | ||
| Ward Ensemble User Info... | Is there a rulebook out there defining the different styles and genres of metal? It should be pretty specific, being that there is so much differing of opinions regarding what makes one band nu-metal or grind-core or whatever. If there is not an accepted reference, then all you have is opinion... no fact at all. Maybe any of you who consider yourself an 'expert' can write one, so we all can sleep better. It would still have to be accepted by the rest of the metal community, of course. - Fri, 3 Mar 2006 4:51pm | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | music that I would like to hear Inquisition, Black Witchery, Conqueror, Revenge, Blasphemy, Destroyer 666, Portal, Impiety, Toxic Holocaust, Beherit, Rites of Thy Degringolade, Axis of Advance, Belphegor, Behemoth, etc. et. NAME DROP NAME DROP NAME DROP. - Fri, 3 Mar 2006 6:52pm | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | "s there a rulebook out there defining the different styles and genres of metal? It should be pretty specific, being that there is so much differing of opinions regarding what makes one band nu-metal or grind-core or whatever." I've run into this problem already just trying to organize all the music I have. At first I was going to call everything with overdriven guitars "Rock" and leave it at that - but that isn't really useful if you want to hear the Who and not the Sex Pistols. Anyway, our categories at the bar will be pretty broad i.e. Sabbath and Darkthrone are both going to be just "Metal." I know some people will be chagrined at this but, uh...tough shit. Anyway, it's cool to hear different stuff within a broad sort of framework. Besides, like I said, I definitely want to see a lot of variety in the playlist - except for specific nights, most of the time I'm going to advise people to hit "Random" and just let 'er rip. - Fri, 3 Mar 2006 7:14pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Chris...that is perfect! - Fri, 3 Mar 2006 8:25pm | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | I didn't notice if anyone mentioned CARCASS yet. And I would personally love to walk into a bar that was blasting SEPULTURA - Beneath the Remains. PIG DISTROYER anyone? Ever listen to MORGOTH? They're old but I still dig them. AHHH metal night!!!! I'll be there!! - Fri, 3 Mar 2006 8:36pm | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | yeah this could actually be really fun, fuck I'll go there even though I don't drink!! - Sat, 4 Mar 2006 12:45am | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | Ooops Sorry SickFuk...of course you mentioned Carcass...Necro is the best. - Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:52am | ||
| Ward Ensemble User Info... | Go Chris! End metal segregation! - Sun, 5 Mar 2006 7:57am | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | "Go Chris! End metal segregation!" Oh, it'll take a bigger man than me to do that. But, I guess, in my small way...(cue strings) - Sun, 5 Mar 2006 8:46am | ||
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