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So...Dimebag Darrell is dead.
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Nik Olaz
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http://www.nbc4i.com/news/3983630/detail.html

there you go Pantera fans. there will be no re-union. - Wed, 8 Dec 2004 9:52pm
Perpetual_Burn
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Brootal. Thanks for sending me the link man, This Literally JUST happened. Rough. But that's America for you, Hooray for giving guns to Crazies, it's their right! - Wed, 8 Dec 2004 9:58pm
XY-SATAN
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I'm sickend . - Wed, 8 Dec 2004 10:15pm
pierce
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holy fuck. holy fuck. holy fuck. Oh my god. I can't fuckin believe it. Sweet joseph. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK. Oh my fucking god. - Wed, 8 Dec 2004 10:21pm
PCreaper
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Shot five times in the head according to blabbermouth.net....holy fuck I think I'm going to throw up. - Wed, 8 Dec 2004 10:32pm
XY-SATAN
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http://cf.nbc4i.com/col/sh/videoplayer/video.cfm?id=3983791&owner=col - Wed, 8 Dec 2004 10:41pm
Criss Crass
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hatefull!!! - Wed, 8 Dec 2004 10:53pm
mindlesssexmagik
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Well we will always remember that he was the man! sick guitarist with pantera and damageplan. Is everyone else getting constant shivers too. - Wed, 8 Dec 2004 11:03pm
XY-SATAN
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Dimebag, Vinnie Paul, are both dead is what I'm hearing - Wed, 8 Dec 2004 11:13pm
mindlesssexmagik
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VINNIE TOO!!! fuck no, what the fuck is happening here. Dont they have metal detectors or something. I remember when i went to POD last June they patted ppl down and also i am sure had a metal detector.

Sad sad day for music. - Wed, 8 Dec 2004 11:22pm
ML7Mike
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Dimebag and Vinnie Paul.. Brothers too.. harsh! What a nutcase that guy is! - Wed, 8 Dec 2004 11:25pm
PCreaper
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From some of the eye-witness accounts its sounds like Vinnie was at least shot.... - Wed, 8 Dec 2004 11:25pm
Matt
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-Fuck- - Wed, 8 Dec 2004 11:35pm
Robnoxious
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Double Fuck and triple fuck. Says the gunman died at the scene as well. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 12:44am
dooker
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I started the post about lennon being shot - this is very very messed up - hate to sound too weird but there are copy cats out there - keep your heads up - now is the time to think about anyone who has been at your shows who seems a little more than unstable - a previous band of mine had someone stalking them (every show etc etc ) so shit does happen - fuck.... is all i can think right now.... - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 12:52am
User
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Those Americans and their guns....Scary. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 12:53am
jay brown
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o.k. I have read a bunch of different sites and none of them are saying if Vinnie is dead. fucking hell Pantera have been one of my guilty pleasures for a long time... Shitty deal, the guy was yelling at Darryl about him breaking up Pantera when he shot him, what a fucking nutcase. What is it with americans and shooting famous people....... couldnt of shot Garth Brooks huh. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 12:55am
Nik Olaz
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yeah even though i dont really care for Pantera, its a fucking weak way to go out, no one deserves that at all. i also read some people comparing this to when John Lennon died. I totally think thats totally dumb comparing the two. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 1:12am
dooker
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I agree no comparison - didnt mean to make any if I did... - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 1:19am
sati
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Wow, these famous people really set themselves up for some serious shit, huh? Comparisons, comparisons.. which is worthier than the other of life.

People practically salivate when stuff like this happens. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 1:23am
Kickback
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Shit it's one of those things you never think is going to happen. Super nice dude and one of the last great guitarists of our time. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 1:39am
Jaron Evil
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Dimebag was legend and at least we can all revel in the fact that his music will live on forever. From what I've heard Vinnie Paul is in critical condition. One other member of Damageplan has been declared deceased, though no one is saying who. (It might be Vinnie Paul, might not be)

R.I.P. "Dimebag" Darrell Lance Abbott 1966 - 2004



m/ - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 2:31am
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cnn has now just done a report on this shooting
dime is dead and the police are being carefull in thier investigation not to release names of other casualties for now
some people are calling this a hoax but i really dont think so after seeing this cnn report
stay tuned - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 2:41am
DOOMHAMMER
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If dimebag had a gun for self defense this never would have happened

Screw gun control - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 3:36am
what are you a bush supporter
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jesus. what a truely moronic opinion. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 3:50am
Død[]Sanger
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I'm fucking sickened.

I hope that cop blew the fuckers face clean apart...

I'm drinkin' this next one to Fucking Hostile....

I can't believe that a place with guns floating around had allowed in an armed person!!!!
WTF happened there????
This should never have happened... where are the fucking metal detectors even?!?!?! In schools but not metal concerts!?!?!?!
ARRGH!
FUCK!
KILLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 3:55am
Masturbating The War God
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I just got off work and I learned of it on the Howard Stern show, fucking crazy. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 6:19am
David
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Seriously, this is fucking bullshit. I mean would you ever see someone come on stage durning Jimi Hendrix's show and kill him. God man can't they leave our guitar gods alone. Why can't they take Scott Stapp instead. Fucking Creed!! - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 6:23am
DOOMHAMMER
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http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=29847

That was from seven days ago, I wonder if it had any impact - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 8:04am
Lucius
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I heard the shooter is dead. Its a sad day when one minute your rocking to you're favorite band and next you're in a body bag. People who shot eachother can't fight thats why they have guns. R.I.P Daryl, Vinnie, and Uknown! - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 8:53am
Tragedy
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Oh I'm getting SO shitfaced tonight... - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 8:55am
Lucius
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You and me both bro! You don't realize how much of an influence Dimebag was on millions of guitar players. Truely a loss. Cheers Lucius - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 9:06am
davescene
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I couldn't believe what a stupid, arrogant moron Phil Anselmo was at Ozzfest. He just wouldn't shut up and people were screaming at him to stop talking and sing a #&$*#@ing song and here's more proof...

"I think I proved clearly to everybody what I was in PANTERA! And what I was was a unique, unbelievably magnetic frontman that had not been around since the days of Robert Plant and Ozzy Osbourne. I am one in a million. . . I have staying power! I have a devoted following that would do anything for me! Anything that I say. And there's not many people that can say that, that are in my position."

This guy is worse than Sting for his ego - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 9:23am
ML7Mike
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haha Ive yelled at Phil before to stop talking on stage.. the guy never shuts up.. Of course he didnt hear me and I could barely talk the next day but hey I was good and drunk.. XY Satan remembers! lol... - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:15am
Mutilashawn
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This is truly sad . .

I mean why couldn't Phil go out like that? At least he deserved it. Dimebag was the only redeeming quality of Pantera/Damageplan.

Either way a man has been senselessly killed and that is a shame. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:16am
mindlesssexmagik
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http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1494653/20041209/damageplan.jhtml?headlines=true - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:55am
Danny Silverfish
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As I sit Iam learning about this freaky shit , iam gonna smoke one in memory of one of the few who to this day inspire me so heavily.

R.I.P

until the Cemetary Gates - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 12:11pm
Cheeky
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Sad day for music. Had a little tribute today and blasted Pantera and Damageplan in one of the classrooms. Alot of people showed up, even some teachers. Small world. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 12:44pm
Isolation Ride
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Major loss to the music community.This man was one of the ass kickers who kept metal up and alive.R.I.P Dimebag.YOU ROCK BRO!! - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 1:58pm
Jaron Evil
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What is it with metal stars dying lately???

Lets revue the past few years...

2001 - Chuck Schuldiner of DEATH (Brain cancer)
2002 - Dave Williams of DROWNING POOL (Drug overdose)
2003 - Quorthon of BATHORY (Heart failure)
2004 - Dimebag Darrell of PANTERA/DAMAGEPLAN (Murdered)

what the hell?? whose it to be next year?



\m/ - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 2:03pm
moron
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What's with all the rabid Pantera fans crawling out? A bit creepy if you ask me. Would you be doing all the same blubbering stuff if someone from Anthrax got shot too? Guns and Roses? Bon Jovi? Hell, Lincoln Park?

Pantera have always pretty much sucked regardless of whether they were ripping off Metallica, Slayer, Helmet, etc. and if you truly think that Dime Bag is a guitar god worthy of such post humous worship then you have been reading far too many Hit Paraders.

No one here knows Dime Bag Darrel personally I expect so what's the big deal? Anyway, the guy had a good run so why the misery? You've got more than enough back catalogue to keep you happy I am sure.

And what better way for a rock star to go than on stage? Would you prefer he had a slow, lingering death in a hospital bed from colon cancer or aids?

Cheers - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 2:11pm
RUBBERBOX
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your name says it all. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 2:41pm
Yo Mama
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Moron - an apt name, to say the least. If you don't like Dimebag, don't post. Of course, no one knew him personally - but did we know John Lennon, either? We should just forget about them all, I guess.
It's obviously a big loss to the music world, so let people mourn him if they want. By the way, your user I.D. tag says "control freak behind numerous musical projects you have never heard of." No shit. Make that "...no one wants to hear, either, because I'm a complete tool." - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 3:36pm
RIP
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Moron, you truly are an idiot. You have substantiated to all in your post how you obviously are out of your league when it comes to "Heavy Metal". Your ignorance only lessens your already minial opinion. Step aside, stop humiliating yourself and turn up your Bitchney Spears. And to answer your question .....

"Would you be doing all the same blubbering stuff if someone from Anthrax got shot too? Guns and Roses? Bon Jovi? Hell, Lincoln Park?"

Those are your favorites eh? Bon Jovi..rock out POSER! - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 3:37pm
Robnoxious
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Hand guns make me sick. No one (except Law Enforcement and they should have to turn them in off shift) in Canada, the U.S. or the world really need to own one.
If you really believe it's your constitutional god given right to do so, I say you are a WARPIG perpetuating hate against your fellow man. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 3:43pm
jay brown
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while I am aware that Moron does have a rather large love of metal, I am also aware that he has always hated anything even remotely commercial or successful. It's o.k. Ron we'll all hug later and have a candlelight vigil. Nope didnt know him, and yup there is a bunch of old albums I can throw on and listen to, and I did in fact do that today as a matter of fact. Nonetheless it's a shitty deal.... and in a weird sort of way your right if a rockstar has to die, on stage and quick would be the preferred way I guess huh. I'm pretty sure getting shot in the face wouldnt be tops on the list for choices though. Maybe an o.d. or geting sucked dry by some hot groupie while doing a killer solo.... or maybe both. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 3:47pm
evilkleg
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Well, I guess I HAVE been reading too many Hit Paraders lately because I thought Dimebag was a true master of the guitar. I was lucky enough to see him and Pantera on the Vulgar Display of Power tour (at the Commodore) and that as much as anything influenced me to play metal guitar for the rest of my life. R.I.P. Dimebag.
Oh, and MORON, Washburn doesn't produce $3500 signature series guitars for just anyone... - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 3:59pm
Dr.DoomXXX
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I'll have too get extremely tanked and baked tonight in honor of Dimebag. Even if moron doesn't aprove and thinks they just rip off.........Helmet(?)
The fact is that Pantera was the first band I heard as a teenager that sounded genuinely pissed off. The guy won so many guitar competitions back in the day that they eventually told him to stop competing and give some one else a chance. That's something that moron can never say for any of his mall core hero's. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 4:06pm
moron
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Evilkeg. . .did you catch Cryptopsy's recent show here in Victoria? How about the last two Cannibal Corpse gigs in Vancouver (the one here in Victoria was pretty weak due to a line-up change)? How about the Cephalic Carnage show a couple of years back? Any of the Kataklysm shows?

Just wondering what you are comparing against.

Jay. . .agreed, shot in the face ain't the best but still it guarantees an instant death cult. Just think how many old crusty Pantera albums they are going to sell now. Bets on how quickly they roll out a Loud tribute month?

RIP. . .I am suggesting that pretty much Pantera = Anthrax or similar stuff not that I like either particularly.

Yo Mama. . .if you can't handle discussion don't post in a forum. And why exactly is it a huge loss? If Dimebag was in his early 20s perhaps it might be a "big loss" (as far as future album output) but considering that Pantera was already done and the more recent projects were even more generic rehashing you hardly are going to miss out on any future "classics". For comparison, if the entire Slayer line-up got hit by a bus it certainly would not be musical loss since anything of any note was put out years ago (likewise with Pantera). You cannot lose what has already passed. Metal will do just fine without Mr. Dime Bag. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 4:11pm
Ammut
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*raises glass of whiskey, sheds tear*
Somebody in security totally fucked up to let someone with a gun get passed them, I've never been to a metal show (other than little local ones) where I haven't had my bag/purse/person searched, and it's really just tragic that because someone wasn't doing their job that a bunch of people had to die by some fucking asshole pyscho.

and personally, if bon jovi or someone in linkin park got shot in the face I'd laugh so fucking hard, but maybe that's just me. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 4:13pm
Joie
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Metalheads STAY HOME! With nitwits like moron who walk the town like the guy who killed Dimebag, it's not worth going out and playing. Play in silence. Enough said... - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 4:18pm
Dr.DoomXXX
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2 posts up it says "anonymous" but it was me. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 4:25pm
Dr.DoomXXX
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This isn't the first time LiveVic has done that. But I have to say Ammut if stinkin park was gunned down ( or any mall core shit ) the party would be at my place. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 4:28pm
Livevic Scott
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I don't think its good when anyone gets gunned down. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 4:35pm
Das_Golems
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yeah, that has to be one of the worst things heard yesterday. Fuck... and i didn't even care for Damagplan that much. Yeah, hopefly stinki'n park is next And Slipknot... OH! And fuckin' Green Day... if any of them die i am throwin' the best death metal party ever... I'll get Cannibal and umm... Origin down here... ahh... fantasies. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 4:40pm
SickFuk
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I don't really care what anyone else says... Dimebag was one of the all time greats of metal. I think my favorite memory of him would have to be the "Pantera 3 - Watch it go" vid. He gets pisstank drunk and trashes his neighbours car with a sledgehammer.... Maybe that should be my tribute to him.
Dimebag may be dead, but metal lives on.
Time go go toss Vulgar is my CD player and fucking crank it - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 4:49pm
Yo Mama
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Moron, I can handle discussion. However, you did not "discuss" people's thoughts. You lorded over them with arrogance and claimed to know that a particular person's thoughts of a guitar player were inspired by a magazine. That's not discussion, correct me if I'm wrong. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 5:17pm
DestroyeR
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Makes ya a bit Queezy, damn. Ive always liked Glamtara and Dimebag, but never been a huge fan. This still makes me sick. Two of my best friends just love Panterable and I bet their choked.
Moron did have a good point about the future of metal losing, and Pantera gaining sales. Its sad but true. Anyone inffluenced buy Darryl already recieved what they will. It coulda been somone else though. Or nobody.
Well, more cheers more beers, here's to the decieced. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 5:19pm
Yo Mama
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,,,and another thing, Moron. Just because someone's best days were behind them doesn't mean they couldn't have created worthwhile music once more. Last time I checked, Jimi Hendrix wasn't touring Are You Experienced? when he died. Probably would have created some damn fine music later on though, no? Yes. Hell yes. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 5:23pm
theredneckhippie
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Dimebag is the best damn guitarist I've ever had the pleasure of listening to.Whether it be metal/rock/country/anything.I'm not just talkin' solos but the riffs he came up with and the songwriting.
he's my hero.
and may he R.I.P.
there were none better.
He Ruled - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 5:29pm
METALNECK
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Ignore MORON, he thinks he is cool because he doesn't like things that are popular. Congratulations on limiting your narrow mind.
Me and H have been upset all day and we are on our way to the charity game and the news said even Bert might be able to play left wing tonite. He is deffinately playing at the charity game sunday at gm place vs the giants and that was just announced at the same broadcast this morning when I heard Dimbag was dead. So happy and so sad. Why did he have to die on such a happy occasion?
Sucks ass. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 5:33pm
ROSS B AY
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Got me through a lot of hard times. Lots. I don't feel so good. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 5:34pm
DOOMHAMMER
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2001 - Chuck Schuldiner of DEATH (Brain cancer)
2002 - Dave Williams of DROWNING POOL (Drug overdose)
2003 - Quorthon of BATHORY (Heart failure)
2004 - Dimebag Darrell of PANTERA/DAMAGEPLAN (Murdered)

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Quorthon actually died this year, I think only like 5 months ago. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 5:35pm
Joie
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http://www.angelfire.com/band2/wolvie/enter.html - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 6:09pm
X Beauty
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This Fxxkin sucks!! I want to say "Let the pitbulls attack!" but I'll wait to see what the master says... something big is probably gonna come out of Dimebags death.. RIP - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 6:50pm
Jedi
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Did Anselmo have any personal jealousy problems? - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 8:22pm
BibleBasher
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guess i'm not playing any more shows...i know all the people that hate me.. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 8:50pm
V
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better than not knowing them - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 9:04pm
Chris
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i got this news at 6 am this morning... now i'm probably saying something that someone else has posted cause i havn't taken the time to read every post... I've been sad all day. I listened to kisw and just couldn't beleive all day what had happened. I never met the guy, never even got to see pantera or damageplan live but you listen to a band for so long it's like you knew him. it's a shame that such in incident could be caused by such an unprovocated motive. unfortunately what's done is done and no one can reverse the past and I quote an iron maiden song "only the good die young" or that "book" whichever you prefer. it's a bloody shame that dime had to leave us when so many assholes on this planet deserve to die. not some guy having a good time playing music and having some beers.
Cya Dime - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 9:43pm
jay brown
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Just a funny little story, I was talking to the soundman that is doing our next album over in van next month. He was at a party a couple months ago with Darryl and the strapping Young Lad guys and Darryl got all wasted and shaved Tommie Lee's head.... now that is a good memory. - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:26pm
lonemonk
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I'm really fuckin' touched; I had yet to see such a heartfelt outpouring of unanimous grief on livevic in such a short period of time. This thread has barely left the top, all day.

For a bunch of hardass metalheads, ya'll are pretty sensitive to the value of a fellow musicians' mortal coil.

btw. Robnoxious: The Law IN PARTICULAR should not possess firearms; In a way that is enough for people to feel they should have them...

Isn't that what we tell our 3-year olds?
Killing = Bad (no exceptions) - Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:38pm
Danny Silverfish
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hey moron can you solo at all?
if not shut the fuck up
if you can, post(mp3) something you think would school Dime bag .

let us hear your playing. - Fri, 10 Dec 2004 9:23am
Sudz
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A terrible thing indeed! It's definately a mad world out there. Whether you liked or disliked Pantera/Damageplan or metal in gereral, no one deserves to go out like that. He was an inspiration and innovator to all walks of life. It sickens me to see slander and ignorance that some sub-humans display. Have some respect for the dead and those who cherish(ed)him. R.I.P. Dimebag.
Three-eeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! - Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:48am
Troutbreath
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"What's with all the rabid Pantera fans crawling out? A bit creepy if you ask me. Would you be doing all the same blubbering stuff if someone from Anthrax got shot too? Guns and Roses? Bon Jovi? Hell, Lincoln Park?"

"and personally, if bon jovi or someone in linkin park got shot in the face I'd laugh so fucking hard, but maybe that's just me."

"I have to say Ammut if stinkin park was gunned down ( or any mall core shit ) the party would be at my place."

"Yeah, hopefly stinki'n park is next And Slipknot... OH! And fuckin' Green Day... if any of them die i am throwin' the best death metal party ever... I'll get Cannibal and umm... Origin down here... ahh... fantasies"

You guys need to think through what you are saying. Celebrating violence is just not cool. If you don't agree with me consider what happened to Nathan Bray. He's 23 years old, a music fan and he heads down to his local club to take in a concert. He could be any one of us doing the same thing at Steamers or Lucky Bar. This particular night he's watching a band called Damageplan. Some asshole, who thinks it's OK to solve his problems with life with a gun gets on stage and opens fire. Nathan Bray is hit by one of the bullets and dies at the scene. If you want to go home and party around that then you're as sick as the guy who pulled the trigger. Before you go party to celebrate violence go visit _griphin_ in the hospital. - Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:13am
X Beauty
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OOOHH GOD!!! Here we go!!! please don't compare Griphin with DIMEBAG... FUCK MAN! I just got home from listening to Pantera in my car and I come home to livevic and see this...gggaaawd - Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:12pm
XY-SATAN
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Last night I'm at Evos and I'm talking about the tragedy to friends and trying to console each other, hugging, just trying to understand and this fuck notices us and says "what the fuck man people die everyday and would I feel the same if it was a crack addict who died ? I just about went ballistic on the joker , I can't understand people like this but he persisted on wanting tell me his opinion ,I'm like "shut your fucking mouth now or I'll shut you up !"
I just can't understand the heartless comments by some people , and who are they to judge what is important or relevant in my life ?
Still fucked up, I haven’t slept, I'm just numb . - Fri, 10 Dec 2004 1:37pm
Isolation Ride
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Throws "dimebags" to all the fans of Pantera! - Fri, 10 Dec 2004 1:58pm
Livevic Scott
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http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/article.asp?ID=8308&type=NWS

Words from Oderus! - Fri, 10 Dec 2004 2:01pm
XY-SATAN
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Here are some pics of the memorial for dime off of a site I go


http://www.tulsascoffin.com/coffin/viewtopic.php?t=641&sid=dcafa6d33a45582ebb53c70a8e153980 - Fri, 10 Dec 2004 2:07pm
created to kill
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.. when i was 12 years old i heard Dime for the first time ,two months later i bought my first guitar, he was the REASON i started playing ,........ thanks Dimebag for years of great guitar playing , and writing solos that made the hair stand up on the back of my neck! RIP man...
XXthanks for posting that gwar article , it lifted my spirit quite nicely XX - Fri, 10 Dec 2004 3:14pm
DOOMHAMMER
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I read the entire oderus article on http://www.blabbermouth.net a month ago, it was good times. He also went off about slipknot being bitches, something about how the lead singer said it was hard in thier coustumes and some other shit. - Fri, 10 Dec 2004 5:31pm
Tragedy
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http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/index.aspx - Fri, 10 Dec 2004 5:49pm
stefan
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its pretty sick how you guys think itd be funny if linkin park or creed got gunned down, just cause you dont like them. i dont like pantera at all, in fact i quite disslike them but i still think its fucking sick and pathetic that Dimebag and all the other that were killed got gunned down.. and there sure as fuck wont be no party at my place for it... pretty sad attitudes - Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:38pm
DestroyeR
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I think most people are just trying to lighten things up. Somthing you might want to look into. - Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:41pm
stefan
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i guess i just dont find people being gunned down too funny, no matter what band their in. and i have no probleme with lightening things up, i just dont find picturing linkin park gettin their heads blown off on stage and then having a party for it too funny. sorry - Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:15pm
jay brown
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hmm, I have in fact had a few of my friends gunned down, a couple of which happened while I was within spitting distance and i gotta tell you i agree. Talking about that shit in a hollywood movie kind of way is funnny as hell sometimes, but watch it happen and see how funny it is..... But hey on the other side of the fence i agree sometimes people just need to lighten an uncomfortable situation, why do you think I tell people to stop looking at my cock all the time hmm?........ I mean really do you think I want anyones eyes to ever reallly leave my cock? - Sat, 11 Dec 2004 1:49am
Captain Makeout
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Did someone up there actually say that people that didn't like Dimebag shouldn't post on this thread? Wow... people are fucked up.

And as far a celebraties being shot goes... I really don't get why people get weepy about this stuff. If a rich white guy dies it is not to made light of? Anyone who puts themselves in the public eye is knowingly dehumanizing themselves to all but the most deluded. And furthermore... it must be a hard life when your so emotionally attached to celebs, I mean you'll get so upset when Brad and Jennifer break up.

But back to this Dimebag shit... Hrmmm... I wonder what that confederate flag on his guitar is all about... - Sat, 11 Dec 2004 11:36am
XY-SATAN
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Hey yea dumb fuck this is a little more then Brad and Jen breaking up it's about a person who influenced a lot of young guitarist and was shot in the face whilst performing and dieing . Who the fuck are you to tell others who or what they should deem important in their lives ? For fucks sake should we go through life as automatons and never bend to outside influences ? And in some way you’re saying that you disserve or brought it on yourself to be shot or attacked just because you may be in the public eye . NO ONE deserves to have their life snuffed out in such a useless act . So if you can’t see that people loved or respected Dime for his accomplishment how about you show a little compassion for the 24 year old concert goer who was shot dead just for going to a concert and enjoying a band he loves or is he deemed useless and not worthy of mourning for because in your eyes he has useless thoughts and influences ?

And Dime was from Texas where they still use the confederate flag in some area and the flag is also a rebel symbol but you and I know you’re just trying to poison Dimes character , very inappropriate at this time . - Sat, 11 Dec 2004 2:14pm
The One After Two
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Growing up, a lot of friends were huge Pantera fans, went to shows, bought the albums, wore the t-shirts and all that fun stuff. It sucks that someone would do this, even worse, they then took their anger out on the fans and stage crew... I can sort of understand, you have an issue with Dimebag (as crazy as it is) but to kill other people... not right. Good on that cop for making a snap call ending the insanity. One shot. - Sat, 11 Dec 2004 2:38pm
_Griphin_
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That fuckin' sucks! Some stupid fuck decided to end the live of Dimebag Darryl! Even the way he died really sucks, and what's worse, happened when I was in hospital!!! - Sat, 11 Dec 2004 2:43pm
Ass
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Wow Jay
Everytime I see or hear you talk it reminds me of how fuckign cool you are. - Sat, 11 Dec 2004 2:55pm
jay brown
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wow you are an ass huh. - Sat, 11 Dec 2004 8:11pm
Captain Makeout
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Did you even read my post Xy? At no point did I say that he deserved to be shot. Nor did I say that celebrities in general deserve to be shot. No, I said that celebrities deserve to have people's opinions voiced about that, regardless of that celebrities feelings or their fans. Nor did I say that people in general deserve to be shot. These are conclusions that you came to on your own, because you're a psychotic.

Or at least terribly dumb.

And at no point did I attempt to tell anyone what they should care about. I said I "don't get" why people care. Again you seem to have invented this all in your head. Possibly because your illiterate. I'm not certain.

What I was calling into question was why celebrities get such an outpouring of emotion? Obviously it's not because of a human empathy for death. We don't go on message boards and talk about how sad we are when some gang member gets shot. Or someone dies of aids.

So then is it because we're somewhat familiar with their persona or work they've produced. If that's the case then it doesn't seem that noble. Something's always bothered me about people claiming association through morning when people die. Those that are truly close, are unlike on a message board posting their grief, and screaming that those who don't like the departed should cease to speak on the matter.

I think dimebag made shitty music. But even if he was genius, I would like to think I wouldn't be trying to compete to show my grief, nor exagerating the role he's play on my (or most) lives while caught up in emotion.

And as for the Confederate flag, it does stand for southern pride, but that's routed in their past, and a past they did not willingly give up. And a past that I find disgusting. There is no way Dimebag Darel did not know the implication of that flag. - Sat, 11 Dec 2004 8:33pm
Dr.DoomXXX
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Everyone who didn't "willingly give up" the fight died over a century ago. I'm sure they like to brandish the confederate flag because they're proud southerners who don't get a lot of respect from the top half of the country. You don't even live there. Get over it. - Sat, 11 Dec 2004 9:26pm
DOOMHAMMER
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I thought it meant dukes of hazzard.

I never liked that stupid show, thats why I was always against it - Sat, 11 Dec 2004 9:30pm
Captain Makeout
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Well, again, as I said in my earlier post, it does stand for southern pride and I recognize that. However you also have to take a look at what they have pride in. There are other ways to garnish respect than clinging to questionable symbols. Say, being in a globally popular band. East German's who feel disrespected that cling to the swastika are still (at very least) fair came to scrutiny. AGAIN what I'm saying is he must have been aware of the connotations and at very least didn't care.

Your right I don't live there. Does that mean that people who didn't live in South Africa shouldn't have paid attention to apartheid? I'm not really sure what your trying to say. Get over what? Racism? - Sat, 11 Dec 2004 11:22pm
Dr.DoomXXX
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I won't argue that even though not orginally, the swastika does stand for a sybol of racism. but I wouldn't say the same about confederate flag. Not that I'm really trying to defend american flags but I do think that people misplace acusations of racism a lot these days to try and put it out there that they're not racist and I can't really hold it against them too much because I had a habit of doing the same thing when I was younger. But at the same time I do get a little defensive for the acused. when I was 16 I decided to shave my head just for the fuck of it and everywhere I went people gave me dirty looks and sieg hails. When I walked past a black person typically I would be givin a look like I was about to get my ass kicked from someone who had the same hair cut as me, but assumed it was not O.K. for me because I'm white. It's not fair to assume that all the people who lived in the south during the "civil" war felt the same way as the slave drivers anymore than it is to assume that every one in the states is all for the war on Iraq. I don't think that Pantera ever sat around and debated wether it was really going to be considered apropriate to wear something that may offend the hyper sensitive. I never said get over racism. It was in referance to a flag which I don't consider to be a symbol of racism. If you see a flag with a swastika or 3 K's on it or something you can bash it all you want with no argument from me. - Sun, 12 Dec 2004 7:23pm
XY-SATAN
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A little off topic , but I'll get that msn account open Dr.DoomXXX and I'll E-mail it to yea man . - Sun, 12 Dec 2004 8:14pm
DOOMHAMMER
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The word swastika is derived from the Sanskrit स्वस्तिक, svastika, meaning any lucky or auspicious object, and in particular a mark made on persons and things to denote good luck. It is composed of su- (cognate with Greek ευ-), meaning "good, well" and asti a verbal abstract to the root as "to be"; svasti thus means "well-being". The suffix -ka forms a diminutive, and svastika might thus be translated literally as "little thing associated with well-being", corresponding roughly to "lucky charm".

The swastika appears in art and design throughout human history, symbolising many different things — luck, Surya (the sun), Brahma, or the Hindu concept of samsara. In fact, the swastika is used primarily as a religious symbol by Hindus – it was first mentioned in the Vedas, the holy texts of Hinduism – but transferred to other Indic religions like Buddhism and Jainism. It also occurs in other Asian, European, and Native American cultures – sometimes as a simple geometrical motif, sometimes as a religious symbol. The almost universally positive meanings of the swastika were subverted in the early twentieth century when it was adopted as the emblem of the National Socialist German Workers Party. Since World War II, most Westerners see it as solely a fascist symbol, leading to incorrect assumptions about its pre-Nazi use and its use in other cultures.

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Your argument sucks Dr. Doom, because its same thing. The swastika was never a racist symbol before hitler, so would you agree that using swastikas today is ok because it has relevance in human history?

Fact is the confederate flag was born of racist thoughts, ideals, and actions, making it even worse than the actual swastika (for the swastika was a sign of good originally, and the confederate flag has always been one of greed and self glory).

As to the shaved head, I can understand why you would get dirty looks. If people starting wearing red hats and hitting people in the faces with baseball bats, im pretty sure everyone would be pretty fucking weary of people in red hats.

Too many white trash fucks have used the shaved head as a sign of hate and bonding against others for it not to come up as a possibility in peoples minds. - Sun, 12 Dec 2004 11:39pm
Danny Silverfish
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True but hey skinheads like the swastika were originally positive.shitty how those who throw the dirt around (ie nazis) get the lime light and be the final say on cultural icons or peoples movements. - Mon, 13 Dec 2004 3:01am
The One After Two
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I agree with the DOOMHAMMER, want to be a rebel? Pick a better symbol. Confed flag is a symbol of oppression, not freedom.

same goes for the Swastika. I am sure somewhere else it was something special, but now... pick something else. - Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:36pm
Rubber Box
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WOW!!! all this over a fucking sticker. I didnt know this thread was about the mans beliefs. - Mon, 13 Dec 2004 2:50pm
XY-SATAN
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Dimes being buried in this

http://www.kissonline.com/kasket/

He loved kiss ( Ace) and asked to be planted in one of these . - Mon, 13 Dec 2004 4:02pm
SentencedtoBurn
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On another equally sad note, today is the 3 year anniversary of Chuck Schuldiner's last day on Earth.

R.I.P. Chuck and Dime - Mon, 13 Dec 2004 4:14pm
DOOMHAMMER
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Fuck caskets

Cremation is the only way to go - Tue, 14 Dec 2004 3:09am
K.Kaos
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This is the way I will always remember Dimebag - Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:06am
K.Kaos
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Unlike this god aweful pic - holy shit - check out Vinnie! - Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:08am
DestroyeR
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HA, ha hahahah. When the Eagle crys. hahahaha. - Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:54am
Kimberleykaos
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Damage Plan 911 Call - http://www.bangedup.com/bu_posts/damageplan911zz.wma

And, May Dimebag's bag burn eternal - Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:48am
Kimberleykaos
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CHECK OUT THIS very interesting pre-death interview w/ Phil Anselmo saying how Dimebag should be "severly beaten"

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=29847

Mind you, I would still spend eternity with him if he only asked. - Tue, 14 Dec 2004 4:37pm
Dr.DoomXXX
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Well doomhammer, ill admit you know way more about swastikas than I did. but back to the shaved head, I'm sure there's people who think that it would be just fine for a white guy to get beet down just because some one chose to get the wrong idea. Anyone who can't see what's racist about that is an idiot. There's too many people who assume that if some one is from the south and talks with a southern accent is racist. Too many times I've heard people go right off about how they hate racism and prejudice and then follow it up with "I hate German's".
If you assume that everyone with a red hat is gonna beet you down than that's prejudice. It means to pre-judge based on little or irelevant information. Just for the record I've lived in Victoria for 25 years now and I have'nt heard a lot of reports of shaved headed people going around attacking people. - Tue, 14 Dec 2004 9:43pm
jay brown
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well for starters it's spelled beat. If you want to learn about swastikas go check this guy out, http://www.manwoman.net/ , he has covered his body in swastika tattoos and none of them are racist. As for the south sure there are racist people there if people didnt do something to perpetuate the stereotype at some level it wouldnt exist in the first place. Everyone knows what the confederate flag stands for in peoples minds nowadays. The same as germans, sure not everyone from the south is in the clan and not everyone from germany is a nazi, not even close, but hey come on ever heard of the third reich, it didnt just happen by accident while the whole country was looking the other way. As for shaved head people beating people up here you havent been paying very close attention then have you. What about when all the nazi skinheads here back in the mid nineties were pamphleting white power literature at the schools here. it was in the papers so you mustnt of paid attention there huh. How about when they were beating up all the black and indian people downtown, hell they even held down a jamacian kid in front of mcdonalds and threatened to skin him cause they said there had to be a white man under there somewhere. What about when everyone got sick of skinheads back in the nineties and everyone went to their house with baseball bats and clubs and called them out and the big rumble happened right in the parking lot behind where the 50/50 arts collective is now. There were at least a dozen people hospitalized in that incident and because it happened right across the street from the times columnist it was the front page the next day. There have been nazi skinheads in this city since the mid eighties your just not looking hard enough. Hell they are so in your face there used to be one here a couple years ago that had, I'll Kill You, tattooed across his forehead. Then of course back in the eighties when the toronto skins came out west there was Amen that had a swastika tattooed between his eyes. These people arent that hard to notice, just open your eyes and really look around you. But that shit is all way off topic, this thread aint about that it's about remembering someone..... - Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:02pm
Dr.DoomXXX
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You're right this shit is all way off topic. maybe we'll all just have to agree to disagree. For the record I don't remember seeing any skinheads in this city. If they were around doing all that shit, me not seeing them wasn't my fault for "not looking hard enough", I just didn't see them. I also never read a paper back then so it didn't matter what was on the front page. If some one had decided to physically take out their assumptions on me when I had a shaved head just for being white it would have been wrong regardless of what anyone has to say. - Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:43pm
Tragedy
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Everybody just shut the HELL up, hey? HEY??

THIS ONE'S FOR DIME!!

And this one, and that one...and those ones...

RIP #1!! - Wed, 15 Dec 2004 5:49pm
DOOMHAMMER
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yes

lets celebrate his death by stopping thinking, getting rid of any intelligent thoughts, and honor him that way

fuckers dead, people feel remorse, discussion is good. shouldnt have happened, actions of a bitch, but I for one enjoy whats been said for the most part here. - Thu, 16 Dec 2004 4:38am
Masturbating The War God
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Hey, you were up too, I should have been at work, but I slept through the alarm, fuck. - Thu, 16 Dec 2004 6:26am
Mutilashawn
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I shaved my hair because I have messy, unmanageable, curly hair . . . not because of a political agenda. hahaha

That is kind of sickening about what Jay said. That many skinheads in this town? You learn something new everyday about this not-so-quiet little town. From the Black migration from San Francisco to escape slavery and racism in the 1800's; to Satanist grave desecrations in Ross Bay and now skinheads . . . holy shit. - Thu, 16 Dec 2004 9:21am
Kimberleykaos
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CONSERVATIVE DICKHEAD SAYS DIMEBAG "CONTRIBUTED TO CULTURE OF DEATH" THAT SPAWNED HIS KILLER -
http://www.bangedup.com/news/index.php
Worth the long read, and telling him what you think of him afterwards @ [email protected] - Thu, 16 Dec 2004 4:08pm
Nik Olaz
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i think that article was not supposed to be taken seriously, it contradicts itself and just comes off as so humorous. it's tongue-in-cheek. - Thu, 16 Dec 2004 4:30pm
XY-SATAN
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…said parchment just puts more hatred in heart,
that deep vile hatred that makes your stomach turn,
on pitchfork tongues that make you want to kill,
raging putrid foul hatred that you never speak of,
pushing down till you can taste the vile in the back of your throat,

*swallows deeply

bring it on motherfucker, you only make us stronger. - Thu, 16 Dec 2004 5:49pm
Captain Makeout
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Why is it that when someone dies, they are immediately immune to scrutiny? - Thu, 16 Dec 2004 8:24pm
XY-SATAN
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Why is it that when someone dies, they are immediately open to scrutiny ?

..or do you mean the scrutiny on someone who has died and can’t answer for themselves?
.. or maybe you mean the scrutiny that no one really cares about but others persist on ?
.. or could it be the scrutiny that makes you seem a little above everyone ?
.. or for sure it has to be the scrutiny that doesn't amount to fuck all in the big scheme of things ?
Hmmm..? I guess I’ll have to scrutinize that for awhile . - Thu, 16 Dec 2004 8:31pm
DOOMHAMMER
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Pointless arguement, Hitler was scrutinized like a mofo after he died, and you wouldnt give a fuck

Im against celebrities and the general feeling that someone else is better than you. Fucking guy had a long run of beer, chicks, and over excess, I fucking dont feel sorry for the guy, as he experienced more than I probably will.

He didnt deserve to be shot in the face, but he doesnt deserve anyones pity or feelings - Fri, 17 Dec 2004 1:06pm
XY-SATAN
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Hitler caused genocide and Dime had a confederate flag on his guiter ..oh fuck man I see your point !

The Trial

Good morning, Worm your honor.
The crown will plainly show
The prisoner who now stands before you
Was caught red-handed showing feelings
Showing feelings of an almost human nature.
This will not do.
Call the schoolmaster!
I always said he'd come to no good
In the end your honor.
If they'd let me have my way I could have
Flayed him into shape.
But my hands were tied,
The bleeding hearts and artists
Let him get away with murder.
Let me hammer him today.

The guy had some great times and partied as damn hard as any of us would have, but he got there from hard work and perseverance . He was respected and loved by a small demographic and he never pretended he was something he wasn't , just a drinking , partying, guitar player. - Fri, 17 Dec 2004 1:46pm
Død[]Sanger
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"Fucking guy had a long run of beer, chicks, and over excess, I fucking dont feel sorry for the guy, as he experienced more than I probably will"

I see where you're coming from DH, however, what if Dimebag was one of your major musical influences???

He was/is to meny...

Darryl was responsible for the fact that countless people even picked up an axe for the first time...

To meny(not all of course) this fucker is the proverbial ozzy osbourne of thrash guitar...

Sooo meny people's first solo was one of dimebag's, and for that alone, any metal fan should at least have some respect for the brother...

I mean come on...

It's not like we're talking about Danni Filth here or anything... ;) - Fri, 17 Dec 2004 2:48pm
_Griphin_
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It's bad enuff that someone died the way Darryl did . But at least Darryl died doing something he loved!!! Thumbs up! - Sun, 19 Dec 2004 1:29pm
ML7Mike
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here's one to tear apart..

http://music.pitch.com/issues/2004-12-23/music/interview3.html - Thu, 23 Dec 2004 6:33pm
Wig
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a little cruel... but the truth hurts. - Thu, 23 Dec 2004 7:35pm
XY-SATAN
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Hey Mike the writer of that article definitely has a hate on for Dime and it IS like the John Lennon murder except twice fold, contrary to his opinion .First I've ever heard of a incident of this magnitude , for fucks sake the guy was blown away performing !
Any fucking who ,the writer of that article I would think is from a different generation and anything suggesting comparisons to John is like sacrilege in his eyes and John was kind of a media darling ,kind of that last gasp from the 60's peace and love generation .
What's perplexing is one generation loses a icon in a horrific way and it's a tragedy, but the icon gets murdered from another generation in the most sickening manor and just gets shit on even before his body is cold ?
I guess that's what they mean by a generation gap , you’d think those stinking hippies would understand generation gaps being their from the peace and love generation? But now they’re driving their Beamers , getting hair plugs , joined the establishment and have become what they’ve hated . John would have set them straight if he was still alive on this world, but alas money is their icon now .

"The Thing I Hate (P.O.M.F.)"

Lost in a world of doubt and insecurity
Nothing that you hold sacred, nothing you believe
Your life is a contradiction
While you thrive on manipulation
I fight to just hold on to what I believe
I won't become the thing I hate
I won't become the thing I hate
I won't become the thing I hate
I won't become you

You've treated me like I'm a worthless piece of shit
You think you're in control but you make me sick
I want to watch you suffer
The way that you've made me suffer
I want to fuck up everything you've ever loved

I won't become the thing I hate
I won't become the thing I hate
I won't become the thing I hate
I won't become you
I won't become the thing I hate
I won't become the thing I hate
I won't become the thing I hate
I won't become the thing I hate
I won't become the thing I hate
I won't become you


Stabbing westward



A little cruel, but the truth hurts ?

Go ahead pick at his bones if it makes yea happy. - Thu, 23 Dec 2004 7:51pm
Dr.DoomXXX
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Hey Wig, just wondering, is your name short for wigger? - Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:29pm
Wig
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wigger
wig rodman
wig torture
big wig

i'm not picking at his bones, i only read the article as you did, i din't know fuck all about the guy before he was killed so i'm not even really sure if it is the truth.
it's shitty that dimebag was killed, I always knew he was a very talented guitar player, but you can't compare it to John Lennon only similarity is that it happened on the same day.
Unless you have lived a somewhat perfect life, people are always going bring up the shit you did in the past after your dead.
He did party to excess and Pantera was once great and really very few people have ever heard of damage plan.
To bad the fucker that shot him was shot dead. I would love to know his full story, has there been any discoveries about the crazed gun man that would shed light on his actions.

(never meant to offend) - Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:52pm
ML7Mike
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hahaha! Wig you wigger! - Fri, 24 Dec 2004 1:08pm
ROSS B AY
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wiggerwiggerwiggerwiggerwiggerwigger - Fri, 24 Dec 2004 1:14pm
Kimberleykaos
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You never answered my question Wigster. Get the fuck on it. - Fri, 24 Dec 2004 1:51pm
Kimberleykaos
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Actually, MR.BAY, you never answered mine either - are those colors free and when will they be done? I could always model it before my skateslut session at the show. - Fri, 24 Dec 2004 1:53pm
ROSS B AY
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'fraid colours gots to be earned. - Fri, 24 Dec 2004 2:15pm
XY-SATAN
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Well Wigster if yea never new much about the guy, then why say "the truth hurts"? You're listening to a perspective from a person who has a bone to pick ( lol!) about comparisons with Johns death and career . I could tell you stories about John and things he's done ( or accused of doing) in his past far worse then drinking and drugging and they fried him after his death too . But what would be the purpose of doing that ?
These guys were human like the rest of us and are susceptible to all the evils that life may bring, we all have our skeletons and things in the past we may regret or not .
Both where special in their own way and comparisons shouldn't come into play . John was the social conscience for a generation and I loved the guy for that , that was his shtick . Dime my have been a party animal and had views that may not be PC , but that doesn't take away his ability to shred or lessen his influence on many the young player sitting in their room emulate Dimes riffs and in turn influencing another generation .
I’ve heard nothing but positive things about Dime from people who have met him the guy was genuine and approachable just like John, maybe in different ways. Each had his own purpose and abilities and a shame that both where taken out in such a violent manner . - Fri, 24 Dec 2004 8:11pm
_Griphin_
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Nobody deserves to die the way Darryl did. - Sat, 25 Dec 2004 11:39am
Dr.DoomXXX
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I can't believe some people are trying to disrespect the guy for being a drinker. Being a party animal is part of the rock star life style. Drinking beer and smoking weed is not something that Canadians should be bitching about.
*toke* *guzzle*

aaaaaaaah....Christmas weed - Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:15pm
the pine tree savage
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He may be dead, but Pantera's music lives forever.
So heres a big thanx to one of my favorite groups.
PANTERA - Sat, 25 Dec 2004 11:54pm
XY-SATAN
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Some pics



http://www.rockconcertfotos.com/damageplan20042/imagepages/RockfordDime0979.html

http://www.rockconcertfotos.com/damageplan20042/imagepages/RockfordDamageplan1177.html - Sun, 26 Dec 2004 2:12am
Kimberleykaos
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Good call on the thanks to PANTERA - and how interesting your collective sounds PINE TREE SAVAGE, would love to see/hear sometime. Let us all know of any happenings where we might catch this. - Sun, 26 Dec 2004 10:37am
Isolation Ride
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Fuckin Eh! - Sun, 26 Dec 2004 10:52am
Pine Tree Savage
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Awwww thanx for the interest. All you guys can kick me in the growin anytime. - Sun, 26 Dec 2004 4:07pm
Wig
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OH?

So what is John Lennon accussed of? - Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:41am
Dr.DoomXXX
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Didn't he smoke a joint in the bathroom at Queen Elizabeths? - Mon, 27 Dec 2004 3:36pm
XY-SATAN
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http://radar.smh.com.au/cgi-bin/mt3/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=465;parent_id=13020 - Tue, 28 Dec 2004 3:14am
Wig
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a little cruel... but the truth hurts.

no wait! that wasn't crue at all.

i like this paragraph from the article...

You shouldn't expect too much from the people who provide you with your entertainment or art whatever it may be. Because - as John Lennon himself said - "The higher you fly the deeper you go...take it easy...everybody's got something to hide except for me and my monkey." - Tue, 28 Dec 2004 11:36am
DOOMHAMMER
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http://mfile.akamai.com/2838/wmv/cablev.download.akamai.com/2838/fuse/uranium/2004-12-28_anselmo_hi.asx - Tue, 28 Dec 2004 9:35pm
XY-SATAN
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http://mfile.akamai.com/2838/wmv/cablev.download.akamai.com/2838/fuse/uranium/2004-12-28_lachman_hi.asx - Wed, 29 Dec 2004 1:40pm
mike
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Dimebag was arguably the most innovative, heaviest, stylistic, and technical metal guitarists of all time. He was too dedicated to his art to in any way deserve the fate that was to some degree the result of rumours, drugs, egos, and heavy metal media bullshit, but mostly guns and extremism. An incident which really isn't that surprising if you know anything about the country and the band; the social environment of the united states has a tendency to rear psychopaths and fanatics, who do stupid things with guns which are easily purchased. Besides which, the most important thing to remember when Morom decides to start talking shit about those expressing their grief, is that to those fans who were really affected by the music, Pantera was and always will be A FUCKING WAY OF LIFE!!!!!! - Wed, 29 Dec 2004 9:32pm
XY-SATAN
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http://www.washburn.com/news/press_releases/dimenews.htm - Thu, 30 Dec 2004 3:10am
_Griphin_
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Yes I remember when I first heard Cowboys From Hell, it was different and LOUD! Sure a lot better then the album(s) they released before that. Even the first song and the opening riff still rocks my world!!! Odd how without the CD next to me I can still remember the songs to that album (and probably the others). What a cool website listed before this message!!! - Sat, 1 Jan 2005 10:55am
XY_SATAN
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Video of shooting taken from inside the club .

It doesn't show much , but it could be upsetting, please be warned !!!!




http://www.newsnet5.com/video/4009432/detail.html - Mon, 3 Jan 2005 2:03pm
Trican
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whos pantara?



jk lol ... i'm so 1337 w00t - Mon, 3 Jan 2005 7:20pm
Name/Alias
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Was Big Val killed too??? I didn't hear anything about that!!! Does anyone know? - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:54am
Kimberleykaos
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Yup. - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 1:02am
SickFuk
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hold on... Big Val was killed?!?!?!?!?

In the Phil Anselmo interview in the other thread he makes reference to the Kat, who was the drum tech... but big val?????

'ere - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 1:30am
Kimberleykaos
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I recall hearing that in the very begining, and on Lance's news tape there, it also stated it, I thought I heard, complete with pic of him {just norm pic, no splatters or nothin}. Sad, but I think true. - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:07am
the pine tree savage
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Does anyone know of any special releases coming out in the future, Any unreleased material?
I know Nirvana released some of their stuff, but it took a long time after Curt offed himself. Just wondering.
Oh yeah Pantera used to be glam-rockish, what are some of their past Band aliases, before they became PANTERA, just wondering, I want to collect more of their stuff.

Oh yeah Willy Nelson just died, Aparrently he was playing on the road again, and got hit by a truck. - Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:19am
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That joke was unimpressive when I was 7 and it's unimpressive now. - Wed, 5 Jan 2005 5:42pm
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feral song,
the voice of idols fervered hands,
forever lost. - Fri, 7 Jan 2005 2:51am
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