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How Heavy is Heavy?
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| Codine Vandal User Info... | This forum page is dedicated to heavy music discussion. So I put it to you,the people:How heavy is Heavy? What bands would fall into this category? - Sat, 25 Sep 2010 11:47am | ||
| Uncle Twodog User Info... | The Perish - Sat, 25 Sep 2010 4:11pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... |  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea-P8kaFdvA&feature=related - Sat, 25 Sep 2010 5:34pm | ||
| MC -K.N.Z. User Info... | now seriously....! But definitely not S.O.N. - Sat, 25 Sep 2010 5:38pm Edited: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 5:39pm | ||
| Evangelium User Info... | The Hartless, Lust Boys, and Stryper. - Sat, 25 Sep 2010 8:28pm | ||
| MC -K.N.Z. User Info... | Oh ....I get it now... The Bangles,Right said Fred,and weird Al. - Sun, 26 Sep 2010 10:43am | ||
| toto mustache User Info... | the Autopsy was weak... growling blah blah blah... seriously check out the intense crowd and huge horn/ fiddle section and back up vocals... as soon as that piano starts MY HEAD STARTS BANGING!!! although Billy Joel and all that meat is pretty freakin heavy too... Rule 62 - Sun, 26 Sep 2010 5:35pm Edited: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 5:36pm | ||
| MC -K.N.Z. User Info... | I can't stand your peoples sarcasm.......I'm out of here. - Sun, 26 Sep 2010 9:44pm | ||
| Codine Vandal User Info... | Well I was trying to have serious discussion about this.I was watching Much Loud(not the best reference,I know) and the music that they call "Loud" seems to be extremely varied between light stuff and heavy stuff. What's your opinion on this? - Mon, 27 Sep 2010 8:53am | ||
| ricky JaK User Info... | ahhh sorry.... but if you really take into consideration the production that went into the ToTo song it is pretty heavy... but we all have different tastes... This message board is great and we get to share our musical finds. In the old days i would take the buss downtown and go to the record stores and all-age gigs and meet other like minded people... and then we would share a mixed tape! Now here we are on the internet and the face to face music enthusiast contact is non exhistant. If you where to meet me and see my facial expressions when i told you that ToTo was heavy you would laugh. humor and sarcasm is fun and healthy... thus Rule 62.... anyway in regards to HEAVY lets get serious... here's a message link i started awhile back. some of the youtubes are HEAVY!!! cheers to you all love- Ricky JaK http://livevictoria.com/index.php?&action=load_mb&new_subject=1053067¤t_board=16&search_string=ricky jak&search_time_limit=360&search_board_section=16 - Mon, 27 Sep 2010 9:29am Edited: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 9:35am | ||
| Codine Vandal User Info... | On a side note my band, Sons of Nova, is definitely as heavy as Kyuss or Unida, so I'm pretty sure we are at least stoner rock/metal.Kyuss is one of our biggest influences,but say what you will... - Mon, 27 Sep 2010 9:59am Edited: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:00am | ||
| MC -K.N.Z. User Info... | Putting S.O.N. in with Kyuss.....Just wrong....There is no way in hell you even come close......Fuck you are all fucked with the big head thing I can tell......S.O.N. is right up there with the Perish though... - Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:19pm | ||
| Codine Vandal User Info... | Look dude if you want a ticket to our show Oct. 15th at the V Lounge just ask. otherwise you just look like an ass ripping on a band you've never seen live. - Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:27am | ||
| MC -K.N.Z. User Info... | Okay...I'll give you that,I have never seen you live.But I have herd the stuff you have on line.Not my thing....Although I love Kyuss ,can't say the same for your band.I have written a lot of stoner heavy rock songs and plan on recording sometime in the near future.You are more then welcome to state your opinion when the time comes.Till then,I think I'll pass on the ticket.....thanks though. - Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:26pm Edited: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:27pm | ||
| ricky jak User Info... | so where's the link to you two dudes music... is it heavy? myspace? what are your influences besides Kyuss? still my all time fave for maximum loud heavy... http://www.myspace.com/earthridedoom Locally I enjoyed Rotterdam and Bronze and Doorway. - Tue, 28 Sep 2010 4:18pm Edited: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 4:24pm | ||
| Codine Vandal User Info... | http://www.myspace.com/sonsofnova It's pretty old at this point and a lot of stuff has changed but that's our latest recording.Mostly our influences come from everywhere but we listen to a lot of kyuss, our drummer specifically, myself it's queens of the stone age,and our other guitarist loves hardcore superstar.our bassist listens to just about everything so it's an eclectic mix of stuff.i do a lot of the writing though. - Tue, 28 Sep 2010 7:18pm Edited: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 7:39pm | ||
| MC -K.N.Z. User Info... | Eclectic Fail! - Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:32am Edited: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:37am | ||
| Dopebilly User Info... | we ain't heavy but we are loud.... http://www.myspace.com/thebullbucker and one should never compare themselves to Kyuss (except mayhaps Low Rider) as there is only one kyuss and they are called black sabbath. now for the real question is Kyuss really heavy? and how much did they weigh? - Thu, 30 Sep 2010 6:48pm | ||
| Dopebilly User Info... | didn't the perish compare themselves to kyuss once..hahahaha! - Thu, 30 Sep 2010 6:50pm | ||
| The Omaha Slinger User Info... | Necrophagist?!? - Fri, 1 Oct 2010 3:21pm | ||
| Codine Vandal User Info... | i didn't say we were comparing ourselves to kyuss.i said we were as heavy. not saying musically we are the same as a lot of other influences come into our band.but no matter what i say you'll find some way to twist it or manipulate it to whatever you want,then you'll make some unintelligent comment where you spell things wrong and make no point. Necrophagist IMO is definitely heavy. What i'm looking for is what would be the lightest music you'd still consider to be heavy.black metal/death metal aside, what's the lightest band you'd still consider worthy of being called heavy? Metallica?Stone Sour?Avenged Sevenfold? - Fri, 1 Oct 2010 3:41pm | ||
| steve User Info... | That 'Gimme a kiss' song on your myspace is/could be pretty heavy. I think if that was cleaned up a bit the usual suspects might cut back on the negativity a bit.. maybe. ps. I would give my third nut to hear grimtards 'stoner rock' songs.. - Fri, 1 Oct 2010 3:59pm | ||
| The Omaha Slinger User Info... | Metal bands aside, I would have to vote for John Zorn (check out the Naked City track that I have attached)... I saw him perform with Electric Masada a few years ago in Belgium, which was amazing. Some of his stuff can definitely be considered "heavy." He's also collaborated a bit with Mike Patton. - Fri, 1 Oct 2010 4:16pm | ||
| MC -K.N.Z. User Info... | Helter skelter Is heavy Fuckface...... - Fri, 1 Oct 2010 9:31pm | ||
| Codine Vandal User Info... | i was talking a little more current than the 1960's,but yeah helter skelter is a heavy song. - Fri, 1 Oct 2010 9:43pm | ||
| Uncle Twodog User Info... | I would give Steve's third nut to hear the Grimpants' stoner rock songs.. - Fri, 1 Oct 2010 10:14pm | ||
| Trevcore User Info... | seriously I bet they're good. - Fri, 1 Oct 2010 10:17pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | I think you guys are fairly heavy(sons of nova? sp?)... though my only feedback I could give is maybe put more focus on your vocal melodies; I know its hard to play and sing at the same time(and being unique all while doing this)... I dont mean this in a negative way; I think your rhythm is good but the vocals could use a little more work.(im not saying you have a bad voice, just use it differently... have you taken vocal lessons? breathing technique? if not, you should think about it... it'll help a ton!) - Sat, 2 Oct 2010 1:21pm | ||
| Codine Vandal User Info... | holy crap,i think that's the first time someone didn't just rip on us for no good reason. thanks for the CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. those demos are kinda old at this point though and to make matters worse,my recording program went to shit right after we got some rough vocal takes done, so i couldn't go back and edit or redo them. we are planning on doing something more formal soon but we didn't think it was worth the hassle to re-record stuff we aren't gonna use in a couple months anyway. but you're right ,no excuses. if anyone wants to see us live though we are playing the V Lounge on October 15th.to all who've never seen us come and see us,i dare you.you won't be talking shit about us after you do i can tell you that. - Sat, 2 Oct 2010 1:37pm | ||
| MC -K.N.Z. User Info... | The only reason I talk shit is cuz sometimes you come across like a bit of an ass ,and try and rub SHIT in our face.That's all.Other than that, I don't totally hate your band. - Sat, 2 Oct 2010 6:17pm | ||
| steve User Info... | Maybe Grim you and Codine are stuck in a vicious cycle.. he's an ass cause you're an ass.. you're an ass cause he's an ass.. I think you both should hug it out.. ass to ass. - Sun, 3 Oct 2010 10:45am | ||
| MC -K.N.Z. User Info... | Ha ha ha ha h SHUT UP!!! I'm a dick, get it right.No ,I'm really a hell of a nice guy if you where to meet me.I play it up so hard on here. - Wed, 6 Oct 2010 4:44pm Edited: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 4:45pm | ||
| steve User Info... | you and cody both.. couple softies. - Wed, 6 Oct 2010 4:56pm Edited: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 4:56pm | ||
| MC -K.N.Z. User Info... |  Cool down man..... - Wed, 6 Oct 2010 7:17pm | ||
| Codine Vandal User Info... | get a room you two! this is called live victoria no victoria singles. eh grim? - Wed, 6 Oct 2010 9:15pm | ||
| MC -K.N.Z. User Info... | Who said I was single ...haven't you seen Tawnyblond ...? - Thu, 7 Oct 2010 10:20am | ||
| Codine Vandal User Info... | i don't think i need to point out that both you and tawnyblonde share the same ip - Fri, 8 Oct 2010 10:48am | ||
| steve User Info... | thats cause they live together.. in the same house.. and some might say.. the same skin.. ewwww - Fri, 8 Oct 2010 11:21am | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | Omaha: saw Zorn with Naked City in San Fran back in '90. Crazy world tour - just three cities (NY, SF, and Tokyo). No Yamatsuka Eye, so whenever there was a vocal part, Zorn would put his sax aside, grab a mic resting on a cushion on a stool next to him, look heavenward, and belt it out almost as crazily as Y.E. would. You could tell he was from NY by the way he bested any heckler (with a smile). It was one of the most inspirational mindfuck exhibitions of heaviness I've ever seen, and I've seen my share. CV: if you like it technical, with absolutely squirrel-flattening brutality, then give this a whirl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIMW0aHN0ks&feature=fvw - Sat, 9 Oct 2010 3:37pm | ||
| Codine Vandal User Info... | i really don't even know what to say to that. fast. would i listen to it again? probably not. not enough dynamics. that style of music is heavy for sure though.but what's the least heavy band you'd consider heavy? like i saw some pretty weak bands on loud. - Sun, 10 Oct 2010 1:09am Edited: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 1:09am | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | I'll grant that my Origin example didn't display enough of the guitar pyrotechics that is prevalent in most of their tunes, but here's a bunch of bands that are so flat-out NON-HEAVY (that some have the ignorant nerve to consider otherwise) (insultingly boring "rawk", basically): Type O Negative already mentioned: Kyuss, Avenge Sevenfold Pantera Amorphis Fu Manchu Bongzilla I could go on, but this list is getting me grumpy now...... - Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:12am | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | also: I'm positive there's folks out there who'd completely disagree with that list, so feel free to tear into me if you wish...... - Sun, 10 Oct 2010 6:16pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | I'm so looking for that Atilla album, that's too cool... - Mon, 11 Oct 2010 7:55pm | ||
| Codine Vandal User Info... | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJZFb6LJ3PY&feature=related that's some heavy shit imo - Tue, 12 Oct 2010 6:56am | ||
| MC -K.N.Z. User Info... | This is a killer vid..... - Wed, 13 Oct 2010 2:46pm | ||
| Uncle Twodog User Info... | Barbara Walters, of 20/20, did a story on gender roles in Kabul Afghanistan , several years before the Afghan war. She noted that women customarily walked five paces behind their husbands. She recently returned to Kabul and observed that women still walk behind their husbands. Despite the overthrow of the oppressive Taliban regime, the women are happy to maintain the old custom. Ms. Walters approached one of the Afghani women and asked, 'Why do you now seem happy with an old custom that you once tried so desperately to change?' The woman looked Ms. Walters straight in the eyes, and without hesitation said, 'Land Mines.' - Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:08pm | ||
| GUTSFUCK User Info... | I've never heard of S.O.N., and I have no excuse to not come see you live on the 15th as I currently live down the street from those Palm trees. I would have to say that that first song in your player was not my cup of pee, but the other tracks were very promising and i would assume they are probably pulled off heavier Live. I noticed you thanked some "CONSTRUCTIVE criticism" above, so I will add, I would personally suggest a overhaul on the astetics of your myspace, had you not been a victoria band, i honestly probably wouldn't have pressed play, no offence ntended just being honest, not that it needs to have gouls N goblins or other sterotypical HEAVY METAL shit, just that there are thosands of bands to listen to in a lifetime, and thousands of them poping up everyday since Future Shop carries GEEtars, you got to have something to set yourselves apart, unless you're sponsored by those Brands I'd ditch the big Logos for one. Stoked to hear future recordings from you guys!! Stoked about the NAKED CITY response! in my opinon Painkiller is probably Zorns heaviest offering: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJzhI7bIDOc On the "HEAVY" topic, it really comes down to what comes to one's mind when the word Heavy is said.. to me it's TONE, but it could mean lyrics or how god damn epic Toto is, or how completely fucked up in general a band is like Autopsy, Replusion, Orgin ect. For me it's the TONE of the guitars, the deepness of the drums and shit like that. I saw Sunn O)) once and I have to say I've NEVER felt my Lungs rumble in my chest like that before in my life. HEEEAAAVVVYYY. And as far as Heavy in this town (active), at least for tone and live performance I would have say, Nomad : http://www.myspace.com/highassembly Shadowrun: http://www.myspace.com/shadowrundoom Stoned Eyes & Mendozza from Van are fucking heavy live too oh! and Haggatha: http://www.myspace.com/haggathaband some other bands I think r "heavy": SAINT VITUS ELECTRIC WIZARD & RAMESSES HOODED MENACE GODFLESH REVENGE NADJA WINTER MOSS I could go on... things are heavy all around... speaking of MOSS check out NIGHTFUCKER from vancouver, it's got a member from MOSS in it: http://www.myspace.com/nightfukker - Thu, 14 Oct 2010 1:31am | ||
| Codine Vandal User Info... | we are sponsored by sparrow, albeit a shitty sponsorship but we are.and i use fender and peavey.yeah the songs are heavier live and we've changed stuff, you should come down and check us out. we are debuting two new songs this friday to promote our upcoming recording.the first song on our myspace is more studio only type stuff that we wouldn't be playing live, we like to genre bend a bit.right now i'm just posting some of our rough demos, we'll have something a little more formal shortly,recording next sunday.we've had some speed bumps in the past as we used to be a 5 piece but let our singer go due to creative differences. neither of us had really sung before in bands so it's a learning curve - Thu, 14 Oct 2010 4:08am Edited: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 4:09am | ||
| The Omaha Slinger User Info... | Curmudgeon that's amazing that you got to catch Naked City live. I'm sure that was one hell of a show! Zorn is awesome - the show I caught was in 2003 with Electric Masada - unbelievable show! Flat Earth Society opened, which was also really cool. BTW GUTSFUCK, Painkiller certainly does rule! Oh, and MC -K.N.Z., there's a Behemoth documentary coming out next month - live material, documentaries, etc. Should be good! (sucks Nergal has leukemia - let's hope he can beat that MF and get back to writing some wicked tunes!) - Thu, 14 Oct 2010 1:40pm Edited: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 1:42pm | ||
| MC -K.N.Z. User Info... | I think this sounds heavy..... - Fri, 15 Oct 2010 4:58pm | ||
| Codine Vandal User Info... | So anyone manage to make it out?If so what'd you think? We (S0N) had a great time. Every band ripped it up. - Sat, 16 Oct 2010 9:43am | ||
| Uncle Twodog User Info... | Ah yes young Grassmoker, but did every member of the bands get leid? That is the true measure of success. - Mon, 18 Oct 2010 8:06pm Edited: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 8:07pm | ||
| steve User Info... | ... - Tue, 26 Oct 2010 10:39am | ||
| MC -K.N.Z. User Info... | I still can't stand this band.......Al thou the sound quality has improved ,band still sucks...... Just not my thing.... Good work Steve......but your vid is kind of annoying. - Tue, 26 Oct 2010 10:50am | ||
| Codine Vandal User Info... | Either way Grim, it's catchy . So whether you like it or not, i won't be losing any sleep. And all you heard was the first 30 seconds of the song so why don't you pass judgement when it's all there instead of being a forum troll ;) - Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:05am Edited: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:06am | ||
| MC -K.N.Z. User Info... | Okay ,okay......You can hack to shit my stuff when I put it up here.....you'll have to wait a bit more though.Good effort, and keep up the work.you'll see the pay off one day.Even if it is just a sack full of herpes. I gots the tunes and the voice that make the panties drop. - Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:52am | ||
| Codine Vandal User Info... | So you keep saying - Tue, 26 Oct 2010 4:08pm | ||
| MC -K.N.Z. User Info... | Okay....I'll shut up now. Nuff said. - Wed, 27 Oct 2010 2:39pm | ||
| Uncle Twodog User Info... | MacCrackin! - Wed, 27 Oct 2010 4:51pm Edited: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 4:53pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Anvil is heavy. METAL ON METAL... - Thu, 28 Oct 2010 1:59am | ||
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