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| PotemkinCity User Info... | a big What the FUCK to whomever p[ut this show on and prkmoted it, seriously, I didnt see one poster and the only promotion I saw was on here of all fucking places. okay for one, alot of people who would be into this show, fall into a few different cetegories. a. dont have a computer b. whats a computer? c. dont scour the internet looking for shows, its all porn, all the time. nobody even told me about this at the show on Wednesday and at least 3 dif memnbers from each band were there. don;t blame the lame-o's who didnt come out, becasue at least 3/4 of us didnt even know the show was happening. nobody involved seemed very happy with it, and alot of people are out $$$ becasue just getting the motherfuckers here cost a good deal [and likely about half of what it cost them to get here and back on the ferry, 192 each way meaning it cost them in upwards of 400 to just come here, and to my knowledge they only took 200 for the show] It's hard enough getting these bands to come here, if these shows keep happening with very dismal turnouts and absolutely NO promotion [you cant tell me any of you fucks saw a motherfuckers show poaster anywhere downtown, or otherwise] I'd liek to see pics if anyone got them, but i am thoroughly disgusted with what happened. - Thu, 9 Aug 2007 6:39pm Edited: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 6:42pm | ||
| Leo User Info... | chill out that show was sooo mega!!! loved all the bands great to see the motherfuckers again and excelllent how a.w.t. is back, had a great time broke some bones broke my shoes wtc fun to be had. SHREDDDDD!! - Thu, 9 Aug 2007 7:33pm | ||
| Ty Stranglehold User Info... | Not that an explanation is owed to anyone, but there was so mix ups and ball dropping on the poster thing. It's hard when you have to book something on your tour as you're heading out the door and into the van. last minute things sometimes get fucked up. As for The Motherfuckers, they come out here because they are friends and want to hang with L.I.D., Hoosegow and A.W.T. first and foremost. Sure, it sucks to not be able to hand them a wad of cash, but there's always next time... October, perhaps. How is it that you didn't know about the show, but you seem to know how everyone involved felt about it? Just wondering. If you're disgusted, do something about it. Put on your own gigs and show everyone how it's done. just to let you know, I am not the promoter. I just happen to be in the know. As for a review, all the bands kicked all kinds of ass as they always do. LFM had some crazy costumes going on, LID humped monitors, Motherfuckers ripped it up in a "set list on your back" kind of way. and AWT did what they do best. Tear the roof off... All in all, you can blame a lot of the poor turnout on lack of promotion (it's true), but it's also not hard to point the finger at the 30 or so crusties who sat on the lawn all night drinking (and not going in or paying). I don't much see the point of going to a show and not going to the show. blah blah blah - Thu, 9 Aug 2007 9:17pm | ||
| PotemkinCity User Info... | first and foremost i could care less about an explanation. second im not sure what you are getting at with this "" How is it that you didn't know about the show, but you seem to know how everyone involved felt about it? Just wondering. If you're disgusted, do something about it. Put on your own gigs and show everyone how it's done. just to let you know, I am not the promoter. I just happen to be in the know. "" but the first part are you saying i am lying, that i knew about it and didnt go for reasons unknown? i dont know how everyone involved felt about it, nor did i ever say that. secondly if i wanted the hassle of putting on a show, postering it, and promoting it, i assure you I would. thirdly i dont care if you were the promoter, i dont even think i ever said i wanted to know who it was, although it is easy enouigh to find out, its not rocket science, nor could i care if you are "in the know" as i am myself, "in the know" and lastly, i didnt say everyone was doing a bad job promoting shows, not once. there are amazing promoters and people who bust their ass postering and promoting, this is an isolated incident that really blew my mind. thirdly, i think ALL i ever said was that the show was promoted poorly, therefore resulting in a poor turnout and sour taste. sure those dudes are friends w/ all parties involved, and am sure they love coming to party, but the thing is, and i am not speaking for them, nor on their behalf, i just know what it's like, you dont drive out from calgary just to party and play one show... all im saying - Thu, 9 Aug 2007 11:06pm Edited: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 11:07pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | I knew about this show, but did not attend because I have a new puppy. - Fri, 10 Aug 2007 1:14am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | Like he said, man up and get involved if you're not happy. More help is always needed. - Fri, 10 Aug 2007 4:31am | ||
| PotemkinCity User Info... | well ill keep my retort short and sweet. as far as manning up, i have done quite a bit for the scene in town. in my spare time, through no gain of my own except the feeling of a job well done, I have been a workhorse for absolute underground. on top of 2 steady jobs and other commitments my schedul eis full, but if a battle cry was raised for last minte promotion, id certainly...man up... although i feel i have as much right to get defensive as any of you other guys in the scene without you telling me to man up, when you dont even know me or who i am. - Sat, 11 Aug 2007 1:49am | ||
| round em up User Info... | Don't fucking care who you are, suck it up bitch,,, - Sat, 11 Aug 2007 3:05am | ||
| Leo User Info... | good call big Ty - Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:03am | ||
| Ty Stranglehold User Info... | I'll type slower for you. I never said you were lying. from your first post: "nobody involved seemed very happy with it" I took that to mean that you knew what the people involved with it felt about it and was wondering how you knew that, but didn't know about the show. The only reason I told you that I wasn't the promoter, was strictly for clarification that I am an outside party (albeit with close ties to the people invloved, therefore "in the know"). I didn't accuse you of saying all the promoters in this town suck. I just said that you shouldn't come down on these particular promoters when you obviously don't know the whole story. The Motherfuckers didn't come out here to play one show, they were on tour with LID. Tours are like that, in that some shows crap out and some go off. They all realized that. I'm also pretty sure that Roger and the Motherfuckers would drive out from Calgary to hang out and play one show (in fact they have before), much in the same way that The Hoosegow and AWT have both driven out to Calgary for one show and the hang out with them. Again I'll say that unless you are willing to do it yourself, then you really shouldn't be complaining. - Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:50am | ||
| Jesspyscho User Info... | Hell those boys would drive out here to play NO shows but just to hang out. - Sat, 11 Aug 2007 4:22pm | ||
| canon.docre User Info... | There were about 10 'crusties' sitting outside and drinking, not 30, so that wouldn't have been the saving grace of your show. Plus, as a person who was sitting outside, I'll tell you what was going through my head while I sat on that hill, didn't come in, and DIDN'T DRINK: I'm too broke to drop $15 or so for my gf and I on coming into a show so I thought I'd come, hang outside, see some friends and catch some music through the door. Sorry that only people with money are welcome, I won't come and support next time. And alcoholism, yep, if people can't afford beer AND a show they're gonna afford the beer. That's a reality I thought punks were aware of. I just think its laughable when people are blind to how big our scene actually is and decry turnouts of 50-75 people including bands. That's how big shows are 95% of the time in Victoria. Doesn't mean it sucks, just get a venue that is operable under those numbers and start fucking sneaking bands onto the ferry (I did that for every show I put on.) House parties happen all the time in Vic .. start getting bands to play them. no venue cost = WAY more money for the bands. Just my two cents. - Sun, 12 Aug 2007 11:16am | ||
| Ty Stranglehold User Info... | I know that most of the times I looked over at the hill there was more than ten people, but that is really neither here nor there. Sitting out side drinking and hanging out with friends is not supporting the show. Don't get me wrong, I do the same thing quite often, but I don't fool myself into thinking that I am helping support anything by being there if I'm not directly paying or helping with the show in some way. - Sun, 12 Aug 2007 4:58pm | ||
| ShawnE User Info... | If anything, sitting outside gigs and drinking is counterproductive to the whole scene. Cops get called, venue owners/managers get pissed off, bands get banned from playing that venue. All it really does is create less places for bands to play in a city that is already very limited. Trying to support bands in this way, only makes it harder for them to find places to play which isn't really supporting them at all. - Mon, 13 Aug 2007 2:47pm | ||
| PotemkinCity User Info... | well i quit drinking 8 weeks ago, i dont go to shows to sit outside. i would have paid the 15 bucks to get in, my only point was since i didnt see a poster, my brain didnt register a show was going on and it was something i had to do, i avoided the computer for a while as i always do come issue deadline is over so yeah i didnt go. its not because im not supporting the scene [which i know you never said i didnt do] but its not like it is something III should be made to feel bad over, and told to get up and do something about it if i didnt like it. I dont think i dished out nearly as much attitude as either of you fellers, but thats neither hjere nor there. sitting outside and drinking away your cash, instead of going to a show, is counterproductive, and alcoholism or not, i always found a way to do both, but thats just me. as far as puttign shows on at your house, i am going to have a house, huge yard and garage october foirst and it is certainly an option. after how impressed i was w/ Graf Orlock tonight, and how well we hit it off after I'd gladly have them back around xmas, or so, maybe get some godo shows, but seriously, it wont be for free, I'll tell you that much, i could care less iuf you have to drink, everyone has bills to pay and we arenmt here to support your habits - Tue, 14 Aug 2007 1:54am | ||
| Leo User Info... | people who only get beer and cant get in the show are just lazy, yo ugot to have goonies adventures and somehow end up with enough cash for both....never failed for like 3 or 4 years now haha... HOOSEGOW! - Tue, 14 Aug 2007 2:40am | ||
| canon.docre User Info... | hmmmm, I just always found it weird that promoters think a "dry" venue is a good idea for shows that I (and a lot of other people) lovingly refer to as "drunk punk" shows. I guess the old adage "something is better than nothing" applies here. hey, I think having sober shows is a good idea for some genres .. but I would wager the amount of people who don't drink at these shows represent the minority. I've just seen so many tidy diy spaces that at least allow booze, if not sell it, in Victoria and abroad, to want to preserve these small, expensive (yet financial failures for tour gas money) shows as the status quo. But you were right, I hardly think my morale support of telling my friends in the bands "hey I came down to listen to you from outside, sorry I can't come in but I'm broke but you totally rule" outweighs the very standard "drunks are attracting cops" heat-baggery of the crew of people sitting outside drinking (while I wasn't drinking out there, I might as well have been for the years of shows I did attend and drink my ass off) so that was a pompous remark on my part. I certainly didn't support shit that night. I also don't care enough to do anything about it, other than hang outside when I can't afford door, so I can least listen to some good tunes when I'm too broke to do anything but sit in a field and bullshit with my friends on a Friday night. sheesh why am I such as asshole... - Tue, 14 Aug 2007 1:06pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Probably because you have no money to go to shows and don't drink in fields outside of shows. I'm sure there are a billion other reasons, but only you know the truth. And Pot City...you kinda came off like everyone's favorite anarchist homo Noise Not Bombs when you played the "I do so much for the scene" card. That will trigger rage every time, sir! Carry on. - Thu, 16 Aug 2007 9:36pm Edited: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 5:15am | ||
| Brittney S User Info... | Wow! Listen to all of you guys (and/or gals?) Back in the day(80's) in Victoria- the problem with punk gigs that were not all ages, was the fact that " No punks spent money on booze, they were there to LISTEN to the music", so clubs were apprehensive to put them on, due to poor alcohol sales. All agers were the way to go (re. OAP hall-RIP) , not to mention there were gigs almost every weekend at someone's house (cheap!)-with members of the local music community ENFORCING good behaviour outside. As I am (old)er and no longer live on the Westcoast- I can't help you out in anyway, except tell you guys to stop having "sudo-arguements " online with one another and work together- sober or not- for the music!J ust my 2 cents- take it or leave it- who cares? - Fri, 17 Aug 2007 3:45pm | ||
| Mean Mike User Info... | If I remember correctly, the OAP Hall was shut down due to excessive drunk punk antics :) - Sat, 18 Aug 2007 3:55am | ||
| PotemkinCity User Info... | well i dunno about how i came off or how i played the "i do so much for the scene, card" as i never even mentioned anything i did until after a few people lambasted me and t ried to tell me to get off my ass and do something if i didnt like it, and i was hardly using much attitude, i may have gone over board with a few of the caps and the anger directed towrads a nameless person, but i think in the end i was justified. I dont think i even played up that card, as you say because ive gone through my posts and dont sede where your getting it from, other than ty's fiorst retort and ross bays, two guys io have no problem with, and know vaguely on a casual level, just disdnt expect to get ostracised when in fact i am, doing alot for the scene already, but im over it. - Sat, 18 Aug 2007 8:31pm | ||
| Leo User Info... | dude thats so 80s i wish there were more people other than me who wanted to see music rather than anything else...shred! - Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:05pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | It was: "well ill keep my retort short and sweet. as far as manning up, i have done quite a bit for the scene in town." I'm not agreeing with you or them, but a lot of peope do a lot for the scene. So my point was that when something like this is said to others who also do a lot for the scene, it falls on deaf ears. - Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:44am | ||
| the jak User Info... | your fired - Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:05pm | ||
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