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| moron User Info... | RE: The Brat Attack,Passion Revolt ,Mass Grave, Bury What's Dead, ISKRA, New World On Fire @ Jesse's Warehouse 576 Hillside Ave. (industrial area) Gawdamn. Walked around in the pouring rain for a good hour looking for this show. The only people I ran into were also looking for the show and also couldn't find it. Did it get cancelled or just end really really early? If it did actually happen, that's the most sound proof warehouse of all time. Cheers - Sat, 21 Aug 2004 11:44pm | ||
| Jodi User Info... | The po po came. It got moved to the Burnside House. - Sun, 22 Aug 2004 12:31am | ||
| Masturbating The War God User Info... | Ya, showed up there at 9:30 to hear that it had been stopped, but just made our way to the Burnside House for a kick ass time. Thanks again BH, your shows are always a good time. Hope you managed to make back the money! I had to leave before Iskra, did Devon make it through the set, or fall over mid song? - Sun, 22 Aug 2004 9:57am | ||
| hunter User Info... | Suckahs should've gone to streets and hightower... it was amazing - Sun, 22 Aug 2004 11:35am | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | Fuck Iskra was rad!! New vocalist really makes them about a million times better. BWD slayed as usual, the last song was great. Mass Grave ripped it up and were better than the last time I saw them. Excellent show. Fuck tha police, fuck fuck FUCK the police . . . actually Fuck tha lame neighbours, fuck fuck FUCK the lame neighbours. - Sun, 22 Aug 2004 12:36pm | ||
| OftenBongSoong User Info... | sorry to anybody who went to the warehouse and missed the show.. the cops showed up at about 8:30 and shut the place down. we told as many people as we could before moving to our house to set up the pa. we didn't want to leave anything on the door because the cops were still hanging around when we left. the show turned out really good.. all the bands ended up playing. iskra finished up at about 1:30 in a drunken haze.. good times. sorry again about the confusion. sorry to dudes from mido who came to play.. it was just to late and the touring bands (who the pa belonged to)were tired and needed to break down there stuff. we'll make it up to you! - Sun, 22 Aug 2004 12:37pm | ||
| devin User Info... | fuck jason shuwrs or whatever his name is from monday mag for putting the adress of the show in the article he did, despite the fact that we told him to NOT put it in! Way to get the venue shut down you fucking idiot! - Sun, 22 Aug 2004 1:23pm | ||
| Greg User Info... | Or maybe it was the posters all over town the past two weeks that did it. Nah, that's crazy. - Sun, 22 Aug 2004 2:24pm | ||
| apocalypse drunk User Info... | Hmm, yes I see your point, but it wasn't a problem last time, there were people(parents) coming to the ware house, days before, complaing that the saw adds for some kind of "rave". The exact same thing happened to a show in vancouver where the venue was mentioned in Georgia Straight and the pigs saw it, and shut it down. Its competly disrespectfull of Jason to put it in because there was a request to not put it in. and he did any ways. so fuck him! - Sun, 22 Aug 2004 3:16pm | ||
| moron User Info... | Fscking cops. They don't show when dirty ravers are blasting trance at top volume at 4am on a Thursday morning as well as taking over an hour to show up for a call about a stabbing in the parking lot across from my house but then bust up a bother no one gig in the industrial part of town at 8:30PM. Where's their damn priorities? I think it's time for some focussed energy spent getting the police department to stick to violent crime and theft instead of waasting time hassling kids bothering no one. Lazy, over paid, under worked bastards the lot of them. Arrgh. - Sun, 22 Aug 2004 3:18pm | ||
| moron User Info... | No, fuck you. Jason is solid guy who obviously did you a favour by giving you a major plug in Monday. As mentioned, you had posters all over town. Be glad you didn't get fined for that. The real problem here is pigs deciding that kids playing music is more of a threat to society than the sleazy people up the road selling crack to hookers. - Sun, 22 Aug 2004 3:25pm | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | No worries Jeff. I came to see the fucking show. The possiblity of playing was just a bonus. See you all on the 4th. - Sun, 22 Aug 2004 3:38pm | ||
| chalywinged User Info... | Hey everyone --- I've already apologized to Wolf for listing the address after he requested I not list it. I made a mistake doing that since it brought even more attention to the show. If I had just listed http://www.livevictoria.com, however, the cops or neighbors still would have been able to find out the location just by going to this site or looking on the posters around town. So I'm not ready to take the blame for the show getting busted up. Thanks Ron for sticking up... I was only trying to help out by writing about this show. Cops need to find better things to do. Jason Schreurs - Sun, 22 Aug 2004 4:37pm | ||
| brad User Info... | ya..it was a real pisser that the cops showed up before we even had our gear all in and shut 'er down. I agree that posting the address after the request had been made not to really sucks...however could have been an error made quite easily, and i truly don't think we can just point fingers at jason (who i have never met or talked to) for being the sole cause of this gig getting shut down. i mean come on..the pigs are fucking idiots...but as if they haven't figured out livevictoria.com yet. this show could have easily had the same result if monday mag never ran the interview etc. I absolutely cannot believe that the fucking cops have nothing better to do than shut this show down at 8:30 on a saturday. I can't believe parents are so concerned with this show and their kids wanting to attend that they would call the cops/warehouse landlord etc etc and try to put a stop to it. perhaps they should sit their kids down and communicate with them instead of ruining everyones fun...if you dont want your kids to go...don't fucking let them...but don't freak out at everyone else about it. thanks again to the burnside boys (and girl)choir for letting the festivities take place over their instead...not a bad turn out considering half the people who wanted to see the show never knew of the location change. the idea of this show was to provide an venue for bands with political/positive messages to spread thier ideas and hopefully provoke thought and understanding...i think tolerance of other poeples political views is important for our small scene...even if someone posseses political views whick are slightly from a different side...we are all fighting the same war...lets not turn on each other.....U no HOO Yu R word to the motherfucker...straight outta compton. - Sun, 22 Aug 2004 7:40pm | ||
| chalywinged User Info... | Great thoughts Brad. The line about talking to your kids is so spot on... good one. Just to clarify, this wasn't an error on my part. Just an error in judgement as I made a conscious decision to print the address after Wolf asked me not to. I didn't think it was a big deal and I had no idea the cops/"concerned citizens" would peruse Monday for the address. Also, I figured if I just listed livevictoria.com they would find the address pretty easily anyway. Or see the posters around town. So I didn't see the harm in listing the address and I didn't want to make those who were interested in seeing the bands jump through any hoops to find the place. If I truly believed this would happen, I never would have listed the address. Once again, apologies for any part I played in this and to all who were affected by the show being moved. Jason Schreurs - Sun, 22 Aug 2004 8:05pm | ||
| The Other Nick User Info... | Apparently some parents came by earlier during the day to 576 Hillside to check out a "rave" that their 15yr old kids wanted to go to, and ended up asking the guy next door to the "warehouse" about it. Im guessing last time they had a show here, the guy with the courier business next door didnt know. He was the reason the show got stopped im pretty sure. If it weren't for him, how could have the cops had any reason to shut the thing down? It IS in an industrial area after all. - Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:20am | ||
| Emporeor Kuru User Info... | mr. Schreurs i understand that mistakes are made in life, but knowingly going against someones request to not put something in an article you are writing about them, a person who you sought out and asked for an interview with, is wrong. i'm not putting the blame on you for the pigs showing up, but i'm sure printing the address in a magazine with a run of 10,000 is a little different then the 100 flyers we put up. - Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:35am | ||
| J. Peatman User Info... | People, I think you should stop blaming the cops since they were doing what they were told and merely upholding the law, a task that, as I read in this topic, is of great value to you all. As it seemed it was the landlord and a co-renter (?) who got them there in the first place. However much I was looking forward to this show, seeing my old buddies in Iskra again, and was dissapointed by its cancellation at the Hillside location, I do realize that the landlord does have a right to tell what goes on in his property. Clearly this must have been in violation of the rental contract, as well as rules concerning fire hazards probably, and the landlord has the final word. I'm sure he does not get informed by Jesse about the show going on, for obvious reasons. Then it is up to him to bring in the police to enforce his conditions, right? I'm sure you wouldn't like it if you find out that your tenant is having an overcrowded hiphop-party (where people will get drunk for sure) in the business space you rent out, without being consulted beforehand. But hey, blaming the cops is always the most popular thing to do. - Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:41am | ||
| [email protected] User Info... | Hey dude Punk Rule #1 never take the side of the cops. love the hesher - Mon, 23 Aug 2004 2:22pm | ||
| canon.docre User Info... | For someone who is so well spoken, you seem to have made another mistake (besides the one pointed out by the hesh). That mistake is that you don't even know what happened and re trying to defend what the cops were doing. When are we going to wake up and start questing the unchecked authority police have over us. Let me tell you that the landlord was informed prior to the show going on that it was happening, and had no problem with it. When the cops threatened to call the landlord the promoter told them to because HE HAD PERMISSION. The landlord showed up and declared that he wanted the show to go on, so the cops started threatening to call the fire department which would have resulted in fines, or a bill from the fire department . The cops using money as leverage to shut down a DIY punk show? Awesome. Way to go. "Don't blame the cops, they're just doing their job." Fuck the pigs. - Mon, 23 Aug 2004 2:25pm | ||
| chalywinged User Info... | Kuru -- Thanks for your thoughts, but it's not as cut and dry as that. Wolf asked me not to print the address and I emailed him back saying essentially what I've said on these posts. I said I would consider not listing the address but since listing livevictoria (as he requested I do) would essentially be the same thing, I didn't see the point of leaving it out of the article and confusing readers by not having a location. It was my call to make whether to print the address or not since it was already public knowledge via livevic and the posters. In other words, it was not a secret location by any means. In the end I made the wrong call. If I thought there was such an immediate threat of people complaining and getting the show shut down, I would not have listed it. JS - Mon, 23 Aug 2004 8:11pm | ||
| The Other Nick User Info... | I know the landlord quite well, and he was indeed totally cool with the show. Shitty for him though, having to deal with the cops and the whiney neigbour when he'd already given the ok. By the way, why did the cops have such a fucking problem with people collecting money for the show? - Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:51am | ||
| paradoxjon User Info... | NEEDING HELP - Hi my name is Jonathan, I happened to be at this Hardcore show on pandora last thursday, the bands playing were Dragnet, RosesDead and some other. I met two guys and a girl and one of the guys had long hair and a skateboard and handed me the flyer for the show on Hillside..I was just in Victoria for a few days as I actually live in Italy...Anyway I can get in touch with the girl or the guy? thanks for any help, I don't remember their names........ - Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:10pm | ||
| OftenBongSoong User Info... | hi.. i was the bro who handed you the flyer.. my email is [email protected] cheers - Tue, 24 Aug 2004 5:22pm | ||
| paradoxjon User Info... | cool thanks...i wrote you! - Wed, 25 Aug 2004 3:19pm | ||
| canon.docre User Info... | "If I thought there was such an immediate threat .." Hey chalywinged: Its okay. We never expected the mainstream media to "think." That's why you were TOLD not to list .. First the underwear farm in vancouver got shut down because of exposure in the georgie straight, and now jesse's warehouse got shut down because of monday magazine. The mainstream media can fuck right off, our scene is better off without their fucking exposure. - Sat, 28 Aug 2004 5:11pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | hell yes, scott. hell fucking yes. - Sat, 28 Aug 2004 6:47pm | ||
| Sati User Info... | Forgive me if I me if I mess up here, since I've only skimmed this thread. IMO, the UWFarm should have been more careful with their booking. They were fine for a while, but then they started booking bands who are more media-hungry... bubble gum punks and emo type bands. Illegal venues have to be careful with that kind of thing, it only makes sense. Those bands (I don't mean the bands on the last show) also wanted the street cred of playing a cool, illegal venue. Just as mainstream media want to get in on the more elusive stuff and not left behind. Street stuff is getting a lot more sexy to them since we're getting better at being self-sufficient, i.e. doing perfectly well without powers that be. We do have to figure out how to get along, and respect each other's turf. I for instance am more & more worried about how much hush-hush stuff is ok to be posted on our sites here.. when will be the point when they come sniffing around, actually going out of their way to catch us all in the act. Would hate to have to learn the hard way and be responsible for shit like this happening. There's no way of testing the waters without someone getting burned in this game unfortunately. As it stands I don't believe cops are checking posters, or our sites, but they are obviously checking out the print weeklies. Let kids "jump through hoops" to find the shows.. a little effort never killed anyone, especially to find a DIY punk show - who really wants coddled little yuppie kids there anyway (maybe I don't know enough about Victoria though). Absolutely no offense to Jason Schreurs intended.. and thanks for thinking of these sites and posters as so "public" but I believe these are frequented/noticed by real music fans.. not really the general public, so we're under the radar. Cops are lazier than all that. - Sat, 28 Aug 2004 8:12pm | ||
| chalywinged User Info... | Canon/Nik/Sati -- To me, mainstream media are outlets that tell their reporters what to write and how to write it, and therefore know very little (or nothing) about the subject they are writing on, or present a very skewed version of it. I am a freelance writer for Monday. I pitch story ideas that I want to write about. Since I have been into punk/hardcore for almost 15 years, I tend to pitch those kinds of stories. I've booked shows at the Little Fernwood, been in DIY bands, and know their struggles with getting fair exposure, so I like writing about things that have a political message and aren't usually portrayed in a positive light in larger media outlets. Punk rock shouldn't be a closed club, and new people are vital to any legitimate scene. I've never been told what to write about or had my stories changed so they reflect a mainstream slant. So I'd hardly consider myself "mainstream media." In other words, I'm not the enemy. Cops with nothing better to do than bust up a show need to stop being so threatened by anything that challenges the status quo. Same goes with "concerned parents and neighbors." If the show goes past 11 p.m. or creates an unreasonable disturbance before that, sure, shut it down. But don't come and bust up a show at 8:30 p.m. just because the bands are political or playing in an "illegal venue." Rich kids have house parties all the time until 2, 3 in the morning, and the cops do jack shit about that. Like the kid that got stabbed in the park right down from my house a couple nights ago. It was hella loud for a couple of hours before the stabbing, with more kids than attend the average punk show just partying in an open field, so why didn't the cops break that up before someone got KILLED?! When was the last time you saw a fight at an all-ages punk show, never mind someone being stabbed to death? Anyway, sorry for ranting. Jason Schreurs - Sat, 28 Aug 2004 10:17pm | ||
| The One After Two User Info... | Jason is mainstream media??? - Sat, 28 Aug 2004 11:26pm | ||
| DOOMHAMMER User Info... | I say fuck you all. And as for monday mag, shitty writing wont make that big of a diffence in a mag that people read for red meat alone. - Thu, 9 Sep 2004 5:22pm | ||
| shitburg User Info... | "Red meat Alone?"......shit i only pick it up to browse through all the escort ads at the back...oh...and red meat. - Thu, 9 Sep 2004 10:16pm | ||
| Masturbating The War God User Info... | They don't put Red Meat in there anymore do they? - Thu, 9 Sep 2004 11:05pm | ||
| hunter User Info... | this is how ive gotten my meat fix for about a year now http://www.redmeat.com/redmeat/ - Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:15pm | ||
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