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Suicide Girls
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| hellbetty User Info... | Any word on how the show was? After waiting in line close to an hour with my ticket in my hand, I bailed. Never before have I seen that kind of sheeite getting in to a venue. Sugar, you stink. - Fri, 22 Sep 2006 1:56pm | ||
| monzza User Info... | I went.Money Shot did a good thing.I wish I was 8 feet taller because I was on the floor but could not see anything when the SG where on.After a bit of looking at the backs of peoples heads I went home.So thank you Money Shot for playing. - Fri, 22 Sep 2006 7:09pm | ||
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| Cheeky User Info... | It is a shame about the set up. I snuck in right beside the sound guy (which wasn't his fault about the sound, but more like the cd and equipment he was using) and saw gorgeous women dancing and strutting their stuff. Good thing I wore my 5 inch boots or else I'd be outta luck and outta pocket $20. I thought it was a good show. I was kinda surprised when they ended it but apparently the girls have had a shitty experience right from the start. Customs, sugar security (what the fuck happened there?) and the sound. But I'd gladly pay another $20 to see them any day. - Sat, 23 Sep 2006 9:51am | ||
| severed User Info... | When i was at the front i saw 3 or 4 fights. I saw a chick beat the shit out of some guy wailing him in the head atleast 6 times. and then i saw some guy fuckin throw a bottle of water or something at one the girls(nixon) coming down the stairs...she was pissed and ended up whippin the bottle at the guys head and the security grabbed him by the throat and threw him through the side door. the sound guy was fuckin stupid as fuck. and yes they did end it early cuz there was 3 girls coming down in gymnastics uniforms on and the promoter sent them back up and he looked pissed too - Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:26am | ||
| Matteus User Info... | what the hell happened at this show? why did things fall apart like they did? sounds like it was a complete shit show..... any one? answers? - Sun, 24 Sep 2006 2:08am | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | I haven't seen the Suicide Girls and there trying to recreate a burlesque atmosphere. Pity they have to play at dives like Sugar, they're way better then that place. It's too bad Lucky wasn't bigger (unless it changed when I stopped going). Why don't we have a venue as cool as Lucky, but as big as Sugar nightclub?!? It sucks to be broke! - Sun, 24 Sep 2006 6:12pm Edited: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 6:13pm | ||
| danica User Info... | There was no such burlesque atmosphere. The show was awful. The sound cut out something like six times, and one of the girls' way of dealing with it was to spit half a case of beer on the audience, who appeared to be enjoying it. Luckily, I was sitting elsewhere - where I had the pleasure of having three seperate drinks in their entirety poured on me by drunk goths . - Sun, 24 Sep 2006 10:47pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | That's sad. I mean I'm big on burlesque (it's nice to see T&A, but ya gotta have something interesting in between clothes and no clothes) and my understanding was that the Suicide Girls was a burlesque show. Sad to hear the show couldn't of been better. What was the show, one big tease?!? - Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:40am | ||
| Lucky Bar User Info... |  COMING UP: Chaz Royale's Infamous Burlesque Social Club - a new style show with Canada's longest-running burlesque troupe - Friday October 6. Capital City Cheesecake - Bettina (BettiLu Bombshells) new troupe is throwing a Halloween show in conjunction with Frontline Films - Tuesday October 24. Bloody Betty - will return soon enough... More info at http://www.luckybar.ca. - Mon, 25 Sep 2006 3:29pm Edited: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 3:31pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | More Big John Bates please!!! :) - Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:18am | ||
| Peter Gardner User Info... | Does no one else besides me detest Suicide Girls? - Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:48pm | ||
| NOISE NOT BOMBS User Info... | no, there are many others that detest suicide girls, there are entire groups of us... even a couple myspace pages about boycott suicide girls, websites dedicated to it... and a lot of former models...lol - Tue, 26 Sep 2006 3:23pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Why do people hate Suicide Girls?!? I betcha they were cooler before they were in that video with Lemmy from Motorhead. Personally, I just enjoy seeing a pretty face, she doesn't have to be always peeling off her clothes (but I've always thought like that). Is it just me, or did the Suicide Girls suddenly start showing some partial and full nudity instead of all partial and no nudity unless you became a member? What a shame, there's nothing creative there. But, too bad I don't know more women like that. - Tue, 26 Sep 2006 6:53pm Edited: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 7:03pm | ||
| Peter Gardner User Info... | Oh no, it's not so much THE girls I hate, it's the company. Their policies, terms, ect. I've done a lot of research on it, as some of my friends are interested in it and such. It's a pretty awful place. - Tue, 26 Sep 2006 7:07pm | ||
| NOISE NOT BOMBS User Info... | agreed. - Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:09pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Slave labour?!? A shame really. - Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:31pm | ||
| ScumFuckBondage User Info... | someone educate me on this topic? - Wed, 27 Sep 2006 2:49pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... |  Former Model Backlash ===================== In 2005, a number of the paid models were reported to have resigned from the site or had their memberships revoked in connection with allegations of censorship and mistreatment of the models by the site's owners. Numerous members have reported that their journals and message board posts were removed because they criticized management. A primary issue is the SuicideGirls modeling contract, which prevents its models (including past models, for a time) from working for competing sites or agencies (specifically those dealing in nude photography and/or erotica). In response to this, the SuicideGirls website states that only models "who have chosen to be involved in special projects" sign an exclusivity agreement in addition to their standard modeling contract barring them working with direct competitors for a certain amount of time. However, the standard modeling agreement for SuicideGirls includes a "Non-Competition" clause, barring any model that signs it from modeling for an "SG Competitor" during the one or more years in which the model is under contract with SuicideGirls, plus an additional two years. Many of the former models involved in the 2005 dispute are now involved with the competing sites GodsGirls and Deviant Nation. The owners of both of these sites have been sued by SuicideGirls LLC for hiring models who were allegedly still under contract with SuicideGirls and for allegedly violating SuicideGirls tradmarks. Several former models were also threatened with legal action. As of June 2006, none of SuicideGirls LLC's lawsuits or threatened actions against former models or competing sites has resulted in a victory for the plaintiff. Critics have also charged that SuicideGirls has dishonestly claimed to be a women-owned and women-operated business, when it is actually co-owned by Suhl. There has been no evidence, however, that the company has ever denied his involvement, and he has always been an active personality on the website. In response to the controversy, the website set up a page called "Trash Can," on which Missy addresses the various allegations and current models relay their positive experiences with the site. Image removal ============= Also in September 2005, SuicideGirls announced that it had removed a large number of images from its pages, in an attempt to avoid scrutiny in the U.S. Justice Department's so-called "war on porn." The images involved depicted bondage and sadomasochism and real or simulated blood or weapons. Communications from the Justice Department indicated that images of that type might be the subject of obscenity prosecutions, though SuicideGirls was not mentioned as a target. Because Suicide Girls was never mentioned as a target, some have accused the site of using the "war on porn" as an excuse to remove some images that they no longer wanted on their site while shifting the blame for the image removal to the Justice Department. --- I checked out both http://www.godsgirls.com or http://www.deviantnation.com websites, and since both require a payment to become a member, I somehow doubt I'll be a member of either website. Sorry, just not my thing these days, but it would be interesting to see them live (I won't be showing up, but I'm sure other people would like to see the entertainment). S4Life!!! - Wed, 27 Sep 2006 4:04pm Edited: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 4:22pm | ||
| jackass User Info... | I don't see what the big deal is...it's pretty common to sign a contract preventing you from working for competition for a certain period of time. - Wed, 27 Sep 2006 4:24pm | ||
| Brian VIHC User Info... | Wikipedia isn't an accurate source of factual information given that anyone can edit it. Also SG was in fact started as a tiny business by a woman out of Portland - what it's grown into can be the subject of debate or opinion, but that Godsgirls garbage really is a trashy fake alterna-porn site owned by Gavin Lloyd, a guy who owns numerous hardcore porn websites, and any former SG model who actually signs onto it needs their head examined given what that kind of ownership allows for. So I'm curious about you guys who say you "hate" the company - have you ever actually met and talked to someone who models for the site and what they think of it? Or are you basing your opinions entirely on what you've read on the internet? - Wed, 27 Sep 2006 7:23pm Edited: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 7:26pm | ||
| Peter Gardner User Info... | It's not only the fact you can't work elsewhere, it's the fact that the pictures of them they upload, they loose copyright over. This became a problem when SG started selling pictures to other porn sites. Thus, models showing up on much more hardcore based sites when they of course did not want this to happen. - Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:34pm | ||
| Brian VIHC User Info... | Losing copyright over images of yourself you've sold to someone or something else is standard (not uploading, let's be clear here - SELLING to SG). ADS for SG showing up on other sites doesn't count, that too is standard practise and more than likely is what is being referred to when you're referencing someone else's example of this supposedly happening. "Hardcore" sites wouldn't buy SG photos because A) they're not hardcore, and B) SG would lose exclusivity. If everyone held copyright over their own image in say, films, nothing could ever be done with them without prior consent of those who were filmed. Regardless, models should get an attorney to look over their contract and if they are uncomfortable with the wording they can ask to have it changed. I know this can be done because my girlfriend did it. - Thu, 28 Sep 2006 9:10am Edited: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 9:11am | ||
 Peter Gardner Peter Gardner Messages Posted: I like to take pictures. | http://www.punkrockgirlfriend.com - Thu, 28 Sep 2006 9:17am | ||
| Brian VIHC User Info... | I can't look at that site since I'm at work. Again, this is all in the contract that models sign, and if a model doesn't get an attorney to look over a contract she's signing it's no one's fault but her own. The contract can be altered, it's not difficult. You act as if this is some kind of unheralded unforeseeable breach of rights, which it clearly isn't in any legal sense. If they didn't ever want to end up on some other website maybe they should have read their contracts more carefully. - Thu, 28 Sep 2006 2:49pm Edited: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 2:51pm | ||
| NOISE NOT BOMBS User Info... | yeah I have talked to a few former SG models, and a few still going, as well as many girls that wish to model for them. Mostly over the internet though (former models that is)... I also have read a lot of what former models have had to say, there was also a site, now removed, which I can not remeber the name of... Anyways, it was started by former models, and talked about all these issues, including the selling of pictures to other websites without the consent or prior knowledge of the models. And sure it might be legal, but, for a compny that claimed to be an ethical alternative, it seams rather out of charactor, and has pissed off many models. Still there is also the mistreatment claims, as well as claims that some models signed contracts for $300 a set, and did not recieve that much payment. regardless, in the end SG is nothing more than just anouther porn site, only with a different target audience... us. - Thu, 28 Sep 2006 3:12pm | ||
| ScumFuckBondage User Info... | Okay I read all that. and when I think of it... I have nothing against the company, when you think of it. Almost every company is like that. There just trying to get a monopoly on what they do. And thats the point of a buisness...is to achive that.. and well make money. And obviously there is gonna be some people pissed about it. Its a huge website and company, so there bound to be some people preaching on how bad it is etc. I say, its a website that was made to make money. So fucking what, just like any other. Another point is... I don't really care. I HOPE YOU ALL ENJOYED THE SHOW! ...acually i don't care. cheers! - Thu, 28 Sep 2006 9:31pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | So, your telling us that you don't care?!? - Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:27pm | ||
| Brian VIHC User Info... | Alright we can argue until we're all blue in the face about the ethics of SG's business practices and clearly it won't go anywhere. But I would contend the mistreatment claims since I've never seen anything factual and verfiable to back that up, other than "I heard from a guy who knows this girl who saw so-and-so one time". I think the difference between SG and any regular mainstream porn site (like that punkrockgirlfriend thing I did get to look at - not "hardcore porn" by the way, just trashy mainstream softcore) is that the models keep journals and portray themselves however they want. Some of them are openly gay or others talk about their boyfriends, husbands or kids. I doubt too many other porn sites would allow that. Anyways, I've said my bit. I've got to get back to the world of zombies. - Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:20am | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Why do all the websites in this group of softcore websites look similar?!? Can't anyone do something original for a change?!? Outta curiosity, I wonder if any of the models originally came from/live on the island?!? No, it's not cause I'm a Dirty Old Man, I just enjoy hearing success stories, that's all. - Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:25pm Edited: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:26pm | ||
| Peter Gardner User Info... | If you're up for a long read, with lots of different people http://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=59002 (Model Mayhem is a website based for Photographers, Models, and others trying to break in the industry) It's rather interesting, and has quite a few people who have worked with SG who talk about it. And thats all I'll say now :) - Fri, 29 Sep 2006 3:50pm | ||
| Gman User Info... | Brian VIHC: "Wikipedia isn't an accurate source of factual information given that anyone can edit it." You're mistaken actually. Here is one study examining the accuracy of Wikipedia .VS. traditional sources: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4530930.stm Of course, if you're the type of person to believe everything you read from a single source, you're a bit naive anyway. - Sat, 30 Sep 2006 5:25pm | ||
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