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MySpace to take a byte out of Apple, Sell Music Online
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| _Griphin_ User Info... | http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1540151/20060905/index.jhtml?headlines=true Bands will be able to set their own prices when store opens in fall. The computer company, which has been the digital-music king for more than five years thanks to its iPods and market-leading iTunes store, will face what could be its biggest competition yet later this year when MySpace launches its own download service. But I wanted to point out something in the article: The potential problem, experts say, is that major labels won't sell songs in the unprotected MP3 format, and without those big-name artists, the MySpace store could have limited appeal. -=- Now this is untrue, I like the idea of INDependant bands selling tracks at INDependant prices, methinks that the underdog will do better, something the major labels hate to admit (and why the experts don't think it will do as well as iTunes, but just wait to see what happens, remember MP3.com?!?). - Tue, 5 Sep 2006 2:48pm Edited: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 2:55pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | What about MP3.com? I hope you're not using it as an example of a success. It is a good example of a site which had some potential initially and then converted to a worthless piece of shit. As far as MySpace goes, it was recently bought by News Corp of all people (Rupert Murdoch, Fox network). Myspace cost him $580M if you can believe that! Its possible Fox will do something interesting with it, but chances are they will fuck it up royal and someone will build a new MySpace-thing from scratch, and on it goes. All small distributors eventually become big ones. Look at Sub-Pop. Other on-line schemes are thinking of making the downloads free, but once every 30 days you have to go back to the site and watch certain advertisments or the music will stop playing. Large record companies will NEVER sell or give away music that isn't DRMed or copy protected in such a way that you can't do what you want with it. Those days are over. iTunes is a perfect example. My wife just about lost ALL her legit purchased music on the weekend because of a DRM glitch. She got it back, but also had to use 1 of 5 possible attempts at that process. She's had her iPod for only about 60 days. Its totally possible if that happens a few more times her legit music has only lasted a year or two. We'll see, but DRM on music files is going to ruin the legit big-label distro. And, to be sure, good-fucking-riddance! Sometimes I think the only real and legitimate distribution method that doesn't screw the consumer is direct and one-to-one. From the bands actual website (Hopefully NOT using some corrupt 3rd party), or direct from the merch table. I will let you all know when the People's War (And various other projects) online distribution becomes available. SoulSeek (http://www.slsknet.org/), Bittorrent and http://www.archive.org will likely be the first methods. - Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:05am | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | I dunno, I mean they could be really popular at first then die down to a trickle. MySpace needs a reason for people to buy music though. MP3 was sort of a success, in the fact that it gave INDependant bands somewhere to put there music and people were able to download it/listen to it, albeit at 128 kbps 44.1 kHz per track. I'm wondering if anyone plans to offer local music for people to download. I've looked into putting all the local albums I have in a Torrent setup, cept Shaw wouldn't let me do that (it runs against there User Policy), plus I would need to get permission from the bands. I was thiking about doing a show similar to Capital Rock City, cept I don't know where to put it so non-iP0d people can grab it and listen to it (just the music, I wouldn't talk on the show). - Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:51am Edited: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:54am | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | Well, ya mp3.com was great for people like us, but they sure went wrong fast. Myspace will still get used I'm sure, but whether it becomes the next iTunes is unlikely. Griph. Run as much Torrent as you want on Shaw. Whatever you do, don't read the Usage Policy, nor phone them for any reason. According to the usage policy we can *barely* surf the web, or send email that has the word FUCK in it. They're going to reserve the right to cut you off for various behaviour anyway, so I suggest you do what you want with your service. And yes, obtain ALL permissions from bands. - Thu, 7 Sep 2006 1:16pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Well, Shaw doesn't care about people leeching, but they do care about people uploading. If I wanted to, I'd go DSL cause Tel don't care (Cable modem works on a certain amount of bandwidth for an IP block, so if someone is uploading it slows the IP bank down, whereas DSL is an even bandwidth (eg. everyone gets the same speed, I guess)). Also, if I really got freaked out I can shell Shaw more coin and get a business feed, in which case Shaw don't care. And as far as getting permission, it's hard getting permission from bands that aren't around anymore, and if you can still buy it, I wouldn't put it on the Torrent, cause the bands deserve to be paid for their hard work. Yes, sometimes I slag the bands, but every artist knows I still respect them as a musician. And yes, there's a HUGE CHUNK of demos I'm still looking for. (eg. the extra tracks Shovlhed randomly put on the Proud as a Moose tapes, and a ton of Red Tide I so badly want :) In any case, it's better then letting the tracks gathering CyberDust on my hard drive, it's easier to get the music out to people as well, and it's free!!! I was eventually gonna do something with it (no, not making money), they don't call it archives for nothing. - Thu, 7 Sep 2006 1:53pm Edited: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 9:52pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | Shaw does care about traffic in general, and their *potential* liability to the whole copyright business, so does Telus and their ilk. The 'Business' service is just a way to get more monthly dollars, I used to be on it and back-reved, not enough benefit. I guess what I'm getting at is, the legalese thats in their usage policy is begging to be ignored. This is not good legal advise on my part, but it is good practical advise. Feign ignorance and bittorent in both directions all you want. (Bittorrent really only works well in both directions anyway the more you give the faster you receive) Focus on one or two bands which will encourage your efforts, do a fantastic job of it, and work with that. You don't have to seek approval all at once. The good work on ONE good compilation may lead to other stuff... Thats the way it works. - Sat, 9 Sep 2006 3:00pm Edited: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 3:05pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Yes I know, but how do you do it so that all parties are happy?!? - Sat, 9 Sep 2006 9:05pm | ||
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