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Whassup with straightedgers?
| Message Board > Controversy and Quarantine > Whassup with straightedgers? |
| Nik Olaz User Info... | whassup with that stuff? why not drink and do blow off a hookers tits? all the best bands aren't straightedge, they all did shitoads of drugs. you know like Led Zepplin, Black Sabbath, The Doors and they wrote some of the best shit ever. i mean even if you don't do crank at least pick up a few beers or something. plus i heard that straightedge started in nazi germany. - Wed, 19 Nov 2003 7:32pm | ||
| Broccoli User Info... | started when kids were aloud into bars to see punk gigs: they'd stick jiffy Xs on there wrists to remind the bartender not to serve them alcohol. When I was too young and didn't have a fake ID I wished they'd still do it that way, but now that I'm older I'm glad they keep those snot nosed brats outa the club: too young to fuk OR punch out. - Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:31pm | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | Whatever man. Who cares if I dont do drugs or drink. As if a beer is going to make me more creative. I'm past my whole "fuck addicts" and "stoners should be killed" frame of mind. Now I dont give a flying fuck if anyone wants to drink or smoke so why should anyone else care if I don't. I can easily swear off drugs, alcohol, and cigarettes, but not the women part. So I guess that makes me not fully straight edge. Fuck it, who really cares? - Thu, 20 Nov 2003 4:54pm | ||
| Brandon User Info... | straight edgers dont have sex? woah thats fucked up - Sat, 22 Nov 2003 1:43pm | ||
| Akylore User Info... | "Controversy and Quarantine" Sweet a bitchy-slag-fest message board!!! *smiles with delight* Oh yeah, I've always wanted to bitch about straight-edgers...wait a minute, I guess I am one in lifestyle (minus the sex...) but I definitely don't have a revolution to uphold. But like Shawn said, even though I don't indulge anymore, I don't really care what people do. But singing in a metal band you kinda have to learn to accept the chaos.... Maybe it's just the whole tucking the arm behind the back with a 35-degree tilted baseball cap on doing the wigger-shuffle and boasting about the 'strength of my convictions' with re-hashed boring hardcore riffs, that might have something to do with why I'm not a 'straight-edger'...not my style... - Sat, 22 Nov 2003 3:31pm | ||
| Matt User Info... | straight edgers can have sex and nik: the bands that did that shit...the 'best songs ever' could very well be shitty versions of what the song COULD HAVE BEEN if they werent fucked up on coke then again, maybe not doing drugs and shit doesn't make people more creative...most shit people write while fucked up goes down the shitter the next day - Sat, 22 Nov 2003 3:35pm | ||
| [+} User Info... | no dairy, no animals, no sex, no drugs and no alcohol. it's all pretty messed up if you asked me. i can understand not doing things that are harmful to your body, but it's cult-like and overtly... demonstrative. yes. - Sat, 22 Nov 2003 5:58pm | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | I dont "get high" because I hate being fucked up, hate it. No point really. I dont claim to be straight edge because, like how others have pointed out, of the whole image that goes hand-in-hand. I dont drink caffeine either, and that has nothing to do with straight edge. I sound more of a mormon than anything else. Except I can sure swear off Jesus. HA HA HA. I am a fucking idiot who is ridiculously tired. - Sat, 22 Nov 2003 7:30pm | ||
| Colin Sick User Info... | Its not no sex, its monogamus sex (I probably spelled it wrong ahhah0 - Sun, 23 Nov 2003 5:23am | ||
| *GKdc User Info... | Its good to see straight edge making a comeback in Victoria. Glad its on your threat list. Now lets talk about why people that drink seem to care whether or not *I* do. - Sun, 23 Nov 2003 6:50am | ||
| Chryst_al_Mighty User Info... | I think Mr. H Rollins put it best in the opening of Tools song Bottom... I love the rolling r's on the "rrrrrrrrreally fucking high" See im thinking straight-edge is just another word for too cheep to afford thier own high... Actually Im just jealouse Id be straight edge if it wasnt for that nasty jizz gobbilin habbit of mine, that and the class A's - see i was too dumb to get A's in school but now thanks to drugs Im sooo smart S-M-R-T ;P - Sun, 23 Nov 2003 7:04am | ||
| SentencedtoBurn User Info... | Every song we've ever created was conceived whilst navigating through mountains of funny-smelling smoke. However, using the "I need it to be creative" mindset is just stupid. I think pot allows for favourable jamming results, but we never smoke before playing live. There are examples in the metal genre of both success and failure, with regards to heavy pot consumption. Look at Cepahlic Carnage, their music is insanely hyper-complex, and they fucking rule. Six Feet Under smoke all the time too, but they just suck piles of shit. To each their own, I guess. - Sun, 23 Nov 2003 8:16am | ||
| Nathan User Info... | this thread is stupid. Who cares if someone doesn't want to drink or smoke or whatever. Its a healthier lifestyle if you ask me. Personally i don't wanna turn into ozzy (minus being one of the most influential rockstars ever). You'd be retarded and have nothing for yourself, besides an addiction... and you can't get a job. washed up rocker? Its just not for me. - Sun, 23 Nov 2003 2:21pm | ||
| [+} User Info... | it's no sex. final. it's bad for your body? - Sun, 23 Nov 2003 4:31pm | ||
| D�ds anger User Info... | Just how straight edge are you straight edgers??? Do you ever drink or toke at ALL??? Have you ever done either without puking etc? Personally I drink and smoke weed, and theres definately meny times my night would have sucked if not for the drink or a few tokes. Halloween or newyears, alcohol fuels the idiocy of the parties... hence all the fun, so I would assume you straight edgers are just bias due to getting sick from booze or tired from pot etc. as all of us who are all for it tend to suffer no side effects minus the occasional hangover or burnout... and I have to also wonder, would you have the same views if you too were desensitized to pot and alcohol?.. Or are you actually against it? I personally can't fathom having fun at a straight edge party... - Sun, 23 Nov 2003 4:59pm | ||
| Brett User Info... | yeah, I totally argee with you. I drink and smoke pot a few times a week. And besides the occasional hangover I'm fine. I also go to university and play in two bands and I don't seem to have trouble keeping up. You just gotta make sure you don't let that shit take over your life. You only live once, have a bit of fun. - Sun, 23 Nov 2003 5:44pm | ||
| KnifeGhost User Info... | I fit the lifestyle requirements for a straight-edger, but I don't call myself straight-edge....... I have never drank, smoked, smoked weed, or anything else........ I will never....... You're welcome to, though...... Now, there's a certain amount of controversy within the "movement".... One is on the sex thing.... Some say none before marriage, some say it's gotta be monogamous, some say fucking go for it...... Same with veganism/vegetarianism..... Some say you're not edge unless you're totally vegan (including honey and yeast), others live on red meat.... The controversy comes up mostly when people are into it to prove that they're more whatever than other folks...... It's usually people who're insecure about their lifestyle choice that get into the "I'm sXe, you're not" shit....... They're also the ones most likely to crack and become alcoholics/serious users.... They have no model (or even concept) of moderate use...... - Sun, 23 Nov 2003 7:27pm | ||
| KnifeGhost User Info... | Oh, and that was Bill Hicks on Third Eye...... - Sun, 23 Nov 2003 7:33pm | ||
| Lurker User Info... | Straight-Edge of course got its name from the Minor Threat song, and it's most likely as a result of this that the most commonly defined aspects of straight-edge coincide with the Minor Threat definition of it. The most widely agreed upon form of straight-edge consists of (1) No drugs or smokes, (2) no alcohol, and (3) no promiscuous sex. Caffeine is debatable... you can consume it and still be straight-edge but some of the sXe nazis will say that you can't, it just depends on the person. The Minor Threat guys drank coca-cola all the fucking time, and that obviously has caffeine in it. Dairy is not a part of straight-edge and never has been. That's a vegan/vegetarian thing. A person does not have to be a vegan/vegetarian to be straight-edge. It's a similar lifestyle and there are obvious similarities, but the two are not one and the same, and being vegan/vegetarian is definitely not required to be sXe. The definition of promiscuous sex also varies from person to person, but it is agreed upon that to be sXe a person must not whore themselves out, and that sex should mean something more than just physical. Though some people will include different things in their sXe-ness, the main three listed above are a must for a person to be straight-edge. If a self-proclaimed sXe person smokes or drinks or fucks around alot, they are calling themselves something that they are not. I'm straight-edge and always have been. I hang out with alcoholics, and I've never met another sXe person that carries the same obsession for GG Allin that I do. - Sun, 23 Nov 2003 7:52pm | ||
| eboner User Info... | ooh dont get me started on straight edgers...fuck. - Sun, 23 Nov 2003 8:54pm | ||
| Trailer Park Boy Julian User Info... | CBC radio, a couple of years ago, had a little feature on the "Straight Edge" movement. It was pretty cool. They interviewed "actual" straight edgers (one's who fit Frazer Johnson's excellent definition) and played "Straight Edge".... Well about half of it - it was around 10 AM on a Tuesday morning, and this is the CBC we're talking about... god bless 'em.... - Sun, 23 Nov 2003 9:14pm | ||
| josh User Info... | yeah, what exactly do straighedgers do at their parties, do they have parties? - Mon, 24 Nov 2003 4:54am | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | I think it is absurd that people think they cant have a good time without pot or alcohol. I'm always the sober one at any party, but fuck it I'm not complaining and I still enjoy myself. But I'll be damned if I'm gonna hold anyones head while they vomit. - Mon, 24 Nov 2003 6:13am | ||
| eboner User Info... | i have no problem with people being proud about not drinking and or doing drugs..but its fucking annoying whern kids rub it in our faces as a 'movement' and write song lyrics like 'and forever ill be, straight edge for life!' haha liek come on people..its lame and you know it. - Mon, 24 Nov 2003 1:08pm | ||
| D�ds anger User Info... | "Hey Dad's Anger, whats up with that silly photo in your profile?" Wuahahaha Theres a Freudian slip if I've ever seen one. - Mon, 24 Nov 2003 2:45pm | ||
| fizzangu User Info... | i know a guy with a straight edge tattoo, i call him a straight edge hottie. he drinks beer too :D - Mon, 24 Nov 2003 5:02pm | ||
| Lurker User Info... | eboner: come on now bands that have straight-edge lyrics are no worse than bands that sing about drinking, as long as it's not a preachy fucking "I'm better than you" kind of bullshit song then it's all good. sXe parties? no such thing. that's why i hang out with fuckin drunk cunts. - Mon, 24 Nov 2003 7:26pm | ||
| Brian VIHC User Info... | Militant straightedge died in the late 90's. Unless you count Embrace Today, but they're the last fading embers of a crazed fringe that consisted of lunatics like One Life Crew. I think you guys have a weird idea of what "straightedgers" are like, since the stereotype of what its adherents are about seems to come from that ludicrous America's Most Wanted episode of a few years back (sampled on the Burden song "Burn It Clean", which is a good song about exactly these kind of misunderstandings). And besides, my idea of fun tends to be about jumping around, dancing, and celebrating being alive, it's different for eveybody, and no I don't care about people getting wasted (unless it's at a show I'm putting on and the staff of the venue become extremely pissed at ME because of the drunk kids). And for the record I probably have more and better sex than most of you. Ha! - Mon, 24 Nov 2003 8:49pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | ok ok so i've now been fully edjucated in the "Straight-edge" stuff. that's all i wanted to know - Mon, 24 Nov 2003 9:26pm | ||
| Josh User Info... | How exactly do vegans/sxe pull off eating no yeast? There's yeast naturally occuring in almost every fruit and in most vegetables. It's why stuff ferments. Speaking of which, alcohol will start forming in fruit via fermentation (with the yeast)within hours of it being picked. Can you still eat it? What about the pollen that fertilized the blossoms of the fruit? Can the fruit be grown indoors in greenhouses with kept bees? What about algae in water? What about the 8 microscopic spiders you inadvertently swallow in your sleep every night? ....silly, arbitrary moral hoops to jump through. Sounds alot like christianity..... - Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:13pm | ||
| Lurker User Info... | Josh: there's no moral hoops there. Maybe vegans can't eat shit like the fruit, but that's vegan, not sXe. Eating a piece of fruit if obviously not the same as shotgunning a beer. Get this, sXe will even use.... MEDICATION!!! if they are in pain or if they need it because of sickness. Not all do, but probably more will use it than not. - Tue, 25 Nov 2003 3:45am | ||
| *GKdc User Info... | I'm willing to bet that no one has actually met a vegan that eats no yeast. I'm vegan. I eat yeast. Unlike christianity, there is no "higher power" that will punish me for doing things that may or may not be "wrong". I do what I want, I eat what I want. Of course, like being gay, or being a metalhead, there are certain standards that must be maintained. So I don't use or consume animal products. That makes me a vegan. And I don't personally lump insects and arachnids in with "animal". Now, back to straight-edge... - Tue, 25 Nov 2003 4:50am | ||
| Lurker User Info... | Fuck straight-edge. - Tue, 25 Nov 2003 7:29am | ||
| Brian VIHC User Info... | Frazer, the medication argument is very old and tired. Straightedgers, the sane ones anyways, object to the use of mind-altering or behaviour altering drugs, not things that need to be taken like insulin shots or pain relievers. - Tue, 25 Nov 2003 7:45am | ||
| Lurker User Info... | Um... I wasn't arguing for or against. The idea of this thread seemed to be to inform, not to debate. I take medication. It is true that some sXers will not though. - Tue, 25 Nov 2003 9:10am | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | ok you guys i get the point. straight-edge is fun for some people. - Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:51am | ||
| ass hole User Info... | id like to take a handfull of those pussies and shove them up my ass. - Tue, 25 Nov 2003 1:07pm | ||
| eboner User Info... | Frazer Johnson: i agree..but its lame when my freind asks me how my weekend went and i say oh man i cant remember i was so trashed..and he gets all preachy on my ass. its fucking annoying..i dont brag about my drinking and i dont try and make him feel bad for not drinking. lame! - Tue, 25 Nov 2003 1:09pm | ||
| el fuckface-o User Info... | straightedgers are deceptive because eventhough they are called straightedgers they are as gay as it gets. they should be called queeredgers. - Tue, 25 Nov 2003 2:49pm | ||
| HardcoreKid User Info... | Were not gay we just wear tight jeans so you can see what you lack. I'm not preachy and lots of my friends drink. They do there thing and I do mine. It seems normal to me but everyone else has their own ideas about what straightedge means. oh well. - Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:59pm | ||
| Scroto Faggins User Info... | Do straightedgers watch cable? Now thats a mind altering drug. - Fri, 28 Nov 2003 3:06pm | ||
| METALNECK User Info... | One time at band camp.... - Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:35pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | does it really matter? everyone does whatever the hell they want to and that's it. there's way more important shit to think about really. and wassup wit peeps who say wassup anyway holmes? - Sat, 29 Nov 2003 5:56am | ||
| ted zeppelin User Info... | does any oldschoolers remember STRAIGHT EDGE DAVE? that was his nickname, and he drank 3 or 4 nights a week, i think he toked, tried to get laid, etc he was really nice, but not very straight edge he had a" MOTHER " tattoo but it said " MOTHRA" Nerd - Sun, 30 Nov 2003 4:11pm | ||
| Dr.V User Info... | I have the occasional beer, like to toke and i`m a vegetarian, am i a bent edge ? Or slightly curved? - Mon, 1 Dec 2003 2:09am | ||
| eboner User Info... | i lost a freind over this stupid post..apparently i canthave my own public opinions..dont read it if you cant handle it. it was a valued friend too..fuck. - Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:51pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | you had a valued friend? behind my back? fuck you then we're through this time. permanent.... - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 5:52am | ||
| eboner User Info... | im so crushed....ha. funny ross bay..funny. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:15am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | don't talk to me. we're finished. - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:23am | ||
| eboner User Info... | but i thought it would last forever - Sat, 13 Dec 2003 2:15pm | ||
| el fuckface-o User Info... | eboner was telling me that his stupid straightedger friend is a hypocrite because the straightedger likes to do cyrstal meth while mainlining beer and having sex with 77 year old hookers. straightedger is the synonym for hypocrite. argue all you want but if you are a straightedger you are wrong. booze drugs and sex are staples of life for all. anyone denying this is a fake. in fact i just came back from seeing an ex-friend of mine who is one of those losers and he does all the drugs, drinking and screwing of an ex-member of belt (well, maybe more screwing than an ex-member of belt). they all preach, then do the opposite. might as well be catholics. - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 3:38pm | ||
| eboner User Info... | i told you that?...um? ok first of all im not a guy get that straight..seriously people. second..what the hell are you talking about?? - Sun, 14 Dec 2003 8:31pm | ||
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