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On Voting and Why Not To.
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| DAJ User Info... | On Voting and Why Not To. - Hi, I think a political party would be the best option to give these possibilities a forum. It is extremely rare, basically unheard of, for activism to lead anywhere. The legal action has been covered by Mr Johnston and the ruling is supposedly held in reserve so that's not helpful at this time. Activism only works when it dovetails with a general turning of opinion in the population. If there is enough interest to generate a political Party please let me know. Regards, Aaron --------- Hi Aaron; Thanks for the input. The discussion tended less in a political direction and more in a direction where people were sharing their spiritual approaches to the question of where and how to live. I personally can't support the idea of a political party because any political party would operate within the electoral system of Canada, and hence would tacitly acknowledge Canada as a political entity with legitimacy, which it is not. "Canada" is a fiction forced on the people by the Crown in order to enslave us to a politico-economic system which is as corrupt as any national entity one could think of (the word "Nazi regime" springs to mind, only it is not polite to say so, not in Canada.) So, no to the political party idea on this end. And I would recommend dropping this instant any remaining delusions about voting or otherwise participating in the electoral process--to so participate actually means nothing other than conspiring in the illusion that we live in a free society. We don't, so what next? There are many ways to effect "a general turning of opinion in the population," all of which come from and return to the deep, total, fearless, love of life, and the willingness to be so in love with life that one would die for it. (And, too, so in love with life that one would live, and live fully, for it.) Perhaps I'll share some of my thoughts on these other ways with you soon. Never doubt the capacity of a single gesture to change the world. Is that "activism"? Is it "activism" when just the right word sets off an explosion in the collective Mind that breaks the deathspell once and for all. It is not childish fantasy to remember that miracles are constantly happening; it is worth remembering, too, the immortal words of that great saint and mystic Franz Kafka--- 1)" The belief in progress does not entail the belief that any progress has yet been made. That is not the sort of belief that indicates real faith." Lest we let Evil make us believe we can have favours from it... (And, too, lest we let Evil delude us into thinking that it is anything other than a dance partner sent by god to teach us some really cool moves. There is, of course, only love.) Love, Kristen. -------- And an addendum to my former reply. K. (To Aaron): That said, life is always reminding me that there is no place that is not god, so if the spirit really does inspire you to want to generate a political party, go for it. I won't vote for you, not because I don't like you, but because, barring being compelled to do so by the Hand of God, I won't ever vote. In the end, who am I to say what does or does not constitute right action. All I can say is how I see it at this time. Still, I will say that we can be so obsessed with the "non-judgment thing", so obsessed with remembering that all is love that we stop ourselves from calling shit shit. So---if you are destined to be the next president or trustee and destined to save the world in that way, far be it for me to stop you. I do think our energies are better directed otherwise. K. P.S. It is funny that you use the word "activism" to allude to my activities. My old self would shit in her grave if she heard that I was involved in anything by that name, or with anyone who was associated with that term. I tend to see my activities as yoga--i.e. life force directed at union. Only I recognize that my body is not separate from the body of the whole, so that those "postures" I do to work on blockages in the body's energy systems sometimes take a public form--because my heart, liver, spleen, mind, brain, energy IS the heart, mind, brain energy of the whole and I can't NOT recognize this. - Tue, 2 Sep 2008 9:17am | ||
| Jl User Info... | there's only one blockage i've had since reading this post... political party... that's a solid investment. - Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:23am | ||
| Chopper User Info... | Oh great... Now we get cut/paste of other people's BS. What's the matter DAJ, run out of nonsensical BS to post? - Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:06pm | ||
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| Nicholas Antoni Marek Gibas User Info... | I'm not voting but this reasoning was a bit ehhhh not quite kosher. - Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:55pm | ||
| stew User Info... | DAJ Your continued references to "God" and "faith" make me wonder if you ascribe to any particular denomination - or if these are references to some other metaphysical entity. I am curious about what you exactly mean by these metaphysical claims. - Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:19am | ||
| BBJones User Info... | What happened when the hamster said to the light switch "why does the plywood in the banana need seven children?" - Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:44am | ||
| kyle User Info... | to encourage everyone not to vote is one of the most socially and morally irresponsible things i have ever heard of from this guy, and that's saying a lot. especially when comparing our relatively liberal government to a regime such as the Nazis. let's put it this way, DAJ, let's say there's an election tomorrow, between any currently existing political party in the country, and the Nazis. no one votes. EXCEPT maybe the guy running for the leadership of the Nazi party. wow, the Nazi's win, now they run the country. guess who's tops on the list of people they "cleanse" from society? YOU you self righteous fuckbag. it's not that it's not POLITE to compare our government to any extreme totalitarian regime, it's that it is completely fucking absurd. it might be wonderful to get such self satisfaction from your sermons on the cyber-mount, but fuck dude, GET OVER YOURSELF. you want to talk about real tyranny and oppression? i'm sure enough people on here are sick enough of you and your bullshit we could all chip in a little for a one way plane ticket to North Korea. i'd love to see how they'd react to your unending words of wisdom. in short, i hope you die. soon. - Wed, 3 Sep 2008 8:00pm | ||
| Chopper User Info... | I'd chip in to send him elsewhere. N Korea, Iraq, Burma, hell even Singapore. I'd pay a lot of money to see good old DAJ caned everyday of his natural life. - Wed, 3 Sep 2008 8:50pm | ||
| tom User Info... | I think Detroit would suffice. I'd chip in on a Greyhound ticket to send him to lovely Michigan, Chopper. A cool 197.00 USD to send him on his way. - Thu, 4 Sep 2008 2:03pm | ||
| Kyle User Info... | The initial post is definitely "on point". As self-identified Canadians, we are all tacitly endorsing the Nazi Regime. While on the one hand this may have gone without saying, it is hard to deny the essential beauty of such crystal-clear reasoning. Well played. - Fri, 5 Sep 2008 7:51am | ||
| grimlord User Info... | crystal-clear reasoning lol - Thu, 11 Sep 2008 3:20pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Over 90% of Canada's senior citizens vote. Sadly, less than 25% of Canadians in the 18-24 demographic vote. Take a wild guess at who the politicians are targeting and attempting to sway? The young people who can't afford housing or post secondary education? No they want the votes of the wealthy old people who only care about medicare and paying less taxes. Don't be stupid. Exercise your right to vote. - Fri, 19 Sep 2008 1:11am | ||
| Nicholas Antoni Marek Gibas User Info... | Not to be one of those guys who just posts a youtube video but... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efKguI0NFek He has two points that can be completely parallel to Canadian politics. - Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:32am | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | I vote NDP cause Jack Layton has the sleaziest mustache of the bunch. - Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:55pm | ||
| DAJ User Info... | Regarding Election Fever - Firstly, these are not free elections- naming any price steps away from inclusivity. Secondly, an honest political platform would have to include an acceptance of the failure of capitalism and move to face survival without having to resort to internment and death camps (which is exactly what has to happen if a financial economy is to extend its mortality). A massive municipal, provincial and federal use of resources to help the biggest volunteer campaign in its free offering of ability in converting lawns into gardens. and of course, tent-city and everything that follows it. short of that... accepting that the government has a sacred duty to quietly act psychotically in the name of playstations and ski vacations...all food coming from factories or luxury farms... all of nature profiteered... wouldn't even be able to enjoy eternal slavery as we would kill everything. - Thu, 9 Oct 2008 9:27am | ||
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| J. Peatman User Info... | DAJ, I'm surprised how persistently you keep mentioning these death camps. Seeing as death camps seem to be a common feature of mostly outspoken anti-capitalist regimes. And at least death camps have proper latrines. You still haven't told us what your ideal tent cities are going to provide. - Thu, 9 Oct 2008 12:48pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | True freedom can only be experienced while peeing in the shower, young grass smoker. - Thu, 6 Nov 2008 6:46pm | ||
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