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Horror Bus on the high prairie!
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| Mike User Info... | http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=7886faf4-e8e9-4217-ac1d-66563d16ec9f BRANDON, Man. - Thirty-six passengers on a Greyhound bus watched in horror Wednesday night as a fellow passenger stabbed a man sleeping next to him, decapitated him and began waving around the man's severed head. The bus made an emergency stop, and passengers fled in terror onto the darkening Trans-Canada Highway near Portage la Prairie, Man., while the bus's driver and a driver of a nearby truck shut the crazed man inside the bus with the victim. Passengers on the Winnipeg to Edmonton bus say they stood outside and watched through the window, horrified, as the man disfigured the victim's body. RCMP have confirmed they are investigating a homicide, although investigators won't provide further details about how a young man was stabbed to death and then decapitated. A female passenger from the Greyhound bus on which a man was beheaded by another passenger late Wednesday evening waits at the RCMP station in Brandon, Man. A suspect was taken into custody by the RCMP and arrested without incident, said Sgt. Brian Edmonds in a statement Thursday. He said the RCMP's serious crimes unit is investigating a homicide. The names of the victim and the suspect have not been released. "He didn't do anything to provoke the guy. The guy just took a knife out and stabbed him, started stabbing him like crazy and cut his head off," said Garnet Caton, 36, a passenger. "Some people were puking, some people were crying, other people were in shock . . . everybody was running, screaming off the bus." Greyhound spokesman Eric Wesley, speaking from Texas, said drivers are trained to get help as soon as they can when incidents occur. "This is very rare, unique occurrence. Bus transportation is one of the safest modes of transportation. This is highly unique that something like this happened," he said. "Our drivers are trained to provide the safest travel for all our passengers, and every time an incident occurs they know to pull the bus over and call 911." Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day, speaking in Quebec City, said the issue of safety on buses may need to be examined more closely once the legal process of this case is over. "We're never closed to looking at how Canadians can be more safe and more secure," Day told reporters in Quebec Thursday. "This particular incident, as horrific as it is, is obviously extremely rare." Witnesses described a nightmarish scene inside the bus. Caton and others said once they escaped the bus, they prevented the attacker from getting off by threatening him with makeshift weapons - a hammer and a metal bar. "We were telling him, 'Stay put, stay put, stay there, don't try to come out.' He tried to get the bus working and the bus driver disabled the bus somehow in the back, I'm not sure how he did it, and at that point, I think the police showed up," he said, adding officers rushed them away. Caton described the man who attacked the passenger as about six feet tall, 200 pounds, with a bald head and wearing sunglasses. He seemed oblivious to others when the stabbing occurred, said Caton. Caton said he was struck by how calm the man was. He just walked up to the front of the bus and dropped the head, Caton said. Caton said the victim boarded in Edmonton, was Aboriginal in appearance, was wearing hip-hop clothing and appeared to be around 20 years of age. "When we saw the head, we knew he was dead," he said. "I don't think the guy knew him at all. I think he was really crazy . . . the poor guy, he didn't see it coming." Two yellow school buses were brought in to the closed-off stretch of highway for passengers to sit in while the standoff between officers and the man inside the bus proceeded for hours. The passengers were later taken to Brandon, Man., to be interviewed by police and to stay overnight at a hotel there. Some will be resuming their trips later Thursday. Crisis counsellors were also at the hotel to provide support to the passengers, and counsellors could be seen chatting with them outside the hotel as groups went out to local stores for snacks or to smoke cigarettes. One small boy, who was with an adult man and woman, was given a plush teddy bear by a crisis health worker. Another young man from Nova Scotia sat outside the Brandon hotel smoking around 3 a.m. Visibly shaken, he said RCMP had taken 36 witnesses in for questioning into a detachment approximately 100 kilometres east. "I felt bad that all the young people and old people had to see that," he said. The man, who did not want his name used, said the victim of the stabbing had been sleeping before the attack. Other passengers said that the two men were sitting at the rear of the bus and the stabbing victim was listening to music through his headphones. The men were both sitting in the back of the bus, and the attack appeared to be unprovoked. "The first thing I heard was something like a terrible type (of) yowl and that was from the guy who got stabbed," said an elderly woman on the bus, from Winnipeg. The woman and her adult daughter said they were three or four rows in front of the suspect when the attack began. "(My daughter said) 'Oh my God' and everybody else started screaming," she said. "They had terror in their eyes." Passengers said there was a rush of people toward the front of the bus to get off. Two other passengers on the bus, a 22-year-old man and 21-year-old woman from France, said they were heading to Winnipeg after visiting the woman's father in Whitehorse. The 22-year-old man said in French that he saw a man holding a long knife repeatedly stab another passenger. He and his girlfriend said they were shocked by the attack, and the isolation in the middle of the prairie when it occurred. "There was nowhere to go," she said. Wesley said counselling will be provided and monetary compensation will be determined on an individual basis. "We are going to do whatever we need to provide the passengers with counselling or any other measures to make sure they're taken care of," he said Thursday. He said there are security systems on the buses that enable drivers to contact the Greyhound operations office quickly. He said officials from the company have been in talks with Transport Canada to review security measures on bus routes, but it could prove difficult. "Well, the rural nature of our network doesn't allow us to have airport-style security - doesn't make it practical for us to do that. We're working with Transport Canada to review inner-city bus security," Wesley said. "We're working with them to make things as safe as possible." - Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:17am Edited: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:19am | ||
| Chopper User Info... | Holy shit :o - Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:49am | ||
| Evil Temtress User Info... | Jesus Christ!Thats straight outa compton! - Thu, 31 Jul 2008 2:19pm | ||
| JDL User Info... | fucking brutal... i cant imagine what it was like having to shuffle out of the bus. Pretty disgusting shit; and I hope this shit-wad gets what coming... mentally disturbed or not; theres a line to be drawn. He needs to go and not to jail, but straight to hell. - Thu, 31 Jul 2008 2:29pm | ||
| Spinvis User Info... | crazy!! - Thu, 31 Jul 2008 4:41pm | ||
| BBJones User Info... | One of the rare times it makes me think it would be good to be an American. At least then 10 people would have pulled out their guns and shot the nutbag. Assuming he didn't pull out a fully automatic uzi and kill everyone first instead of just one person... Apart from that... yikes! - Thu, 31 Jul 2008 4:51pm Edited: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 4:52pm | ||
| Eurydice User Info... | i started crying when i read that. so horrifying - Thu, 31 Jul 2008 4:57pm | ||
| Zedius User Info... | I usually think that guns would be a good thing in situations like this, but this guy was crazy and he was stabbing the crap out of someone without provocation. It wouldn't have done any good, and it would have left the family with less answers than they'll hopefully get in the future. - Thu, 31 Jul 2008 4:59pm Edited: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 4:59pm | ||
| The Notorious HIV User Info... | whats wrong with wanting some head? those bus rides are really long. - Thu, 31 Jul 2008 6:32pm | ||
| Chopper User Info... | 'At least then 10 people would have pulled out their guns and shot the nutbag.' Except most American's don't have permits to carry sidearms. Not to mention 10 people who aren't regular shooters are not 10 people I want around me if this ever happened to me. They'd end up killing and injuring more than were saved. - Thu, 31 Jul 2008 8:44pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | "Except most American's don't have permits to carry sidearms" just because theres permits and laws stating that no-one can carry a concealed weapon; doesn't mean that people, in the states, dont carry one. Look at compton, you think gun control matters there? what about brooklyn? texas? flint michigan? st.louis? all these places you could regularly walk down the street and EXPECT someone to be carrying a gun. permit or none. and I tend heir on the side that, if this happened down south, no question the crim. would be dead from multiple gunshot wounds. Quite frankly, if i were the victims family; theres only one thing i would want more than anythign in this world... a gun and this nutter in the same place. Justice would be served. - Fri, 1 Aug 2008 9:35am Edited: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 9:37am | ||
| Name/Alias User Info... | I think a red hot branding iron would give me more satisfaction than a gun. Or a bottle of maple syrup & a red ants nest, but how would you transport the ants nest without the ants attacking you? I gotta think about this. - Fri, 1 Aug 2008 9:47am | ||
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| JDL User Info... | "I think a red hot branding iron would give me more satisfaction than a gun. " what... you gunna brand "N.P.H." on him :P? - Fri, 1 Aug 2008 6:52pm | ||
| 420-69 User Info... | so fuckin gnar - Sat, 2 Aug 2008 12:52am | ||
| stefan User Info... | I heard about this right as it was reported. What a bad night of sleep i had that night. I don't understand how it relates to American gun control laws, or why such a terrible incident just instantly gets people talking about how great revenge is, thus getting a hard-on for more violence. I think such an incident should warrent empathy for those who had that knock on the door or that early morning phone call to find out their son, brother or friend had been horribly murdered for absolutely no reason whatsoever. The perpitraitor of this is the most hated and despised people in Canada right now. He'll be treated as such until the day he dies. Mob rule won't enhance it and torture fetishism (red ants, branding, etc) only acts to align people closer to the attacker then pay their respect to a young man who had his life stolen from him. I wonder how many unimaginative metalheads in Canada are using this tragic story as source material for some shitty song lyrics. I'm going to assume a lot. - Sat, 2 Aug 2008 5:24pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | oh come on, pointing fingers and telling us how we should be treating this "situation" which is completely unrelated to anyone on this board(assumption of course) is any better? Just because I think this idiot should die for his crime doesn't mean i have no compassion for the victims family. You seem to think(under a seriously ignorant assumption) that all this thread is about is "vengence" and "revenge"... its simply a bunch of people in agree-ance that no matter how it happens, this guy should die. What does that bring us, you ask? well 1 less fucking nutter our country has to worry about. Instead he'll be put up in a psyc. ward and "locked away" for 25 years; big fucking deal. Give your head a shake if you actually think that's justice well served. - Sat, 2 Aug 2008 6:07pm | ||
| stefan User Info... | I'm simply pointing out how the ratio between people showing their sympathy for the death of a kid and rants about how to do away with this fuck-up. I personally think that once his head has cleared and he realizes what he has done, who he has effected and how the public feels about him each day he lives will be much more torturous then any death penalty. Every form of punishment of death is mechanized to be as humane as possible. For christ's sake, they suave your arm with alcohol before lethal injection. - Sat, 2 Aug 2008 6:24pm | ||
| Andrew User Info... | It's pretty sad that a bus full of people couldn't all jump this guy right when it started and possibly give the kid the chance of life. - Sat, 2 Aug 2008 8:39pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | In situations like this, it is OK for cops to shoot to kill whether or not they are being threatened. Why is it fine for an unarmed guy in an airport to be tasered to death but they couldn't give this guy some jolts or lead? Sick shit. - Sat, 2 Aug 2008 8:59pm | ||
| Sati User Info... | ugh, I can't believe I'm writing to this thread... or that I have information that can contribute to this thread. I'd almost prefer if I'd cried like that other person said and then just pushed it aside. I normally don't seek out details but this was unbelievable. Anyway, I think it happened fast and I believe he'd already all but killed the guy when people noticed and started panicing to run out - he was stabbing him in the throat and it was probably already a big gory mess in there with blood spurting everywhere. Blood spurts really forcefully and really far I hear. I mean, they were all trapped in a small space. so awful. So I doubt it'd occur to anyone that the guy could be saved, nevermind think to do anything other than get away from the madman. I think it quoted someone as saying how especially (tough or whatever) it was because once they got out of the bus they were in the middle of nowhere - there was nowhere to go. (*edit - sorry I should read entire threads over before I post) And by the time the cops got there they knew the victim was dead because he'd already shown the other guys who had come back to see if they could help, his head. There'd be no point in tasering or killing him at that point - there was no one else he could hurt on the bus he was locked in. Really tragic, really sad. It'll take a long time for those communities to shake off something like this. I kinda feel for all of them. - Sat, 2 Aug 2008 9:23pm Edited: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 9:31pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Someone commits a crime like that, there is an ongoing point to killing him. The motivation to do so does not cease. Mentally ill or not, this guy needs to be put down. If it was someone you loved, you'd probably feel a little differently, I'm sure. - Sat, 2 Aug 2008 9:37pm Edited: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 9:39pm | ||
| DOOMHAMMER User Info... | If only we had guns, great logic. If everyone carried knives someone could have stabbed him preemptively! - Sun, 3 Aug 2008 3:24pm | ||
| Spinvis User Info... | "It's pretty sad that a bus full of people couldn't all jump this guy right when it started and possibly give the kid the chance of life" Its so easy to criticize the situation that you had no part in. You could never even imagine what those people were going through and you can sit behind the safety of your computer and critique their actions?? I've been on greyhound before and those seats are super narrow, I don't understand how someone could just jump in there to defend the guy. First thing I would think is what the hell is happening, it would be shocking... personal opinion though... by the time anyone realized what was going on, he would have been stabbed countless times!!! - Sun, 3 Aug 2008 4:23pm | ||
| DOOMHAMMER User Info... | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=096_1217580722 - Sun, 3 Aug 2008 5:27pm | ||
| Andrew User Info... | Well it is pretty sad... - Sun, 3 Aug 2008 5:55pm Edited: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 5:56pm | ||
| Spinvis User Info... | Wasnt it a hunting knife? someone would have to be mighty brave to confront a psychopath wielding something like that, in narrow seats. I guess if I had my machete in my purse at the time... - Mon, 4 Aug 2008 8:24pm | ||
| stefan User Info... | Remember a few posts ago when I said that making the guy live with himself would be more torturous then all of the "rah rah, kill the fucker!" comments and suggestions made? I rest my case: ""Please kill me," said 40-year-old Vincent Li, who is facing second-degree murder charges. Provincial court Judge Michel Chartier had heard, and seen, enough. - Tue, 5 Aug 2008 9:23pm | ||
| JDL User Info... | "Remember a few posts ago when I said that making the guy live with himself would be more torturous then all of the "rah rah, kill the fucker!" comments and suggestions made?" Just because he wants us to kill him; doesn't mean he aknowledges what he's done. And if this proves anything; it'll be he's metally unfit to stand trial therefore cant be charged with the allegations. Is that then justice well served? We fund his "rehabilitation" into society? I dont want that asshole any where near freedom let alone living in the same world Im in. But that's just my opinion. - Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:40am | ||
| LETSGETRAD! User Info... | theyre gonna have a new slogan at least "our legroom is to die for" - Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:21am | ||
| grimlord User Info... | If you listen to the livelink (link) doomhammer put up ,at the end .... did the cop say he was eating part of the body . Holyshit .....this man is more fucked then we all know and could ever know .We all could speculate about what we would have done or what we would like to do to this man .But that only brings us closer to this kind of (use the term loosely)human being, and unfortunately we have way to many of them in all society around the world. - Tue, 12 Aug 2008 6:37pm | ||
| zedius User Info... | How's this for a weird take on it? He was a windigo? http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Columnists/Hanon_Andrew/2008/08/11/6408951-sun.html - Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:13pm | ||
| Chopper User Info... | I'm sure it's all posturing for a psych plea. - Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:11am | ||
| Mofo User Info... |  http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/story.html?id=0ae00464-9d02-416a-9ae4-08ccc246c322 - Wed, 13 Aug 2008 1:53am | ||
| Mofo User Info... | also...anyone in the market for a slightly used bus might wanna avoid this one...or any used Greyhound bus for that matter. http://www.used-buses.net/bustypes/img/greyhound-bus-1.jpg - Wed, 13 Aug 2008 1:57am Edited: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 1:58am | ||
| Sati User Info... | ok, that windigo thing was the creepiest thing ever! If all people need is to be inspired by a little literature that falls their way... - Wed, 13 Aug 2008 6:27am | ||
| Bounce User Info... | Harsh! http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080807/funeral_protest_080807/20080807 - Tue, 19 Aug 2008 4:24pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | absolutely fucking disgusting point of view from that waste of skin. - Tue, 19 Aug 2008 4:41pm | ||
| Bounce User Info... | I just read this today, It's CRAZY...Chopper thought I was bad, I checked out this church groups website...holy shit...I feel so bad for Tim McLeans family, like the incedent isn't bad enough they have to deal with crazy church people?...I'm almost speachless - Tue, 19 Aug 2008 4:46pm | ||
| Bounce User Info... | oh and thanks for that JI....your cool... - Tue, 19 Aug 2008 4:56pm | ||
| Mofo User Info... |  Shit, I bet they [the bible thumpers] even have little tent cities and shit...or maybe are trying to. Now I really have my hate on for organised religion! & if there really were a sugar plum up in the sky waiting to save us all, I'm quite sure he (or she) would hate religion too. - Tue, 19 Aug 2008 5:39pm Edited: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 5:44pm | ||
| Mofo User Info... |  but, if by the Baptist's rationale, god (or the magic plum fairy) is punishing ua all for our immoral acts....then what about this? http://www.esdjournal.com/articles/Lightning/texas%20pastor.htm Here is a Baptist church burning after being hit by lightning - Tue, 19 Aug 2008 6:14pm Edited: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 6:16pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | I wouldn't even waste my bandwidth looking at that church's website. Waste of cyberspace and waste of skin they are. Id say her parents should feel ashamed of themselves; but they certainly don't... I pity them that they hate the world so much. - Tue, 19 Aug 2008 7:34pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | I have a feeling that Bounce may have misunderstood Ji's post. - Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:24am | ||
| Bounce User Info... | I think I may have...but you never know!...lol...I tend to push buttons - Wed, 20 Aug 2008 9:02am | ||
| JDL User Info... | you know the waste of skin i was talking about was the daughter of the churchies in question... not you bounce... but nice try :P - Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:14am | ||
| Bounce User Info... | I wasn't actually sure! Chopper has called me that in the past!, I know i'm a bitch sometimes, but...there are people out there that love my skin!...I thought you may have been saying I was out of line to post that story on here, sorry... - Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:21am | ||
| JDL User Info... | Id never call a lady a waste of skin ;) My wife would cut off my.... YIKES! UNLESS, you believe in what that church is spreadin. - Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:03pm | ||
| Bounce User Info... | NEVER!...check this out!...I remember watching this a while back, it's that guys wife and kids...CRAZY... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEqlcxW8aS8 - Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:56pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | GOD DAMB CRAZY PEOPLE SUCK ! WHERE IS THERE BRAIN IN THE FUCKING DARK AGES! - Thu, 21 Aug 2008 4:39pm | ||
| DOOMHAMMER User Info... | http://www.godhatesfags.com The phelps family has been notorious forever, Watch the documentary on them, its pretty good. If I remember correctly they recently lost a lawsuit for around 22 million because they kept protesting at US army funerals and someones dad got pissed off. Anyways, tyra banks is painfully stupid when trying to play the audience. They are constantly on shows being paraded around because of their 'oh so shocking' opinions while the sad fact is what they say isnt much different than what millions of people actually think. edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foHGMnJ9iFc - Fri, 22 Aug 2008 2:20pm Edited: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 2:21pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | "the sad fact is what they say isnt much different than what millions of people actually think." i wouldn't say that millions of people secretly think all "fags" should die. Nor do I know anyone else that deep down low wants to hold a sign that speaks "Jew Fags". - Fri, 22 Aug 2008 3:30pm | ||
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