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David Arthur Johnston
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saving the world

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I'm so big on patience because I need it often. It's wierd. I know the truth of fate and subsequently have an understanding of the root of everything. I know that the world will be saved as fast as it takes everyone to understand fate and that there is no other cause worth standing behind, because if it doesn't take into account the predestined nature of all things it is still allowing for a lie somewhere...

I realize the idea of choice is addictive; that people like the idea that they are the creators of their motion but it's not true and it gives allowance for spite because we then can blame people and have spite instead of understanding that there is no evil... we rely on spite because going all the way in adhering to truth means everything in people's lives must change--- that they must no longer listen to the police; that they must no longer pay taxes; that they must take the responsibility of actualizing the reality of freedom (what some call Heaven-on-Earth... planting food everywhere, etc...).

We have gotten ourselves into a bind, where, if we were to continue bowing to this monster of a government, we would condemn our children to Hell... but if we don't the structure that is in place will condemn us and steal our children. So, I guess we have to ask ourselves "What sort of adventure do we want?"

By promoting the truth of fate I see an actual mass enlightenment where people will fearlessly cease the support of pride at all costs, and then we will find that the most rudimentary system of trust (anarchy) is exactly what breeds true community.

This truth becomes obvious and spreads exponentially- as fast as a consideration of patience and an acknowledged want of truth (divinity).

We'll see what happens.

peace

David Arthur Johnston

Victoria, BC, Canada

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Home page- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman

Journal of the Occupation of St. Ann's Academy (Victoria, BC, Canada)- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman/welcome.htm

Crazy Monkies and the Battle for Planet Earth- http://www.loveandfearlessness.com - Mon, 4 Dec 2006 9:48am
Shaggy
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Definately check his homepage out. There's nothing like the babblings of a psych patient. Definately makes me wonder how long these posts take to make, since it's obvious you have a problem keeping a single train of thought.

But hey, preach on. If you enjoy wasting your time like this... - Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:40am
Dr.DoomXXX
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Fuck! You should take a look at his user info. I didn't take the time to read it but it looks like it's his life story. - Mon, 4 Dec 2006 5:02pm
Hang the DJ
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Lordpatch? - Mon, 4 Dec 2006 7:37pm
David Arthur Johnston
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me? - Mon, 4 Dec 2006 8:22pm
MURDALIZER
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He who knows does not speak
he who speaks does not know - Mon, 4 Dec 2006 9:04pm
Shaggy
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Nah Doc, I lost enough IQ just from watching 1min of the rambling video. - Mon, 4 Dec 2006 11:07pm
trevor corey
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Not last night, but the night before
Three little monkeys came to me door
One had a banjo, one had a drum
One had a pancake stuck to his bum! - Tue, 5 Dec 2006 3:13am
David Arthur Johnston
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we all shine with everything that we are all the time... humility is a phenomenon that makes the world obvious, it also has a very bright shine.

don't worry about 'doing'- accept that you can only be the thing you are... now, what are you? Something that sees? the center of the universe? someone who knows why the old boys in the mountains of Peru maintain a culture of psycedelic drug use? something that has the ability to save the whole world? something that is too tired to figure out the meaning of life so instead gets addicted to pushing buttons and causing reactions? something good that experiments with lies?

You are. May you savour all of it. - Tue, 5 Dec 2006 6:26am Edited: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 9:23am
Shaggy
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I can't seem to face up to the facts
I'm tense and nervous and I can't relax
I can't sleep 'cause my bed's on fire
Don't touch me I'm a real live wire

Psycho Killer
Qu'est que c'est?
Fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far far better
Run run run run run run run away
Psycho Killer
Qu'est que c'est?
Fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far far better
Run run run run run run run away

You start a conversation you can't even finish it.
You're talkin' a lot, but you're not sayin' anything.
When I have nothing to say, my lips are sealed.
Say something once, why say it again?

Psycho Killer,
Qu'est que c'est?
Fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far far better
Run run run run run run run away
Psycho Killer
Qu'est que c'est?
Fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far far better
Run run run run run run run away

Ce que j'ai fais, ce soir la
Ce qu'elle a dit, ce soir la
Realisant mon espoir
Je me lance, vers la gloire... Ok
We are vain and we are blind
I hate people when they're not polite

Psycho Killer,
Qu'est que c'est?
Fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far far better
Run run run run run run run away
Psycho Killer,
Qu'est que c'est?
Fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far far better
Run run run run run run run away

Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh... - Tue, 5 Dec 2006 12:23pm
Laprider
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I have my doubts as to whether is is actually "David" posting?
Where s he getting online at these odd hours, other then the library I know of no other free internet, as he shuns money., well?
Also, I did clic on the posted link of his webage, first thing that pops up is a banner add for one of the most nasty corporations in existence.
two senarios
1/ it ain't really him

2/ he is a hypocrite

I actually have no problem with Davids choices in life, so this doesn't seem to jibe, to each his own, I love my union job, I can work when I want and play music when I want, how many jobs can you say I'm going on tour ( lots) and always come back to work? Money= fed child - Tue, 5 Dec 2006 1:33pm Edited: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 1:34pm
Shaggy
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If you watch the vid on his page, he obviously knows someone that has a house with a webcam and obviously some form of net connection. - Tue, 5 Dec 2006 2:08pm Edited: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 2:08pm
David Arthur Johnston
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Shaggy,

I like you. You're funny... and I know lots of people.

Laprider,

I've never made a choice before, though I once thought I did. You've never made a choice before, either. May we honour our children by acceptance of the 'now'. May we be what we would hope they will become; ones who'd rather die than commit themselves to a perpetual retarded slavery; ones who live in communities where divine wisdom abounds and all are content knowing there is no trauma too daunting.

May those with children take care of them and support the tent-city when it comes (and it will be here in September '07, at the latest).
May those who don't have children look to the joy of dancing with the devil. - Tue, 5 Dec 2006 2:48pm
J
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So, i've read everything you have to say, and even put up with the videos i've seen of you and your beliefs.

Honestly, I dont feel angry that i have to pay taxes... file a tax return and you get the majority of it back unless you owe money.

Cant u understand that people who live like me/us ARE happy... and it doesn't matter if the wool's been pulled over our eyes... Im happy, and thats the bottom line. As you said we all take on our shine... and whether or not we take our shine to your beliefs is our choice!
like you said, we all shine

best of luck and yes, patience be with you. - Tue, 5 Dec 2006 2:56pm
David Arthur Johnston
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Why is it so hard to see how capitalism is fucking everything? Many have worked a long hard time, doing their best to survive, to bring up children. Families have had properties for generations, every day justifying the lie that is killing all life, the exploitation of a planet no one owns- and these are the grandparents we cherish, no one wants everything to die, were just doing the best we can- the world is coughing blood and pride kills.

cool - Tue, 5 Dec 2006 3:13pm
Shaggy
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It's the joy of being human. We're not all mindless automatons that think and feel exactly the same. You have your beliefs and others have theirs. The difference being all you're attempting to do is cram your views down our throats, even when told it's not appreciated or needed. Give it a rest for christ sakes. The majority of people on this site will never share your beliefs. - Tue, 5 Dec 2006 4:13pm
Hang the DJ
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Holy crap I just looked at the homepage...

I... I don't think I'm going to be able to sleep tonight...

I definitely don't agree with things you're saying, simply because "god" is mentioned way too many times... I don't like it when people call you a devil worshipper because you don't believe in god. Most real atheists do not believe in the existence of the devil because he was said to have been created by "god". Therefore, having both as simple stories. I know you didn't say this directly but you gave mention to people who don't believe in god believing in satan....

yep - Tue, 5 Dec 2006 4:28pm
David Arthur Johnston
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I said something like 'believing in pride is tantamount to worshipping the devil'.. or did I write that somewhere?... anyhoo, I think it is important to understand that there are some impossible things and believing that they are possible has a retarding effect that leads to destruction.

What is is. What isn't is not. I exhert myself because I know that truth brings courage and I know that we need courage to do what we have to do to save the world--- like remembering what conscientiousness is and that fences and roads are turning the forests into prisons for all the life there--- like all the horror plus the absense of community and freedom.

We ARE nature... yes, all the horrible stuff is natural too, it is when we know our nature that we become fearless and be more what we are, which is love.

So, yes, it sounds like religion, yet it is true and important... whatever. Taxpayers are guilty of the greatest horror imaginable, and the only way to transcend this condition is by stepping even closer to the simplicity--- I am a monkey... and I may never get my desire of a family and I will still not go crazy... I'll see...

"...When you believe in things that you don't understand,
Then you suffer,
Superstition ain't the way

Very superstitious, wash your face and hands,
Rid me of the problem, do all that you can,
Keep me in a daydream, keep me goin' strong,
You don't wanna save me, sad is my song..." - Tue, 5 Dec 2006 4:59pm Edited: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 5:01pm
Shaggy
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Not crazy? That statement alone pretty much cements that you are. Those that are insane don't realise they're insane, because that's their 'truth' Their perceptions are their perceptions.

As for not living in fear and attempting to make yourself seem like this wonderfully peacful person? It's actually been my pleasure to meet one of teh cops you had to deal with the day they cleared all you streeters out of St Annes. And If I take your POV and his and take a bit from both to actually gain my own perceptions of how things go in your little world, you are indeed fearful as well as angry.

And on that note. I'll leave you be. You're not worth wasting the energy to even respond to. You can't talk sense to someone who's mentally unbalanced. - Tue, 5 Dec 2006 5:24pm
Hang the DJ
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"I will still not go crazy"

You ARE crazy - Tue, 5 Dec 2006 5:26pm
Mofo
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David, for one who speaks of love and patience with so much adornment, it baffles me how contradictory your "writings" are.
They speak more of the frustrations of a guy who lost something somewhere and decided to blame the system rather than having a good look in that pool of water called life's mirror.

By suggesting that there are no choices in life, you rid yourself of whatever mistakes you have made, or will make.
You free yourself from that thing called responsibility.
It allows you to float on your feathery cloud of peace and pontification pointing the finger at others (who are actually paying your way) accusing them and their beliefs for your obvious downfalls. If you are so against capitalism why is it you are here under it's cosy and warm umbrella?

If you are TRULY wanting to eradicate poverty (like you say) why aren't you in Africa trying to help....oh I guess that would mean David would have to make a decision, and David can't do that anymore right?
David doesn't believe in choice, fate (taxpayers money) will take care of David from here on end, and David will never have to blame himself for his own problems again.

Please, spare us your rheroric painted with peaceful words, take off your rosey shades and look in the mirror.
You DO have choice, this is not a fuckin dress rehearsal.

You really aren't fooling anyone here, you speak of patience but all I hear is frustration in your writings, all I can see is a guy who has lost A LOT, a guy who has an obvious intellect but was ONCE angry at himself for not utilizing it, and decided rather to blame the rest of the world.....ahhh fatalisim what a rush, what an escape.
One word David....."SOMA" - Wed, 6 Dec 2006 8:19am Edited: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 8:27am
David Arthur Johnston
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I'm not the one supporting a system rooted in the murders and rapes of thousands of native kids.

... and MoFo,

May you never pay taxes again... and if you do, you are forgiven as you can only be your experience. Peace.

helpful hint- you can tell people are talking shit when they are adament about pride being a virtue.

k - Wed, 6 Dec 2006 9:50am Edited: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 9:56am
Mofo
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David, I mean not diminish your beliefs, they are as significant as mine are to me. I simply question that which you profess. I don't believe your soap box is as firm as you are trying to sell us it is. Its nails are getting rusty David, very rusty.

We are all kept here by the same force,...gravity....get in touch with it if your not too proud to.
You may not be (in your mind) "supporting the system rooted in murders and rape" but your non-support doesn't change the fact that it happened. It is your action that has the effect here, but that would require choice wouldn't it? I admire your righteousnous, its rare, medium rare. But what are you doing with IT aside from pontification, your sermons on the mound?

There is no perfect world, and if you look around you, you will find wrongs every which way, you would have to become a hermit to rid yourself of any wrongful doings.

helpful hint- you are far from prophet status (I know you have'nt suggest such) but your words reek of acid-washed, mid-life prophecy. I hope that doesn't break your halo too much.. - Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:33am Edited: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:45am
begbie
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You save the cheerleader and you save the world!!! - Wed, 6 Dec 2006 2:43pm
trevor corey
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Get tough or die, thats my life experience. I think it's called natural selection, and yes, paying taxes is for chumps. Rich people don't pay taxes, they hire professional money managers to deal with that nonsense.



Mmmmmmmmmmm, cheerleaders. - Wed, 6 Dec 2006 4:10pm Edited: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 4:10pm
DAJ
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It is a perfect world. Objectively speaking, the 'now' can only be exactly what it is, forever. So, I guess one question could be "What is the devil's purpose?"

Everyone is a prophet. I'm not too concerned about being scrutinized- my job is to say 'fate' and 'patience'.

peace - Wed, 6 Dec 2006 5:22pm Edited: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 5:23pm
Aidan Logins
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There is no fate. We are already dead. - Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:25pm
Aidan Logins
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btw, David. There IS such thing as choice. If you can't feel it then you've lost something very human and very divine. The reason we sometimes believe there is no free will (as I did recently when my dreams fortelling the future became longer, more frequent, and completely accurate), is because we don't understand time. There IS choice, we can choose on many things. Only what we choose makes absolutely no difference. If there is no choice then there is no reason for existence. What use is existence if we have no free will. Without it we might as well be plants. Plants are great, but without appreciative animals, there is no reason for any existence. (if a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?) same shit. We need to experience things and know things for them to exist. We are spectators. Without spectators the show cannot go on. Even one spectator and there is a beautiful universe. If there was no one choosing to experience this universe, it simply wouldn't exist. I ramble worse than you do. The universe is passive, it's here because we are, and we are it. As we ARE the universe (it's infinite in segments, but each segment is as important as any other because all are necessary for its existence)- as we ARE the universe, we have choice. Nothing can "make" us do something. The whole world decides what we do with us. That is choice because we are the world as much as anything else. I dunno, maybe these are just good drugs. - Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:35pm
Aidan Logins
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Oh, and patience? I'd have it if I could, but apparently that's not up to me... not having a choice and all.
jk though, I'm full of patience. - Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:38pm
Mofo
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Philosophy 101
everything you know is wrong - Thu, 7 Dec 2006 8:22am
David Arthur Johnston
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maybe there is no purpose, either way, doesn't really matter.

apparently happiness is real

apparently pride is the root of all goofdom, always forgivable, though, as all ignorance is naivity... doesn't really matter though.

bear spirit is screaming- doesn't really matter
salmon spirit is screaming- doesn't really matter
cow spirit is screaming- doesn't really matter
pig spirit is screaming- doesn't really matter
... as long as we have warm Christmasses we can pretend helplessness as we look at the world and listen to our new stereos and content ourselves with the taxes we spend on the Olympics and war... doesn't really matter

may the capitalists realize perfect capitalism, so that they may know perfection.
may the murderers and rapists realize perfection in their disciplines so that they may come to know perfection itself.

doesn't really matter, whatever will be will be- whatever your reaction to this article is, it is still not a choice.

You're God- now how deceived would you have to be for that to be true?

patience be with you - Thu, 7 Dec 2006 9:48am
DAJ
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Yes, a falling tree does make sound even if there are no ears around. Peace. - Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:04am
Cool Hand Luke Mister BEAUMONT
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you are what you eat.


YOU eat garbage.


sunday is for garbage picnics? - Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:07am
DAJ
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you believe in garbage?!? - Thu, 7 Dec 2006 12:20pm Edited: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 12:22pm
Aidan Logins
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I am killing myself tonight. Because of this thread. No free will; no reason for existence. - Thu, 7 Dec 2006 3:19pm
DAJ
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have fun - Thu, 7 Dec 2006 3:32pm
Aidan Logins
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I wanted to, but I didn't do it. I didn't have a choice dammit. - Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:02pm
Dr.DoomXXX
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But you didn't come here to make a choice, you've already made it. You're here to understand WHY you made the choice. - Fri, 8 Dec 2006 1:23pm
David Arthur Johnston
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Batman says "Eat your veggies." - Fri, 8 Dec 2006 2:35pm Edited: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 2:35pm
trevor corey
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Thats what Trevor says. Batman has "issues" - Fri, 8 Dec 2006 2:59pm
Dr.DoomXXX
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What him and Robin choose to do in their own personal time is none of our damn business. - Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:24pm
Mr. Hell
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"apparently pride is the root of all goofdom" - David Allan Grier Johnston

You know, if you said that in jail the inmates would beat the shit out of you. Good thing we're not in jail! - Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:53pm
jonny B. swell
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Has anyone seen that movie "What the bleep do we know about life?"
That movie was pretty fuckin cool. - Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:57pm
trevor corey
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Rough crowd.
DAJ tries to indoctinate us and ends up looking at pictures of comic strip gay porn, and threats of prison sex from a guy named Mr Hell. Ha!
Too funny! - Fri, 8 Dec 2006 11:03pm Edited: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 11:21pm
DAJ
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goof = belief in a lie

pride is a lie because we are conduits of experience and no one is the creator of any act or deed--- even God didn't choose to be God.

peace

... and also-

I could only hope that jail folk would focus on pride- then we will have people refusing to eat in custody, not because they are innocent, but because the monster of a crown doesn't have the right to hold anyone, guilty or innocent. - Sat, 9 Dec 2006 10:43am
Mr. Hell
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Yeah, I know some ex-cons who would be happy to take a goof round out of anyone on here saying the word 'goof'. They don't like the term 'prison sex'. They prefer to say 'goof filling'. - Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:55pm
David Arthur Johnston
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How would they feel about someone who liberates them?

A brother tells you when toilet paper is stuck to your shoe.

sometimes things happen - Sat, 9 Dec 2006 1:42pm
trevor corey
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"A brother tells you when toilet paper is stuck to your shoe"


Ahhhhh, good times eh DAJ? - Sat, 9 Dec 2006 1:57pm Edited: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 1:58pm
Dr.Doom XXX
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Of course! Simple minds, simple pleasures. - Sat, 9 Dec 2006 8:45pm
sober jake jackoff
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i read nothing this thread sucks. - Mon, 11 Dec 2006 1:31am
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