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Message Board > Controversy and Quarantine > The Real September 11, 1973 in Chile |
Lordpatch User Info... | On September 11, 1973, war planes--part of a military coup -- attacked Chile's largest city, leaving the La Moneda presidential palace in flames, and it's democratically elected president, Salvador Allende dead. The coup was carried out by troops who were directed, trained, and funded by the United States of America/CIA, and it inaugurated a bloodbath from which Chile has never recovered. Several hundred were machine-gunned in the Santiago soccer stadium, which was turned into a makeshift concentration camp and torture center. Others were just shot to death in the street, at military barracks and in other detention centers—many after enduring grotesque torture. Even some American civilians were killed. All in all, more than 60,000 Chileans were subjected to torture under 17 years of brutal military dictatorship under Augusto Pinochet, and 1 million people were forced into exile— all in a country of less than 14 million. It was all a part of Operation Condor, a covert plan created by the CIA and Henry Kissinger involving six Latin American countries including Chile, to assassinate thousands of political opponents. It's ironic that the official death toll in the Chilean coup—3,197—is almost identical to the number killed on 9/11 in America. In the last 50 years, the United States has promoted, financed and participated in over 200 incursions and 20 separate wars, killing over 8,000,000 people. 1952 - 79, 70,000 Iranians killed. ( Ayatollah Khomeini, US public enemy for the 1980s, was on the CIA payroll while in exile in Paris in 1970s, as were Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden at different times and in different places. ) 1954 - 120,000 Guatemalans killed 1954 - 1975, 4,000,000 Vietnamese and Cambodians killed. 1965 - 3,000 Dominican Republicans killed 1965 - 800,000 Indonesians killed 1973 - 30,000 Chileans killed 1975 - 250,000 East Timorese killed 1970s - 1,000,000 Angolans killed 1984 - 30,000 Nicaraguans killed 1980s - 80,000 El Salvadoreans killed 1989 - 8,000 Panamanians killed in an attempt to capture George H. Bush's CIA partner now turned enemy, Manuel Noriega, 1980s - over 700,000 Libyans, Grenadians, Somalians, Haitians, Afghanistanis, Sudanese, Brazilians, Argentineans and Yugoslavians killed, 1991 - over 1,000,000 Iraqis killed, including over 500,000 children -- about which Madeline Albright ( then, Secretary of State ) said "their deaths are worth the cost". While George W. Bush owns over 80% of the oil wells in Kuwait, trouble will continue there. ( Source: Philip Bradbury, Insight Magazine, November 2001 ) and to add to that 8,000 dead - Iraq since March 2003 4,000 dead - Afghanistan since Dec 2002 enough yet? or do we want more.. it's time that as the human race we come together and say ENOUGH ALREADY!! YA BASTA!! "civil disobedience. . . is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that numbers of people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of the leaders of their government and have gone to war, and millions have been killed because of this obedience. . . Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves, and all the while the grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem." -----Howard Zinn, "Failure to Quit", p. 45 ************************************** MORE INFOMATION ON THE COUP 1) http://www.namebase.org/chile.html 2) http://www.theotherseptember11chile1973.net/ 3) http://www.guardian.co.uk/ Pinochet_on_trial/Story/0,2763,209222,00.html ************************************* PICTURES Santiago, Chile. September 11th, 1973. "Carmen Gloria Quintana near her home in Santiago in July of 1987. Quintana, then 18 years old, suffered burns over 65 percent of her body at the hands of a Chilean army patrol on July 2, 1986 in one of the worst incidents of violence during the dictatorship of Chilean General Augusto Pinochet. Rodrigo Rojas Denegri, a 19-year-old photographer and son of a Chilean exile, was killed in the same incident. They were arrested during protests against the military regime in a neighborhood of Santiago by an army patrol, searched, beaten, held within proximity of inflammable material, sprinkled with fuel, set on fire, and taken to a place on the outskirts of the city where they were unable to receive medical care, and there they were abandoned." Several hundred were machine-gunned in the Santiago soccer stadium, which was turned into a makeshift concentration camp and torture center. Others were just shot to death in the street, at military barracks and in other detention centers—many after enduring grotesque torture. Even some American civilians were killed. All in all, more than 60,000 Chileans were subjected to torture under 17 years of brutal military dictatorship under Augusto Pinochet, and 1 million people were forced into exile— all in a country of less than 14 million. It was all a part of Operation Condor, a covert plan created by the CIA and Henry Kissinger involving six Latin American countries including Chile, to assassinate thousands of political opponents. It's ironic that the official death toll in the Chilean coup—3,197—is almost identical to the number killed on 9/11 in America. In the last 50 years, the United States has promoted, financed and participated in over 200 incursions and 20 separate wars, killing over 8,000,000 people. 1952 - 79, 70,000 Iranians killed. ( Ayatollah Khomeini, US public enemy for the 1980s, was on the CIA payroll while in exile in Paris in 1970s, as were Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden at different times and in different places. ) 1954 - 120,000 Guatemalans killed 1954 - 1975, 4,000,000 Vietnamese and Cambodians killed. 1965 - 3,000 Dominican Republicans killed 1965 - 800,000 Indonesians killed 1973 - 30,000 Chileans killed 1975 - 250,000 East Timorese killed 1970s - 1,000,000 Angolans killed 1984 - 30,000 Nicaraguans killed 1980s - 80,000 El Salvadoreans killed 1989 - 8,000 Panamanians killed in an attempt to capture George H. Bush's CIA partner now turned enemy, Manuel Noriega, 1980s - over 700,000 Libyans, Grenadians, Somalians, Haitians, Afghanistanis, Sudanese, Brazilians, Argentineans and Yugoslavians killed, 1991 - over 1,000,000 Iraqis killed, including over 500,000 children -- about which Madeline Albright ( then, Secretary of State ) said "their deaths are worth the cost". While George W. Bush owns over 80% of the oil wells in Kuwait, trouble will continue there. ( Source: Philip Bradbury, Insight Magazine, November 2001 ) and to add to that 8,000 dead - Iraq since March 2003 4,000 dead - Afghanistan since Dec 2002 enough yet? or do we want more.. it's time that as the human race we come together and say ENOUGH ALREADY!! YA BASTA!! "civil disobedience. . . is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that numbers of people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of the leaders of their government and have gone to war, and millions have been killed because of this obedience. . . Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves, and all the while the grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem." -----Howard Zinn, "Failure to Quit", p. 45 ************************************** MORE INFOMATION ON THE COUP 1) http://www.namebase.org/chile.html 2) http://www.theotherseptember11chile1973.net/ 3) http://www.guardian.co.uk/ Pinochet_on_trial/Story/0,2763,209222,00.html ************************************* PICTURES Santiago, Chile. September 11th, 1973. "Carmen Gloria Quintana near her home in Santiago in July of 1987. Quintana, then 18 years old, suffered burns over 65 percent of her body at the hands of a Chilean army patrol on July 2, 1986 in one of the worst incidents of violence during the dictatorship of Chilean General Augusto Pinochet. Rodrigo Rojas Denegri, a 19-year-old photographer and son of a Chilean exile, was killed in the same incident. They were arrested during protests against the military regime in a neighborhood of Santiago by an army patrol, searched, beaten, held within proximity of inflammable material, sprinkled with fuel, set on fire, and taken to a place on the outskirts of the city where they were unable to receive medical care, and there they were abandoned." http://raisethefist.com/news.cgi?artical=wire/-----729511063124607.4093886559.jpgIMG... - Mon, 11 Sep 2006 5:38pm Edited: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 5:44pm | ||
Lordpatch User Info... | Israel will be responsible for the next 9/11 By Khalid Amayreh Sep 11, 2006 Israel ’s ongoing crimes against the Lebanese and Palestinian peoples have apparently replenished the huge reservoir of anti-Americanism throughout the Muslim world. Arab and Muslim masses from Morocco to Indonesia are feeling, quite justifiably, that America is the enabler of Israeli criminality which has claimed additional hundreds of fresh victims, including numerous children annihilated with their families by American-supplied bombs and missiles. The US government not only gave Israel the military tools to commit genocidal crimes in Gaza and Lebanon but also provided the political-diplomatic cover which allowed Israel to perpetrate these crimes with impunity. Needless to say, any other country indulging in such nefarious crimes would have been strongly and unhesitatingly condemned by the whole world. Continued: http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/article_19934.shtml - Mon, 11 Sep 2006 5:58pm | ||
trevor corey User Info... | Not today Lordpatch - Mon, 11 Sep 2006 7:55pm | ||
Lordpatch User Info... | One in 5 Canadians sees 9/11 as U.S. plot - poll 11 Sep 2006 14:49:07 GMT Source: Reuters http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N11186384.htm OTTAWA, Sept 11 (Reuters) - One in five Canadians believes the attacks on the United States on Sept. 11, 2001, had nothing to do with Osama Bin Laden and were actually a plot by influential Americans, according to a poll released on Monday. The Ipsos-Reid poll found that 22 percent of Canadians, and 26 percent of young Canadians, agree with the conspiracy theory. The number was the highest, at 32 percent, in Quebec, which has shown the least support for the U.S. war on terror. The poll asked if the events of Sept. 11, "including the thousands of American citizens who lost their lives on that day, were actually orchestrated by a group of highly influential Americans and others as part of a wider global conspiracy to profit from and gain power and who are actually protecting Osama Bin Laden from being captured." "Conspiracy theories are popular, as we all know," said Ipsos pollster Paul Orovan. Sixty-six percent said the actions were carried out by Bin Laden's disciples as an attack on the United States and as part of a global war of terror against Western and affluent democracies. Twelve percent said neither or refused to answer. The random telephone survey of 1,000 adult Canadians was conducted for CanWest News Service and Global News from Aug. 29-31. Such a sample is considered accurate to within 3.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20. - Thu, 14 Sep 2006 8:53am | ||
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