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NO!, Grimlorn is not broken up!
| Message Board > Controversy and Quarantine > NO!, Grimlorn is not broken up! |
| Transgressor User Info... | Grimlorn has not broken up despite the hype around it. to set things straight, i repeat Grimlorn has NOT!!! broken up. we have merely released our drummer from his ranks. we are now searching for someone to replace him NO!! drug addicts!, STRICTLY MACHINE!!!!! contact us at [email protected] so mote it be. - Thu, 15 Dec 2005 3:44pm | ||
| canon.docre User Info... | Why didn't you post the same thing as in the bloodred metalheads forum? ----------- We have just recently kicked out our old drummer mike (the jew) and we are now looking for a Machine to replace him. NO DRUG ADDICTS!!! If you are a Machine and think you can advance Grimlorn, please email us at [email protected] ------------------- Go fuck yourself. I'm sorry I set up shows for you. - Thu, 22 Dec 2005 11:18am | ||
| Transgressor User Info... | FUCK YOU BITCH!!!! YOU GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!! - Thu, 22 Dec 2005 1:03pm | ||
| hesher User Info... | ha ha ha ha!!!!!! - Thu, 22 Dec 2005 4:42pm | ||
| Mordock.the.Benzite User Info... | Leave them alone canon...we both know that it's totally grim and NS to have your parents pick you up after a show. Right on. - Thu, 22 Dec 2005 5:28pm | ||
| Spinvis User Info... | Haha this is a good thread. Success finding a drummer with the same "ideals" living in Ladysmith. - Fri, 23 Dec 2005 9:14am | ||
| Akylore User Info... | Eeeks....I'm having a flashback about the whole Darkthrone incident in 1994 (if you've all read pages 303 to 305 of Lords of Chaos.) Fenriz himself stated this on the "Transilvanian Hunger" release: "We would like to state that 'Transilvanian Hunger' stands beyond any criticism, if any man should attempt to criticize this LP, he should be thoroughly patronized for his obvious jewish behaviour." The band issued an apology for the statement...as apparently, the word "jew" is substituted for "jerk" in Norway (this was written in Darkthrone's apology in page 305.) Yet the album still bears the title: "NORWEGIAN ARYAN BLACK METAL." Mind you...Varg Vikernes had collaboration on this album so that would explain it. Yet I'm still a fan of "A Blaze in the Northern Sky." Mind you, there's no Nazi/Anti-Semetic messages in those lyrics at all. Grimlorn's follow up to the bloodred thread (surprise surprise) deny the racial connotation...yet Grimlorn's lyrics don't have any Nazi/Anti-Semetic messages either, so I don't really care. If they still play Christ-raping black metal then I'm content, just as long as they don't go on a rampage like Nokturnal Mortem or Graveland. I just can't "spiritually" get into that sort of music, haha :P I'm looking forward to seeing them with a good drummer. "No drug addicts," that's awesome! - Fri, 23 Dec 2005 3:07pm | ||
| Transgressor User Info... | nag nag, were not fucking nazis. thanks for the support adrian Hails! - Fri, 23 Dec 2005 8:30pm | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | You don't know enough about history to say if you're Nazis or not. Offhand, I would say that an interest/attachment to "Nordic" iconography and mythology is a one way street - SIEG!- but if you want to play around , go ahead. Dick. - Fri, 23 Dec 2005 8:57pm | ||
| Transgressor User Info... | hmm, ok. and why one little word has pissed off so many people, quite boggles my mind and is really quite rediculous.anyways, for the record, were not nsbm. and when i used the term "jew", it was used in a racial discriminating way.it was simply meant in the way , as if you were to say "that person screwed me over" who here has honhestly never substituted the word screwed with jewed in that function of sentence? if you would like to read my lyrics to see for yourself, go to our website where the lyrics for our songs are listed http://www.geocities.com/havocmilitia why i am even attempting to explain myself to you, is beyond me. also id like to say that pcbm is sheepish and naive. - Fri, 23 Dec 2005 9:03pm | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | This "Hails" bullshit also makes me puke. - Fri, 23 Dec 2005 9:04pm | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | In case you didn't notice, I'm disgusted by any and all "Aryan" types. - Fri, 23 Dec 2005 9:05pm | ||
| Chris Logan User Info... | Idiots. - Fri, 23 Dec 2005 9:08pm | ||
| Transgressor User Info... | oops! i meant to say non racial discriminating - Fri, 23 Dec 2005 9:11pm | ||
| Transgressor User Info... | im sorry that you have the wrong idea about grimlorn, because i do greatly respect what you have done in the metal scene in victoria - Fri, 23 Dec 2005 9:12pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | There is a ridiculous idea that once crooked, means always crooked in some people's minds. Even if that means a mere slight of hand or mistake on someone's part. BM can be a murky water in the first place. Even if this were so, feeding a beast such as the NS culture with harsh words and outlandish resistance furthers the cause towards the shock value many of the bands dictate. It is almost like scratching at the wound to make it heal. It does not work. Grimlorn has always been a good live band as well as genuinely nice people. Perhaps someone should ask them straight up about their beliefs in question, without resorting to simple mud slinging. - Sat, 24 Dec 2005 1:48am | ||
| jeff User Info... | i love how this one guy flips out at them for saying one little thing. - Sat, 24 Dec 2005 9:29am | ||
| ML7Mike User Info... | the next time I 'hails' me a cab after a night of spending at Logans Ill be sure not to put my arm up too straight hehe :D . hofuckinho peeps! - Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:50am | ||
| Transgressor User Info... | haha no kidding - Sat, 24 Dec 2005 2:52pm | ||
| canon.docre User Info... | http://www.myspace.com/7994030 hey this doesn't happen to be your myspace profile, does it? looks sketchy beyond throwing the word "jew" out there as an insult. - Sun, 25 Dec 2005 12:10pm | ||
| hesher User Info... | Looks like this guy is a nazi sympathizer who has is obsessed with the female rectum. What a douche bag. Looks like this guy would fit right in on the blood red forum and the vancouver metal scene in general. - Sun, 25 Dec 2005 7:11pm | ||
| truth User Info... | this guy's a kid following his role models. educate. - Sun, 25 Dec 2005 7:39pm | ||
| ML7Mike User Info... | Hesher, thats BS. I know lots of people in the Vancouver scene who are certainly not nazi's, including the Bloodredders I actualy know in person. Nazi sympathizing unfortunately permeates all levels of the punk/hardcore/metal scene in every city, and yes I say speak against it and ostrasize those who support that but do not generalize and lump everyone from said scene into that category without looking first in the mirror of your own scene. - Sun, 25 Dec 2005 10:23pm | ||
| hesher User Info... | http://forum.bloodredmetalheads.com/viewtopic.php?t=2363 Scene mirror?? is that what those dudes with the funny haircuts on myspace look into or something? - Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:58am | ||
| ML7Mike User Info... | tasteless jokes and riddles do not make a whole scene or an individual racist though. Ignorant perhaps on behalf of the individuals. Most of those jokes suck badly regardless. TimmyTard has some really low class jokes yet he is on your myspace friends list. What gives with that? Generally I find Bloodred is a good connection to the westcoast metal scene, but that sure doesnt make me (or a large portion of other bands who use the board) 'nazi sympathizers' and I see a small amount of the members of that board making jokes in that thread. Anyone got any good newfie jokes btw? ( * runs from the 'hail' of fish being thrown at him ) excuse me Imdrunk ;) - Mon, 26 Dec 2005 1:00am | ||
| Akylore User Info... | Wow. I'm not sure if Victoria has the only messageboards where a simple request for a drummer turns into a political clusterfuck. I really am amazed. There probably are others I suppose, but I digress... I have to say this though...if a band member's beliefs (as much as I disagree with the NS ones plastered all over that myspace site) are going to start a mass political campaign against Grimlorn and the "Vancouver bloodred scene," do me a fucking favor. (1) BURN whatever Darkthrone albums you may own, for the events/reasons I had outlined earlier in this thread. (2) BURN whatever Malevolent Creation albums you may own, especially "Eternal," considering the smooth move Jason Blachowicz made on that album. (3) BURN whatever Axis of Advance (or) Rites of Thy Degringolade albums you may own, as their previous band "Sacrificial Abolishment" didn't exactly have multicultural ideals. ....shall I list more? I'd be willing to bet it may take up a good fraction of a lot of people's CD collections. Let's see how committed these people really are to this fucking witch hunt. Oh yeah, so do you guys have a drummer yet? - Mon, 26 Dec 2005 3:16am | ||
| J. Peatman User Info... | Was there a hype about Grimlorn breaking up? Sweet, a genuine hype! How many people were part of that, two? Calling people jews because they screwed you over might not have anything to do with racial issues no, but it is a typical act of modern black metal mannerism, and will no doubt gain you alot of scenepoints on the Full Moon Productions message board and elsewhere. Just like senselessly posting German WW2 propaganda on your Myspace. Sure, it probably doesn't have anything to do with your band, but apart from evidently trying to gain more personal black metal credit, it doesn't make any sense for a 19 year old from fucking Ladysmith, living in a country that helped liberate Europe from the Nazi dictatorship, to have such material on a webpage. Do you also cover your bedroom walls in those posters or would your parents not approve of that? In case you forgot: GERMANY LOST THE WAR. BADLY. Why wouldn't you be proud of your own country and its achievments and display Canadian war propaganda on your page? I'm sure there's enough material to be found on the internet. Oh but wait, people on black metal message boards will say you're a fag then. It's a tough world. - Mon, 26 Dec 2005 8:40am | ||
| canon.docre User Info... | Yeah I'm not generalizing any scenes here. Transgressor brought this on himself openly calling his ex-drummer a jew then denying any sort of racial connotation. I find these types are quick to make excuses about their behaviour and deny their beliefs, which I find pathetic and worthy of public ridicule. Malevolent Creation suck. Rites suck. Axis of Advance are mediocre. Darkthrone are douchebags but undeniably catchy. - Mon, 26 Dec 2005 1:46pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | Rites suck. Axis of Advance are mediocre. Darkthrone are douchebags but undeniably catchy. Scott you are so wrong it hurts my insides. You ARE SO WRONG GODDAMNIT!!!! - Mon, 26 Dec 2005 6:15pm | ||
| Akylore User Info... | "Darkthrone are douchebags but undeniably catchy." Hahahahaha.....yes I hear that. ;) - Mon, 26 Dec 2005 9:42pm | ||
| wendythirteen User Info... | ARENT GRIMLORN ALREADY ON THE BLOODRED SHITLIST..... - Tue, 27 Dec 2005 3:58pm | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | This is my impression of the Bloodred Board "Crust Punk = Suck Brutal DM that all sounds the same = grindcore Operation Winter Mist = Not Nazis/Ignoramuses" ps. NS attitudes and propaganda are uncalled for. I can't allow myself to support individuals who dabble in that kind of stuff. I've invested too much time and heart into living my life strictly against that. - Wed, 28 Dec 2005 12:30am | ||
| ML7Mike User Info... | There are 600 registered members of Bloodred. Not that I checked, but the OWM arguement involved what, like 5-10 members tops. And what about all those power metal freaks. Im not trying to defend anyone here, Im just seeing it like it is. : - Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:28am | ||
| The Other Nick User Info... | If you guys are looking for a machine, why not invest in a good drum machine like this "drum machine from hell" thing i've been hearing about. I hope you guys dont settle for a mediocre dummer that doesnt share the same vision as the rest of the band. - Thu, 29 Dec 2005 8:33pm | ||
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| Transgressor User Info... | hmmm. yes the myspace site is animus's page (our second guitarist) does this make the other grimlorn members ns? certainly not. i have friends from different races and i really dont give a shit what colour you are. this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion and is fucking stupid. were not a political band, nor do we like fucking politics(reason why i personally dont vote) so settle down with your accusations that seem to be coming straight out of your ass, and fuck off with your affirmations about grimlorn having a political stance. no we have not found a new drummer yet, we have someone in mind though. well see what happens. no we will not settle for some half ass drummer who is not black metal at heart. thanks for your drum machine suggestion, but id rather not. - Sat, 31 Dec 2005 3:57pm | ||
| moron User Info... | Maybe the King of Black Metal is available? http://theblackmetaldialogues.com/it.html Anyone else think that NSBM sounds like something you would see listed as an attribute in the gay personal section of Monday Magazine? Cheers - Sat, 31 Dec 2005 4:41pm | ||
| Akylore User Info... |  Limbonic Art used a drum machine, but their music was more symphonic/experimental in the first place, so there was more room for it. Tartaros used it as well, but they had the CastleVania thing going on, so again, it didn't bother me. Same thing for Eclipse. It wouldn't suit Grimlorn's music...finding a good drummer up island may be a difficult thing. Singers and guitarists are a plenty, but good drummers? With good gear who are solid and aren't fucking dope fiends? Eeeeks...but hey, better to settle for a decent one or none at all. Best of luck! - Sun, 1 Jan 2006 1:50am | ||
| The Other Nick User Info... | Hate Forest is drum machine based, but it is some of the most powerful, hateful, crushing, but non-blasphemy influenced black metal out there. I am as much for chacotic triggerless black metal drums as the next cult metal idiot, but don't be too quick to dismiss drum machines as just a replacement for a real drummer. I am just saying, if you guys are having trouble finding a drummer, you could use a drum machine while you are searching so you can keep writing new material to completion. - Wed, 4 Jan 2006 10:47pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | "Just like senselessly posting German WW2 propaganda on your Myspace. Sure, it probably doesn't have anything to do with your band, but apart from evidently trying to gain more personal black metal credit, it doesn't make any sense for a 19 year old from fucking Ladysmith, living in a country that helped liberate Europe from the Nazi dictatorship, to have such material on a webpage. Do you also cover your bedroom walls in those posters or would your parents not approve of that? In case you forgot: GERMANY LOST THE WAR. BADLY. Why wouldn't you be proud of your own country and its achievments and display Canadian war propaganda on your page? I'm sure there's enough material to be found on the internet. Oh but wait, people on black metal message boards will say you're a fag then. It's a tough world. -" In case you didn't know I am Polish and Poland was betrayed by the Allies. I think it's funny that Britain declared war on Germany when Germany invaded Poland, as if they were charging to the rescue, but by wars end Poland (in the hands of the Allies) was sold to the Russians to keep friendly negotiations because the Allies were too cowardly to deny Russia her spoils in fear of Soviet retaliation. Poland contributed to the Allied cause in flesh and blood, and in countless lives, but was treated no better than the enemy and Poland suffered with the Germans under Soviet opression until 1991. It seems the war was fought to save every European country except Poland and Germany and that makes me feel akin to the Germans, I will never forget that alongside Germans, my grandparents suffered at the hands of the Russians in Siberian work camps, some Allied victory... And I am not from Ladysmith, I am from Cedar, I moved here from Vancouver no more than a year ago. And yes, I do cover my bedroom walls in Nazi propaganda. You dont know fuck all. - Thu, 5 Jan 2006 8:55pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | And nothing I have said has anything to do with Grimlorn, if you have a problem with me or my beliefs then take it up with ME! NOT GRIMLORN!! Grimlorn is not a NSBM band and neither Transgressor or The Dead Lakes have declared themselves or Grimlorn to be NS, none of my interests or beliefs have any relation to Grimlorns music. - Thu, 5 Jan 2006 9:38pm | ||
| you're a troubled man... User Info... | Wow, what a tripper..., - Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:46pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | ? - Thu, 5 Jan 2006 11:02pm | ||
| Jaron Evil User Info... | " In case you didn't know I am Polish and Poland was betrayed by the Allies. I think it's funny that Britain declared war on Germany when Germany invaded Poland, as if they were charging to the rescue, but by wars end Poland (in the hands of the Allies) was sold to the Russians to keep friendly negotiations because the Allies were too cowardly to deny Russia her spoils in fear of Soviet retaliation. Poland contributed to the Allied cause in flesh and blood, and in countless lives, but was treated no better than the enemy and Poland suffered with the Germans under Soviet opression until 1991. It seems the war was fought to save every European country except Poland and Germany and that makes me feel akin to the Germans, I will never forget that alongside Germans, my grandparents suffered at the hands of the Russians in Siberian work camps, some Allied victory... And I am not from Ladysmith, I am from Cedar, I moved here from Vancouver no more than a year ago. And yes, I do cover my bedroom walls in Nazi propaganda." So basically because he feels akin to Germany because of the Germany & Poland situation, that makes sense for him to promote anti-semitism and racial hatred by posting Nazi propaganda all around his room. Oh ya, that makes sense. I suppose Darken from Graveland (Polish NSBM) even thought "Hmm well Europe fucked my people over so I'm gonna take it out on jews, blacks and gays too." There's logic. - - Fri, 6 Jan 2006 12:39am | ||
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| ANIMUS User Info... | "So basically because he feels akin to Germany because of the Germany & Poland situation, that makes sense for him to promote anti-semitism and racial hatred by posting Nazi propaganda all around his room. Oh ya, that makes sense. I suppose Darken from Graveland (Polish NSBM) even thought "Hmm well Europe fucked my people over so I'm gonna take it out on jews, blacks and gays too." There's logic." Quit jumping to conclusions. And are you jewish, black and gay?! Why the hell do you care?! Your the one that attacked me, I'd say your doing alot more hating than I am right now. And you know what? I can hate whoever the fuck I want, I dont give two shits about how wrong it is, I do what makes me fucking happy, I've only got one fucking life and I do not live it trying to please others. - Fri, 6 Jan 2006 6:59am | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | And what I said about Poland being fucked over is only part of it, I also have an interest in NS because it is an effective weapon against those who threaten white Aryan subculture, I use it but I do not nescesarily believe all of it, I can be friends with people of different races as long as they do not threaten that culture, I do what I can to ensure it's survival but that doesn't mean I have to hate everyone who is not white. - Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:12am | ||
| Jaron Evil User Info... | As a matter of fact, I DO happen to be Jewish. And I don't have anything against Poland or Germany. And to my knowledge I have never "threatened the Aryan subculture" whatever that means, nor have any of the Jewish people I know. Your right that you only got one life to lead. If you wanna spend it being hateful and angry, that's entirely up to you. - - Fri, 6 Jan 2006 12:35pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | I have nothing against you man, you aren't a threat to me and I so I have no reason to hate you. I only use NS as a weapon against my enemys, it makes me stronger in my resolve because to be an effective soldier you must be cold and mercliess and NS is cold and merciless hate, this is the most effective weapon of war when your goal is to totally annihilate your enemy, I know it's pointless and stupid to hate everyone irrationaly. And I also have an aesthetic based interest in WW2 Germany. - Fri, 6 Jan 2006 12:46pm | ||
| jay brown User Info... | white aryan subculture........... bwahahahahahahah, yup I hate it when people fuck with wal mart and mcdonalds too... - Fri, 6 Jan 2006 3:27pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | hahaha, shutup. - Fri, 6 Jan 2006 8:52pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | "this is the most effective weapon of war when your goal is to totally annihilate your enemy" That and Zyklon B... - Sat, 7 Jan 2006 1:10pm | ||
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| Transgressor User Info... | calm down children,we are not at war with each other. - Sat, 7 Jan 2006 3:23pm | ||
| jay brown User Info... | Zyklon B, I think you can buy that at Wal Mart. They keep it in the aisle they send all their employees that try to bring in the union. I thik it's right next to where they keep the forms for their employees medical benifits... - Sat, 7 Jan 2006 5:06pm | ||
| Destroy_The_Flesh User Info... |  and yeah its right next to the benefits sheets ( it says oooooooo in my cereal) - Sat, 7 Jan 2006 9:11pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | How did my comment about a poisonous gas turn into something about Walmart employees benefits?! - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 12:07am | ||
| Tragedy User Info... | How does using the cold and merciless hate of NS as a weapon against your enemies to be an effective soldier have anything to do with living with your parents in ladysmith? - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 9:52am | ||
| jay brown User Info... | Come on Tragedy you've been to Ladysmith it is in fact the big jewish stronghold in North america.... New York was too crowded, it's where they hide all the surplus diamonds and dradles........ I mean really it's time to take a stand in Ladysmith. If we dont do it now soon there will be tons of money and steady employment and a surplus of funny candle holders and then where will we be huh? - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 12:17pm | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | wow this thread really spiraled out of control . . in a hilarious, hilarious way. - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 1:11pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | "How does using the cold and merciless hate of NS as a weapon against your enemies to be an effective soldier have anything to do with living with your parents in ladysmith?" Do you know how to read? Or are you blind?! I dont live in fucking Ladysmith. - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 1:21pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | "wow this thread really spiraled out of control . . in a hilarious, hilarious way" Agreed, I should never have said anything, I should have known better than to have entered the cave of the indefatigable flamer leaches. It seems like I'm doomed forever now... - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 1:29pm | ||
| Tragedy User Info... | OK...How does using the cold and merciless hate of NS as a weapon against your enemies to be an effective soldier have anything to do with living with your parents in Cedar? - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 1:37pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | That is still a really stupid comment, it's not like living with my father and stepmother is the only thing I fucking do, I dont sit around here all day hating them as cold and as mercilessly as possible, lol. No, my life does not revolve around living with my father and stepmother in Cedar and my interests also have nothing to do with them or Cedar. - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 1:48pm | ||
| Tragedy User Info... | My point is if you're going to be a total poser, at least find yourself a half decent sub culture you can relate to and leech from in this day and age, for fuck sakes, you live in CANADUH...and yeah, I get that you're German, big deal. My ancestors were vikings but you don't see me raping and pillaging. Not lately anyways... - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 1:52pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | Um, I'm not German?! lol, fuck woman!!! - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 2:06pm | ||
| Tragedy User Info... | Ok Polish. Who fucking cares. I made my point. I also think that ignorant nazi fucks should be lined up against a wall and shot. Then pissed on. Eye for an eye. And I don't fucking care if my saying so isn't pc, or who it pisses off. Fuck you. But not you, cuz you're just some stupid kid. - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 2:11pm | ||
| jay brown User Info... | Oh Tragedy I betcha almost everyone in Poland cares... I am willing to bet there arent many nazi sympathizers there. - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 5:51pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | Rob Drakhen from Graveland is from Poland. Biiiiiiig nazi sypmathizer. - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 7:31pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | Yes, there are alot of Polish Neo Nazis. - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 7:32pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | And Tragedy, you didn't make ANY point, except that you dont know anything about me! - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 7:34pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | Do you know whats good?! And I mean REALLY good!!! MATZO BALL SOUP!!! - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 8:02pm | ||
| jackass User Info... | So is hummus. - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 8:53pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | Yeah man. - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 8:57pm | ||
| Destroy_The_Flesh User Info... |  Manowar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:14pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | Do I know you? It's so fucking easy to talk shit about someone you've never even met, isn't it?! Say it to my face or shut the fuck up. - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:41pm | ||
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| ANIMUS User Info... | ? - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:53pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | That picture is awesome. - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:58pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | HEY!! YOU'RE GODDESS!!! aren't you?! - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:59pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | SPEAK, WOMAN!!! - Sun, 8 Jan 2006 11:03pm | ||
| Akylore User Info... | Man, actually. He's Dave (the guy on the far right,) he's the ex-guitarist for Pariah/guitarist for Hoarde of Anachron. Hahaha, he's just busting your balls and joking around dude. But any Manowar comment is hailed by my standards! "Agreed, I should never have said anything, I should have known better than to have entered the cave of the indefatigable flamer leaches. It seems like I'm doomed forever now..." Haha, I still remember when I first moved to this fucking city over 10 years ago...I went to this all-ages show, and I remember the whole time there I was like, "Why are all these 15-year-old white kids wearing Malcolm X t-shirts?!" That was my introduction to the "straight-edge" scene. Also my introduction to the anti-anything-offensive-to-the-"PC punk"-scene. Quite different compared to the mill-town mentality you'd run into in Nanaimo (or my home town Smithers for that matter, haha) Fuck you may as well just walk into NOW (National Organization for Women) headquarters and demand a blowjob after being fixed a fine meal....I've been listening to too much George Carlin :P - Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:29am | ||
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| ANIMUS User Info... | Oh sorry, for some reason I thought you were that woman, I think you used one of the same pics as her.. lol. - Mon, 9 Jan 2006 7:06am | ||
| The Other Nick User Info... | Got one for you Animus,(and all others preaching similar things), "In case you didn't know I am Polish and Poland was betrayed by the Allies" .......... and that this worse than invasion??? Germany INVADED Poland. If you are taking National Socialistic sides to WWII, why aren''t you pissed off at germans for invading Poland?? also, attempting to justify obsession with german-WWII imagery because you are polish does not make any sense. Your only argument so far was that the allies were hated by both germany and poland. There is nothing illogical about being attracted to violent, powerful imagery simply because its is violent and powerful etc. also, was the culture of poland not threatend by germany in their plans for after the war? I am pretty sure polish and german cultures vary slightly and are not part of some "aryan" culture, therefor an example of polish culture (i should imagine you include polish culture into your "white aryan culture") being under attack is precisely WWII by the germans. I really wish someone would point out a living example of "aryan white culture" to me, because until they do, i cannot understand how anyone preaching National Socialism can side with another country/people. as for this "attack" that requires NS as a weapon of defense: !!this is canada, a multicultural country. no culture is under "attack" here!!!.....(well, not true, native-american culture is still on the decline i think...loss of languages etc..) also....good luck finding a drummer \m/ - Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:52am | ||
| you fucking hillbilly User Info... | There's probably a number of explanations why Amidud is such an ignorant dumbfuck. First, he comes from Cedar, which means when he's not screwing his cousin or sister behind the mobile home, he's out in the fields sucking off the horses. - Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:34pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | "User Info... Got one for you Animus,(and all others preaching similar things), "In case you didn't know I am Polish and Poland was betrayed by the Allies" .......... and that this worse than invasion??? Germany INVADED Poland. If you are taking National Socialistic sides to WWII, why aren''t you pissed off at germans for invading Poland?? also, attempting to justify obsession with german-WWII imagery because you are polish does not make any sense. Your only argument so far was that the allies were hated by both germany and poland. There is nothing illogical about being attracted to violent, powerful imagery simply because its is violent and powerful etc. also, was the culture of poland not threatend by germany in their plans for after the war? I am pretty sure polish and german cultures vary slightly and are not part of some "aryan" culture, therefor an example of polish culture (i should imagine you include polish culture into your "white aryan culture") being under attack is precisely WWII by the germans. I really wish someone would point out a living example of "aryan white culture" to me, because until they do, i cannot understand how anyone preaching National Socialism can side with another country/people. as for this "attack" that requires NS as a weapon of defense: !!this is canada, a multicultural country. no culture is under "attack" here!!!.....(well, not true, native-american culture is still on the decline i think...loss of languages etc..) also....good luck finding a drummer" During the invasion of Poland (Fall Weiss), the Polish may have been at a major disadvantage BUT the Germans invaded, fought, paid in blood and achieved victory, and they did it with honour. Polands so called "Allies" however, stabbed the Polish in the back. I will honour the Germans for their hard fought and well earned victory over Poland, but I will not honour those "Allies" for betraying us, treachery disgusts me. More to come when I get home from work, now back to my stupid cubicle... lol... - Tue, 10 Jan 2006 1:22pm | ||
| Tragedy User Info... | "I will honour the Germans for their hard fought and well earned victory over Poland, but I will not honour those "Allies" for betraying us, treachery disgusts me." Hey Animus, have you READ Mein Kampf? Hitler thought of the Polish people as inferior, only good as slaves or corpses. The whole thing started because the SS took twelve polish prisoners, poisoned them, shot them, and then dressed them in Polish military uniforms to make it look like they were under attack so they could retaliate. After a week of heavy fire from German Battleships (Fall Weiss) Poland was pretty fucked up and there wasn't much left for the allies to save. But they fought anyway. The ONLY reason that some of the Polish people remaining alive fought alongside the Germans is because they were given an ultimatum, surrender and fight with us, or face bombardment. The nazis killed over 6 million Polish and only HALF of them were Jews. And they didn't stop killing until there weren't enough people left from poland to feed Germany's slave labour requirements. So by the time the allies kicked Germany's ass, Poland was pretty much destroyed anyways. It was the Germans, not the allies, that fucked Poland. There's your fucking heroes. - Tue, 10 Jan 2006 2:35pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | I dont really care about what the Germans did, it still sickens me that my grandparents ended up in RUSSIAN slave labour camps, and alongside Germans!!! And most of your facts aren't straight. Germany invaded Poland to create living space for true Aryans of Germanic decent, and the whole inferior race thing was just propaganda, it was simply fuel to feed the war machine. Fall Weiss means "Plan White", it is the codename for the German Blitzkrieg against Poland. And Poles NEVER fought in the Wehrmacht let alone the SS, wouldn't it have broken the morale of the German troops to be forced to fight alongside the supposed subhuman racial trash that was their enemy?! No idiot would let that shit fly!! lol!! And the Polish were fucked by the Allies in the end, they had to wait until 1991 to rebuild their country and economy, thats 46 years of Soviet opression... Anyways, I am not only obsessed with Nazi Germany because I hate jews or some stupid shit, my family has a strong military history and I grew up with it around me 24/7, war is just a part of me and nobody did it better than Nazi Germany, it's just in my heart. - Tue, 10 Jan 2006 3:38pm | ||
| J. Peatman User Info... | ...war is just a part of me and nobody did it better than Nazi Germany, it's just in my heart. Actually, the Allies ended up being better at war than Nazi Germany, like I pointed out before. I am not even going to go into your whole "Allies stabbed Poland in the back, boohoo, we loved the Germans eventhough they occupied and exploited my country" tirade because it is very generalizing and partial, apart from it making you look rather dumb. You happen to live in one of the countries that made up the Allied Forces which supposedly stabbed your beloved Poland in the back, and I wonder if you will ever decide to put your money where your mouth is and move away to the country of your ancestry, or Germany for that matter. Too bad about your grandparents ending up in a Soviet labor camp. But would they have been happier ending up suffering in a Nazi labor camp near the end of the war trying to keep the creaky Wehrmacht machine (oh sorry, I meant the Liberators of Aryan Peoples in the East) running? I could tell you stories about what hardships and seperation my grandparents and parents endured under Nazi-German occupation, but I don't hate the German nation for it, nor do I think that the Allies stabbed my country in the back because they didn't start liberating Europe until almost 5 years of Nazi dictatorship over Europe had gone by. Another reason why I'm not going into it is because you told me that I dont know fuck all which is ironic given the fact that you clearly have no clue what National Socialism stands for, as can be easily made up from you saying I only use NS as a weapon against my enemys, it makes me stronger in my resolve because to be an effective soldier you must be cold and mercliess and NS is cold and merciless hate, this is the most effective weapon of war when your goal is to totally annihilate your enemy, My advice is: Get an encyclopedia, a couple of books on the history of Europe in the 19th and 20th centuries, look up what National Socialism means, what its goals and standpoints are and who the people are that the system was constructed for to begin with. And quit reading/copying tedious and repetitive interviews with image-obsessed black metal musicians who are appealing to a small and stuck-up crowd that has lost all of its credibility over the years. - Tue, 10 Jan 2006 4:43pm | ||
| jay brown User Info... | o.k. I was having fun with you earlier poking fun at the aryan stuff, but lets think about this for a minute here. For one, saying the germans did war better than anyone is just plain silly, if they did we would all be wearing swastikas and instead of cub scouts we would of all been hitler youth. What the germans did do very well was start two very big fights and get their asses handed back to them both times. as for the poles being betrayed by the allies, sure, so what. I mean really, so what. If the allies hadnt of come along in the first place the poles would of all ended up dead by german hands sooner rather than later. Sure it's a shitty deal I wont argue that point at all, but hey open up your eyes at least there is still a country called poland. As for you, as everyone else has been so kind as to point out you live in one of the countries that wiped the germans all over the floor. Look around you we canadians do war better than your beloved germans, were just not stupid enough to start them, we just kick the shit out of the idiots that do. - Tue, 10 Jan 2006 5:00pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | Lets look at the battle on the Eastern Front (where the highest number of deaths was generated during the war) where the Germans were totally outnumbered by the Soviets (the MOST POWERFUL military force IN THE WORLD) in manpower, weapons and supplies, but they came within 20km of Moscow before being stopped dead in their tracks by the bitter cold and from this turning point slowly pushed back to Germany where the war ended (a result of the extreme shortage of vital supplies). Now lets look at the fact that Soviet military casualties DOUBLED German military casualties, AND WHO GOT THEIR ASSES HANDED TO THEM?! After Germany lost the majority of it's manpower during this campaign it should've been cake for the Allied Expeditionary Force to bring Germany to her knees, but it didn't happen like this and at one point Germany nearly turned the tide of battle back to it's favour with the famous counter-offensive in the Ardennes during the winter of 1944. Judging by these facts and many more I'd say the Germans went as far and farther than anyone could have ever done in their situation, the Germans stood practicaly alone against the greatest and most imposing military force ever assembled against one enemy and they persevered and were nearly triumphant. Asses handed to them?! HAAAAAA!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:WorldWarII-DeathsByAlliance-Piechart.png - Tue, 10 Jan 2006 8:11pm | ||
| ODIN User Info... | Bottom line, Germany LOST. Everyone but the nazis who were brainwashed by hitler knew who the bad guys were. 60 years later and you still can't figure that out? People have posted in outrage over the nazi images you've posted. I'm sure Grimlorn has lost a lot of support as well. All because of Nazi images. Yet you still stand up for Nazi Geramany... I think you need to work on your basic logic skills. - Tue, 10 Jan 2006 9:08pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | I think you need to work on shutting the fuck up. And do I care about anyone's outrage? I dont do what I do to gain anyones acceptance or love, you know. *stuffs Odin in an oven* (no offense to the Jews) - Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:01pm | ||
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| ODIN User Info... | Bwhahahahahahahaha. Oh man you are dumber than you look Animus. - Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:30pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | Yeah cause I just look so dumb and I really am so fucking stupid... Please explain to me exactly why I am so stupid. - Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:47pm | ||
| ODIN User Info... | Oh I don't know maybe that fact that you can't piece it together is a clue. - Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:52pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | I DO NOT hate my country or any country that was part of the Allied forces during WW2, I only dislike the fact that so many people are blind to the fact that Poland got fucked and ignored and it took 46 fucking years for it to realize freedom. I am ARYAN, Poland obviously shares a border with Germany and as a result there has been mixing of Polish and German blood, which is quite evident in my skin colour, blond hair, and blue eyes, I am also Irish and Icelandic so I dont think I need anymore proof of my white European heritage. My individuality rides on my interests and image, and those interests and image are that of the Wehrmacht/Waffen SS, NS, Aryan subculture, and music, movies and books inspired by those things. NSBM is a good example of a sect of Aryan subculture (Ad Hominem, Hate Forest, Graveland, Nokturnal Mortum, Burzum etc...). I do not need an excuse to be interested in the above mentioned things and it is my right to display my interest without being harrased, I didn't come here to attack anyone for being Jewish or some stupid crap, I came here to defend my reputation because some asshole decided to piss on my reputation and spread rumors about me and the band I am in. I have been wronged and I am trying now to straighten things out, and if you just want to keep spouting off hatefull bullshit then shut the fuck up. I want to be friends with you people but you are making that extremely fucking difficult by treating me like a fucking idiot, if you dont cease the shit I'll just fuck off and let it continue unless it follows me onto the street in which case I will just kill someone, this has become a complete waste of my time and is only leading to frustration and anger, I should not have to deal with this. I am being honest and trying to be reasonable in a forum where I have been mocked and insulted without reason, I think I deserve an ounce of fucking respect for doing so. If you all think otherwise then fuck you. - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 2:07am | ||
| Destroy_The_Flesh User Info... | You dug your own hole, with every shut the fuck up (waaaaaa), every veiled threat , not to mention talking about killing and shit, seriously how old are you? You just come off as over sensitive...pass the fuckin kkkleenex, if NS is your secuirity blanket that gives you identity then you aren't going to command much respect.And if you can't handle LiveVictoria what makes you think you can handle real life - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 6:38am | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | Yeah, I cant handle real life so I sit at home all day starting e-fights and lashing out at people I dont know, because this really gives me a feeling of power that I dont have in the real world, here I can say whatever I want and nobody can beat me up like they did at school!. I'm just a confused, frustrated, sniffeling 16 year old from a small town and life seems like such a dead end! I think I'll smoke Weed, do Cocaine, listen to Marilyn Manson and hover around the mall looking sad and pathetic in hope that someone will hear my silent cry for help and notice me!... Yeah thats me alright!!! - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 8:16am | ||
| Tragedy User Info... | ...or you could empower yourself with the long dead and rightfully so beliefs of your facist heroes, laugh maniacally while killing cats with your slingshot in your spare time (...I've come to the conclusion that it's cats, David. Definitley cats. Meybe the occasional amphibian thrown in there just to spice things up...)Cut yourself with the razor blade your mom uses to shave her legs, and study and quote black metal interviews you find on the internet in a desperation that it will score you some scene points and meybe one day soon lead to your deflowering by some 15 year old groupie who'd rather be giving your ex-drummer a blow job. Congratulations, you've found your niche. Every village must have an idiot. It's pretty hard not to hear your cry for help, you little shit. But it sure as hell hasn't earned you an ounce of MY respect. - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 8:55am | ||
| Marshall Zhukov User Info... | I wonder what the Nazi's would have done with a social misfit, who has fantasies about Satan,dragons and wizards, with hair longer than most girls,and, to top it off, wears make-up(*chuckle chuckle*). Gas Chamber? - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:54am | ||
| jackass User Info... | I wanna know what you were expecting when you put up your beliefs and opinions on a web page for everybody to see. - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:06pm | ||
| Jaron Evil User Info... | "I came here to defend my reputation because some asshole decided to piss on my reputation and spread rumors about me and the band I am in." Animus, you and Transgressor dug your own hole. That seems to be obvious to everyone except you two. If you were living in Europe, where NS is more socially acceptable, fine whatever. You're living in BC Canada. You can't call someone a jew on a messageboard or admit to being NS, and not expect a shitload of responses against you. Secondly, you've stated that you use NS as a scare tactic against your enemies because its most effective. Well I don't know what enemies a teenager living in Cedar has, but heres the thing....1000 SS Stormtroopers marching in perfect unison down the street heading for my house scares me. A teenager living in Cedar using NS as a security blanket does NOT scare me. NS is only an "effective weapon" when you have a whole army backing you up, otherwise sooner or later someone is gonna kick your ass...hard. You can threaten to kill people all you want, you'll only end up in a Canadian jail where with that long hair you'll end up some 300 pound black guy's bitch. I now await you're usual response, so go ahead, tell me i should shut the fuck up. We're all waiting for it... - - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 1:39pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | "you'll only end up in a Canadian jail where with that long hair you'll end up some 300 pound black guy's bitch." If I'm not mistaken you just made a racist remark, didn't you?! And being Jewish doesn't make you exempt from liability for making such a remark. - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 2:45pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | Oh and fuck you. - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 2:54pm | ||
| Destroy_The_Flesh User Info... | So when can we expect you to come to Victoria and put on a show? - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 3:12pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | Everyone. Stop posting. Now. - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 4:51pm | ||
| The Other Nick User Info... | awww come on nick....controversy is awesome!!! - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 5:06pm | ||
| The Other Nick User Info... | this is what i got so far: Transgressor uses the word "jew" as an insult when angry (a practice may of this board wish to stop) . It is not due to a hatered of jewish people, but is possibly due to his environment and the powerful connontations attached to the word. Animus is angry at the Allies for not being as forceful as Germany during WWII and thereby has more respect for Germany. He likes nazi imagery because he has been around a lot of war imagery his life and respects the German side more. He also really really loves Aryan culture, which is the same thing as eastern european "black" metal. He is also proud of his Slavic, German, Irish and Icelandic ancestry, which he lumps together and calls "Aryan". A little bit on the term from Wikipedia: "The Indo-Iranians (Aryans) expanded widely into Central Asia from the Ural River in the west to the Tian Shan in the east, taking over the area occupied by the earlier Afanasevo culture, and defined by Transoxiana and the Hindu Kush (mountains) in the south. This region would later become for the most part exclusively Iranian. The term Indo-Iranian includes all speakers of the Indo-Iranian languages, i.e., Indo-Aryans, Iranians and the speakers of the Nuristani languages. The historic term for these cultures is Aryan. Iranian peoples are known in the West as Cimmerians, Scythians, Sarmatians, Alans, and finally Ossets Since ancient times, Persians (Iranians) used the term Aryan to describe their lineage and their language, and this tradition has continued into the present day amongst modern Iranians. In fact the name Iran is a cognate of Aryan and means "Land of the Aryans." - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 5:34pm | ||
| Jaron Evil User Info... | Nice try dipshit. If I was being rascist I would've said "nigger" rather than "black guy". But if this suits you better... You'll end up with some big WHITE guy pounding your ass nightly. happy? Again, you obviously missed the point. - - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 6:07pm | ||
| ODIN User Info... | HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Nick you are getting a beer for that post! - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 6:33pm | ||
| Sati User Info... | Hey other nick dude, thats me thats me! I'm not Iranian though and just refer to the whole thing as my gypsy ancestry, but whatever.. we're nazi-approved and thats all that really matters. phew! Now I'm the envy of you all. So, young Animus, waddya say, when do you wanna hook up?!! Our babies will be pure and we'll slay all those lesser and rule the land. cuz we're better. - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 8:54pm Edited: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 8:57pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | From the same Wikipedia page: "The Aryan race was a term used in the nineteenth century by European racial theorists who believed strongly in the division of humanity into biologically distinct races with differing characteristics. Such writers took the view that the Proto-Indo-Europeans consituted a specific race that had expanded across Europe, Iran and India. This meaning was, and still is, common in theories of racial superiority which were embraced by Nazi Germany. This usage tends to merge the Avestan/Sanskrit meaning of "noble" or "elevated" with the idea of distinctive ancestral ethnicity marked by language distribution. In this interpretation, the Aryan Race is both the highest representative of mankind and the purest descendent of the Proto-Indo-European population. From the 1880s a number of writers had argued that the Proto-Indo-Europeans had been of "Nordic" race. This idea was taken up by the Nazis. According to Alfred Rosenberg's ideology the "Aryan-Nordic" (arisch-nordisch) or "Nordic-Atlantean" (nordisch-atlantisch) race was thus a master race, at the top of a racial hierarchy" The Nazis did have an Indo Legion in the Wehrmacht and also considered The Middle East/Asia to be the Birthplace of the Aryan race, and also the Swastika was knowingly borrowed from Hindu culture. The Nazis considered the two races/cultures linked and were not ashamed. I also should have been more specific earlier and said WHITE Aryan subculture, which can simply mean "the subculture of the white master race", as Aryan is simply a word for nobility and superiority and so can be adopted by any race to describe themselves as the elite race. - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 8:59pm | ||
| ODIN User Info... | Congrats Sati, but just so you know gypsys were on Hitlers shit list too ;) - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 9:02pm | ||
| Sati User Info... | he must've been a bummer at parties then. :( - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 9:08pm Edited: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 9:09pm | ||
| ODIN User Info... | More proof that Nazi ideals are bull shit. And yes Sati, I heard he would throw out the spiked the punch and play his mixed tapes really loud. Because... HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN HE WENT TO ART SCHOOL WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER HE WANTED TO BE A PAINTER HITLER WAS A VEGETARIAN HE WAS ALSO A NON SMOKER HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN HE HIRED GAY AND HANDICAPPED OFFICERS HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT OVERPOPULATION IF HITLER WAS ALIVE TODAY HE'D LISTENED TO THE CURE, THE SMITHS, AND DEPECHE MODE HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 9:45pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | Haha, of course. - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:41pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | I was also using the term Aryan in the Nazi sense, but I wasn't saying I am superior, I was only using it to describe my stereotypicaly "white Aryan" features like blond hair, blue eyes, and obviously white skin, lol. Anyways, I think this stupid debate has finally simmered down?! - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:44pm | ||
| The Other Nick User Info... | yeah, she looks about over...thought points of debate are always doomed to be vague on message boards. anyways... GRIMLORN/HAVOK MILITIA IS LOOKING FOR A DRUMMER - Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:51pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | YES!!! We need some grim motherfucker to relentlessly beat the chaos war drums of unholy Black Metal hell!!! IS THERE NO ONE TO ANSWER OUR CALL?!!! WHAT SAY YOU?!!! - Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:50am | ||
| jackass User Info... | I say "get fucked Nazi" - Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:38pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | Good for you. - Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:40pm | ||
| ODIN User Info... | I say Grimlorn/Animus has lost my respect and support. I do not support NS or Nazisn and I do not support you. - Thu, 12 Jan 2006 4:41pm | ||
| Gman User Info... | The facists in France, Spain, and Italy would be interested in your story about Germany 'going it alone'. Ghengis Khan would like to know more about the Germans' supposed 'most capable war machine'. Race is a myth. Genetically, we are for all intents and purposes exactly identical. FYI, Hitler et al were not genuinely interested in Aryans or the German Ideal. Rather, they were manipulating a large and (apparently) easily cowed 'race' to fulfull their sociopathic urges. That you may believe otherwise is a testament to the success of their propaganda. "And yes, I do cover my bedroom walls in Nazi propaganda." Indeed. - Thu, 12 Jan 2006 4:45pm | ||
| ODIN User Info... | "Please explain to me exactly why I am so stupid" Read the above Animus. - Thu, 12 Jan 2006 5:08pm | ||
| jackass User Info... | a little side track to make you laugh: http://www.strategypage.com/humor/articles/military_jokes_20057151.asp - Thu, 12 Jan 2006 5:44pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | "The facists in France, Spain, and Italy would be interested in your story about Germany 'going it alone'." Italy was next to useless, just take Italy's constant failures in North Africa as an example and the fact that the only thing they were good at was getting their sorry asses saved by the Germans. Anyways I dont want a debate, I just couldn't let that one fly, I am aware though that even the Waffen SS many foreign volunteers that were mainly from France, the Netherlands, Scandinavia, and even many Slavic countrys like the Ukraine, Croatia, Russia etc..., but Germany was still grossly inferior in numbers. I'll shutup now cause I honestly dont want a debate! I just love talking about WW2!!! - Thu, 12 Jan 2006 7:33pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | "Hitler[AoE]: tojo help me! T0J0: wtf u want me to do, im on the other side of the world retard Hitler[AoE]: fine ill clear you a path Stalin: WTF u arsshoel! WE HAD A FoCKIN TRUCE Hitler[AoE]: i changed my mind lol" HAHAHA!!! LOLLOLLOL!!! - Thu, 12 Jan 2006 8:00pm | ||
| Transgressor User Info... | Dude! shut the fuck up! - Thu, 12 Jan 2006 8:11pm | ||
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| Gagg User Info... | I just listened to GRIMLORN It sucks. Big time. How many piece drum kit is that? 2? Fuckin Idiots. Guitars Vocals suck. Complete Shit. HAIL HITLER! - Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:16pm | ||
| DOOMHAMMER User Info... | Lets fight behind 7-11 at midnight - Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:49pm | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | wow there is nothing funny, interesting, nor shocking about this thread anymore. why am I even posting this?!?! - Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:57pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | Fuck me for trying to have an interest in something everyone despises, I guess I'll just stop trying to be an individual if everyone is going to hate me!!! Oh! Wait a minute!! DO I FUCKING CARE?!! - Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:02am | ||
| Jaron Evil User Info... | " I guess I'll just stop trying to be an individual if everyone is going to hate me!!! Oh! Wait a minute!! DO I FUCKING CARE?!!" ------------------------------- Aparantly you DO care, or you wouldn't have replied to so many posts when you have nothing intelligent to say anyway. Secondly I'm sure (s)Hitler would've loved the fact you wanna be an individual...cause both he and the nazis were all about diversity between individuals, individualism and standing out in a crowd, right? uh-huh. - - Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:14am | ||
| Anonymous User Info... | I'm not a fucking Nazi and I dont support everything they did, I never said I am a Nazi, I just have interests in certain aspects of NS. I just wanted to make that clear before my account is deleted which I requested to have done a few minutes ago. - Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:51am | ||
| The Other Nick User Info... | Animus is NOT grimlorn. Animus is a person, Grimlorn is a band with its own agenda. Animus joined grimlorn RECENTLY. All recording grimlorn songs online (i think) were done before he was in the band. (person ragging on their recordings) Grimlorn are not Nazis; They are not christian, do not have a pro-white agenda, and do not write songs praising Hitler or some gay shit. Nowhere is there anything on this thread to suggest they do. It seems this board has chosen their witches in their nazi witch hunt. These arn't the guys people, keep looking, there are real threats out there. No modern nazis would be in an anti-christian metal band with long hair posting on a music message board. please grimlorn guys, correct me if im wrong. - Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:27am | ||
| Jaron Evil User Info... | To quote Transgressor from early in this thread, " why i am even attempting to explain myself to you, is beyond me. also id like to say that pcbm is sheepish and naive." Soooo...if Grimlorn is not NSBM, then are they sheepish and naive? - - Fri, 13 Jan 2006 1:14pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | Wow. - Fri, 13 Jan 2006 4:36pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | what the hell happened to this thread? shit/.... - Fri, 13 Jan 2006 4:40pm | ||
| Transgressor User Info... | thankyou Nick, you are absolutley correct. jaron, what are you getting at? i dont any issue with you, so lay off. i dont come on fucking messageboards to start fights, and whatever is going on right now as per "fight" or whatever has nothing to do with me. as far as Animus is concerned, he is on his own for his beliefs. No, i dont agree with his ideals, but i dont hate him for them either because he is my friend and bandmate. so dont be so fucking stuck up people, everyone has their own beliefs. there is no right or wrong, there is only perspective. everyones lays in a different field of vision. Grimlorn is strictly Black Metal. were not a political party with a ns agenda(pertaining to myself and the dead lakes) nick was correct when he said animus joined Grimlorn not long ago.by that time we were already well established with our views and direction. the rest of the band has never been nor is currently national sociolist. for example, our old drummer that we had from the start (Azrael) is very much Italian. If we were racist or ns or whatever, do you think we would be playing music with someone who is Italian? come on people, really. does that make sense to you? next time dont be so quick to assume. just because one person in a band is one way, doesnt mean the rest are the same way. you could even say that is being prejudice. also a last quick note for animus, STOP FUCKING POSTING! - Fri, 13 Jan 2006 5:07pm | ||
| jay brown User Info... | Um actually Italy was on Germany's side in WW2....... But I get what your saying. - Fri, 13 Jan 2006 6:09pm | ||
| Akylore User Info... | Wow...I know I shouldn't be making another post, but...there's just something I can't get out of my head. Since about 1/2 the posts ago, I've been having rather vivid flashbacks of one of the scenes from Monty Python's "Life of Brian." Particularly the scene near the beginning; the priest (John Cleese) is about to have the peasant in shackles stoned to death for saying "Jehovah." Can somebody tell me why I've been having these vivid flashbacks?! I just don't get it... I also remember how the 'executioners/stoners' were women disguised as men as well in that scene, that movie is so fucking hilarious! Oh, sorry guys, (ahem) Grimlorn's looking for a new drummer! Apply now! - Sat, 14 Jan 2006 1:24pm | ||
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| Mutilashawn User Info... | Good call man!! This seemed like a long time coming . . unfortunately it seems like Animus tarnished the Grimlorn name. Great idea on starting fresh, and the logo is fucking badass!!!! Here's to the future of Havoc. KEEP IN TOUCH WITH US!!! - Sat, 14 Jan 2006 2:30pm | ||
| ODIN User Info... | Havoc has my support and respect, cheers guys. - Sat, 14 Jan 2006 2:34pm | ||
| Doctor Loose User Info... | went to see if you guys had a Myspace yet.. There's 20 bands called 'Havoc' on Myspace and 10 of them are listed under metal. - Sat, 14 Jan 2006 6:03pm | ||
| Anonymous User Info... | not to mention there was already a black metal band called 'havok' - Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:40am | ||
| jay brown User Info... | Wow it's pretty weird reading this post from start to finish, it's like a little soap opera... Days Of Our Black Metal lives.... - Sun, 15 Jan 2006 4:07pm | ||
| ANIMUS User Info... | Well, to keep everyone informed of my sad life,my parents paid for a shrink for me, and it turns out that my hatred of the jews is based on the fact that when I was young, my penis was so small that my peers mistook me for a little girl.The ringleader of the tormentors was jewish.It also came out that my obsession with Hitler is based on the fact that my mother looks alot like him, including the mustache. - Sun, 15 Jan 2006 5:52pm | ||
| Anonymous User Info... | This is too much. Tell me who you are and I will pay you a fucking visit. - Sun, 15 Jan 2006 8:14pm | ||
| Destroy_The_Flesh User Info... |  Coming up next Animus has a twin who wants not to rekindle their brotherness but to FIGHT!?!!?! This is like Springer right?...I mean its got to be fake.Did you just insult yourself then threaten yourself? - Sun, 15 Jan 2006 8:23pm | ||
| ODIN User Info... | fake account dude. when is this stupid thread going to die? - Sun, 15 Jan 2006 9:55pm | ||
| Anonymous User Info... | I'm really insulted, someone I dont even know impersonated me and tried their best to debase me. I hadn't said a thing until that post and I only said something because I couldn't just sit around and take it, I am not taking shots at anyone here, cant this shit just end?! This is fucking shameless. - Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:29pm | ||
| Tragedy User Info... | *sniffle* - Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:05pm | ||
| Joseph Stalin User Info... | Well, if that nazi lovin' bone rack dim witted hesher with the real pretty hair thought this post was goin' away, he's sadly mistaken... Back to the top we go... - Thu, 26 Jan 2006 8:48pm | ||
| Suffuckation User Info... | Eat shit and die you yankee cum sucker. You hate ethnicity and nobody likes you. - Sun, 29 Jan 2006 7:22pm | ||
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