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WELFARE CUT BENEFIT/PROTEST
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| raw_terrorist_bastards User Info... | TO THE INDIVIDUALS WHO MADE THE "PROTEST" FLIER TO EXTEND WELFARE:A big fuck off to all those who exploit the punk movement for their own ends/ego/agenda..for apathy, profit, and violent reaction...we know who you are, your next! IF YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF PART OF THE PUNK MOVEMENT, ITS TIME TO FIND ANOTHER TREND FUCKHEADS YOU MAKE A MOCKERY OF OUR MOVEMENT AND ROB IT OF EVERYTHING WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED. THIS IS NOT A SOCIAL CLUB, AND THIS IS NOT A FUCKING JOKE. BITCHING AND WHINING ABOUT WELFARE DOESNT CHANGE SHIT. IT IS FUCKING HYPOCRITICAL AND COUTERPRODUCTIVE TO USE PUNK/GORRILLA STYLE "ANTI GOVERNMENT" "A//E" PROPAGANDA TECHNIQUES TO SUPPORT A CAUSE THAT CALLS FOR REFORMATION OF A SYSTEM OF MANIPULATION TO KEEP THE POOR IN CHECK...THINK ABOUT IT..ANOTHER FORM OF "SLAVERY"..YOU FUCKING SUPPORT. SHUT THE FUCK UP, AND FIND SOMETHING REAL TO FIGHT FOR. - Thu, 25 Mar 2004 3:33pm | ||
| Nik Olaz User Info... | dude, what? with all those caps it's hard to understand what the fuck you're talking about. - Thu, 25 Mar 2004 4:28pm | ||
| D�d[]Sanger User Info... | Yeah fuck those battered women who just left their abusive husbands with a pair of hungry kids and absolutely nowhere to turn to eh? *Because isint saying fuck welfare basically saying that? - I say fuck those who have no ligitamate reason for being on welfare other than they're too lazy to go look for work, start cracking them whips!* (For point - I can't make sense of this guy's post either) - Fri, 26 Mar 2004 2:18am | ||
| punkruck User Info... | This person is saying that being dependent an the government and hence the 'system' is NOT punk at all and goes against the entire DIY ethic. No saying that single moms shouldn't have resources but using 'punk' as a way to get further dependency on the system is the wrong idea... But when you think about it punk has been completely fucked over anyway, hoochies wearin' stud belts and all the trendoid losers in Vic who think wearin' one is going to make them cool (oh wait..it does...sheesh) and the abundance of shite punk bands out there. Punk isn't supposed to mean CRAP! It does have an ethic that has been lost. - Fri, 26 Mar 2004 5:13pm | ||
| D�d[]Sanger User Info... | Well now you know how mallcore makes us feel, hahaha And wow, youre alot easier to understand than the last guy - Fri, 26 Mar 2004 9:36pm | ||
| Mutilashawn User Info... | oh yeah and GORRILLA should read GUERILLA. Real punk. - Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:01pm | ||
| jay brown User Info... | who's to say what's punk and what isnt? There so many different styles on punk rock and lots of them dont really have anything to do with politics. Lots of punks say fuck society and live off of welfare, but who's to say your right and they're wrong? I'm not on welfare personally, in fact my tax dollars pay for it. But hey I dont see anything wrong with it. Politicians steal a hell of a lot more of my money than they do. Since when did punk rock fit into such a small mold that what you think about it is right, but what they think about it is wrong? I was under the impression it was about thinking for yourself and just saying a big fuck to you everyone else. I dont think there is a problem with people being on welfare at all, I think we lose so much money to the crooks in office that thats the only reason we have no money for welfare. But buying into their shit and passing the buck down to the people at the bottom is really and truly the way of this world huh. YOU MAKE A MOCKERY OF OUR MOVEMENT AND ROB IT OF EVERYTHING WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED. THIS IS NOT A SOCIAL CLUB, AND THIS IS NOT A FUCKING JOKE. Just for future reference, what do you mean by our movement? I've been a punk rocker for over twenty years, I've been to a ton of protests, marched in the marchs, done my share of all the little things to make a statement over the years and I find that whole comment really offensive. It's fucked up comments like that that end up making a mockery out of things.It is in fact a social club actually, of course it is fuck what do you think a gig is? It's a social club with mohawks. As for it being a joke, sure lots of the time punk rock is a total joke, mostly because people like you come along and say idiotic things like that and end up making the rest of us look stupid for being somehow associated with you just because we look sort of alike. - Sat, 27 Mar 2004 1:58am | ||
| raw_terrorist_bastards User Info... | Obviously you have no idea what that was all about... The "protest" flyers calling to "occupy" and "disrupt" to extend welfare..i dont take sides im not pro or anti welfare or work. This was a "punk" type of slogan used to propagate ideas from another 3rd party. the hypocricy is numbing and full of hot air. As far as your involvement in "being punk" for 20 years, that is purely perception.. there is this: punk subculture, i.e.: music, fashion, attitude etc...which is repeadedly ripped off and misused and abused by so many idiots looking to start a new fringe distancing itself further away from it's origional intent.. and counterculture..those who actually do somehing to keep a scene healthy by giving back what they have taken from it.. Spectators, and participants. The world wide movement is vast, i know for a fact cuz ive been out there, and its safe to say that the majority of the sub/counterculture is based on embracing d.i.y. ethics, and an anti-authoritarian manifesto, regardless of personal politics. The argument that "there are no rules" may have applied in 76' but this is fucking 2004. There has been progression, (or lack there of) and it all rides on the individuals involvement. Any fuck can say "im punk, cuz i have a rancid t shirt", or "i have these c.d.s, so that makes me punk".. what a fucking joke...fuck politics....fuck egos, and fuck your arrogance... - Sat, 27 Mar 2004 2:26am | ||
| Danny Silverfish User Info... | Ok then, are you going to take in all the battered women, feed the poor...etc.How are you going to make a difference for the people that need food and shelter now.Youu say fuck the government and fuck this and that.Would you say that to a small family who is currently dependant on that help right now.Would you tell them that they should join you and reject welfare so that they could all live off of true punk together.By the way the whole DIY idea is a load of shit.Its part of the cult of the individual(the american me me me theory), basically Reagonomics.So if you believe that then you are not as punk as you think you are.Favourite slogan of conservitives.....pull youreself up by youre bootstraps and get to it.Sure if everything was black and white.Hey what do you think small tribes do when a member is weak, thats right they pick them up and feed them.I agree the government is corrupt, but some people, mostly voiceless, need help now.So tell us what should be done, because so far you have just posted a bunch of negative comments without anything constructive. - Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:10am | ||
| Danny Silverfish User Info... | In closing, I understand that welfare and basically the way our whole commerce based society is a very controlling and 1984, but people need to eat.Even if a group used "unsanctioned punk tactics" to call attention to a current problem.In your posts you state youre not on either side of the fence.....so you just took serious offense to someone using punk slogans without youre consent? - Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:27am | ||
| jay brown User Info... | o.k. As far as giving back to the scene I'd say I've done much more than my share over the years. I dont even own a Rancid shirt, and I dont think you have any idea of what the "original intent " of punk rock was. As for being out there and seeing the "worldwide movement" yup so have I and I'm willing to bet so have lots of people from here, so what. As for arrogance the level of arrogance just dripping off of you is almost sickening. Maybe it's just me but it seems fairly counterproductive to me to come onto a site where people might actually have some of the same views as you and belittle them and pull that,I'm so right and your so wrong crap. It is very punk rock though, alienating yourself from everyone and looking like an asshole, ggggrrrr, yup thats punk all right. - Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:45am | ||
| raw_terrorist_bastards User Info... | ha ha ha, well put.. However the emphasis, AGIAN is not to tell people how to think, or to simply "react" to people using "punk" slogans against "my" will..give me a fucking break..i myself should mean nothing to you... But once again, the actual issues are completely lost and hidden behind the defensinve posturing... The issue is not welfare...it is personal self-sustainability, and learning to seperarate yourself from the things you claim to despise as a punk..NOT the rest of society.. and f.y.i.-yes i do my part(and have put in my time) on many levels and i activly confront my own hypocricies, and continue to learn and grow in that respect.. As far as the "American" attitude of: "me, me, me" what a fucking joke..American culture is bullshit, and so is Canadian culture..i could say that all Canadians do is bitch, whine and moan about their situation, and never really take the path of most resistance to real problems, but i know that is not always the case. I dont play bullshit mudslinging and scapegoating games like you, that's more "American" than anything else. But i can see why the controversy, this little town probably has seen no real action for a very long time. After all, it is very isolated from the rest of the world. It is reasonable to assume that nobody has anything to follow suit to in this scene, exept what other people tell them to do, or trying to be just like the person whom they aspire to be. There is more to it than getting your politics from an Aus-Rotten record then chanting slogans. As well the idea that punk here is a fucking joke because of the whole drunk jock skateboarder mentality.. - Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:45am | ||
| lunchbox User Info... | "By the way the whole DIY idea is a load of shit.Its part of the cult of the individual(the american me me me theory), basically Reagonomics.So if you believe that then you are not as punk as you think you are" that's got to be the stupidest thing i've heard in a long time. so what's punk? not doing anything, and waiting for someone else to do shit for you? i'm really just blown away by that statement. - Sat, 27 Mar 2004 1:29pm | ||
| Danny Silverfish User Info... | Not to say you should wait and do nothing for yourself, but to expect "EVERYONE" are at the same capacity for being able to live by that motto is ignorant. The point I am trying to make is that yes while some us have opportunities and support some do not and to ignore the ones who need help is selfish, Reagon-like and hypocritical - Sat, 27 Mar 2004 1:48pm | ||
| lunchbox User Info... | you really have no fucking concept of what diy actualy means, do you? - Sat, 27 Mar 2004 2:55pm | ||
| Danny Silverfish User Info... | Man do you even have an opinion or are you just having fun being an elitist,maybe DIY is a punk only term in your world but others may see it used in other and or different context so please enlighten me.I never claimed punk status, anytime you a group with similar ideals you get a lexicon of terminology.Iam taking in gerenal about broad ideas, I could give a fuck about what youre retarded catch phrases mean to you in you isolated secular existance. - Sat, 27 Mar 2004 3:07pm | ||
| Danny Silverfish User Info... | And this is just a quick message to Jay Brown, I read where you were referring to being active in marches etc.I would appreciate it if you could post or email me links or info related with some of the local things you have been invoved with.Iam truly interested...just not sure where to start.Thanks - Sat, 27 Mar 2004 3:12pm | ||
| lunchbox User Info... | i have lots of opinions, and i won't air most of them here. but you did post for everyone to read, that believing in diy is not punk. now you basically say you don't have any connection to punk. DIY is one of the corner stones of the punk movement. it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Sat, 27 Mar 2004 4:28pm | ||
| Danny Silverfish User Info... | So what your saying is that I have no place questioning the original poster you or anyone else in the punk scene if my definitions don't comply with yours, well with that in mind I suppose iam completely invalid and damn me for not spending more of my time learning about the corner stone to a movement I know nothing about.Sounds pretty exclusive where you come from maybe thats why your "cause" isn't as wide spread as you would like it to be. - Sat, 27 Mar 2004 5:38pm | ||
| Danny Silverfish User Info... | Oh and the statement about keeping silent, is that punk? - Sat, 27 Mar 2004 5:43pm | ||
| Tragedy User Info... | The truth of it is, no matter who you are, you won't get far fighting the man with your hand in his pocket. As far as the whole DIY "movement" goes, you don't have to wear a dog collar to take care of yourself. - Sat, 27 Mar 2004 7:58pm | ||
| lunchbox User Info... | danny you moron, what i'm saying is if you know nothing about punk (as you just said), then don't talk about punk. it seems pretty simple to me. as far as the whole 'it is better to remain silent....' thing goes, it is a very old saying, and i think it applies to everyone, even me, and especially you, as you keep proving. - Sun, 28 Mar 2004 1:19am | ||
| Fred the Dragon User Info... | Punk is dead. - Sun, 28 Mar 2004 7:33am | ||
| Danny Silverfish User Info... | I wasn't specifically talking about punk you fucking idiot, I was commenting on the guy who started this post, jesus,I guess I better find out which threads are owned and controlled by punks like you and avoid them right.Politics in gerneral you moron, DIY is not only a punk term its also a right wing term yes you may learn that people have been using similar phrases for years now, but if you could find it in you to get off your high horse you would have known that you elitist prick.You have been nothing but confrontational scince I offended you by not having a clue about punk, I don't care about punk so what.I disagree with the original poster and we seem to have diferent definitions of a term not only used by punks.....so hey you might want to take youre head out of your ass anytime now - Sun, 28 Mar 2004 8:19am | ||
| *GKdc User Info... | "fuck off to all those who exploit the punk movement" "IF YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF PART OF THE PUNK MOVEMENT" Dude. This whole post is about punk. The only person with their head up their ass is you. Seriously. - Sun, 28 Mar 2004 9:13am | ||
| Danny Silverfish User Info... | I thought it was a post started by a punk who was pissed because possibly other punks used punk like slogans to oppose the cuts to welfare.I dont care who wears what colours, I figured there was a bigger issue than being punk, maybe more along the lines of being poor. - Sun, 28 Mar 2004 9:37am | ||
| D�d[]Sanger User Info... | Oi oI oI So anyone wanna explain how someone bitching to remove welfare is exploiting the punk movement??? What did they blast some dead kennedys and flail in a circular fashion screaming down with welfare up with mohawks??? Like seriously, I don't see how an anti-welfare protester can be exploiting the "punk movement" - Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:57pm | ||
| raw_terrorist_bastards User Info... | Anonymity is such a clever thing... Not only does your useless inane banter prove your complete ignorance this topic, but you also continue to prove your severe lack of reading comprehention skills as well.. As far as your ruse and kindergarden attempts to pigeon hole me into some sort of "faction" or group; regardless of your feeble and tactless pathetic approach..I can only point out that you are also severely lacking knowledge about behavioral persuasion of any kind. Remember kids: macho posturing, chest beating, and hiding behind false accusations are not only uncreative and reactionary, but they also make for poor mudslinging tactics. So now that you've painted yourself into a corner and run into a dead end, will you continue to act like a confused, cornered pomeranian yapping and knashing? or will we borrow money from mummy and daddy's visa gold card again to go finish obedience training? Incase you brainfarted again, i was figurativly speaking. I give you a D+ in playground pantshitter girl fighting. - Sun, 28 Mar 2004 1:49pm | ||
| lunchbox User Info... | danny, you're making my head hurt, seriously, just shut the fuck up already. just let it go, you put your foot in your mouth in every post. you could have just excepted the fact that you said something stupid and left it at that. but no, you had to post again and again, trying to redeem yourself, and it's just making you look worse. just fucking let it go. - Sun, 28 Mar 2004 3:58pm | ||
| Danny Silverfish User Info... | At least none of guys resorted to neener neener. Anonymity eh, I think DodsAnger has his telephone number in his profile?An Lunch box honestly have you never thought that we might come from different backgrounds, I make a comment that was misunderstood, the only reason I kept posting was youre attitude was that if I miscommunicated something (2 phrases, 2 different meanings,no big deal), I should shut up, try dialog.I don't pretend to be a know it all, why get into any discussion unless you want to learn something?..fuck it - Sun, 28 Mar 2004 4:39pm | ||
| Brett User Info... | I was at the show where they were handing out those flyers, but who gives a FUCK??? Maybe these guys thought that a bunch of punks would open minded enough and be interested in helping out a cause as good as welfare. Do you realise how fucked some families would be without it?? And how the fuck do you think punks are going to change anything without doing a little advertising? I admire these guys for going out and trying to change something. I miss the days when you would go to a punk show and they would be handing out all sorts of interesting literature. These guys weren't exploiting the punk scene, they were supporting it. The more socially active punks get the better!! - Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:48am | ||
| Gman User Info... | "I thought punk was a guy who took it up the ass." - W S Burroughs PUNK: ?-1977 R.I.P - Mon, 29 Mar 2004 4:41am | ||
| Jesse @ Brandxmedia.ca User Info... | The "Punk Movement" is nothing but a shameless parody of what it once was - and people who believe that to be "Punk" you have to follow the exact same ideological and/or atheist and/or anarchist and/or self righteous set of guidelines is horrible at best. There are some redeeming qualities to the punk movement that go beyond fashion and music. The DIY ethic was revived during the early punk movement.- hence not to say that they invented it, but only brought it back from earlier sub-cultures such as the Beats, the situationist, and various other groups and movements. As far as the whole thing regarding Welfare cut handbills and Punk �beliefs�, That is your belief, certainly not mine. Some people may be so abstract as to think that a small part of the �punk movement� was to take control of their own lives and maybe pursue some personal freedom, but now it seems that a self serving group of small minded people have turned it into nothing but rhetorical slogans and catch-phrases. A damn shame. "YOU MAKE A MOCKERY OF OUR MOVEMENT AND ROB IT OF EVERYTHING WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED..." ? What has YOUR Punk Movement accomplished? If you want a uniform � Join the Army, If you want to preach � go to church. - Mon, 29 Mar 2004 3:18pm | ||
| raw_terrorist_bastards User Info... | for your information, fuckhead i started a FNB.. was involved with ARA / copwatch and iv'e done sevice advisory while activley sqautting...no leaders, system or rules... all collectively.. legitimate responses to REAL problems and as far as what you think you know brett, your full of shit and you have no clue.."the beats"? you fucking moron you dont even know your labels of past subcultures for start..The beatnicks had nothing to do with anything..d.i.y. ethic was not started by any one person or movement. if you want to know what really happened in punk history, you shouldnt believe what VH1 or MTV tells you.. - Mon, 29 Mar 2004 5:50pm | ||
| Jam_Aylott User Info... | regarding the subject on welfare.... i feel that what seperates us Canadians from the Americans is the fact that a)we arent as fat as them b)if we are as fat as them, our wives are hotter c)if we are as fat as them, our wives have more facial hair than we do, at least we have a job d)if we are fat, stupid, unloved, unmarried and unemployed at least wellfare is there to save us. wellfare is just part of living in a country that cares. I dont mind shelling out a few dollars a year so that someone doesnt have to die on the streets. people need to quit being so greedy and understand that its better to give if you you can and to accept blessings that you have recieved. that is all. - Mon, 29 Mar 2004 5:51pm | ||
| raw_terrorist_bastards User Info... | and AGAIN i am not against welfare. I am against stupid fucking kids calling themselves punks screaming anarchy and fuck the sytem, then going off to collect welfare because the dont want to put the energy towards any possible alternative, like working under the table without taxes or for "the man" deal fucking drugs or something else, but to those who really need it like familys coming out of transition it is important..not for upper-middle class colledge kids who are complacent with their apathetic existance and dont want to put any effort into struggling - Mon, 29 Mar 2004 6:00pm | ||
| brad User Info... | "I am against stupid fucking kids calling themselves punks screaming anarchy and fuck the sytem" dude...aren't we all...? I've always observed that the "punkest" people ive met never look the part, & aren't into the fashion and the commercialization of the genre'. there are some people here in victoria that are very involved, and have had FNB cooking in thier houses etc. there is so much more too alot of people than you might get at a first glance. for the record..i myself have never proclaimed to be "punk, hardcore,mod,rudeboy, metalhead, hippie, holier than thou...etc" ......feel free to tear my apart...you won't be the only person to think i was a poser. - Mon, 29 Mar 2004 7:58pm | ||
| Jesse @ Brandxmedia.ca User Info... | Actually the Beats, or beatniks did a lot of DIY publishing before Burroughs, Kerouac, kesey or Ginsberg got famous they published their own stuff through the arts collective/publisher/bookstore 'City Lights' books. Same with the Situationist International who self published countless manifestos and books - eventually causing the Paris riots in '68. A lot of early punks took from both the Situationists and the Dadaists social and artistic movements. By the time Punk came to be recognized by the mainstream, it was just kind of a watered down version of the original influences - that was easier to swallow, with less of an intellectual basis. As far as squatting and organizing a few groups goes, that doesn't really change anything when you are simultaneously putting people down and shouting "Fuckhead" every time someone has an opinion that differs from yours. If you want people involved or even care about your movement � wouldn�t it be a bit more practical to start a conversation, and try to educate people � instead of just calling names and being so painfully self righteous? - Mon, 29 Mar 2004 8:38pm | ||
| jay brown User Info... | Now that was good, I think that was probably the most intelligent little blurb on this thread so far, nicely done. Educational, to the point, very in your face, yet not outright rude. The rest of us should be so well spoken........... - Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:14pm | ||
| GOD User Info... | No matter what, LOVE is the answer! - Tue, 30 Mar 2004 8:33am | ||
| Troutbreath User Info... | Perhaps someone can educate me. I'm not entirely clear on the D.I.Y self-sustainability ethic. I have spent time around island hippies squating in root cellars on Cortes Island, watching them trying to weave their own dishcloths. Why even bother? Seems to me that we are all in this together. Even if you're going to cut seven cords of firewood with a hand saw, someone still needed to make that handsaw for you. As for D.I.Y. publishing another name for it is Vanity Press. Some of the stuff the 'Beats' published was just plain self-indulgent. As for the student riots in Paris in '68 why do you think of it as a good thing? The riot was caused by many more influences than some published manifestos. At the time I thought that using violence to protest against the violence of the Vietnam war was kind of ridiculous, still do. - Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:51am | ||
| Son of Mogh User Info... | "I give you a D+ in playground pantshitter girl fighting" -Raw terrorist Bastard. I can't even believe you wrote that. Well yes i can actually. - Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:01pm | ||
| Brand X Jesse User Info... | The funny thing here is that you're saying that someone stole the "punk image" and slogans, because you disagree with them. You sound like an extremist pipe-dreaming anarchist that really can't get over an over-simplified all-or-nothing attitude. Strange considering you're posting on a web site that is run by monetary means (aka capitalism) and you're most likely using a computer using a Windows ME/XP/2000 or Mac operating system that is powered by BC Hydro (capitalist & Government...Hisss) and countless other details that the Ted Kazinskys of the world would scoff at. You�re in the system. We all are like it or not, and I personally don�t think putting everybody down who doesn�t wish to be a DIY punk rock Martha Stewart will change anything. Especially with such conduct. --- Punk Rock, Punk Movement, Oi Oi Oi, and DIY are registered trademarks of Punker-Than-Thou Industries. Such slogans, punk typefaces, and illustrations must meet approval of use by a registered angry teenager with a funny haircut and bullet belt. If the request is not granted � you may face a penalty of inane banter and lame insults. --- - Thu, 1 Apr 2004 1:51pm | ||
| Shaggy User Info... | Excellent response Jesse ;) - Thu, 1 Apr 2004 3:32pm | ||
| el fuckface-o User Info... | owning a computer and posting on an internet message board completely negates someone from being punk. if you want to really be punk, go scribble your thoughts on a wall in an alley and avoid soap and water for an extended period of time. soon you will smell like sewage and your skin will look punk with blotches all over it and no one (except other punks) will want you around then you won't be able to get a job and you will have to diy or welfare it anyway. stating the obvious for the oblivious. that's what i do. - Thu, 1 Apr 2004 4:04pm | ||
| Tragedy User Info... | Well done, son. - Thu, 1 Apr 2004 4:06pm | ||
| Danny Silverfish User Info... | I bet he broke into some rich guys house in Oak Bay and used his computer, all anarchist style.No shit, good point Jesse - Thu, 1 Apr 2004 4:08pm | ||
| Tragedy User Info... | ...And then he pissed on it and set it on fire and spray painted "DIY" on buddy's poodle... - Fri, 2 Apr 2004 7:42am | ||
| Instrument of Karma User Info... | It must drive a person insane to have such a wad of negativity inside, mangled by an inflated ego. Some might think of a person like that as lashing out at the world instead of developing people skills (such as LISTENING to others, rather than trying to assimilate them). Have pity on the poor whiner. Or is that not punk rock enough for you? - Fri, 16 Apr 2004 6:26pm | ||
| V User Info... | holy shit, i really don't understand why being a punk is so fucking important to some people.. i mean how many forms do i have to fill in triplicate to obtain my official punk status? fuck it, i'd rather just be myself. R.T.B. i found most of your posts on this thread rather hard to comprehend. it's not always clear to me what you are trying to say, but it sounds to me like you are coming from a real punker-than-thou altitude.. you are pissed about people exploiting a scene? fashion dies off in time, so don't sweat it. BX Jesse, you sound like a smart motherfucker, indeed. You should start a zine or something. And yea, did anyone get around to answering Dod's question? that's kind of what i was thinking, too. - Sat, 24 Apr 2004 6:02pm | ||
| Brand X Jesse User Info... | "BX Jesse, you sound like a smart motherfucker, indeed. You should start a zine or something." - I did a zine a few years back during my late teens. about 11 issues over a three year period, and ended up having both Natzi skinheads and extremist feminists trying to hunt me down. Luckily now with Brand X the only animosity I get are from bands who get bad reviews on their cds. - Sun, 25 Apr 2004 9:52am | ||
| el fuckface-o User Info... | and people who look for some quality reading but find your website instead. - Sun, 25 Apr 2004 2:56pm | ||
| V User Info... | monday mag, then, fuckface? - Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:17pm | ||
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And God saw that it was good. 13So the evening and the morning were the third day. 14Then God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; 15and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth"; and it was so. 16Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also. 17God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19So the evening and the morning were the fourth day. 20Then God said, "Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens." 21So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22And God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth." 23So the evening and the morning were the fifth day. 24Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, each according to its kind"; and it was so. 25And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 26Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all[2] the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." 27So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth." 29And God said, "See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food. 30Also, to every beast of the earth, to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there is life, I have given every green herb for food"; and it was so. 31Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day. The Garden of Eden 1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made. 4This is the history[1] of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. Life in God's Garden 8 The LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there He put the man whom He had formed. 9And out of the ground the LORD God made every tree grow that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. The tree of life was also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. 10Now a river went out of Eden to water the garden, and from there it parted and became four riverheads. 11The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which skirts the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12And the gold of that land is good. Bdellium and the onyx stone are there. 13The name of the second river is Gihon; it is the one which goes around the whole land of Cush. 14The name of the third river is Hiddekel;[2] it is the one which goes toward the east of Assyria. The fourth river is the Euphrates. 15Then the LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it. 16And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die." 18And the LORD God said, "It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him." 19Out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name. 20So Adam gave names to all cattle, to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper comparable to him. 21And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. 22Then the rib which the LORD God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man. 23And Adam said: "This is now bone of my bones And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because she was taken out of Man." 24Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. 25And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed. The Fall of Man (1) 1 Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, "Has God indeed said, "You shall not eat of every tree of the garden'?" 2And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, "You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die."' 4Then the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die. 5For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." 6So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate. 7Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings. 8And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. 9Then the LORD God called to Adam and said to him, "Where are you?" 10So he said, "I heard Your voice in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; and I hid myself." 11And He said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you that you should not eat?" 12Then the man said, "The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate." 13And the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate." 14So the LORD God said to the serpent: "Because you have done this, You are cursed more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you shall go, And you shall eat dust All the days of your life. 15And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel." 16To the woman He said: "I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception; In pain you shall bring forth children; Your desire shall be for your husband, And he shall rule over you." 17Then to Adam He said, "Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, "You shall not eat of it': "Cursed is the ground for your sake; In toil you shall eat of it All the days of your life. 18Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you, And you shall eat the herb of the field. 19In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread Till you return to the ground, For out of it you were taken; For dust you are, And to dust you shall return." 20And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living. 21Also for Adam and his wife the LORD God made tunics of skin, and clothed them. 22Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"-- 23therefore the LORD God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. 24So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life Cain and Abel (1) 1 Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, "I have acquired a man from the LORD." 2Then she bore again, this time his brother Abel. Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. 3And in the process of time it came to pass that Cain brought an offering of the fruit of the ground to the LORD. 4Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat. And the LORD respected Abel and his offering, 5but He did not respect Cain and his offering. And Cain was very angry, and his countenance fell. 6So the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen? 7If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it." 8Now Cain talked with Abel his brother;[1] and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and killed him. 9Then the LORD said to Cain, "Where is Abel your brother?" He said, "I do not know. Am I my brother's keeper?" 10And He said, "What have you done? The voice of your brother's blood cries out to Me from the ground. 11So now you are cursed from the earth, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand. 12When you till the ground, it shall no longer yield its strength to you. A fugitive and a vagabond you shall be on the earth." 13And Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is greater than I can bear! 14Surely You have driven me out this day from the face of the ground; I shall be hidden from Your face; I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond on the earth, and it will happen that anyone who finds me will kill me." 15And the LORD said to him, "Therefore,[2] whoever kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold." And the LORD set a mark on Cain, lest anyone finding him should kill him. The Family of Cain 16 Then Cain went out from the presence of the LORD and dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden. 17And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son--Enoch. 18To Enoch was born Irad; and Irad begot Mehujael, and Mehujael begot Methushael, and Methushael begot Lamech. 19Then Lamech took for himself two wives: the name of one was Adah, and the name of the second was Zillah. 20And Adah bore Jabal. He was the father of those who dwell in tents and have livestock. 21His brother's name was Jubal. He was the father of all those who play the harp and flute. 22And as for Zillah, she also bore Tubal-Cain, an instructor of every craftsman in bronze and iron. And the sister of Tubal-Cain was Naamah. 23Then Lamech said to his wives: "Adah and Zillah, hear my voice; Wives of Lamech, listen to my speech! For I have killed a man for wounding me, Even a young man for hurting me. 24If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, Then Lamech seventy-sevenfold." A New Son 25 And Adam knew his wife again, and she bore a son and named him Seth, "For God has appointed another seed for me instead of Abel, whom Cain killed." 26And as for Seth, to him also a son was born; and he named him Enosh.[3] Then men began to call on the name of the LORD The Family of Adam (1) 1 This is the book of the genealogy of Adam. In the day that God created man, He made him in the likeness of God. 2He created them male and female, and blessed them and called them Mankind in the day they were created. 3And Adam lived one hundred and thirty years, and begot a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth. 4After he begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundred years; and he had sons and daughters. 5So all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years; and he died. 6Seth lived one hundred and five years, and begot Enosh. 7After he begot Enosh, Seth lived eight hundred and seven years, and had sons and daughters. 8So all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years; and he died. 9Enosh lived ninety years, and begot Cainan.[1] 10After he begot Cainan, Enosh lived eight hundred and fifteen years, and had sons and daughters. 11So all the days of Enosh were nine hundred and five years; and he died. 12Cainan lived seventy years, and begot Mahalalel. 13After he begot Mahalalel, Cainan lived eight hundred and forty years, and had sons and daughters. 14So all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years; and he died. 15Mahalalel lived sixty-five years, and begot Jared. 16After he begot Jared, Mahalalel lived eight hundred and thirty years, and had sons and daughters. 17So all the days of Mahalalel were eight hundred and ninety-five years; and he died. 18Jared lived one hundred and sixty-two years, and begot Enoch. 19After he begot Enoch, Jared lived eight hundred years, and had sons and daughters. 20So all the days of Jared were nine hundred and sixty-two years; and he died. 21Enoch lived sixty-five years, and begot Methuselah. 22After he begot Methuselah, Enoch walked with God three hundred years, and had sons and daughters. 23So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years. 24And Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him. 25Methuselah lived one hundred and eighty-seven years, and begot Lamech. 26After he begot Lamech, Methuselah lived seven hundred and eighty-two years, and had sons and daughters. 27So all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred and sixty-nine years; and he died. 28Lamech lived one hundred and eighty-two years, and had a son. 29And he called his name Noah, saying, "This one will comfort us concerning our work and the toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD has cursed." 30After he begot Noah, Lamech lived five hundred and ninety-five years, and had sons and daughters. 31So all the days of Lamech were seven hundred and seventy-seven years; and he died. 32And Noah was five hundred years old, and Noah begot Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Noah Makes the Ark 1 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3And the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive[1] with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years." 4There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. 5Then the LORD[2] saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7So the LORD said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them." 8But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. Noah Pleases God 9 This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God. 10And Noah begot three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. 11The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12So God looked upon the earth, and indeed it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth. The Ark Prepared (1) 13 And God said to Noah, "The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold, I will destroy them with the earth. 14Make yourself an ark of gopherwood; make rooms in the ark, and cover it inside and outside with pitch. 15And this is how you shall make it: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, its width fifty cubits, and its height thirty cubits. 16You shall make a window for the ark, and you shall finish it to a cubit from above; and set the door of the ark in its side. You shall make it with lower, second, and third decks. 17And behold, I Myself am bringing floodwaters on the earth, to destroy from under heaven all flesh in which is the breath of life; everything that is on the earth shall die. 18But I will establish My covenant with you; and you shall go into the ark--you, your sons, your wife, and your sons' wives with you. 19And of every living thing of all flesh you shall bring two of every sort into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female. 20Of the birds after their kind, of animals after their kind, and of every creeping thing of the earth after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive. 21And you shall take for yourself of all food that is eaten, and you shall gather it to yourself; and it shall be food for you and for them." 22Thus Noah did; according to all that God commanded him, so he did. The Flood (1) 1 Then the LORD said to Noah, "Come into the ark, you and all your household, because I have seen that you are righteous before Me in this generation. 2You shall take with you seven each of every clean animal, a male and his female; two each of animals that are unclean, a male and his female; 3also seven each of birds of the air, male and female, to keep the species alive on the face of all the earth. 4For after seven more days I will cause it to rain on the earth forty days and forty nights, and I will destroy from the face of the earth all living things that I have made." 5And Noah did according to all that the LORD commanded him. 6Noah was six hundred years old when the floodwaters were on the earth. 7So Noah, with his sons, his wife, and his sons' wives, went into the ark because of the waters of the flood. 8Of clean animals, of animals that are unclean, of birds, and of everything that creeps on the earth, 9two by two they went into the ark to Noah, male and female, as God had commanded Noah. 10And it came to pass after seven days that the waters of the flood were on the earth. 11In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. 12And the rain was on the earth forty days and forty nights. 13On the very same day Noah and Noah's sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth, and Noah's wife and the three wives of his sons with them, entered the ark-- 14they and every beast after its kind, all cattle after their kind, every creeping thing that creeps on the earth after its kind, and every bird after its kind, every bird of every sort. 15And they went into the ark to Noah, two by two, of all flesh in which is the breath of life. 16So those that entered, male and female of all flesh, went in as God had commanded him; and the LORD shut him in. 17Now the flood was on the earth forty days. The waters increased and lifted up the ark, and it rose high above the earth. 18The waters prevailed and greatly increased on the earth, and the ark moved about on the surface of the waters. 19And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered. 20The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered. 21And all flesh died that moved on the earth: birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man. 22All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit[1] of life, all that was on the dry land, died. 23So He destroyed all living things which were on the face of the ground: both man and cattle, creeping thing and bird of the air. They were destroyed from the earth. Only Noah and those who were with him in the ark remained alive. 24And the waters prevailed on the earth one hundred and fifty days. The Flood Waters Recede 1 Then God remembered Noah, and every living thing, and all the animals that were with him in the ark. And God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters subsided. 2The fountains of the deep and the windows of heaven were also stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained. 3And the waters receded continually from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters decreased. 4Then the ark rested in the seventh month, the seventeenth day of the month, on the mountains of Ararat. 5And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month. In the tenth month, on the first day of the month, the tops of the mountains were seen. 6So it came to pass, at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made. 7Then he sent out a raven, which kept going to and fro until the waters had dried up from the earth. 8He also sent out from himself a dove, to see if the waters had receded from the face of the ground. 9But the dove found no resting place for the sole of her foot, and she returned into the ark to him, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth. So he put out his hand and took her, and drew her into the ark to himself. 10And he waited yet another seven days, and again he sent the dove out from the ark. 11Then the dove came to him in the evening, and behold, a freshly plucked olive leaf was in her mouth; and Noah knew that the waters had receded from the earth. 12So he waited yet another seven days and sent out the dove, which did not return again to him anymore. 13And it came to pass in the six hundred and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, that the waters were dried up from the earth; and Noah removed the covering of the ark and looked, and indeed the surface of the ground was dry. 14And in the second month, on the twenty-seventh day of the month, the earth was dried. 15Then God spoke to Noah, saying, 16"Go out of the ark, you and your wife, and your sons and your sons' wives with you. 17Bring out with you every living thing of all flesh that is with you: birds and cattle and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, so that they may abound on the earth, and be fruitful and multiply on the earth." 18So Noah went out, and his sons and his wife and his sons' wives with him. 19Every animal, every creeping thing, every bird, and whatever creeps on the earth, according to their families, went out of the ark. God's Covenant with Creation 20 Then Noah built an altar to the LORD, and took of every clean animal and of every clean bird, and offered burnt offerings on the altar. 21And the LORD smelled a soothing aroma. Then the LORD said in His heart, "I will never again curse the ground for man's sake, although the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; nor will I again destroy every living thing as I have done God's Promise to Noah 1 So God blessed Noah and his sons, and said to them: "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth.[1] 2And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be on every beast of the earth, on every bird of the air, on all that move on the earth, and on all the fish of the sea. They are given into your hand. 3Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs. 4But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. 5Surely for your lifeblood I will demand a reckoning; from the hand of every beast I will require it, and from the hand of man. From the hand of every man's brother I will require the life of man. 6"Whoever sheds man's blood, By man his blood shall be shed; For in the image of God He made man. 7And as for you, be fruitful and multiply; Bring forth abundantly in the earth And multiply in it." 8Then God spoke to Noah and to his sons with him, saying: 9"And as for Me, behold, I establish My covenant with you and with your descendants[2] after you, 10and with every living creature that is with you: the birds, the cattle, and every beast of the earth with you, of all that go out of the ark, every beast of the earth. 11Thus I establish My covenant with you: Never again shall all flesh be cut off by the waters of the flood; never again shall there be a flood to destroy the earth." 12And God said: "This is the sign of the covenant which I make between Me and you, and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: 13I set My rainbow in the cloud, and it shall be for the sign of the covenant between Me and the earth. 14It shall be, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the rainbow shall be seen in the cloud; 15and I will remember My covenant which is between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh; the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all flesh. 16The rainbow shall be in the cloud, and I will look on it to remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is on the earth." 17And God said to Noah, "This is the sign of the covenant which I have established between Me and all flesh that is on the earth." Noah and His Sons 18 Now the sons of Noah who went out of the ark were Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And Ham was the father of Canaan. 19These three were the sons of Noah, and from these the whole earth was populated. 20And Noah began to be a farmer, and he planted a vineyard. 21Then he drank of the wine and was drunk, and became uncovered in his tent. 22And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brothers outside. 23But Shem and Japheth took a garment, laid it on both their shoulders, and went backward and covered the nakedness of their father. Their faces were turned away, and they did not see their father's nakedness. 24So Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done to him. 25Then he said: "Cursed be Canaan; A servant of servants He shall be to his brethren." 26And he said: "Blessed be the LORD, The God of Shem, And may Canaan be his servant. 27May God enlarge Japheth, And may he dwell in the tents of Shem; And may Canaan be his servant." 28And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years. 29So all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years; and he died. Nations That Descended from Noah (1) 1 Now this is the genealogy of the sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And sons were born to them after the flood. 2The sons of Japheth were Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras. 3The sons of Gomer were Ashkenaz, Riphath,[1] and Togarmah. 4The sons of Javan were Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.[2] 5From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations. 6The sons of Ham were Cush, Mizraim, Put,[3] and Canaan. 7The sons of Cush were Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah, and Sabtechah; and the sons of Raamah were Sheba and Dedan. 8Cush begot Nimrod; he began to be a mighty one on the earth. 9He was a mighty hunter before the LORD; therefore it is said, "Like Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD." 10And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, Erech, Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. 11From that land he went to Assyria and built Nineveh, Rehoboth Ir, Calah, 12and Resen between Nineveh and Calah (that is the principal city). 13Mizraim begot Ludim, Anamim, Lehabim, Naphtuhim, 14Pathrusim, and Casluhim (from whom came the Philistines and Caphtorim). 15Canaan begot Sidon his firstborn, and Heth; 16the Jebusite, the Amorite, and the Girgashite; 17the Hivite, the Arkite, and the Sinite; 18the Arvadite, the Zemarite, and the Hamathite. Afterward the families of the Canaanites were dispersed. 19And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon as you go toward Gerar, as far as Gaza; then as you go toward Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha. 20These were the sons of Ham, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands and in their nations. 21And children were born also to Shem, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder. 22The sons of Shem were Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram. 23The sons of Aram were Uz, Hul, Gether, and Mash.[4] 24Arphaxad begot Salah,[5] and Salah begot Eber. 25To Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother's name was Joktan. 26Joktan begot Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah, 27Hadoram, Uzal, Diklah, 28Obal,[6] Abimael, Sheba, 29Ophir, Havilah, and Jobab. All these were the sons of Joktan. 30And their dwelling place was from Mesha as you go toward Sephar, the mountain of the east. 31These were the sons of Shem, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands, according to their nations. 32These were the families of the sons of Noah, according to their generations, in their nations; and from these the nations were divided on the earth after the flood.The Creation (1) 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was[1] on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. 3Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. 4And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day. 6Then God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." 7Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. 8And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day. 9Then God said, "Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear"; and it was so. 10And God called the dry land Earth, and the gathering together of the waters He called Seas. And God saw that it was good. 11Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth"; and it was so. 12And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13So the evening and the morning were the third day. 14Then God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; 15and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth"; and it was so. 16Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also. 17God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19So the evening and the morning were the fourth day. 20Then God said, "Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens." 21So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22And God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth." 23So the evening and the morning were the fifth day. 24Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, each according to its kind"; and it was so. 25And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 26Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all[2] the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." 27So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth." 29And God said, "See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food. 30Also, to every beast of the earth, to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there is life, I have given every green herb for food"; and it was so. 31Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day. The Garden of Eden 1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made. 4This is the history[1] of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. Life in God's Garden 8 The LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there He put the man whom He had formed. 9And out of the ground the LORD God made every tree grow that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. The tree of life was also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. 10Now a river went out of Eden to water the garden, and from there it parted and became four riverheads. 11The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which skirts the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12And the gold of that land is good. Bdellium and the onyx stone are there. 13The name of the second river is Gihon; it is the one which goes around the whole land of Cush. 14The name of the third river is Hiddekel;[2] it is the one which goes toward the east of Assyria. The fourth river is the Euphrates. 15Then the LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it. 16And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die." 18And the LORD God said, "It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him." 19Out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name. 20So Adam gave names to all cattle, to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper comparable to him. 21And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. 22Then the rib which the LORD God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man. 23And Adam said: "This is now bone of my bones And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because she was taken out of Man." 24Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. 25And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed. The Fall of Man (1) 1 Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, "Has God indeed said, "You shall not eat of every tree of the garden'?" 2And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, "You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die."' 4Then the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die. 5For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." 6So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate. 7Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings. 8And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. 9Then the LORD God called to Adam and said to him, "Where are you?" 10So he said, "I heard Your voice in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; and I hid myself." 11And He said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you that you should not eat?" 12Then the man said, "The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate." 13And the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate." 14So the LORD God said to the serpent: "Because you have done this, You are cursed more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you shall go, And you shall eat dust All the days of your life. 15And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel." 16To the woman He said: "I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception; In pain you shall bring forth children; Your desire shall be for your husband, And he shall rule over you." 17Then to Adam He said, "Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, "You shall not eat of it': "Cursed is the ground for your sake; In toil you shall eat of it All the days of your life. 18Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you, And you shall eat the herb of the field. 19In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread Till you return to the ground, For out of it you were taken; For dust you are, And to dust you shall return." 20And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living. 21Also for Adam and his wife the LORD God made tunics of skin, and clothed them. 22Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"-- 23therefore the LORD God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. 24So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life Cain and Abel (1) 1 Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, "I have acquired a man from the LORD." 2Then she bore again, this time his brother Abel. Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. 3And in the process of time it came to pass that Cain brought an offering of the fruit of the ground to the LORD. 4Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat. And the LORD respected Abel and his offering, 5but He did not respect Cain and his offering. And Cain was very angry, and his countenance fell. 6So the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen? 7If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it." 8Now Cain talked with Abel his brother;[1] and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and killed him. 9Then the LORD said to Cain, "Where is Abel your brother?" He said, "I do not know. Am I my brother's keeper?" 10And He said, "What have you done? The voice of your brother's blood cries out to Me from the ground. 11So now you are cursed from the earth, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand. 12When you till the ground, it shall no longer yield its strength to you. A fugitive and a vagabond you shall be on the earth." 13And Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is greater than I can bear! 14Surely You have driven me out this day from the face of the ground; I shall be hidden from Your face; I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond on the earth, and it will happen that anyone who finds me will kill me." 15And the LORD said to him, "Therefore,[2] whoever kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold." And the LORD set a mark on Cain, lest anyone finding him should kill him. The Family of Cain 16 Then Cain went out from the presence of the LORD and dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden. 17And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son--Enoch. 18To Enoch was born Irad; and Irad begot Mehujael, and Mehujael begot Methushael, and Methushael begot Lamech. 19Then Lamech took for himself two wives: the name of one was Adah, and the name of the second was Zillah. 20And Adah bore Jabal. He was the father of those who dwell in tents and have livestock. 21His brother's name was Jubal. He was the father of all those who play the harp and flute. 22And as for Zillah, she also bore Tubal-Cain, an instructor of every craftsman in bronze and iron. And the sister of Tubal-Cain was Naamah. 23Then Lamech said to his wives: "Adah and Zillah, hear my voice; Wives of Lamech, listen to my speech! For I have killed a man for wounding me, Even a young man for hurting me. 24If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, Then Lamech seventy-sevenfold." A New Son 25 And Adam knew his wife again, and she bore a son and named him Seth, "For God has appointed another seed for me instead of Abel, whom Cain killed." 26And as for Seth, to him also a son was born; and he named him Enosh.[3] Then men began to call on the name of the LORD The Family of Adam (1) 1 This is the book of the genealogy of Adam. In the day that God created man, He made him in the likeness of God. 2He created them male and female, and blessed them and called them Mankind in the day they were created. 3And Adam lived one hundred and thirty years, and begot a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth. 4After he begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundred years; and he had sons and daughters. 5So all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years; and he died. 6Seth lived one hundred and five years, and begot Enosh. 7After he begot Enosh, Seth lived eight hundred and seven years, and had sons and daughters. 8So all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years; and he died. 9Enosh lived ninety years, and begot Cainan.[1] 10After he begot Cainan, Enosh lived eight hundred and fifteen years, and had sons and daughters. 11So all the days of Enosh were nine hundred and five years; and he died. 12Cainan lived seventy years, and begot Mahalalel. 13After he begot Mahalalel, Cainan lived eight hundred and forty years, and had sons and daughters. 14So all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years; and he died. 15Mahalalel lived sixty-five years, and begot Jared. 16After he begot Jared, Mahalalel lived eight hundred and thirty years, and had sons and daughters. 17So all the days of Mahalalel were eight hundred and ninety-five years; and he died. 18Jared lived one hundred and sixty-two years, and begot Enoch. 19After he begot Enoch, Jared lived eight hundred years, and had sons and daughters. 20So all the days of Jared were nine hundred and sixty-two years; and he died. 21Enoch lived sixty-five years, and begot Methuselah. 22After he begot Methuselah, Enoch walked with God three hundred years, and had sons and daughters. 23So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years. 24And Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him. 25Methuselah lived one hundred and eighty-seven years, and begot Lamech. 26After he begot Lamech, Methuselah lived seven hundred and eighty-two years, and had sons and daughters. 27So all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred and sixty-nine years; and he died. 28Lamech lived one hundred and eighty-two years, and had a son. 29And he called his name Noah, saying, "This one will comfort us concerning our work and the toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD has cursed." 30After he begot Noah, Lamech lived five hundred and ninety-five years, and had sons and daughters. 31So all the days of Lamech were seven hundred and seventy-seven years; and he died. 32And Noah was five hundred years old, and Noah begot Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Noah Makes the Ark 1 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3And the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive[1] with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years." 4There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. 5Then the LORD[2] saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7So the LORD said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them." 8But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. Noah Pleases God 9 This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God. 10And Noah begot three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. 11The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12So God looked upon the earth, and indeed it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth. The Ark Prepared (1) 13 And God said to Noah, "The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold, I will destroy them with the earth. 14Make yourself an ark of gopherwood; make rooms in the ark, and cover it inside and outside with pitch. 15And this is how you shall make it: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, its width fifty cubits, and its height thirty cubits. 16You shall make a window for the ark, and you shall finish it to a cubit from above; and set the door of the ark in its side. You shall make it with lower, second, and third decks. 17And behold, I Myself am bringing floodwaters on the earth, to destroy from under heaven all flesh in which is the breath of life; everything that is on the earth shall die. 18But I will establish My covenant with you; and you shall go into the ark--you, your sons, your wife, and your sons' wives with you. 19And of every living thing of all flesh you shall bring two of every sort into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female. 20Of the birds after their kind, of animals after their kind, and of every creeping thing of the earth after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive. 21And you shall take for yourself of all food that is eaten, and you shall gather it to yourself; and it shall be food for you and for them." 22Thus Noah did; according to all that God commanded him, so he did. The Flood (1) 1 Then the LORD said to Noah, "Come into the ark, you and all your household, because I have seen that you are righteous before Me in this generation. 2You shall take with you seven each of every clean animal, a male and his female; two each of animals that are unclean, a male and his female; 3also seven each of birds of the air, male and female, to keep the species alive on the face of all the earth. 4For after seven more days I will cause it to rain on the earth forty days and forty nights, and I will destroy from the face of the earth all living things that I have made." 5And Noah did according to all that the LORD commanded him. 6Noah was six hundred years old when the floodwaters were on the earth. 7So Noah, with his sons, his wife, and his sons' wives, went into the ark because of the waters of the flood. 8Of clean animals, of animals that are unclean, of birds, and of everything that creeps on the earth, 9two by two they went into the ark to Noah, male and female, as God had commanded Noah. 10And it came to pass after seven days that the waters of the flood were on the earth. 11In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. 12And the rain was on the earth forty days and forty nights. 13On the very same day Noah and Noah's sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth, and Noah's wife and the three wives of his sons with them, entered the ark-- 14they and every beast after its kind, all cattle after their kind, every creeping thing that creeps on the earth after its kind, and every bird after its kind, every bird of every sort. 15And they went into the ark to Noah, two by two, of all flesh in which is the breath of life. 16So those that entered, male and female of all flesh, went in as God had commanded him; and the LORD shut him in. 17Now the flood was on the earth forty days. The waters increased and lifted up the ark, and it rose high above the earth. 18The waters prevailed and greatly increased on the earth, and the ark moved about on the surface of the waters. 19And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered. 20The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered. 21And all flesh died that moved on the earth: birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man. 22All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit[1] of life, all that was on the dry land, died. 23So He destroyed all living things which were on the face of the ground: both man and cattle, creeping thing and bird of the air. They were destroyed from the earth. Only Noah and those who were with him in the ark remained alive. 24And the waters prevailed on the earth one hundred and fifty days. The Flood Waters Recede 1 Then God remembered Noah, and every living thing, and all the animals that were with him in the ark. And God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters subsided. 2The fountains of the deep and the windows of heaven were also stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained. 3And the waters receded continually from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters decreased. 4Then the ark rested in the seventh month, the seventeenth day of the month, on the mountains of Ararat. 5And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month. In the tenth month, on the first day of the month, the tops of the mountains were seen. 6So it came to pass, at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made. 7Then he sent out a raven, which kept going to and fro until the waters had dried up from the earth. 8He also sent out from himself a dove, to see if the waters had receded from the face of the ground. 9But the dove found no resting place for the sole of her foot, and she returned into the ark to him, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth. So he put out his hand and took her, and drew her into the ark to himself. 10And he waited yet another seven days, and again he sent the dove out from the ark. 11Then the dove came to him in the evening, and behold, a freshly plucked olive leaf was in her mouth; and Noah knew that the waters had receded from the earth. 12So he waited yet another seven days and sent out the dove, which did not return again to him anymore. 13And it came to pass in the six hundred and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, that the waters were dried up from the earth; and Noah removed the covering of the ark and looked, and indeed the surface of the ground was dry. 14And in the second month, on the twenty-seventh day of the month, the earth was dried. 15Then God spoke to Noah, saying, 16"Go out of the ark, you and your wife, and your sons and your sons' wives with you. 17Bring out with you every living thing of all flesh that is with you: birds and cattle and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, so that they may abound on the earth, and be fruitful and multiply on the earth." 18So Noah went out, and his sons and his wife and his sons' wives with him. 19Every animal, every creeping thing, every bird, and whatever creeps on the earth, according to their families, went out of the ark. God's Covenant with Creation 20 Then Noah built an altar to the LORD, and took of every clean animal and of every clean bird, and offered burnt offerings on the altar. 21And the LORD smelled a soothing aroma. Then the LORD said in His heart, "I will never again curse the ground for man's sake, although the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; nor will I again destroy every living thing as I have done God's Promise to Noah 1 So God blessed Noah and his sons, and said to them: "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth.[1] 2And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be on every beast of the earth, on every bird of the air, on all that move on the earth, and on all the fish of the sea. They are given into your hand. 3Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs. 4But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. 5Surely for your lifeblood I will demand a reckoning; from the hand of every beast I will require it, and from the hand of man. From the hand of every man's brother I will require the life of man. 6"Whoever sheds man's blood, By man his blood shall be shed; For in the image of God He made man. 7And as for you, be fruitful and multiply; Bring forth abundantly in the earth And multiply in it." 8Then God spoke to Noah and to his sons with him, saying: 9"And as for Me, behold, I establish My covenant with you and with your descendants[2] after you, 10and with every living creature that is with you: the birds, the cattle, and every beast of the earth with you, of all that go out of the ark, every beast of the earth. 11Thus I establish My covenant with you: Never again shall all flesh be cut off by the waters of the flood; never again shall there be a flood to destroy the earth." 12And God said: "This is the sign of the covenant which I make between Me and you, and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: 13I set My rainbow in the cloud, and it shall be for the sign of the covenant between Me and the earth. 14It shall be, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the rainbow shall be seen in the cloud; 15and I will remember My covenant which is between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh; the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all flesh. 16The rainbow shall be in the cloud, and I will look on it to remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is on the earth." 17And God said to Noah, "This is the sign of the covenant which I have established between Me and all flesh that is on the earth." Noah and His Sons 18 Now the sons of Noah who went out of the ark were Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And Ham was the father of Canaan. 19These three were the sons of Noah, and from these the whole earth was populated. 20And Noah began to be a farmer, and he planted a vineyard. 21Then he drank of the wine and was drunk, and became uncovered in his tent. 22And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brothers outside. 23But Shem and Japheth took a garment, laid it on both their shoulders, and went backward and covered the nakedness of their father. Their faces were turned away, and they did not see their father's nakedness. 24So Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done to him. 25Then he said: "Cursed be Canaan; A servant of servants He shall be to his brethren." 26And he said: "Blessed be the LORD, The God of Shem, And may Canaan be his servant. 27May God enlarge Japheth, And may he dwell in the tents of Shem; And may Canaan be his servant." 28And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years. 29So all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years; and he died. Nations That Descended from Noah (1) 1 Now this is the genealogy of the sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And sons were born to them after the flood. 2The sons of Japheth were Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras. 3The sons of Gomer were Ashkenaz, Riphath,[1] and Togarmah. 4The sons of Javan were Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.[2] 5From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations. 6The sons of Ham were Cush, Mizraim, Put,[3] and Canaan. 7The sons of Cush were Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah, and Sabtechah; and the sons of Raamah were Sheba and Dedan. 8Cush begot Nimrod; he began to be a mighty one on the earth. 9He was a mighty hunter before the LORD; therefore it is said, "Like Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD." 10And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, Erech, Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. 11From that land he went to Assyria and built Nineveh, Rehoboth Ir, Calah, 12and Resen between Nineveh and Calah (that is the principal city). 13Mizraim begot Ludim, Anamim, Lehabim, Naphtuhim, 14Pathrusim, and Casluhim (from whom came the Philistines and Caphtorim). 15Canaan begot Sidon his firstborn, and Heth; 16the Jebusite, the Amorite, and the Girgashite; 17the Hivite, the Arkite, and the Sinite; 18the Arvadite, the Zemarite, and the Hamathite. Afterward the families of the Canaanites were dispersed. 19And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon as you go toward Gerar, as far as Gaza; then as you go toward Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha. 20These were the sons of Ham, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands and in their nations. 21And children were born also to Shem, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder. 22The sons of Shem were Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram. 23The sons of Aram were Uz, Hul, Gether, and Mash.[4] 24Arphaxad begot Salah,[5] and Salah begot Eber. 25To Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother's name was Joktan. 26Joktan begot Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah, 27Hadoram, Uzal, Diklah, 28Obal,[6] Abimael, Sheba, 29Ophir, Havilah, and Jobab. All these were the sons of Joktan. 30And their dwelling place was from Mesha as you go toward Sephar, the mountain of the east. 31These were the sons of Shem, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands, according to their nations. 32These were the families of the sons of Noah, according to their generations, in their nations; and from these the nations were divided on the earth after the flood.The Creation (1) 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was[1] on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. 3Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. 4And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day. 6Then God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." 7Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. 8And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day. 9Then God said, "Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear"; and it was so. 10And God called the dry land Earth, and the gathering together of the waters He called Seas. And God saw that it was good. 11Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree - Thu, 13 May 2004 9:49am | ||
| athiest User Info... | NO SHIT! - Sat, 15 May 2004 4:49am | ||
| MP User Info... | Like the British punk wave of 1976 to 1978, American hardcore was an initially tight-knit movement that evolved into an enduring genre. The sound arose in suburban beach communities in Southern California, taking influences from The Ramones, Wire and Sham 69. Bands like The Germs, Middle Class and Fear were among the pioneers of the musical genre. Outside of California, D.O.A (Vancouver) and Bad Brains (Washington, DC) were especially important. A radio show called Rodney on the ROQ played on Los Angeles' KROQ, an influential radio station, helped popularize the sound in California, and a wave of zines led by Flipside brought it around the country. The hardcore scene became associated with violence almost as soon as it was born, especially after the release of the film The Decline of Western Civilization. Skateboarding, slamdancing and stagediving also associated with the scene. - Sat, 15 May 2004 1:31pm | ||
| Troo_Kvlt User Info... | HOLY FUCK I HATE THIS RELIGIOUS PSYCHOBABLE!!! - Sun, 16 May 2004 1:58pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | I'll bet Mr. Religion is Silas, because he's so giggity goddamn religious. - Sun, 16 May 2004 7:04pm | ||
| DIY defender User Info... | If you scroll back before the fucking sermon there was someone who compared the DIY ethic with Regan ideals. That is the most fucked thing I've ever heard! Capitalism and economic liberalization are what the 'system' functions on. Liberals have always held that it's up to the individual to make their way in the world with little government intervention. DIY was created out of like minded people SHARING a common drive to contribute to bands, labels venues etc. NOT working for themselves to profit and take over the other bands, labels etc. as would be the case if this ridiculous comparison. - Mon, 17 May 2004 9:15am | ||
| D�d[]Sanger User Info... | No doug, silas's cpu is ghandi - Mon, 17 May 2004 11:32am | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | Ghandi?!?! You sure? Wouldn't Silas be doin' a "shootin' boogie" on him? - Mon, 17 May 2004 1:19pm | ||
| D�d[]Sanger User Info... | Lol, no it took off with his roomie, and yeah I'm sure hes boogin right down over that one! - Mon, 17 May 2004 2:49pm | ||
| Hell 'n User Info... | whoa something is definetely wrong here. - Wed, 9 Jun 2004 3:23pm | ||
| purtle User Info... | bump - Thu, 10 Jun 2004 3:20am | ||
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