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The Perish - New Album - Can You Hear Us Now ?
| Message Board > Controversy and Quarantine > The Perish - New Album - Can You Hear Us Now ? |
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... |  the new album ~ Can You Hear Us Now ? is finally finished... and was well worth the wait. It Will be available in stores everywhere and online at our site theperish.ca, Itunes, Napster, GarageBand.com, Amazon.com, and well.... all over this spinning rock in space. album info: http://theperish.ca/countdown.htm Rock On Victoria ! and thanks for all the support, from The Perish - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 4:59am | ||
| Zedius User Info... | I'm interested, but I'm having trouble getting the page to load right now. - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 8:31am | ||
| Jl User Info... | yeah the page ain't loadin'... - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 9:09am | ||
| inhalien User Info... | More like countdown to nothing. - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:13am | ||
| Doc User Info... | It looks like the Perish's whole site is down right now. I couldn't get to any of their stuff. ~Keeping the world safe from democracy. Doc - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:13pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | hey sorry everyone.... It seems our lame web server has taken a coffee break.... AGAIN ! I hate vndv servers.... Nothing I can do.. the site should come back in a few hours. We are switching web servers tomorrow because of these issues. Thanks for letting me know. Rock On Victoria. - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 2:21pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | "More Controversial than Chinese Democracy !!" "I'm interested, but I'm having trouble getting the page to load right now." Sounds like Dr. Pepper is behind this. - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 3:29pm | ||
| KRIEG User Info... | Hi Jeff. I have a couple of questions. In the soon-to-be classic track "Your Religion Sucks", are you referring to Judaism or Islam? Also... "The Devil's Lettuce"; Is this a song about illegal drugs, or the green leafy thing that's draped across my Wendy's olde fashioned hamburger? Thanks. Can't hardly wait for the new album. I'm totally DL'n it. - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 4:58pm | ||
| Doc User Info... | Um...I'm not totally sure, but I think that those are all tracks that were all previously posted on the website. Also, I can't get to the mp3 page anymore, entirely possible that this is due to the afore mentioned coincidence. ~Bartender! Two Martinis, and Gordon Campbell size them! Doc - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 5:11pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | hey everyone, our site is fucked up so sorry if you're having problems with it. We're switching servers very soon and these problems won't happen anymore. Yes some of those track titles were on out site before, but only live raw recordings of a few songs. Those live tracks are crap. The studio versions with mulitple guitars and a more layered sound are much better. Also some of those live rehearsal mp3s were while we were writing the songs, and they have matured into better songs now. As for your religion sucks and the Devil's Lettuce.... well... you'll just have to wait and see. But I agree, that lettuce at Wendy's is pretty sad, and only the Devil himself could get any enjoyment out of watching someone eat it. And maybe the guy that works there that spat on your lettuce because he saw you talking to his girlfriend earlier. Actually The Devil's Lettuce is going to be the new 4:20 song for 2009. Hit from the bong, smoke two joints, and reefer man all had their day. Now it's.... The Devil's Lettuce ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D44pyeEvhcQ - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 8:04pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | "The studio versions with mulitple guitars and a more layered sound are much better." So you can't play your material live? Whats the point? - Fri, 12 Dec 2008 1:41pm | ||
| Swingin' Joe User Info... | "Harder hitting than Black Ice." Just shut your whore mouth right now, asshole. - Fri, 12 Dec 2008 8:44pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | hey everyone, thanks for the patience.... we're on a brand new dedicated server now, and we have pre-order sales available right now. http://theperish.ca/coundown.htm ROCK ON VICTORIA !!! - Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:51am | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | what's the point ? to have a top grade sounding album thats what. Go ask Moby what he does with a song in the studio yet has no band at all. He hires guys to try to re-create what he does in the studio live right ? so how is that any different from our songs sounding more layered than the live version ? you're just reaching now. ROCK ON VICTORIA ! and yes samples will be availble tomorrow so don't start freakin' - Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:55am | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | damn it... stupid typo... sorry, http://theperish.ca/countdown.htm - Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:57am | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... |  http://theperish.ca/countdown.htm - Sun, 14 Dec 2008 1:14am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... |  Keep you chin up, Jeff Noyes, and good luck with the whole domination of the universe thing. - Sun, 14 Dec 2008 1:58am | ||
| J. Peatman User Info... | Come on, hire a graphic designer!! Your cd might sound multi layered and top notch, but it's going to be hard to take seriously if it still looks like a 1995 cheap demo. Not to mention your website... - Sun, 14 Dec 2008 1:23pm Edited: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 1:38pm | ||
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| Yesser User Info... | I just pre-ordered mine. Who wants a copy? I wont be able to sell them because that is wrong but i will burn off about 100 copies and chuck em out to yall! - Sun, 14 Dec 2008 7:35pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | I enjoy how "The Perish" is spelled out in that spambot test kinda font. - Sun, 14 Dec 2008 8:52pm | ||
| ricky jak User Info... | Perish.... you never answered the question to Krieg. "Your Religion Sucks" is about??? Sweet Jesus! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye3ecDYxOkg GoD/Alla bless all you pot smoken hippies -ricky JaK - Mon, 15 Dec 2008 6:59am | ||
| Zedius User Info... | Is this a CDR? - Mon, 15 Dec 2008 8:45am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | It's called "YOUR Religion Sucks" figure it out brainiacs. - Wed, 17 Dec 2008 6:39am | ||
| Zedius User Info... | Hey Bruce, is this a CDR? - Wed, 17 Dec 2008 9:14am | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | But what if I don't have a religion? - Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:06pm | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | If you don't have a religion, then you could be free. Religion is used to control the masses and supress free thought. - Thu, 18 Dec 2008 6:10am Edited: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 6:13am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | As for all you whinning, petulant bitches, who complain about everything and do nothing but sit at your computers and slag Jeff and myself...we owe you NOTHING and your petty complaints and lame suggestions are as usless as you are. Yesser (real name and contact info conspicuously absent) wants to rip us off - that's exactly what I'd expect from the kind of lame-asses on this site. The guy probably steals Salvation Army donation kettles at Christmas too. Frickin' crack heads. - Thu, 18 Dec 2008 6:25am Edited: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 6:27am | ||
| Zedius User Info... | Hey Bruce, am I a whining, petulant bitch for asking if it's a CDr? I might want to buy it, but I'm not paying $10 for a CDr in a slim case with an inkjet sleeve. - Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:29am | ||
| Mike S. User Info... |  however, you posted on a public forum where you know that people will be very opinionated.. So in a sense, maybe you do owe them. But alas, not surprisingly (and painfully similar to C/Q resident nutjob DAJ) many of the questions go unanswered. - Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:54am Edited: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:55am | ||
| Jl User Info... | dont know what all the hostility is for... or is it that the self-esteem levels are at an all time low? And what good would it do if "yesser" posted his/her real info? Bruce, are you gunna go 'beat them up'? How fucking lame is that? so much tuff guy talk...zzZZZzzzZZZzzzZZZzzzZZZzzzZZzzzZZZZz. I just dont understand why people cant accept that NOT EVERYONE MAY LIKE THEIR MUSIC/CREATION. Just leave it at that, and at least they know who you are;)(again, for the 100th time as advice for Bruce... ANY PRESS IS GOOD PRESS!) - Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:06am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "Hey Bruce, am I a whining, petulant bitch for asking if it's a CDr?" Nope. If you're asking if we are producing ALL copies at home, no. We are having them duplicated by a professional duplication company. - Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:51pm | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "dont know what all the hostility is for" "i will burn off about 100 copies and chuck em out to yall" Hmmm..perhaps JI should put hundreds of hours into something and then have it stolen by some snivelling coward of a thief. Of course we ALL know JI can't create anything, so he just defends thievery. Wouldn't suprise me if JI and Yesser are one and the same. "Bruce, are you gunna go 'beat them up'?" Somewhat difficult to thrash a cowardly thief who's AFRAID to show his face or leave his name, don't you think? - Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:17pm Edited: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:20pm | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "I just dont understand why people cant accept that NOT EVERYONE MAY LIKE THEIR MUSIC/CREATION." Hey, there's lots of music I don't like. I just don't dedicate myself to bitching and whinning about it like those on livevic, who claim they don't care about the Perish. If they didn't care, they'd spend their time doing something worth while - like feeding starving children. Instead they don't care SO MUCH, that they spend 24/7 on livevic bitching and whinning about petty shit like fonts and artwork; and hiding their thieving cowardly asses behind fake names and photos. - Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:26pm Edited: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:30pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | Waa Waa fucking Waaa. Bruce my name is Steve Ricketts. AND..... Yes they are CDr. They have paid someone else to do it though. But dont worry i have a copy for you if you want one. I prepaid 9.99$. - Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:31pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | "Yesser (real name and contact info conspicuously absent) wants to rip us off -" I aint rippin anyone off. I am not charging one red cent. I will PAY people to take copies from me so EVERYONE can laugh their ass off. Come to think of it..........YOU ARE RIPPIN ME OFF. - Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:36pm Edited: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:37pm | ||
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| Bruce Graham User Info... | "I aint rippin anyone off. I am not charging one red cent. I will PAY people to take copies from me so EVERYONE can laugh their ass off. Come to think of it..........YOU ARE RIPPIN ME OFF." Oh. I didn't realize I was holding a gun to your head and FORCING you to buy a copy Mr. Yesser Assofat. All I can say is YOU ARE A THIEF and you'll get your butt sued for every copy you pass along without paying royalties on. SOCAN will make sure of it. BTW Grimlord, that picture doesn't identify anyone. - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 2:27am Edited: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 2:30am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "i have a copy for you if you want one." That's interesting, we haven't even got a copy and we recorded the album. When you open your mouth to speak Yesser, does the room suddenly smell like horseshit? I bet it does, lol! - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 2:45am | ||
| Zedius User Info... | "If you're asking if we are producing ALL copies at home, no. We are having them duplicated by a professional duplication company." I'm just asking what format they are in. Are they professional CDs, or are they dye based CDrs? CDrs have a tendency to deteriorate, so if it is a CDr you should specify that. - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 9:24am | ||
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| Mike S. User Info... | Ok.. first of all SOCAN arent going around hunting down people bootlegging CD-R's. Thats a given. They dont have anything to do with the artists actual product, just where it gets played, when (or by who if a cover song ) and live shows, radio play, video play etc. Any 'royalties' would be paid to you for product sales by your distributor, label, or your buddy at the store that lets you throw a couple CD's at the counter. and secondly, being an unsigned indy band with no real name for themselves yet, you should be overjoyed that somebody would take the time to burn 100's of your product and distribute them for you free of charge! Yesser, you are free to have at er with my bands demo material and when we get a CD out next year can you PLEASE burn and give away a few hundred? Thatd be great man., we'll make up for the 'loss' by selling more tickets and shirts. Anyhow Perish dudes, best of luck with the new disk, must feel good to get it done! - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:09am | ||
| JDL User Info... | "that they spend 24/7 on livevic bitching and whinning about petty shit like fonts and artwork; and hiding their thieving cowardly asses behind fake names and photos." Well, to be quite honest, you should realise they're doing this to get a rise out of you... which they do EVERY TIME. Its comical to read a grown ass man calling someone out on a message board like you do. Would you feel better if I used my real name instead of my initials? My opinion of you music stands; it's not my bag, but you guys seem to have fun... giv'r. But all this "petty bullshit" shouldn't spark such a rise out of you and your band-mates. It used to bother me when I was 10yrs old, when someone would call me names; but now i just laugh... so should YOU. - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:02am | ||
| Yesser User Info... | "That's interesting, we haven't even got a copy and we recorded the album. When you open your mouth to speak Yesser, does the room suddenly smell like horseshit? I bet it does, lol" Hey Bruce! I pre-ordered a CDr (lowest quality).Check your website. 9.99 pre-order. I used the term.."I have a copy for you" in FUTURE-tense. Ok? Babycakes? Grimlord? Where in the hell did you get a pic of me at? - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:56pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | "and secondly, being an unsigned indy band with no real name for themselves yet" Watch out, Sleeman. Mr. Two-First-Names will come and hunt you down for saying that. - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 2:16pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | 92.7 KDSK New Mexico sound souvenirs -radio DJ Steve Ricketts Tuesday 10am - 2pm Daily on selected weeks. - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 3:48pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... |  seriously..... sometime when I check back here after being away for a bit, I have trouble trying to catch up and figure out what the hell everyone's talking about. Well, this time... I'm totally lost. I have no idea what anyone is talking about. So, I won't comment on anything exept the album. Tonight is the release. Sorry the samples didn't get up sooner, but we had a split pipe at the studio and a real frickin' mess to deal with. Fortunately no equipment was damaged, just walls and floors. For our special friends here on live vic, I am going to do something special for Christmas. I will be posting several links soon to FREE downloads of some of our new songs of the album for you to download, enjoy, critisize, mock, rock out to... what ever floats your boat. The links will only work once each, so it will be first come first serve. I will post serveral of each song so if you're logged in here in the next 12 hours, you'll probably get one. It will likely be just after midnight. They will be full songs, highest mp3 quality possible. Merry Christmas live victoria ! Rock ON ! http://theperish.ca http://theperish.ca/mp3shop *********************************************************** - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 7:42pm | ||
| KRIEG User Info... | Hi Jeff. You can start right here. Question 1- Is this album, aside from being a stellar piece of rock music perfection, a professionally pressed CD, or a CD-R? Question 2- Will you be playing a CD-R release show? If so, when and where? Thanks. Rock on. - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 8:00pm | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "Its comical to read a grown ass man calling someone out on a message board like you do." I don't see the post where I called anyone out, dummy. - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:50pm | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "Is this album, aside from being a stellar piece of rock music perfection, a professionally pressed CD, or a CD-R?" "We are having them duplicated by a professional duplication company." - I think that is very clear. No? "I pre-ordered a CDr (lowest quality)." - Sorry, we aren't doing lowest quality. Guess you'll have to suffer. - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:56pm | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "When you sue Yesser for passing along copies without paying royalties, make sure you call this guy first." Yeahno. On the other hand, perhaps some PIRACY laws are about to be transgressed. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:00am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "Yesser, you are free to have at er with my bands demo material and when we get a CD out next year can you PLEASE burn and give away a few hundred?" There you go Yesser Assofat. Someone who WANTS you to steal from them. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:02am | ||
| Doc User Info... | I don't usually go in for calling people down, but are you totally retarded Bruce??? Like Mike S said, you have someone willing to produce and distribute your material at no cost to you. While that does mean less sales for you, it does mean a greater chance of your music reaching people who otherwise wouldn't have bought it because A. they don't care, B. they've never heard of your band, C. they don't know the CD exists. You are thumbing your nose at FREE ADVERTISING! What the hell is the matter with you??? ~Keeping the world safe from democracy. Doc - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:32am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "you have someone willing to produce and distribute your material at no cost" Hmmm...It did cost me hundreds of hours of time, so $9.99 divided by say 250 hrs is $0.04 per hour I get, so Yesser can steal from me. Perhaps DOC would like to explain why Yesser should be allowed to take food out of my kid's mouth, while he "protects" us all from Democracy. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:41am Edited: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:42am | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | Hey.... It's Christmas... can't we all jut get along for once ? You just missed the CD release party and stuff... It was today. It was on the Zone, sorry you missed it. Great Party, Good fun. I'm just heading back to the studio now to get those links up... Might be a little later than 1:00 sorry. Gotta drive there and the roads are ice. Rock On Victoria ! - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:45am | ||
| KRIEG User Info... | Jeff, please answer my inquiries. I don't care for the negative tone that Bruce Graham is displaying. Thanks and rock on. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 1:10am | ||
| grimlord User Info... | You guys are going to be big ,and sell lots of cd's .Not only will you put all the food your kids can eat in there mouths ,you will put them through collage as well. Give me a brake.jeff, you've done lots of shows since you where like 18 right? so you are like 30 something and you still be leave you can call your self an alien and put some music together for a stage show you would like people to see, and it will be an outrageous success .My question is this.Did you think of the tunes first,or the concept(of THE PERISH)? - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 1:12am Edited: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 1:16am | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | Hey, at the studio... have a little work to do to get this all up for u'z... Hey " Mr. Hell" friend of your was in the music store today buying CDs. Told me you're a Internet Tech. , that explains why all the harpin' about my website : ( I'm just a musician dude... I think for a musician I do pretty good and have fun making my own websites. I get lots of emails from people saying how cool our website is because it's so different. And this new Online store and the digital download center are pretty slick now I think you'll find. My skills at PHP and patching together fun little scripts is getting better don't ya think ? KRIEG - I did answer you dude.. read my last post. as for the CD-R thing... I though you were joking man... trying to just slag near Christmas. yea... I'm going to dup off few hundred CD-Rs out of my laptop and hope they all work for everyone I send them to. UMMMM no. I've worked too hard for all this. Professional CD pressing, 4 page booklet, nice graphics and photos, all the lyrics... the full deal. I hate boring shit. ( hence the website ) I know when I buy an actual CD I really look forward to all the little stuff inside the booklet. No booklet ? not cool. Makes me feel like... hey.. I bought their album , but the cheaped out. NOT COOL. as for Bruce there... we've all been up for like 75 hours, and now I believe bruce is at work there till 7:00... and the pipes, and Christmas and this fuckin' weather... it's all been a lot. But hey, we do this cause we love it. Which brings me to the point about this... don't you get it Jeff... why don't you give up ? I NEVER give up. ever. I will take this to my grave dude. I will fight for my goals and dreams till I puke up a lung. That's what it really takes to make it in this biz dude. Hey, Even Zeppelin Didn't take off till their second album. Seriously man, I do this because I love it and it's what I am here to do. As for the Alien thing.. you don't have to believe me. Maybe 2% of poeple do. I don't care. When I tell this stuff to people they think I've lost my mind, or taken a large dose of acid... Think what you will It's a free country. I have managed to drag a few people out to experience what I experience regularly, and their lives are changed in one day. Bam. You wonder why I can take slagging like no other... well, It's the story of my life, and I'm totally used to it. I even have Video tape of some of my first " strange " events when I moved out here to BC. I share that only with very close friends. So, when people who have never met me, and judge me only by a wall of slag infested insults say I'm crazy and I'm making it all up, although they've never seen my vids or met me or gotten to experience what I experience. Dude... if you honestly think we're all alone out here on our tiny little planet, and no one could ever be out there, or be as smart as the human race and get to other planets through space. Hell No. That would be impossible. I didn't choose this. It chose me. Now I'm behind. Gotta go if you want free downloads. oh yea Mr. Hell, you buddy says hi.. I forgot his name though cause I was swamped with frickin' customers while we were talking. I was going to give him a jump start cause he left his lights on, but I was burried in customers and when I got through them all he was gone so I guess one of the store customers gave him a jump. Talked about the ol' meatlocker days. Told him I still have a poster from the Icehouse with Meatlocker 7 on it. damn I hate forgetting names. gotta go, need to finish this and get some sleep. ROCK ON ----> - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 1:59am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "I don't care for the negative tone that Bruce Graham is displaying." My apologies Krieg. You've gotta see it from our side too. There's a half dozen or so, self proclaimed "music industry experts" in here that have been sqwalling and harping on us for 5 YEARS. It gets a bit tidious when all we're trying to do is promote ourselves via LIVE VICTORIA'S MUSIC SCENE website. We don't come here to complain about other bands or slag shows. THEY don't have anything to promote but petty grievences about how we aren't just like every other band. Our website isn't generic enough. Our artwork isn't the SAME as everyone else's. Cookie Monster isn't our vocalist. We don't play at 380bpm. We don't put on a $50,000.00 show at their bar and pay them for the 'privledge'. We're not doing the Royal Theater Show again and again and again. Bitch, bitch, bitch. bitch...that's all these NON-MUSICIANS(and some musicians)do. So if I came across as defencive, I apologize. I hope you do buy a copy of our new album and enjoy listening to it as much as we enjoyed making it. Merry Christmas to ALL, and to ALL a good night. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 3:29am Edited: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 3:30am | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | sorry this is taking longer than I thought it would. they're coming. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 3:31am | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... |  If you're here now it's 5:07 a.m. and it's ready to go. Sorry it took so long. I ran into a snag with the coding for your FREE downloads here on live vic. I kinda feel like Santa Clause here.... Here we go folks.... I am adding a link here. It is for the LICENCE you are agreeing to if you download our music. READ IT. If you download you have agreed to it. http://theperish.ca/mp3shop/index.php?cmd=licence Now... for the tunes... I ran into a little snag with a couple of them so it's not the full set... but don't whine... it's Free. I have to frickin' go to bed. I've pulled yet another all-nighter having to work in the morning... Just to bring the world more Free music. This link will take you to the download page. I decided it would be easier to make the downloads work 2 times each. so I don't have to post them a bunch of times., Here is some of our new album . Free for Live Vic. Read the damn Licence page. it's short. Hope you all enjoy it, and of course there's more to come. If you go to our download store the mp3 samples don't work for this album yet. That was done on purpose so it will make it more fun for who-ever gets these Perish Productions Christmas Presents. They will have what NO ONE else does. At least for this morning. maybe all day too cause I won't be around in the day. *** YOU MUST light up your favorite kind of cigerette if you get one of the downloads for The Devil's Lettuce... *** and All tunes should be played on good speakers NOT a fuckin' laptop with two little pine cones rammed into and sold off as speakers. ok . Here it is. 2 downloads per song folks... if you're an early bird... you get the worm today. Merry Christmas from The Perish ~ Can You Hear Us Now ??????????? http://theperish.ca/mp3shop/index.php?cmd=download&code=75109FE3CA9CEF9711685FA49C55F Merry Christmas Live Victoria. Rock On , -----------> - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 5:26am | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | PS- The samples won't play in the Download center right now, but if want to buy one it will be operating just fine for that. Thanks everyone who bought Pre-Order CDs.. They be ready by tuesday for you hopefully. Christmas makes things tough. and just cause I'm feeling in the Christmas spirit... here a link for two more downloads of each song. again if you download you read and agreed to the licence. Thanks ROCK ON VOCTORIA > - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 5:32am | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | http://theperish.ca/mp3shop/index.php?cmd=download&code=6DD549EFEEBE7B372820CBF02C18D Ta da ! Real Genuine Alien Rock, Backed and partially wriiten by real extraterrestrials. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 5:37am | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... |  http://theperish.ca/mp3shop/index.php?cmd=contact Rock On v"I"ctoria. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 5:44am | ||
| Pierce User Info... | Congrats on a completed project. Not my thing. I deleted it immidiately after download. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 7:58am | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | yea, Merry Christmas to you too dude. There's a chance that two of our good tunes The Devil's Lettuce and She's an animal wern't working due to a script error with the appostraphies.... all fixed now, so here's another crack at them all. http://theperish.ca/mp3shop/index.php?cmd=download&code=6DD549EFEEBE7B372820CBF02C18D Rock On Victoria !!! again if you download you've agreed to the licence. Cheers. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 8:02am Edited: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 8:03am | ||
| Yesser User Info... | Jeff? What's going on? I paid 9.99$ for an advanced copy and now it's free? .....................I have downloaded your tunes and have my burner up and running. I own the rights to enjoy these tunes privately as i paid $$$. I will enjoy burning them to MANY MANY CD-r to enjoy with all my friends in my apartment. ANyone wanna come over for a copy listen? - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 8:35am | ||
| steve User Info... | Thanks for the free downloads. sound good. best of luck in the new year. even outta my shitty computer speakers. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:55am | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | "Hey " Mr. Hell" friend of your was in the music store today buying CDs. Told me you're a Internet Tech. , that explains why all the harpin' about my website" "oh yea Mr. Hell, you buddy says hi.. I forgot his name though cause I was swamped with frickin' customers while we were talking." Well, I'm actually not an "Internet Tech" nor have I ever been. I have had people in conversation hear I was in Meatlocker Seven, then claim to have been at lots of the jams drinking their faces off and have been best buddies with the bassist. They went to school with him for years and hung out all the time. The funny thing is, I've never met these people before and it's obvious they haven't met me. I figure this person was a confused friend of Mike Selman's, or is of the fraudulent type described above. Anyhow, I am glad you are making progress in your quest, Jeff. I hope you dominate the whole world. Just curious, what did your Zone release party consist of and when was it? - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 11:44am | ||
| Doc User Info... | Hey Bruce. First, unless your planning on cutting out your band mates from the proceeds of the CD sales then you're actually looking at $0.013/ hour. Second, if you're trying to feed you kids by selling indie CDs for $9.99 then you are a terrible parent and you should have your children siezed by the ministry, because that is an unralistic and ludicrous goal. Third, democracy is an illusion. You have harped on people in another thread for not being able to navigate a dictionary, try navigating an encyclopedia. Democracy, as envisioned by it's formulators, is far different from any "democratic" system of government in existence today, and frankly, I'm glad because I think that the system that we have now is better, though not perfect. ~Keeping the world safe from democracy (and Bruce Graham). Doc - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 11:49am | ||
| Jl User Info... | "I don't see the post where I called anyone out, dummy" so asking people to post their "real names and identities" isn't calling someone out? I think in this case, you need to open your eyes or at least comprehend what you type. Not only do you sound like an ass; you probably are a big fucking douche. I've been civil, or at least tried to be; about you, your fucking band, and your god awful "band theme". But now, since I have to stoop to your childish level; fuck off you child in a 40 year old's body. Fucking oblivious, you are. Oh and btw, I could care less about what you have to say... you should let jeff take care of the promo, he seems to be a little bit more mature than YOU, DUMMY. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 2:40pm | ||
| Mike S. User Info... | yes its true, Mike S. is an 'internet tech' of sorts. But he has never commented on the quality of anyone's website, because he is confident that his own shit does stink and is generally non-judgemental of other peoples accomplishments. A guy from The Usual Suspects thought I was Mr. Hell too. Met him at a halloween party, he wanted to know why I was such a 'joker' on Livevictoria.. not the word he used. So Ill take this opportunity to say Mr. Hell is NOT ML7-Mike. . - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 2:42pm Edited: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 2:42pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | I've got a good theme for yah wrap all your equipment in tuct tape, everything right down to cables and mike stands,and call yourselves Langford Chrome. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 2:56pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Some people would rather stand back and call people "jokers" from the sidelines and don't have the balls to step in and do it in the pit. Those people aren't in a position to have valid opinions about this forum and are invisible as far as I can tell. ML7-Mike is NOT Mr. Hell. Geo-cities accounts were a joke in the beginning and will always be such. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 3:07pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Besides, I'm not so much a joker as an asshole...but only to some. Gotta love people who get overly concerned about things they have nothing to do with. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 3:15pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | Well baldylocks says here or Rob's not sure yet ahhhhhhhh the dude text door has been playing some house shit all day like cher club mix all day tha same track , FUCK I HATE THAT SHIT.How can any self respecting man like such garbage is beyond me ,It is so easy an epileptic retard could do it. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 4:10pm Edited: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 4:16pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | hey, just home from work with 1 1/2 hrs of sleep last night, I'm having trouble reading all this stuff right now. Mr. Hell.... just saying what the guy said, but I hear what you're saying. I have many a person ranting off how they know me... yet I've never met them. As for the " sounds good, even out of my shitty computer speakers " comment. Thank you Steve. I think that qualifies for the very best comment I've ever heard on here EVER ! Rock on. Means a lot to me. Which one did you hear ? Steve made my day here, so I'm going to throw up another link here for 3 downloads of each song... I don't have them all linked up at the store yet. Had a couple read errors last night and too tired to deal with it right now, so... maybe tomorrow I'll post new links with the missing songs in this link. Here's that licence page again... If you download you have read and agreed to the licence provided to you here. http://theperish.ca/mp3shop/index.php?cmd=licence Enjoy the free tunes. PS - the samples are still off in the digital download center untill tomorrow, so that people can feel like they got something special for christmas from The Perish ROCK ON VICTORIA !! )()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() http://theperish.ca/mp3shop/index.php?cmd=download&code=75109FE3CA9CEF9711685FA49C55F - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 7:42pm | ||
| Doc User Info... | So I listened to all the songs, thanks for the links Jeff, and here is a little constructive criticism and also, hopefully some helpfull hints. First, and I have said this before, you guys REALLY need a new singer/lyricist. I'm not trying to be mean, but Jeff, or whoever is singing, is just bad. The songs are at the extreme top of his range and it shows. The lyrics are not good either. They're not even showing potential, they're just not good. Now, on to the part that I hope are more helpful hints. I would like to begin with an issue I notices in the tracks Wooden Door and Not Real, and that's the mix. The overall sound was good in all of the songs, but I thought that the vocals were too loud in the mix for Wooden Door, and the drums were too loud in Not Real. Nothing major, just something to consider tidying up before doing a second production run on your disc. Overall I thought that it was a good effort. I felt that almost all of the songs, with the exception of Love & a Shotgun, were too short and that there was not enough changes in them. I particularly liked the main riffs in Turpentine, Not Real and Love & a Shotgun. I also enjoyed the little guitar melody/riff between the verses in Devil's Lettuce. I hope that you guys can take these opinions and use them to improve your overall level of performance. The sound quality was genrerally good, as was the mix except in the two songs I indicated previously. Good luck with it. ~Keeping the world safe from democracy. Doc - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 7:45pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | I didn't have to click on any agreement...so a'sellin I will go. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 7:45pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | His lyrics are pre-school and the riffs are simple and mundane. It sucks. Period. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 7:47pm | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | hey thanks Doc. two sets of compliments in one day. sweet. It must be Christmas. I too noticed those things, but I must say they seem to be a result of squashing them down to mp3s... I totally agree on the mix stuff. Sorry you hate my singing. I do get others saying I rock on the Vocals, so I'll just take that as a matter of opinion and it's a free country, ( we can pretend ) The CD audio just plain sounds different... so I guess what I'll end up doing is making a special mix for the mp3s. I just wanted to get them up last night cause I'm a die-hard. I will change those things in the mix. As for Yesser. You're just a fuckin' goof. may we all have link to your music to compare to please ? thank you. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 7:57pm | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | and if you can read english it says if you downloaded one of the songs that you agree to the licence. That means you agreed to it without bothering to read it dumbass. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 8:00pm | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | his riff and lyric are simple and mudane, and he's just a Nobody... Mundane ? simple ? lived under a bridge ? got two words for you dude. Kurt Cobain. His paycheck was doing fine. still waiting for you link there yesser and , how bout a name or email or pic, or anything that proves to us at all that you're not 11 and really pissed off at us because you got grounded for staying up late and listening to The Perish on Live Victoria When it was way past your bedtime ? - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 8:05pm | ||
| steve User Info... | YESSER? apparently you have a desire to promote (what you perceive to be) bad music. The stuff on my myspace site I think you would be quite in disagreement with and I would be more than happy to have to you expose it to as many people as possible. Especially in todays digital market where any exposure is good exposure, even if you don't get paid for it. Jeff and the Perish. kinda audioslaveish?... Id stay away from any kurt cobain nirvana comparisons personally... different energy in my opinion. There minimalist stuctures and roughness was part of the kinda punky aspect that really worked for them.. In the perish i hear a more polished rock sound going on... which i think could use a bit more dynamic songwriting. and maybe 'bigger' vocals. (not that im a big fan of audioslave or chriscornell but thats what i kinda hear) shes an animal was the one that i most liked outta it, devils lettuce and turpentine... for now. keep up the hard work.. http://www.myspace.com/thecloudsbelow - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 8:07pm Edited: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 8:15pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | "still waiting for you link there yesser and , how bout a name or email or pic, or anything that proves to us at all that you're not 11 and really pissed off at us " My age, gender, band status or reason for viewing live victoria has nothing to do with why the perish suck. And of course other people will say you sound good. Those are the same people that wont let a fat person know they are fat. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 8:54pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | Yesser, just come out of the closet already ,we all know your gay .You hide ,but I see .You run from yourself .To be someone ells ,and in so many forms is the cry of a desperate,pathetic person of no use to the human race. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 11:50pm | ||
| J. Peatman User Info... | Once again Jeff, you don't have to be a virtuoso to be able to recognize a lack in someone else's musicianship. I'm sure that you agree that George W. Bush is/was a poor president. Does that mean that you have to be president of the USA or a comparable country to be able to make that claim? Didn't think so. - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:05am | ||
| grimlord User Info... | "Magna Cum Nada" The Bloodhound gang Why try? I'm that guy Holden Caulfield from "Catcher In The Rye" Put away 'cause he wasn't all there Like a jigsaw puzzle you might compare Me to him not a liver but wurst Been much better off as a still birth Big let down unparalleled Like the last episode of "Seinfeld" Or Jack Lemmon in "Glengarry Glen Ross" Pepsi Challenge took it lost Just fizzed out with my wires crossed Buttons pushed but never went off Like Martha I will self-destruct The name's Dunnstock it's not Dumptruck Just cursed as fuck with no such luck My future plans include not much Never gonna be never gonna be never gonna never gonna be Nothin' more than me Never gonna be never gonna be never gonna never gonna be Nothin' more than me Never gonna be never gonna be never gonna never gonna be Nothin' more than me Always gonna be always gonna be always gonna always gonna be Most likely to suck Wanna be a Ghostbuster First black President, owner of "Hustler" Got shot down like Larry Flynt Felt like shit like a bowel movement Have you seen my will to live? Because I seem to have lost it Lovelife? No but Mom thinks I'm handsome Couldn't get off if I held a pimp for ransom Feel like Jimmy Stewart no one sees my Harvey Toxic Shock Syndrome gets more girls than me Like Pee Wee Herman spermin' I can See the future in the palm of my hand Psychic Friends, Network loser Large phone bill in my very near future Dealt nothing and bluffing hard Playing poker with a joker and some Uno cards Never gonna be never gonna be never gonna never gonna be Nothin' more than me Never gonna be never gonna be never gonna never gonna be Nothin' more than me Never gonna be never gonna be never gonna never gonna be Nothin' more than me Always gonna be always gonna be always gonna always gonna be Most likely to suck Most likely to suck Most likely to suck Most likely to suck Most likely to suck Most likely to suck - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:24am Edited: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:32am | ||
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| Yesser User Info... | The only reason that the PERISH want me to say who i am is because they have absolutely no leg to stand on when it comes to music. They can't arugue ANYTHING about tehir (typo for grimlord) music. They know they suck. They said 5 years ago that they have a deal with Sony. They have said they will open for Zepplin. Their drummer is amateur at best. Their guitarist is mediocre and the bassist is non existant. Their lyrics suck as do the riffs. Their lack of sales, their lack of a fanbase, their lack of catchy music and their lack of airplay completely supports my argument. They suck. I am not a musician. I dont play in a band. I am a music fan. WHich makes me qualified to say YOU SUCK PERISH. And Grimlord. You keep busting in on threads, saying how i am useless. Hmmmm. Good one. Waste to the human race? Well,,,,,,Lets see who CONTRIBUTES more shall we? 1. I am not a single loser in his 30's who will never pro-create. I have children, which is my CONTRIBUTION to ensure the survival of the human race. Natural Selection? Learn a bit about it. It means that the WINNERS like me, will procreate and evolve, the losers like you, WONT. 2. I pay more in taxes than you earn, in a year. My taxes pay for your family's welfare cheque. 3. I am a homeowner. You are not. My home owning ensures that i CONTRIBUTE even more through property taxes. My property taxes pay for your services. You pay nothing. You pay a minute (not as in a clock, idiot) amount of societies bills. 4. I volunteer at a Crisis Center. You don't. You volunteer as a drunken loser at Logans. 5. I am educated, you aren't. Where is your intellectual contribution? Huh? If i spoke with any longer words than this, you would never be able to read it. Grade 9 you have? You can't even contribute to a Grade 11 Pep-Rally. Thats all for now........ Thats just 5 things which i know for a fact i contribute more than you. Had you said that i contribute nothing to the loser-esque lifestyle that is yours, i would admit that you were right. Grimlord, when you reach 40 in a couple of years, take a look at yourself. Take a long look, and figure out what benefit exactly, you have achieved through blindingly wasting your time,trying to insult and cast opinions on someone you do not know. You know nothing of me and its hilarious. I know everything of you. Go get your GED or clean your self up a little. What grimlord? You going to say i suck? I know you are a loser, an under achiever, a non-contributer, or as Metallica would say, the God that FAILED.....you know nothing of me. LOL. - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:08am Edited: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:12am | ||
| KRIEG User Info... | ^^^ Epic burn from Hell. Well done! - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:51am | ||
| Mr. Horse User Info... |  As to your miss directed contribution to human society in the above regards to human population i must interject at this point. The human spices has overpopulated this planet. Your statement #1 is generated from an acquisitive need for your self-obsessed nature. #2 As a friend of Grahame i can assure that he makes good money with benefits. Yesser, You speak only in absolutes. Are you an obsessive compulsive. #3 You are repeating yourself from #2. #4 A crisis center volunteer. Hmmm are you compensating for something. Every time you open your mouth here on live victoria you fart. This is not at all familiar with the needs of a volunteer for the needy. And #5. " If i spoke with any longer words" Yah educated... I will now start the guessing process for who you are. You are a female red head in her early 30's and are very unhappy. You are single or soon to be single. Am i close? - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:57am Edited: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:17pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | All i do is reply to Grimlord. So instead of defending Graeme, why not be a really friend and help him. Defending unintellectual comments made by Grimlord only supports that he does in fact, live within a loser-esque community. But no worries Mr. Horse, i understand why you would defend him. Hell he has achieved a hell of a lot more than what you have. Which is sad but true. - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:39pm | ||
| sumyungai User Info... | Hey Jeff et al So I've spent the last fourteen hours or so with your tracks (thanks, btw) and listened to them on various systems (including my car and my own studio) and my first comment has to be that you have issues in your mix environment. Do your product a favour and mix it in a real control room with properly tuned acoustics. There are some serious lumps in the bottom end, and while mastering can clean up some of the bottom end issues, it can't replace what isn't there. The whole thing sounds like it was mastered with a 'smiley face' EQ curve in that the mids (primarily low mids) are almost non- existent. Some low mids would particularily help your vocals 'pop' and sound more full. I also feel that you really need to work on the dynamics of your mixes. A few more fader moves would really work wonders for evening out the flow of the songs. As to the music itself I would have to say it is quite marketable (though not my cup of tea), and if you can pull these songs off I think you'd be a fun band to go see live. There is an eighties metal feel to your songs that still would find an audience today. Oh and Bruce, no offence mate, but you really need to pull your head in. It really is ridiculous how people here on LiveVic have gotten you riled. Your music doesn't suck, so chill and enjoy marketing your product. You've really only just begun the process and you don't want this crap coming back on you five years from now. Just my five cents worth. - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 1:01pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | ni rang wo e xin And I am sure everyone is sick off YOU. My company is sending some off it's multi talented technicians to China in the new year so I am slowly learning Chinese. I have A grate life and loving family,and am so happy I am not you,FUCKFACE I have a lot of friends that come to this site and they are all well respected in the music seen here in vic, so you just basically called them all losers. Anyone have anything to say to this guy who just insulted you?And as for not contributing to society ,I work for the L.E.D. industry making substrate for other mali-billion dollar company's to grow light emitting diodes on.So in fact I am helping the world by contributing to cut world energy consumption down and finding new and better was for us all to live .so WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW NOW? - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 1:17pm Edited: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 2:07pm | ||
| Mr. Horse User Info... | Hay grimlord you forgot about your friends in the recording and film industry that are now all losers according to Yesser. - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 2:07pm Edited: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 2:07pm | ||
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| trevor corey User Info... | Oh gawd. I don't contribute anything to society, and I don't have any kids. I'm such a loser. .................................................baby. - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 2:11pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | Sorry to Jeff and the guys in the perish for getting on this guy in your thread . - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 2:15pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | Thanks everyone for the constructive critisizm. I appreciate it. I too have noticed some of these issues, however... I firmly believe you will be much more satisfied with the Audio Quality of the actual CD over these mp3s. Did you burn them to a CD-R to hear them in your car ? or do you have a stereo in your car that has mp3 upload capabilities ? Either way, they're still squashed mp3s not the real audio. I have heard the mp3s and the real CD back to back on the same systems and they do NOT sound alike. That being said, I will likey make new mixes specifically for mp3s. Oh yea, also some of the things you suggest would require money we don't have. I'm sure if we make it huge, we could then afford to cut our tracks in Abby Road Studios. Which would be sweet. I think they even started out with a crappy 4 track real to real and a four channel mixer didn't they ? so.. thanks everyone, Merry Christmas... I will post more links for FREE downloads soon... just trying to get the missing tracks up first. ROCK ON VICTORIA >?> - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 2:35pm | ||
| sumyungai User Info... | Jeff- Yes the Beatles started out with primitive gear, but they always had amazing sounding rooms to work in. Also, please don't try to excuse the mixes by blaming it on the mp3 transfer. We all know that mp3 is a necessary evil, however a good mix is going to sound good regardless of how badly it is processed post production (ie. radio). Again, I refer to the Beatles, the mixes sound amazing regardless of where you hear them. However a mediocre mix can sound great under certain circumstances, but will reveal flaws when mangled by consumer post processing. (Ever listen to your mixes with Dolby Prologic engaged? It can be soul crushing, however you can guess that a certain percentage of your audience will.) When mixing we always had a single mono 5" full range speaker called an Auratone (Horrortone) that we used to ensure mono compatibility as well as simulating real world listening conditions. If it sounded like crap on the Horrortone we scrapped the mix and started again. Also, your mixes do seem to fail the mono test, phasing is something that you should look into when recording stereo effects. If you own the mix gear (which apparently you do) then there are no constraints on you to achieve great mixes other than the working environment (acoustics) and the talents of the mix engineer. Keep at it. - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 2:57pm Edited: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 3:01pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | "I volunteer at a Crisis Center." So ..... I bet there is a lot of suicides on your watch. For almost 2 years I helped out at the food bank ,helping the needy and hungry . - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 3:45pm | ||
| RobW. User Info... | I think we should vote some people off the island. You know, Survivor kinda deal. Less torches and shirtless old dudes though. Little Live Victoria vote-off thread couldn't hurt anyone. Some sort of playoff format would work after we ironed out the nominees. - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 5:57pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | Vote people off the internet, that's gonna go well . And as the winner , all alone on the internet , what would you do? ...smart ass.... - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 9:15pm Edited: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 9:19pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | ok, well.. being as tired as I was when I uploaded these mp3s, and using a new program I'm not yet familiar with... I just realized that I had the " compress audio " checked when converting to mp3... which ruined the mids. I am going to re-upload tonight, if I can get to the studio. The roads are frickin' bad. So Doc, I've got some pretty got spectrum analizing equipment, and I always listen back at mix time at a perfect 85db so... I'm going to take a listen and compare spectrums with some Guns N' Roses at the same db level. what frequency band do you feel is lacking in the low mids ? - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:28pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | Grimlord. Really. This is enough. You really should place your concentrations on dealing with this significnt learning disability you claim to have. Or was it Dyslexia?. Which ever you have, you shouldn't just collapse to it's pressure, you should at least try and make something of yourself. Please. I understand that there are certain conditions like Dyslexia which may hinder someones intellectual level, but that's no reason to be such a frickin failure who places all energy on bitching and insulting someone YOU DONT EVEN KNOW. HAHA. Like really Graeme........ Arguing on the internet is like being in the special Olympics, no matter what, you are still a retard. And being you, Graeme, one would assume that after personally experiencing both the Internet Arguing and the Special Olympics, you would know better than most how it feels. *****Note: I sincerely apologise for stringing such a long sentence together like the previous. I realise that Graeme has no inkling, absolutely no comprehension of what a comma is. So i could only imagine what it must read back to him like. Try it everyone. Read back my last sentence without any kind of structure, and with a monotonous steady rythm.***** Graeme to help you out in life, and let you concentrate on things, i will no longer reply to any of your nonsense. I have beat you inside and out. I have won Graeme. Ok? Plus, i have no time to read your shit anymore.Playing Pictionary is easier than reading your Grade 3 english. Sorry Graeme. - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:31pm Edited: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:32pm | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | and Yesser, you did not order a CD or buy any rights to anything. I checked the store and went through all 143 buyers of the CD pre-order sale. The only people that actual bought one early without hearing it were people that know us.... I don't see a single name in the list that I don't know. Also, you said you paid. Therefor you would have instantly got an email from our store with expected delivery time for your disc and contact info and all that. So, you would know that the discs aren't pressed yet and that it was a PRE order sale meaning NO ONE has a disc yet off the press, not even us. our online store would have given you specific instructions how to use the contact page in the store to ask any questions about your purchase or about the CD. Why you're flappin' your head on here without sending the mp3 store an email with any questions, confirms my belief that you did not order a CD at all, and you're just another fuckin' asshole were stuck with on this planet. You're obviously trying to make it seem like we rip people off or we don't deliver. You can rest assured that anyone who buys a CD or DVD or MP3 or anything from us, will get it on time, and we'll guarantee customer satisfaction. Anyone that know's me know's I come through. So grow up, and if you really are as young and immature as you sound here... Then ask Santa for a life this year. - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:43pm | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | oh, and if you're going to spout off here that you didn't get your disc yet, and keep typing "WHERE's my disc ??? where's MY disc ?? I bought rights to make CD-Rs with my friends ! " and not contact the digital download center.. then how bout giving me your real name on here as well so I can check the store and paypal for your purchase ? - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:48pm | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | ops sorry, this question was actually for sumyungai, "Sumyungai, I've got some pretty got spectrum analizing equipment, and I always listen back at mix time at a perfect 85db so... I'm going to take a listen and compare spectrums with some Guns N' Roses at the same db level. what frequency band do you feel is lacking in the low mids ?" - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:52pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | OMG. I NEED TO GET A LIFE! - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:53pm | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | ok, now my post makes no sense. try again. ok, well.. being as tired as I was when I uploaded these mp3s, and using a new program I'm not yet familiar with... I just realized that I had the " compress audio " checked when converting to mp3... which ruined the mids. I am going to re-upload tonight, if I can get to the studio. The roads are frickin' bad. "Sumyungai, I've got some pretty got spectrum analizing equipment, and I always listen back at mix time at a perfect 85db so... I'm going to take a listen and compare spectrums with some Guns N' Roses at the same db level. what frequency band do you feel is lacking in the low mids ?" - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:53pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | So The dimes of Yesser What will be his next user name? Poppycock? What a gay boy. Just come out already. - Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:09am Edited: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:11am | ||
| Yesser User Info... | "then how bout giving me your real name on here as well so I can check the store and paypal for your purchase" Jeff. Your 3rd grader attempts at getting my real name wont get you anywhere. What is with you? You desperately want my name for? Does this make your music not suck? Does this make you be able to sing? NO! It doesnt. I pre-ordered my copy and didnt expect it in a day you dumb dink. I bitched about it because everyone has their own free copy now and i didnt have to waste 9.99. Stop your cryin already Jeff, just give it up! - Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:15am | ||
| grimlord User Info... | Yesser Pat_McCrotch P.S. You have to know,that I can post wherever I wont:> - Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:19am Edited: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:22am | ||
| grimlord User Info... | WE all rage on Jeff and his band, But we all just compare his shit to are's.He goes ALL OUT on what he believes.SO I say good going Jeff.This guy Yesser is a total "PEACE OF SHIT" we all agree? - Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:37am | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | Yesser, you are completely fucked in the head. I just thoroughly explained to you that I checked the list of purchases from the pre-order sale, and there is not a single name on the list I don't personally know. I also checked paypal to verify. You are a waste of space and time and no, I don't want your fag name. I was legitimately trying to help you, because you kept saying you paid and you didn't get your disc " where is it ? I want to make CD-Rs with my friends ! " not only are you stupid, but you have an extremely short memory I guess. I couldn't care less what your name is. FUCK-HEAD is you're new name from now on so your birth name is irrelevant. Sorry folks couldn't get to the studio... the roads are way too bad. Try again tomorrow. ROCK ON VICTORIA ! - Mon, 22 Dec 2008 5:44am Edited: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 5:45am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "Hey Bruce. First, unless your planning on cutting out your band mates from the proceeds of the CD sales then you're actually looking at $0.013/ hour. Second, if you're trying to feed you kids by selling indie CDs for $9.99 then you are a terrible parent and you should have your children siezed by the ministry, because that is an unralistic and ludicrous goal. Third, democracy is an illusion. You have harped on people in another thread for not being able to navigate a dictionary, try navigating an encyclopedia. Democracy, as envisioned by it's formulators, is far different from any "democratic" system of government in existence today, and frankly, I'm glad because I think that the system that we have now is better, though not perfect." Hey DOC; Quite correct on the math error, I missed the /3. As for my parenting abilities - if you honestly think that my only source of income is the sale of Perish CDs, you're way of base. However, since you insist on defending theft, I can only conclude that you are ethically vappid and morally corrupt. Some characteristics I'm sure you're more than happy to pass on to your offspring. As for you saving us all from democracy and my lack of understanding the word, here's the definition: Democracy: Rule by the people. Abraham Lincoln described democracy as government of the people, for the people, by the people. The NEW WOLRLD ENCYCLOPEDIA DICTIONARY - 1990 edition - defines democracy as Government elected by the common people, not just the privledged and their political interests. I vote. I do not vote for the NDP, LIBERALS, BLOC or CONSERVATIVES. I LIKE to excersice MY right to vote. As for my posts in other threads; YES I object to people who suggest violent assults on the homeless; YES I object to people who find humour in people burning to death; YES I oppose POLICE OFFICERS killing people because they DON'T speak English; YES I oppose warrentless searches on the general public; YES I oppose having Sodium Flouride in the water; YES I oppose Mercury-based preservatives in vaccines. I DO NOT shoot the pets of children with cancer. I DO NOT agree that innocent Canadian citizens should be sent to Syria by the American gov't, to be tortured for 2 years. I DO NOT agree that child murderers should be paid $130,000 for disclosing the whereabouts of their victims, when the afore mentioned foreign torture for information is MUCH MORE SUITABLE. I DO NOT, nor have I EVER allowed MY CHILD to miss a meal, even though I receive $0.00 in child support from the child's mother. If these points of view make me a person who the world needs to be protected from, perhaps you need to re-evaluate your social values. - Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:35pm | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "so asking people to post their "real names and identities" isn't calling someone out?" JI; In my book, 'CALLING SOMEONE OUT' is a challenge to violent confrontation. I am NOT challenging anyone to a physical fight. That would be jeuvinile and base and I WILL NOT STOOP to that level of immaturity - although that seems to be your FIRST expectation and likely your first response to any disagreement. I'd just like to see the face and know the name of the guy who's going on about how COOL piracy and copyright infringment is. That way I'll know who to take to court. After all, I am NOT afraid to use my name or photo (mind you, on here my pic is a bit distorted, but there are others on theperish.ca if you want a good look). As for having a 40yr old body, that's okay. I'm 6'1" and 175lbs, with the same 32 inch waistband as I had at 18. In comparison, I see plenty of 20, 30 and 40yr olds with the bodies of 2, 3 & 4 40yr olds squeezed into 45", 56" and 68" waistbands. So, I'm not ashamed of my body. - Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:51pm Edited: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:04am | ||
| grimlord User Info... | Yes you are Afraid to put your pic up here. Yesser ,Anonymous or what ever . fucking scared lil goof - Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:28am Edited: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:30am | ||
| Doc User Info... | Abe Lincoln was NOT one of the formulators of democratic theory, in fact he wasn't even a democrat. The dictionary definition that you provided is not entirely correct. It's not wrong per se, but it is grossly incomplete and misleading. A truly democratic system is one where EVERYTHING is voted on by the people. The legislative branch of government drafts and revises laws, but the ultimate say rests with the people. In polite circles it is also called tyranny of the majority. As for my eithics and morals, they are in no need of adjustment or examination. They suit me, and 1.6 billion other people, just fine. Contrary to advocating or supporting violence, I have on several occasions on this board proclaimed my belief in pacifism. I have not ever advocated or supported theft, your misguided perceptions to the contrary. I did however, point out that you were foolish to so quickly reject an offer by someone to give you band free exposure, which it desperately needs. As for your parenting situation, I sympathize that you do not receive child support from the mother of your kid. I also receive no support from the mother of my four children, and in fact have to pay support to her, because she is on wellfare, despite the fact that I have 50% custody and pay for their school, after school activities, and other requirements. I've been playing this game for a lot of years, and you'll just have to get used to it, single dads just get screwed. Oh, and yeah, I'm more than happy to pass my sense of morals and ethics to my kids. I'm sure that it will help them to grow in to mature, stable, responsible individuals with a desire to better themselves, the world, and thei fellow man. ~Continuing to keep the world safe from democracy (and Bruce). Doc - Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:36am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "In polite circles it is also called tyranny of the majority." As opposed to 'TYRANNY BY THE MINORITY' (ie. the Elite Class, like those Wall St. bankers, stock market manipulators, petro-chemical and pharamaceutical conglomerates), I think I'd prefer the former. At least that way it won't be JUST the smaller percentage of the population with the greatest percentage of the wealth who decide what goes in the air, water and soil. No, the middle class - what's left of it - and the poor are not conspiring to drive up your cost of living like the Provincial and Federal governments, who legislate a higher cost of living for ALL, but only vote THEMSELVES big fat raises. "I did however, point out that you were foolish to so quickly reject an offer by someone to give you band free exposure, which it desperately needs." You did. Someone we don't know, who claims to HATE US, admits their desire to break copywright and piracy laws, and refuses to identify himself. I wonder how many people in business willingly and knowingly turn over their promotion to an annonomous someone who wants them to fail? Doesn't sound like sound advise to me. As for your comment regarding paying more in taxes than I earn in a year - perhaps you should consider hiring an accountant who can help you with tax shelters. Unless you enjoy paying all those taxes, which you just might, since you seem to be accepting of what may turn out to be a $4+ billion tax burden for ALL Canadians. "you'll just have to get used to it, single dads just get screwed." Oh. You mean don't fight what's blatantly WRONG, just roll over and accept it. Now that really is BAD ADVISE. - Tue, 23 Dec 2008 2:32am | ||
| Doc User Info... | I never said anything about paying more in taxes than you earn in a year, I never said anything about taxes. Learn to read. Also, I never said don't fight what's blatantly wrong, I siad get used to the fact that as single dads we get screwed. You have some serious anger and frustration issues that you need to work out my friend. I suggest that you go out and find you a mental health professional to talk to about all these agressive, negative feelings that you have. Then you should perhaps go down to you local parish and speak to the pastor about how turning to Christ might help you with your issues. You'd be surprised at how helpful that might be. ~.. Doc - Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:26am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | Ooops, Sorry Doc. It was Yesser that was crowing about paying lots of taxes. My bad. As for my post, I wasn't angry when I wrote it so you can stop with the insults - friend. And as for seeking out religion, no thanx. I'm against any organization in which one person dictates what everyone must believe and how they are to believe it. Religion is just cultism, brainwashing and thought suppression. The democracy debate is moot too, since the choise of who gets into office is decided long before you or I or anyone gets to cast a ballot. The Queen of England is the ruler of the Commonwealth, and it's been Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton (8Note: Obama has enlisted much of Bill Clinton's former administration staff into his administration.) in the U.S. for about 25 years. The entire Left-Right political paradigm is a falsehood. No matter who gets in, there are those much higher up the power structure who make the decisions. Presidents and PMs are just frontmen. The real decision makers belong to groups like the Bilderbergs, the CFR and the Trilateral Commission. People like David Rockafeller and Barron de Rothchilds have been manipulating world economies, governments and wars for over 500 years. - Wed, 24 Dec 2008 3:49am Edited: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 3:58am | ||
| Jl User Info... | I think I know Bruce's FAVORITE MOVIE!!! 1996 release of "CONSPIRACY THEORY" starring MEL GIBSON! And like the movie; THEY'RE BOTH WINNERS! - Wed, 24 Dec 2008 9:04am | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Zeitgeist is a good movie too. - Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:54am | ||
| Yesser User Info... | I have a bunch of CD-r with the Perish on it. Although it sucks ASS i would be more than happy to give you a copy. You MUST not pay for it in any way shape or form!~ - Wed, 24 Dec 2008 4:20pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Bob Loblaw has been waiting for this day to come. Time for some frivolous litigation. - Wed, 24 Dec 2008 5:18pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | Oscar Z. Acosta is my lawyer. I called him today and asked him if i can COPY and GIVE AWAY music........he said that as long as there is no exchange of money there are NO DAMAGES for the Perish to bitch about. People can only SUE over DAMAGES. The Perish would have to have a better lawyer than Bob LoBlaw if they want to prove potential revenue damages. - Wed, 24 Dec 2008 5:26pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | An incompetent lawyer can delay a trial for months or years. A competent lawyer can delay one even longer.Lawyers should never marry other lawyers. This is called "inbreeding," from which comes idiot children and more lawyers.Yesser is just a piss infected monkey penis purple faced yogurt slinger. - Wed, 24 Dec 2008 6:47pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | I have not read any posts sorry. My Grandfather passed away suddenly tonight on Christmas Eve. This is going to affect what I do this week, sorry. There will be some delays and I do appologise. in his memory, here is a link to 20 hits of The Devil's Lettuce. I would like to dedicate the guitar intro of the song to him, and the rock part of the song to all of you on live vic here. Merry Christmas anyways.... exept for Yesser... Your just a fuckin' asshole. if you download our music then you've agreed to the licence at this link. http://theperish.ca/mp3shop/index.php?cmd=licence http://theperish.ca/mp3shop/index.php?cmd=download&code=CB2826440D2866A0038340301AC36 - Thu, 25 Dec 2008 3:16am | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | and yesser, I've always said if you download our music, then you've already agreed to the licence regardless of whether you've read it or not. In the licence it clearly states you are not granted permission to make copies for your friends. I could sue you for copyright infringement. Both you AND your lawyer are completely ignorant. The only reason I won't sue you is because not a fuckin' soul on the earth gives a crap what you have to say, and if you get all 3 of your friends as excited as you are to tell everyone we suck..... You can rest assured it will not affect the real world in any way what-so-ever. So yes, you do fall into the " no actual damages " catagory. - Thu, 25 Dec 2008 3:28am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... |  1996 release of "CONSPIRACY THEORY" starring MEL GIBSON! " Oh gee; Mel isn't the star on this link, guess you need to read the documents to get the info, but I doubt any of the sheeple will. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_depopu.htm#Global_2000_Program - Thu, 25 Dec 2008 5:08am Edited: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 5:09am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "I pay more in taxes than you earn, in a year." Perhaps you need an accountant. - Thu, 25 Dec 2008 5:12am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "I have a bunch of CD-r with the Perish on it. Although it sucks ASS i would be more than happy to give you a copy. You MUST not pay for it in any way shape or form!~ " I'd like a copy, PLEASE. - Thu, 25 Dec 2008 5:14am Edited: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 5:14am | ||
| Hearse User Info... | That song download link doesn't work for me. "...tp://www.bibliotecapley..." Bad URL. "sheeple" Only complete morons use this word, ever. Thank goodness the New World Order doesn't display such incompetence or their nefarious plans of world economic domination would not have come to fruition, eh? No one would be worse off by taking a few post-graduate courses in logic and critical thinking. - Thu, 25 Dec 2008 8:52am | ||
| Jl User Info... | "Oh gee; Mel isn't the star on this link, guess you need to read the documents to get the info, but I doubt any of the sheeple will." http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118883/ bitch, dont tell me i dont know who stars in what movie! - Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:14am | ||
| Yesser User Info... | "I've always said if you download our music, then you've already agreed to the licence regardless of whether you've read it or not." Um sorry to say buddy i havent agreed to anything. You may want to figure all this kind of stuff out BEFORE you try and GIVE AWAY music. WHy do you think all other websites make you AGREE to terms and conditions BEFORE you download program. You lose JEFF. And THAT is why you wont sue me.........because..... A. You have NO damages B. YOU sent me the songs through internet download AND I bought a hard copy. Merry Christmas thanks for the downloads. You may want to hire someone to reconfigure your site. Sorry about your Grandfather. RIP ANd to you BRUCEY~!!!!!! You are one fucked up cat. - Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:22am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "That song download link doesn't work for me." Hmmm...that could be because it's NOT a song link, maybe? - Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:46am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "bitch, dont tell me i dont know who stars in what movie!" I didn't say 'movie', I said link. - Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:47am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "ANd to you BRUCEY~!!!!!! You are one fucked up cat." This from the poster-girl for fucked up. - Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:48am Edited: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:48am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "sheeple" Only complete morons use this word, ever." Sheeple is what the Bilderbergs call all us common folks. - Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:50am | ||
| grimlord User Info... | From Jordi Vickers A.K.A. Yesser ([email protected]) Graeme, I love owning you, but i find it so hard to keep flipping insults at you because I know you wont understand the long words. You are washed up dude. You are in some serious rough shape. You have no education. You have no life. You have been flicking shit at me for a while now and ALL you got are insults. I know everything about you....EVERYTHING. YOu know nothing about me. Thats the game thats played here. The game i am winning. And that Livevictoria post you just put up proves it. I haven't replied to your posts because I win. WWHHAAAA!!! WWHHAAAA!!! WHAAA!! Stop crying for me to stop. Are you Jordi Vickers or are you Steve Ricketts? Don't believe anything this guys says.Check out this SHITTY website of there video production,no demo's,no audio , how budget.You are still ussing the XL1 Ha ha. http://www.vickersproductions.com/ - Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:59pm Edited: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 1:18pm | ||
| Hearse User Info... | "Sheeple is what the Bilderbergs call all us common folks." Good for 'them'. One day they'll be as dead in their graves as you and I. That's all that matters and your fascination with their hijinks means as much as one's fascination with Paris Hilton. Which is to say, whatever you want it to mean. - Fri, 26 Dec 2008 1:35pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | How fucked is this Yesser guy, he keep emailing me trying to stop me from posting on here. Tells me "all I do is insult him" .Cry baby .I will never stop,as long as you are on this site, I will Haunt you !The people here may not like me, but they hate you(Yesser that is).What a fucking PUSSY - Fri, 26 Dec 2008 8:19pm Edited: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 8:44pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | I will Haunt you !The people here may not like me, but they hate you(Yesser that is). I have not been emailing this under achiever. Looks like he has other fans. - Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:00am | ||
| sumyungai User Info... | I like you Grimlord. - Sat, 27 Dec 2008 2:09pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | Thanks man I think I struck a nerve with this guy.But I am not to sure what it is,was it me calling him gay,or a waist of human space, that sent him over the edge?I will never know ,all I do know is he emailed me 8 times . - Sat, 27 Dec 2008 2:32pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | I gave up on this 38 year old loser. The guy cant even type a 3 word sentence without fuckn' it up. "Waist of space?" Too easy. - Sat, 27 Dec 2008 3:21pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | "Can i call you? lol Now this will end the game. OK?" "You told me i dont know what you are capable of. You told me i dont know who you are. Why threaten someone you dont know. You keep acting tuff online Graeme. Why? Its a stupid game you play. You keep calling me a waste and a fucker. hahahaha You dont even know me. Do your self and every one else a favour and DONT REPLY TO ME EVER AGAIN. OK?" This guy is starting up accounts on websites in my name and put up an ad on used vic. for Nintendo wii that I dont have.Talk about obsession.I am still waiting for your call. This is another email I got from him. "Waiste of space? A 3 word sentence and you STILL cant spell it all right. Fuck you are such an idiot. No wonder you couldnt pass grade 9. Now I know you are a lair about never emailing me. "You can continue online saying how you GOT ME or OFFENDED me. I find it too easy to insult you and thats why everyone picks up for you. They feel bad for the town retard." - Sat, 27 Dec 2008 4:01pm Edited: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 4:32pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | So...... how bout that new perish cd, eh? - Sat, 27 Dec 2008 5:39pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | Sorry again to the parish . - Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:23am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... |  | ||
| grimlord User Info... | Hay Trev,I got like 25 friend request/suggestions from you on face book(all HOT chic's)did you send this?? - Mon, 29 Dec 2008 1:55am Edited: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 1:57am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Yeah buddy. Just trying to spread the wealth! - Mon, 29 Dec 2008 2:29am | ||
| CL User Info... | ""Sheeple is what the Bilderbergs call all us common folks." Good for 'them'. One day they'll be as dead in their graves as you and I. That's all that matters and your fascination with their hijinks means as much as one's fascination with Paris Hilton. Which is to say, whatever you want it to mean." Well put sir, and kudos to you. The rest of this thread is like a fucking car crash. Keep it up! - Mon, 29 Dec 2008 6:02pm | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | Unbelievable! This thread has literally everything a LiveVic enthusiast could want. So much ado about nothing, or almost nothing; a CDr release of a record that nobody would ever care about if it weren't for the gibberish spewed out by its creators. Despite wild (and unsupported) claims of interest (and even contracts with) the likes of Universal, Sony and Delinquent (who?) records this particlar work of art seems to be a home made CDr that is affiliated with no label at all. I think it is laudable that Jeff, Bruce et al are proud of their work and have obviously worked hard at their craft (hundreds of hours, Bruce?) but the defensive tone of both Jeff and Bruce's posts suggest that perhaps there are deeper issues here. For me the whole Perish thing seems to be an attempt by these guys to become BIG ROCK STARS; everything else is a by product of that goal. Certainly the funniest quote I have read on this message board all year was Jeff's fervent assertion that "I have no ego" which is about 180 degrees from what I think is the truth. All the talk about Save-on-Foods gigs, Sony, Universal... it all smacks of a sort of pathetic wannabe mindset that would be tolerable if the product that is expected to lead to all this stardom were any good at all. Alas it is not, something that even Jeff admits (and has a zillion excuses for, at least sonically). As music this new Perish product is prety pro forma (despite the "rippin' guitars, "solid drums" and the curiously described "well planned bass lines"); I think it sounds like "Survival" or "E Puribus Funk" era Grand Funk Railroad or maybe late period Bloodrock which is to say that it is expedient boogie-rock crap that would have been lameassed in 1970. The singing is barely adequate, the playing wooden and perfunctory, even the mix is typical of this kind of stoner rock; big fat "happy face" EQ (there should be no MAJOR difference between the mp3 and CD mixes Jeff). The lyrics are purile at best and suggest a 15 year old headbanger rather than a 30 something adult ("the Devil's Lettuce", how subtle). A record like that which is made on an almost daily basis by like minded individuals almost everywhere where it is obvious that the music on the "product" is merely a by-product of a much deeper quest: the quest for mega-rock-stardom. So why do we all care? Under normal circumstances most of us would be too bored with this crap to puke at it but this thread has literally hundreds of posts on it. Why? Could it be the literally unbelieveable claims made by Jeff about the record industry's interest in his "group"? The litany of imaginary posters supporting the Perish and their cause (posters that were eventually exposed as pseudonyms of the artist himself slapping himself on the back)? The crazy Royal Theatre gig which was by all accounts a catastrophe that elicited belly laughs by all that were fortunate enough to witness it (although the Perish themselves considered it a "great success" despite an attendance of only a couple dozen paying customers in a room that holds hundreds). The promise of an even BIGGER and BETTER show at the even bigger SOFMA (sadly unfullfilled)? The plans to support Led Zeppelin if and when that band ever reconvenes? The doctored videos of the bands live performances (where did you get all that applause Jeff, "Kiss Alive"?) where it is obvious that there are almost no people at the gig (and, it seems, that most of them are children)? The claims of extraterrestrial beings being involved? It's all too much to absorb for some of us and there is a part of me that is uncomfortable at deriving musement by all the curious machinations of the Perish, like picking on the special needs kid at school. But you guys keep coming back for more so what the hell. The "licensing agreement" on the Perish website is so aggressive and confrontational that I'm betting ANY radio program director reading it wouldn't touch this band with a 10 foot cattle prod; this just in, threatening to SUE people who "illegally" listen to your music, or even share it with their friends isn't going to make you any friends in the music business. "Our mp3 store is set up to bust you if you try to share a downloaded link with someone who hasn't paid for it"? Who the fuck to you think you are, Lars Ulrich? With stuff this bad you need every friend you can get guys. Your attitude towards "sharing" your music reminds me of the old British musician's union and their belief that radio play somehow cut into record sales which resulted in the ridiculous concept of "needle time" (where the BBC could only play a song once or twice a day; at least this archaic belief led to the establishment of the legendary Peel sessions). You guys have proven to me that you simply haven't got a clue how the music business works. Turning yourselves into the laughingstock of Victoria will NOT turn you into rich and famous rockstars. Having said all this I hope you guys never change and I await with bated breath the 3rd Perish record; Lord knows we can all use the laughs. - Tue, 30 Dec 2008 3:10pm | ||
| Doc User Info... | Y'know Zippy, I have to agree with you, except about the funniest post part. I think that would be the one where I told Jeff that they tone from his Sammick was terrible and he replied that he actually has tons of other guitars, but prefers the Sammick. I nearly pissed myself when I saw that. My 11 year old son commented to me the other day that his friends Sammick has crappy tone, and he, my son, has only been playing guitar for about a year and his ear isn't that developed. ~Peace sells, if you market it right. Doc - Tue, 30 Dec 2008 6:32pm | ||
| CL User Info... | I'm really REALLY looking forward to the next post from the Perish Posse. Although, Zip, you're right - I do feel a little guilty even posting this, cause it is sort of like picking on the Special Ed kids. Aw fuck - now I feel guilty about posting THAT. - Tue, 30 Dec 2008 9:14pm | ||
| evilkleg User Info... | OK, I've held back long enough. Could it be that Jeff is a marketing genius and just sits back and laughs all day long about how frickin' easy it is to rile you livevickers up? And you all take the bait EVERY SINGLE TIME! Is there one other band on Livevic that has generated this much discussion EVER? And each time we post the thresd just goes right on back to the top so that the next person to come along says "Hey, what's this all about?" and then posts his/her two cents thus putting the thread on top AGAIN. Haven't any of you ever heard the expression "there's no such thing as bad publicity"? Man, we used to do this (rile up the message board) quite often in my last band that shall remain nameless (some of you who know me may remember). I've been told there are still some people on here that want to kick my ass because of it LOL! We weren't/aren't assholes- we were just stirring the shit pot and everyone jumped right in! You can't buy publicity like this people! If you want Jeff to stop, DON'T REPLY TO HIS POSTS! If The Perish is as crappy as most of you think, they will quietly fade away as so many bands on here eventually do. Personally, I think you have all created a monster and that monster's name is the THE PERISH. We will be talking about this band for years regardless if they ever play another show or release another CD. And that, My Friends, is fuckin' genius. Jeff and The Perish- I salute you! Keep up the good work. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. - Wed, 31 Dec 2008 5:52pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | Gathering a discussion on a LiveVictoria thread that has gone NOWHERE for 5 years is Genius? Man this world is full of under achievers. No wonder my buddy thinks his kid is brilliant; he is looking at 35 year old wash ups as genius'. - Wed, 31 Dec 2008 6:44pm | ||
| Chopper User Info... | 'Haven't any of you ever heard the expression "there's no such thing as bad publicity"?' That's generally true once you've actually made it in *insert industry here*. The exact opposite happens when you don't have a name in *insert industry here* and think you're shit doesn't stink and you're the next big thing. Being delusional does not attract people to your cause, and it certainly doesn't attract record execs. - Wed, 31 Dec 2008 8:09pm | ||
| CL User Info... | I don't want Jeff and Bruce to stop. Why would anyone want them to stop? This shit is fuckin' GOLDEN. - Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:48pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | Jeff has to stop now. No one said it as good as Zipp. Completely IMPOSSIBLE to respond to it without admitting they suck and their attitudes are delusional. - Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:17am | ||
| Doc User Info... | I think that this whole "don't share our music" thing that Bruce is on is quite funny. Mostly because I found the following quote on Facebook, where Jeff Noyes writes, "If you like our songs and videos please feel free to share them with all your friends". Man you guys should really communicate and get yer shit straight before you start spreading contradictory messages. ~I am the terror that flaps in the night! Doc - Thu, 1 Jan 2009 12:58pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | "Jeff has to stop now. No one said it as good as Zipp. Completely IMPOSSIBLE to respond to it without admitting they suck and their attitudes are delusional." who really cares THAT much if what they claim to achieve is delusional? What did you think when people told you: "you cant do that..."... it makes you want it more. Im not defending the perish in any way; but if opening for a band that's LONG past their prime and DOESN'T tour anymore as a complete group is what they want... then so be it. But Im not about to tell them they CANT do it. But I will say 'good luck'. I think Its pretty childish on both parts... a)from the perish to keep posting in the shit circles b)for people like alot of you/us here telling others what they cant do. Grow up; people can have asperations even if YOU think its impossible, regardless of what your life experiences have taught you... everyone is different ;) - Thu, 1 Jan 2009 1:27pm Edited: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 1:28pm | ||
| Doc User Info... | I changed my mind, this quote from Jeff is now my choice for funniest post in a Perish thread. From "The Perish COncert" threas in the C&Q section Jeff writes, "I think EVERYONE who actaully meets me and shakes my hand.... finds out pretty quick that...I don't suck that bad at guitar or singing". This is the best because it implies that while he doesn't suck THAT bad at guitar or singing, he none the less does suck. Funny as hell. On another note, though I have never met Jeff or shaken his hand, I do think that his guitar playing ability is passable, he does however, suck at singing. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Perish needs another singer/lyricist. While this would not fix all of their problems, it would certainly go a long way towards helping. ~Exercising my right to shake my nuts at you. Doc - Thu, 1 Jan 2009 2:01pm | ||
| Chopper User Info... | 'On another note, though I have never met Jeff' Which leads to another of the funniest quotes, again from Jeff in the epic Perish Show Review thread. 'Jeff Noyes from the Perish knows everyone, even if they think he doesn't.' He knows who we all are Doc! - Thu, 1 Jan 2009 2:50pm | ||
| Crux User Info... | this thread is why trolls exist and are awesome. /thread delivers. - Thu, 1 Jan 2009 4:18pm | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | "There is no such thing as bad publcity" eh, Evilkeg? tell that to Sean Avery! - Thu, 1 Jan 2009 9:17pm | ||
| sumyungai User Info... | Or Gary Glitter. - Thu, 1 Jan 2009 10:52pm | ||
| Curmudegon Rocker User Info... | or wigged out astronaut lady and her depends. - Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:50pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | ""There is no such thing as bad publcity" eh, Evilkeg? tell that to Sean Avery!" comparing those situations is like comparing celery to apples. Avery was simply wondering why players are picking up on his sloppy seconds... not promising the world for this little music niche we are. And besides, I wont forget who Sean Avery is; so depending on your opinion of "press"... in this case, despite him not playing in the NHL currently, he wont be forgotten... and therefore the press could still have worked in his favor. - Fri, 2 Jan 2009 9:48am | ||
| Gare User Info... | I would hate to be remembered as the guy who stuck his foot in his mouth. If you ask me the Celery and Apples do look pretty similar from here. - Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:17pm | ||
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| KRIEG User Info... | "....Goodluck Jeff and Bruce I think you are the best band ever." Hearty LOLZ at this post!!! Were the mods to check the IP addy of "Vicky", I'd bet my ass it's a match for either Bruce of Jeff. Keep failing, guys. - Fri, 2 Jan 2009 4:02pm | ||
| Chopper User Info... | 'At least when he signs a record deal he will be able to tour unlike all of you who work at walmart and have rent to pay.' That's even funnier, as Jeff has already stated more than once that they've already been signed with Deliquent records. Thanks for verifying Jeff is indeed delusional. Oh and BTW, a band doesn't need a recording contract to tour. - Fri, 2 Jan 2009 4:44pm | ||
| Doc User Info... | Even though I doubt that Bruce has actually come the realization that his band isn't as good as he thinks it is, I never the less fail to see how such a realization would ruin someone's Christmas. Christmas is supposed to be a time of celebration with family and giving, not the type of things that should be spoiled by having someone tell you that your band sucks. Furthermore, given Bruces own condemnation of religion in this very thread, it seems a little hypocritical that he would be celebrating Christmas anyways. However, that's the kind of self contradictory tripe that I've come to expect from these yahoos. ~Sucking cock rules, as long as it's my cock and your sucking. Doc - Fri, 2 Jan 2009 8:03pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | "'At least when he signs a record deal he will be able to tour unlike all of you who work at walmart and have rent to pay." umm... I dont work at walmart; and I've "toured". I work my ass off, yes to cover rent... but I dont need a record deal to organize a tour. Its funny how naive people are. - Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:07am | ||
| Mike S. User Info... | "Its funny how naive people are." if it looks like a douche, smells like a douche, its likely THE douche. - Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:46am | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | How odd; "Vicky"'s post seems to have been deleted. Abducted by aliens, perhaps? - Sat, 3 Jan 2009 1:04pm Edited: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 1:06pm | ||
| Mike S. User Info... | Not quite aliens. Billy Goats. Yesser the troll posted it and then answered it so it got deleted. - Sat, 3 Jan 2009 1:28pm Edited: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 1:29pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | It was funny while it lasted - Sat, 3 Jan 2009 4:55pm | ||
| sumyungai User Info... | Yet another of "Vicky"'s posts deleted? This is getting very interesting... Edit: Ths is great! In the moment that I took to post this, not only did "Vicky"'s message disappear, but Yesser's message above completely changed in both content and tone. Yet it doesn't indicate having been edited. Strange indeed... - Sat, 3 Jan 2009 4:56pm Edited: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 4:58pm | ||
| Mike S. User Info... | guess Yesser Vicky Vicarious decided against calling Nev an idiot on the board.. - Sat, 3 Jan 2009 6:07pm | ||
| Yesser/Vicky User Info... | I don't think I need to call Nev an idiot. Its quite apparent from him leaving a PA in a piece of shit van to get ripped off. - Sat, 3 Jan 2009 7:27pm | ||
| CL User Info... | Come on, let's limit this to the Perish, folks. I don't check this thread five times a day for random gossip. I check this thread five times a day for posts by and about the Perish. THE PERISH!!! - Sun, 4 Jan 2009 1:41pm | ||
| laprider User Info... | wow...well as I'm chilling at the cabin fixing leaks as the snow melts I had some time to kill. It took me FOREVER but I finally found a working link to hear some of the songs from the "new" album. why not just put them on your myspace? I listened to a couple songs, OK, mediocre, your average homemade recording of a band. Nothing at all wrong with that. So I pose the question,why all the outlandish claims etc...why not just get out there and pay your dues like it takes as a band. You'll actually get considerably more skilled the more you play live. Just my 2 cents - Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:30am | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | "why not just put them on your myspace?" That might become a litigious issue....... - Thu, 8 Jan 2009 8:39am | ||
| Mike S. User Info... | better yet... put some tunes on http://www.garageband.com , enter them into the contest and get some UNBIASED, NON-LOCAL reviews of the material.. its a good way to put into perspective what people from far outside your personal sphere of existence think of your music. Reviews are done by people before they find out the band name, location, information etc. Catch is you have to do a set of reviews yourself to gain entry credits, but bands have been signed from publicity gained on that site, and at the very least its another avenue to spread your name abroad. - Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:47am | ||
| Yesser User Info... | Here ya go JEFF and the rest of PERISH. Led Zepplin is on tour. You said you would be opening for them. http://music.sympatico.msn.ca/newsandfeatures/contentposting_news?newsitemid=26852&feedname=BUM_MUSIC_NEWS_EN&show=False&number=0&showbyline=True&subtitle=&detect=&abc=abc&date=False - Sat, 10 Jan 2009 1:12am | ||
| Jl User Info... | thats fucking ridiculous to even think Zep would tour without Plant... Its like the Van Halen/Sammy Hagar battle all over again :S - Sat, 10 Jan 2009 9:17am | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... |  Sorry about the delays with the music stuff. I had some famliy issues to deal with as my grandfather passed away on Christmas eve. Also... I was not thrilled with the mix and mastering of our new songs... and after reading some really usefull constructive critizism by people that proved to have actual studio knowledge, I felt it was unanomous that the album must be re-mixed. So... we've spent endless nights burning the midnight oil and did so. I agreed with sumyoungguy who mentioned the missing lower mids. My problem there was the vocals were thin, and I had them as far as I could go volume wise, EQ wise, and compression wise.... so I guess without realizing it I had backed off too much on other instruments ( mainly guitars ) to compensate. THE CURE: god bless tubes. Nice FAT tubes. I ran ALL the vocal tracks through a nice new tube pre-amp we just got for these situations. WHAT a difference, night and day ! this allowed me to re-mix the entire album because I had way more headroom to work with on all other instruments. Also did some tweaks to my mastering tools. As my thanks to those who had something legit to say and not just beak off... here is 6 FREE copies of our new album in mp3. First come first serve. First here is our licence agreement again. If you download any music from us then you have agreed to the licence at this link - http://theperish.ca/mp3shop/index.php?cmd=licence ok, here's the album for you all to enjoy, heckle, mock, complain about... or, groove to. If all my hard hours have paid off... you might find yourself rockin' out to these new tunes. http://theperish.ca/mp3shop/index.php?cmd=download&code=14BBD04FC11D6F84202814A8E1A41 ROCK ON VICTORIA !! Cuidate Amigos - Fri, 23 Jan 2009 5:26am Edited: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 5:28am | ||
| BBJones User Info... | Recording/mix is good enough, vocals sound like Bob Seager... but the band as a whole sounds like you're 16 years old coming out of your parents basement. (no offence to 16 year olds) That mianly comes through on the song writing, which is quite poor. It seems the playing talent, which for guitar and vocals is matured, far outshines the songwriting and cohesiveness of the band, which comes across as very immature. Oh and auditon your MP3 rips before posting them for others. - Fri, 23 Jan 2009 7:47am Edited: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 7:52am | ||
| Doc User Info... | I only had time to listen to one track b/c I have to take the kiddies to school. The mix sounds much better though. However, I would consider playiong with your guitar tone for the future. It's a little tinny and could also stand to be fuller. Just a thought. ~My God is bigger than your God. Doc - Fri, 23 Jan 2009 8:32am | ||
| Doc User Info... | Okay, kids are at school, and I've ahd a chance to listen to all of the tracks. I'm not going to comment on the vocals or lyrics, b/c I've made my opinion on that known and revisiting it would not be constructive here. Although, I can say that after another listen through of the album, the vocals themselves are not bad, not great, but not bad. A few general comments that can apply to almost every song on the album. 1.) The bass follows the guitar too much. There needs to be more variation in the bass parts, this will make your songs more dynamic. Also, your bass player should play with his fingers instead of a pick. Nothing is as big a turn off to me as the sound of a pick on bass strings, and it's not like he's playing anything overly difficult. 2.) While the mix is generally a lot better, I think that the guitar solos could be brought up a bit more. I found that they tended to get lost in the rhythm part at times. Now for some song specific comments. 1.) Turpentine - While I thought that the quality of the vocals was generally good you seemed to be straining in this song a little. It could maybe be played down half a step and that might fix the problem. 2.) Not Real - I found the guitar tone to be annoyingly tinny, I made a general comment about guitar tone in my last post that I would like to now rescind, as the toen was good with one or two exceptinos, this being one of them. 3.) I Don't Want You Any More - production wise I thought this song was fine, but the band ws a little sloppy coming out of the first chorus. 4.)Soda Can - Right before the solo, the vocals seem to go a bit to high for your range. 5.)Inside I Rust - I wrote in my notes taht the vocals could come down in the mix a little, but after a second listen I'm not totally sure, this might just be a taste issue. The intro riff was really cool and I was a little disappointed that it wasn't featured again until the very end of the song. 6.)She's An Animal - This is another song where the key seems to be too highfor your vocal range. This is also the other song where I thought the guitar tone was tinny. 7.) Wooden Door - I thought that the guitars in general could come up more int he mix. 8.)Your Religion Sucks - The hi-hat was too loud, overpowering everything else inthe mix, even the other drums. Also, and I realize that won't sound that constructive, I think the little sample thingy at the end of the song is just flat out lame and should be removed. 9.)Love & A Shotgun - I loved this tune. I thought it was catchy and interesting. It's the only tune that I actually saved the download from. This is the tune that you should shove down peoples throats to gain popularity. While I don't necessarily expect you to act on all of the comments that I've made here, I hope that they provide you with a good starting pont for improving your band and ultimately achieving your goals. I would like to say however, that I agree with BBJones about the song writing, for the most part. I think that the level of musicianshipp far outstrips the song writing abilities (except Love & A Shotgun, I really like that song). Best of luck to you boys. ~Sex sells, but it'll cost you your soul. Doc P.S. When I tried to listen to Tripped and Fell, and Devils Lettuce, the site said that the files did not exist or something to that effect. Just a heads up. - Fri, 23 Jan 2009 9:54am | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... |  thanks for all the feedback. Sorry about the broken links... the php code in our download center is picky about " ' " and " & " in certain places like in a file name. Should have some Devil's Lettuce and Tripped and Fell Now. Here's 6 more copies of the album Can You Hear Us Now ? in mp3 Enjoy... if you download any music from us then you have agreed to the licence provided at this link http://theperish.ca/mp3shop/index.php?cmd=licence and here's the album. We are planning another Victoria Concert soon, and a very special announcement as well. http://theperish.ca/mp3shop/index.php?cmd=download&code=574906CFC38D9FC0230EEBBB214FB Rock On Victoria !! - Fri, 23 Jan 2009 3:35pm | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | oh, and some of the brightness was done to bring out the guitars on the apple ipod. That is our main concern here... ipods. We found this mix to sound the best on ipods. Try it on your ipod and see what you think. cheers. - Fri, 23 Jan 2009 3:47pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | ok, just for fun. let's compare our sound quality to that of the mighty Guns N' Roses who took ten years and over $1,000,000 to produce their new album " Chinese Democracy " Personally I think we hold up pretty good. Here's their sample page http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=12994546 and here's ours http://theperish.ca/mp3shop/index.php?cmd=album&album=2 ROCK ON VICTORIA !!! - Fri, 23 Jan 2009 4:07pm | ||
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| Mike S. User Info... | Yah but myspace use their own method of compression and often the songs uploaded need a bit of home mastering adjustments to sound their best.. vs. whatever the page the Perish samples use.. For example, try uploading a song to garageband then upload the same song to myspace and there are often noticeable differences in the end result. Even the bitrate used by different bands when they upload can make a difference once online file hosting software has its way. for a true comparison, without both final CD's in front of you, you are grasping at straws.. mp3's are NOT a good indication of any products overall sound. About the only thing you could do in this case is upload your music to myspace and then compare to GNR's myspace.. but even that isnt a true indicator. And comparing your product to an album deemed worst of the decade by so many.. ? - Fri, 23 Jan 2009 5:05pm Edited: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 5:07pm | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | good point and good point. I agree the new G n' R sucks balls. I was only talking about over all mp3 sound quality. I didn't think about myspace having a different compression.. that's a good point. I suppose then I will have to dust off our myspace account and upload there. I also agree.. It has to be disc to disc comparison for a truly fair analysis. That being said however both Guns n' Roses and our band are trying to also sell mp3s on the net. I personally think It pays to have the mix a little different for the apple ipods and mp3 junk boxes out there then what is on the disc. I took guns n' roses use your illusion II ( which got production awards ) and took the actual disc and loaded their disc and ours onto my ipod. I kid you not ours sounds better. Try it yourself. Ipods are god right now. That's where the " sell " is. If you honestly think ours sounds bad compared to it please let me know. Also consider the huge money and equipment they had. Give me their studio and I'd have more tools to work with. I think since ours is close , if not better in mp3 on ipods.... then we have a shot at taking them out ! and are ready to hit the launch button on 2009.... which is going to be a fun ride. We've got a big announcement we're going to make soon. Rock on ! ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() - Fri, 23 Jan 2009 5:38pm | ||
| sumyungai User Info... | Thanks for the downloads Jeff, I'll let you know what I think. I have to question the value the comparison to any other albums (other than your own) however. Who gives a shit if your album sounds like (insert mega band here) as long as a:) you like it, and b:) it's the best possible representation of the artist's vision and talents (which should infer a). Sorry to hear about your Grandfather, glad to see it hasn't dampened your enthusiasm. - Fri, 23 Jan 2009 5:55pm | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | sure no problem. looking forward to the feedback before we go do a second press. And by the way.. thanks everyone who bought a pre order CD and agreed to the three disc deal ! and for those who say this and that about Devon's bass playing... you should know. Devon is Just 19 and had only been playing bass for 1 month when he joined our band. He impressed me that much already. He is really talented and now that we've been rehearsing like a machine... I think when you see him play live you'll agree he's got a shot at possibly being one of the very best. Especially now he's on the 5 string. and he only uses a pick on one song. all that IS played with his fingers. Rock on !! - Fri, 23 Jan 2009 6:18pm | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | Ok, I uploaded Turpentine to myspace to make a more fair comparison. Guns n' Roses Myspace http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=12994546 The Perish Myspace http://www.myspace.com/perishrocks Does anyone actually still use myspace ?? Rock on. - Fri, 23 Jan 2009 7:29pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | Devon is Just 19 and had only been playing bass for 1 month HAHAHAHA - Fri, 23 Jan 2009 8:19pm | ||
| KRIEG User Info... | Sweet!! I was rocking out to "Turpentine" on your Myspace page when at the 1:35 mark the most insanely awesome part kicks in. I'm sold, you guys are bigger than Jesus. - Fri, 23 Jan 2009 8:39pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | This: "This is the second commercial Release from Alien Rock group, The Perish. Is rock really back ? for so long we've had nothing that could stand up to those old Van Halen or Guns N' Roses Albums.... Until NOW ! The Perish spent 4 months in the studio on this new album and left no details unchecked. Not only are these some of the most rockin' songs written in over a decade, but the production quality of the album is top notch. Getting compared to the production level of Use Your illusions II by Guns N' Roses has to suggest something about its level of quality alone. Most Anticipated Album Release of The DECADE!" Wow. Forever, I was trying to figure out why the main riff of Not Real sounded familiar. Then I dug out an old Prong tape called 'Force Fed' and that riff appears in it's entirety on one of the songs on there. Not sayin' you ripped Prong, Jeff...just sayin'. Congrats on getting your album done, anyway. The audio quality is definitely good. *edit* But the best part is the robotic speech in the middle of the samples. Can I just buy that? - Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:15pm Edited: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:23pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | hey thanks for the compliments.I don't rip riffs man. I just listened to this album you spoke of and not only is it freakin' horrible ( just my opinion don't get in a huff anyone ) but I tried to hear any resemblence between our song Not Real and any of those songs... and just couldn't hear what you're talking about. Which song were you referring to ? - Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:27pm Edited: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:29pm | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | here's Prong's samples for " force fed " PLEASE tell me what song there even sounds close at all to anything The Perish has ever done. http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/window/media/page/0,,903747-7897514,00.html anyone else think they hear anything like Not Real in any of these prong songs ? sorry man... I just don't hear it. any yes I will sell you just the voiceover. send me $0.99 to my paypal account and it's yours ! Rock On Victoria... glad people are finding the new mix up to snuff. I would still like more feedback before I'm totally satisfied ( which is never ). and yea Yesser.... Devon had only played bass for one month and was 18 when he joined up with us last year. Got some problem with that ? ozzy was 18 when Black Sabbath broke... I'm smellin' some serious envy coming from you man. You shouldn't make it so obvious that you only hate us for succeeding. - Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:44pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | Well I thought it sucks the whole thing The Perish should be on kideo or another show that sucked If there was a reality show about who could suck the most,the perish would come in second, first place out of all the losers(hold on would that make them better then the worst and then .. ah ) aaaaahhhh now I'm all confused ! - Sat, 24 Jan 2009 1:28am | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | it's not really a suprise to any of us that you are confused grimlord. Doc - don't suppose you meant " Not Real " had the high hat too loud instead of " Your Religion Sucks " ??? I'm thinking the hats might be a little loud on Not Real, maybe.... depending on your headphones... but I don't hear that on Your Religion Sucks. - Sat, 24 Jan 2009 3:48am | ||
| Crux User Info... | The production does not sound as good or better than Guns and Roses. Your brand of generic rock and roll is not as good as Guns and Roses. Stop. - Sat, 24 Jan 2009 9:40am | ||
| KRIEG User Info... |  Please, don't ever stop posting here. - Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:37am | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Being that they are samples, they don't have the songs in their entirety on that site. I don't recall the name of the tune at the moment, but I will go have a look and let you know as soon as I can. Then you can proceed with your lawsuit against Prong for traveling forward in time and stealing your riff and using it in the past without your written consent. I am now burnt out on the voice over. Over exposure to anything can make it stale. It's like Stairway To Heaven. Everyone is sick of it. Your voice overs are as classic as Stairway To Heaven. Put that in some promo. - Sat, 24 Jan 2009 12:30pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | ha ha, so true. If I hear smoke on the water one more time someone's gonna die ! Glad you like my voice-overs... my personal favorite is " monster truck salesman " please let me know what prong song you're talking about. I can't hear it on any of them, but different people hear different things. Maybe you're hearing a resemblance that I'm just not picking up on. anyone else think any of the prong songs sound like us ? or us sound like them ? Rock on Victoria ! - Sat, 24 Jan 2009 4:09pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... |  I was hoping for some more " constructive " critizism before we press the new discs. I realize not everyone got to hear it yet though, so here's 10 more Free copies of the album " Can You Hear Us Now ? " in mp3 please let me know what you all think, oh and just to clarify... I DON'T think at all that we are better than Guns n' Roses. Chinese Democracy was not recorded by Guns n' Roses. It was recoreded by a bunch of Slash/Duff/Gilby/Matt wanna-be'z. The NEW guns n' roses sucks ass, and I do think we sound better than that. That's not being high on myself at all... that's just a given. A Pre-school class could do better song writing, and production. It's Crap and everyone knows it. As for us " sounding " better than guns n' roses... I was specifically talking about the sound on APPLE IPODs . I am not being high on myself either. Just because I wrote the songs on our album doesn't make me unable to hear the difference between the general sound of two albums on my ipod. I am not being bias, I was saying exacty what I and other hear between our new album and " use your illusion II " on IPODS. go ahead and download ours, and take your use your illusion II album and put that on your ipod too. Then compare them. I think you'll find our album sounds pretty good compared to it on your IPOD. And that also doesn't mean I'm not willing to make further changes to it. There are so many devices out there that sound so different. some are too much low end, some are too much high end. I have 3 sets of headphones for my ipod, and they all sound COMPLETELY different with my ipod set at the same volume with the same settings on the same song. It's harder these days with all the crappy mp3 devices out there taking your disc and putting it into mp3 or mp4 on their ipods... mixed with people using high quality sound systems with your disc.. to get a balanced quality mix on them all. By hey, it's art.. and we'll alway be getting better at it. if you download any music from us then you have agreed to the licence provided at this link http://theperish.ca/mp3shop/index.php?cmd=licence and now here's 10 free copies of our album Can You Hear Us Now ? http://theperish.ca/mp3shop/index.php?cmd=download&code=214F09CD11E0DA2E810CC468275E5 Rock On Victoria !!! - Sun, 25 Jan 2009 2:18pm | ||
| Mike S. User Info... | I think most bands use myspace.. so have you busted anyone yet breaking the licence? - Mon, 26 Jan 2009 7:06pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | well, the licence is there for legal reasons of course. But idiots will always be idiots, and assholes will always be assholes... and I can't control all idiotic assholes; otherwise I would have had George Bush Kill Himself a long time ago. The good news is research shows that idiotic assholes usually have less than 4 friends. So, if they rip my music and sell it to their 4 friends or something... my career will go on just fine, and that idiotic asshole will still be listing to our stolen music in his mom's basement, laughing like a mad-man, and thinking.... God I'm so clever. We've got bigger fish to fry. If someone is caught making financial gain from our music, we'll just take all the money they just made for us. That's all the licence is for. No Big deal. Hey Doc, I don't suppose you were talking about " Not Real " having too loud high hats instead of " Your Religion Sucks " ??? I'm thinking that the hats just might be a little loud on not real and wondering if that's the song you meant. Rock On Victoria !!! - Mon, 26 Jan 2009 7:44pm Edited: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 7:46pm | ||
| Doc User Info... | May have been Jeff, I'll have to listen again to tell you for sure. That'll have to wait a few days though 'cause I'm moving Friday and my speakers are packed up right now. ~Beer, chicks, chicken! Doc - Mon, 26 Jan 2009 8:12pm | ||
| JDL User Info... | "If someone is caught making financial gain from our music, we'll just take all the money they just made for us. " can you define "financial gain"? As, if I were to "rip" your music and sell it to my 4 friends... technically I would sell it for financial gain :P - Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:33pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | No one will pay for this crap,and if you did you are a fool.No one will steel it and try and sell it. You are delusional,The fact is it's not that ggod not even worth putting on the radio and I know you would like it to be but it's just not going to happen.Like people said before go out and pay your dews for a wile and dont talk all "I'm the shit" when you have a high school rock band kind of sound.All these people on here can't be wrong.The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different resultant.1st album Can you here us now ,2nd can you here us now , 3rd you can here us now 4th yes we here you please stop. - Tue, 27 Jan 2009 1:45pm Edited: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 1:47pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | what difference does it make to you, grim., if these guys think they are gods gift to music? Are you intimidated? I dont agree with alot of what they say/write; but Im not gunna go and tell them that they suck and should stop persuing what they want. What if I came out and told you, grim., that your band licked my ball sack and you couldn't write worth shit? It probably wouldn't bother you... so why cant you FINALLY see that it really doesn't bother them(the perish)? Or, are you gunna blame this on your upbringing and schooling too? - Tue, 27 Jan 2009 1:56pm | ||
| Mike S. User Info... | Steel Dew! Great band name. ps: I think the album is called Can You 'HEAR' Us Now - Tue, 27 Jan 2009 2:24pm Edited: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 2:25pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | They still have two more albums to go till I tell them to stop. Mike shut up - Tue, 27 Jan 2009 2:29pm Edited: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 2:30pm | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | Fascinating. You ask us to compare your new album with "Chinese Democracy", possibly the most overblown, tedious, protracted piece of shit ever made that was so eagerly awaited by many deluded rock fans for what seemed like forever. You seem to agree with the majority who feel that it is pure shit, expedient product of the first water. So why do you use it as a model of comparison? Oh yeah, that's right, G'n'R are, for better or worse, MASSIVE ROCK STARS. Weird. - Tue, 27 Jan 2009 3:04pm | ||
| Mike S. User Info... | I like the song Motionless. Has a real Kyuss vibe to it. - Tue, 27 Jan 2009 6:08pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | mmmmm, not sure if any of this counts as " constructive " critisizm. buy whatever. First up Krieg who calls us delusional, I notice your user info says: Bow down before me, for I am the highest embodiment of human life. wow, now that's delusional. grimlord is delusional for thinking if he told us to stop making albums that we actually would listen to him. I KNOW the new g n' r sucks ass. I was mearly saying that We did pretty good when you compare our sound quality to theirs on apple ipods. And we spent millions less and didn't take ten years to do it. That's ALL I was saying about the guns n' roses. I know where my career is heading and I know that I love what I do...... slaggers... such as grimlord and Krieg, so what makes me delusional ? that fact that you yourself have the opinion that we aren't good enough ? maybe that attitude is exactly what has stopped you from reaching your own goals. Maybe it turned you into a bitter fuck who sits on the computer all day bitchin' about other bands who actually are trying hard and just might make it. Everyone I've ever mets claims to hate Britney Spears... yet she is totally successfull anyways.. WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION !! Rock On Victoria !! - Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:27am | ||
| Jl User Info... | does it really feel that good to tell people/fellow musicians they're dellusional? So what if he says he wants to play the sofa, open for led zepplin, or if HE THINKS his band is better than GnR? WHO CARES? Personally, I would like to think that my music that I write is on par with most professional musicians... am I now therefore dellusional? Grow up guys, we all had dreams; and there were people to tell us otherwise... but what did we think of those people, that told us otherwise? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. I've wasted many posts trying to figure out how these guys keep coming back for more... I've given up, and now realise it was a compelte waste of time pointing fingers and calling people "dellusional" for what they dream for. - Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:49am | ||
| grimlord User Info... | I was going to use Madonna for that analogy my self but I do complement Jeff and his band for putting out a 2nd album that is totally cool,good on you.But I just dont like it that is all,I don't like Kyuss that much ether but I do like some Queen's of the Stone Age .And me telling you to stop was a joke,don't take everything so seriously it is live vic. - Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:47pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | I just got back from a hike in the woods... where I was told the name of our next album, which we are indeed working on. It will be a double album Title: Use Your Delusions and Use Your Delusions II and yes I'm totally serious. Rock On Victoria ! - Wed, 28 Jan 2009 1:24pm Edited: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 1:27pm | ||
| Rubber Box User Info... | Thats not bad but you should call it Here's Another 10 Free Copies or Rock On Victoria ! - Wed, 28 Jan 2009 1:52pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | HAHAHAHAHA HEE HA OH OH HAHAHAHAHA Jeff you are the funniest good one hahahaha - Wed, 28 Jan 2009 4:04pm | ||
| JDL User Info... | fair enough, grim. but you wouldn't tell Kyuss they suck would you? If no, then why should you tell The Perish they suck? its mean! lol. In all fairness, Im soley speaking to people like zippgunn, who are well known in the music scene here. And someone who I think, knows their stuff. Does it really turn your crank to tell other bands the reality of life? Just because they think the way they do; doesn't mean they're wrong. Because they think they're "bettter sounding" than GnR shouldn't be held against them(my cats have better tune than them). If you dont lik'em then dont listen. Im SURE someone in your life told you that being a studio engineer is a dead end job; but you did it anyways. And maybe those people thought you were dellusional to think so; personally, Im thankful people like you keep the scene going by offering your services. BUT, I draw the line when the very same people tell fellow musicians that "they cant do something". You dont know me personally, zipp., but I have in the past recorded with you at SOS; and thought your insight was very helpful and useful. But now, Im not so sure I would feel as comfortable asking you/picking your brain about the music scene/industry for fears of being lambasted as dellusional and idiotic; because at the end of the day, EVERY musician wants the big ticket... but not everyone can! If it really bothers you THAT much that the perish think the way they do; then dont read/listen/or acknowledge them or their presence... its pretty simple. And who really cares what they think of their music? Its not their opinion anyways, its yours. - Wed, 28 Jan 2009 4:06pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | How would he tell Kyuss that they suck? They ceased to be a long time ago. - Thu, 29 Jan 2009 2:42am | ||
| JDL User Info... | cheeky bastard... it was meant as a "figurative" analogy. - Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:59am | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | The only part of this band that technically 'sucks' is the drumming. Some of the most lagging fills I've heard since high school jam sessions. Oh, and the lyrics. The rest is average. The quality of the recording is good. This is the truth. - Thu, 29 Jan 2009 1:28pm | ||
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| Bruce Graham User Info... | Hey Jeff; Mr. Hell wants to play drums for us. I'll take the rhythm guitar spot and he can amaze us with his technically spectacular drumming. Of course he'd have to supply his own gear and be ready to rehearse at 10:30AM - oh right he won't need to rehearse, he's so awesome. He will have to stop wearing that retarded Gene Simmons get-up though. - Sat, 31 Jan 2009 1:59am Edited: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 2:40am | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | well Bruce everyone has an opinion. Apparently my lyrics suck and my guitar work is only average... but hey. who cares. Don't forget all the praise you got this week on iLike about your drumming. Some people have made specific comments this week about your wicked drums Bruce so don't worry about it. now.... what I came here for was... it's M awards time. The Perish would appreciate any votes our way from you folks out there that see we're trying hard. simply click " other " under any catagory you think we might apply to.... then type " The Perish " in the textbox. Thank you in advance to all that vote for us ! cheers. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=JK6m0EOy0xJiMvd60Uf6Lg_3d_3d - Sat, 31 Jan 2009 3:09am Edited: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 3:09am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | No worries. Hr. Hell still thinks his opinion counts haha! I like his comment aboout "since high school", he's still in grade 4, playing 'dress-up like your favorite rockstar'. But I would like to hear his awesome drumming. - Sat, 31 Jan 2009 3:13am Edited: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 3:28am | ||
| Jl User Info... | y'know I was almost defending the perish in my previous comments; but now I realise what I have a problem with. Nothing personal; but Bruce's quips are pretty stupid. Everyone has their opinions; so dont shit on them if they dont like your drumming, just pass it off and leave it there. So now bruce starts up another flame war consisting of little boys tossing shit rocks at each other. My suggestion; Bruce, dont post for your band... let jeff do the talking. - Sat, 31 Jan 2009 9:11am | ||
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| Mr. Hell User Info... | Hey, Bruce. It's not a personal attack. I'm just stating what I hear. Didn't mean to make you so upset. I play bass, guitar and do some vocals. I practice to be sure I can do these things competently. So instead of using your energy to chase me around the board and prove a point that no one besides you cares about, why not focus that energy toward practicing so I can't say that your drumming is inadequate? I don't play drums, but if I did I would definitely make sure I could pull off rolls in time and cleanly. Impressive that you jam at 10:30 in the morning. I guess that makes it okay for your skills to be poor because you put in the extra effort. If you are getting so much positive feedback, why would my comment matter? Does it hit too close to the truth for you to just get better and prove me wrong? JL is right. Let Jeff rep your band. At least he doesn't come across as bitter. Living well is the best revenge. Now I am going to put on my Gene Simmons outfit again. *edit* I was a little harsh on your drumming, Bruce. To be fair, I should clarify that I think your straight beats don't suck. They are average and fairly in time. Your fills still suck though. - Sat, 31 Jan 2009 9:02pm Edited: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 2:47pm | ||
| laprider User Info... | OH man can't we all just ..ROCK ON. hmmmm Jeff, you sound better I think, keep to this round of med's ( Not meant to be mean). Keep at it, fuck the haters....just please, please come all the way back to us. I know its one of many, but earth really is a good planet. Just play, drop the whole other charade....I really mean this, you seem more focused, less wingy and actually do seem to be somewhat making an actual legit start to the whole band thing. Everything else is dumb save on zepplin, keep yer giddy dream's inside, its where the belong.... I don't go telling people I really just want to tap dance! oh shit? Bruce! You actual sound like a bitter old pussy fart, go fuck off....and hey nice kit...they stopped setting drums up like that in 1978, arms get tired mucH. sorry your responses just don't amount to nothing more then.. wwwwaaaa good luck jeff, please don't really become a pilot, I fly too much. No lets all do the bully thing....ignore it, it always goes away, I'd much rather just see your name on a gig poster for a legit show. I'd pay, I'd come....that's kind of what bands do here on the 3 rock. peace Jeff bruce don't even bother! - Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:36pm | ||
| Lucius User Info... | lol, if you want to audition, have all your friends join our group first, then we'll think about it!! Priceless!!! http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=48260372917 - Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:24am | ||
| J. Peatman User Info... | I think Jeff and the board Bruce Graham are the same person. - Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:37pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | yup. You got me. I'm actually able to play drums, guitar and sing all at once. I even have the ability to make it really look like two people playing two instruments on stage. When really, you and I both know that it's just me going back and forth so fast on stage that it LOOKS like two people. Shit... now everyone knows that Bruce doesn't exist and I have fooled them all on stage. Thanks a lot man ! What's next... you going to let them in on the fact that Devon doesn't exist either ? He's an imaginary bass player right... I play his parts on stage at the same time as guitar and drums and singing... and I even speak for them... because they don't exist. yea. sure dude. ok. Now who's delusional ? and Lucius, not sure if you're aware how facebook works... but you HAVE to join a group to post anything in it. I didn't design facebook. But I'm glad you find their site design priceless. makes me wonder if you're thinking of trying out for the spot ? - Mon, 2 Feb 2009 2:02pm | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | and J Peatman, why are you always being a dick to me when I've never done anything to you or ever met you ? In fact quite the opposite. Maybe you've forgotten but a long time ago I wrote you a message on myspace complimenting your band... and " I " sent " you " a friend request on myspace. YOU accepted it, and I have continued to support your band and advertise you guys on OUR myspace page the entire time you've been slagging away at me. I could have deleted you guys a long time ago. So maybe have a little respect for the fact that I've got some balls and I'm trying hard for my own thing. Your band is a different type of music and is in no way comparable to what we do. So just remember that next time you feel like throwing some trash words about The Perish my way. - Mon, 2 Feb 2009 2:11pm Edited: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 2:16pm | ||
| Lucius User Info... | and Lucius, not sure if you're aware how facebook works... but you HAVE to join a group to post anything in it. I didn't design facebook. But I'm glad you find their site design priceless. Jeff, your reading comprehension sucks today. I was pointing out that you are making the potential client invite their "entire friends" list before s/he even gets to try out. From your own facebook site-> invite your entire friends list to the groups.... and then kick back and wait. If you're what we're looking for... PRICELESS!!! I can not try out for your band because (you can choose a reason that fits your liking): 1) I don't really enjoy the music, although I do dig your voice 2) You guys talk to much smack and deliver very little 3) I retired 4) I don't have any friends to invite, therefore I can not try out! If anyone else can think of reasons for me not trying out, then I'd like to hear them please. Cheers, Lucius - Mon, 2 Feb 2009 2:19pm | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | inviting friends to our group would show they want the spot and are willing to work for it. is it wrong of me to seek a guitarist who's going to put in effort ? silly me :( - Mon, 2 Feb 2009 2:23pm | ||
| Lucius User Info... | invite your entire friends list to the groups.... and then kick back and wait. If you're what we're looking for then we'll call you, if not, then we just got a bunch new people to spam without doing any work at all! Cheers, Lucius - Mon, 2 Feb 2009 2:37pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Another reason not to try out is because they jam at 10:30 in the morning. Who the hell does that? - Mon, 2 Feb 2009 3:42pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | People without jobs? - Mon, 2 Feb 2009 9:31pm | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | We jam at 10:30AM because I work nights and Jeff works afternoons. If I we didn't have jobs, we'd be able to devote 18hrs a day to rehersal. Many of you devote 18hrs a day to surfing livevic. Get jobs. Oh, and Mr. Hell, I'm so glad you have endless hours to spend with your instruments. It's really worked for you. Now that you're such a HUGE SUCCESS, maybe I'll hear you on the radio. I on the other hand don't have endless hours to spend on my instruments; you wouldn't know, but responibilities sometimes have a way of eating up the day. Stay proud and keep on bitchin' me out. :)) - Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:38pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | so Lucius, I'm not sure if you're suggesting that I suck at promoting my band.... or if you're suggesting that I'm brilliant ??? I am writing the title track for our next album right now... use your delusions ! - Tue, 3 Feb 2009 2:51am | ||
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| Lucius User Info... | so Lucius, I'm not sure if you're suggesting that I suck at promoting my band.... or if you're suggesting that I'm brilliant ??? Jeff, that doesn't surprise me. Cheers, Lucius - Tue, 3 Feb 2009 8:10am Edited: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 8:11am | ||
| Jl User Info... | if it makes you feel better, bruce, I have a job and still find time to read this specific thread for shits and giggles. and once again, i vote for bruce not being in the public eye for the band!!!(fucking drummers) - Tue, 3 Feb 2009 9:10am | ||
| Mike S. User Info... | whattya mean, I thought Mr Hell drove around all day in a garbage truck practicing his vocals and bass? - Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:16am Edited: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:17am | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | At least Bruce is conceding that he needs to practice. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery. Maybe some lessons would do you good. I don't practice bass or guitar more than 6 hours a week and that seems to be just the right amount for me to perform well enough to not be told I need to practice. I practice vocals whenever I am driving around (not in a garbage truck as Mike claims...too noyesey). You may not have heard me on the Q or the Zone, but you may have seen me on Muchmusic. Or maybe not. You probably never watched the metal show on there. I don't recall claiming I am a huge success. I've done satisfactory for what I would want to achieve. There is more I would like to do. Working on it. One thing I don't do is come on Live Vic and claim I am going to tour with Led Zeppelin or put on $40,000 stage shows and have the biggest band in the world. Just improve your skills and allow Jeff to be the voice for you guys. You aren't helping your cause. - Tue, 3 Feb 2009 2:09pm | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | - Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:36pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | People are sending you nasty emails? That is uncalled for. I disagree with that. This is but a message board. Taking it to emails makes it personal. - Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:07am | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | Hey JDL; where did I say that anybody "couldn't do" something? And since you say you've worked with me then you must know how I would react if some guy came into the studio talking shit about deals with Sony, Universal et al without being able to back it up. I would council reticence doncha think? The Perish SHOULD continue to do their music as they see fit and whether or not people like me like it shouldn't concern them much. It wouldn't concern ME much. When they actually get a label deal they can crow about it all they want. But not until then. - Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:44am | ||
| J. Peatman User Info... | Jeff from the Parish: Read a little better. Obviously you and Bruce are two individuals. I just jokingly suggested that his message board personification was actually you. After all, you have posted under different names before just to falsely plug your band. Not sure why your second post was necessary. Yeah I have expressed colorful criticism before. This has nothing to do with my band. This is not band vs band. Frankly I don't see where you got that idea from. Even more clearly: No opinion I express on this board is on behalf of Black Lotus. Nor have I ever said that "we" are better than "you", which would be a ridiculous comparison, just like you pointed out. As for Myspace; I don't run the band's account or check friend requests. And personally one more add and our name on someone's friends list (of a whopping 17) means very little to me. - Thu, 5 Feb 2009 3:25am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | Anyway, I don't know which of you had your GF send me this childish email (no doubt the same knob who disabled my password), but it just goes to show what a snivelling coward you really are. If you wanna attack me on a personal level, at least have bigger parts than the pustulating skank you had send me this pathetic email, and do it face to face. >Rianna Cyr > >You are a loser. You work nights at a dead end job. >You drum for the worst band on the island. > >You are a loser. >You get very mad and sling insults that make no sense. > >You are a loser. > >Loser. *Edit Oh yeah, If you have trouble READING my posts, buy a dictionary, goof. - Thu, 5 Feb 2009 5:44am Edited: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 5:48am | ||
| Sati User Info... | "the same knob who disabled my password" Bruce, what part of response to this did you not understand? From my reply to you dated 2/3/09: Hello Bruce, The e-mail address you normally use on LiveVic is [removed to protect privacy]. The password has not been disabled or changed as far as I can tell, and nothing was sent to you regarding that account. The e-mail you got last night was about the creation of a NEW account for the e-mail address [removed to protect privacy], which you used to post to the message board at 10:38pm. I don't know why the password given wouldn't work. Your post went through, so I'd imagine it did work.. If there's still a problem just go to the login screen to where it says "Forgot Your Password?" and have it resend. Its pretty simple to figure out. As far as I can tell, there has been no tampering with your account. Our mods have absolutely NO ACCESS to the system which controls your account, so it simply isn't possible. - Thu, 5 Feb 2009 6:35am | ||
| Jl User Info... | zipp, I didn't want to come across as offensive and sorry if it sounded that way. I think your advice and experience superceeds that of what you have spoken about the perish. Sure they make all these "shit talk" claims with nothing to back them up... but should that really bother someone like you, who's had the experience and knows what its like to succeed and (like everyone else) fail(not that you've "failed" but im sure you've seen others that you've worked with, who've had the aspiration of playing a big arena show get cut down to little pieces because some guy feels its the right thing to do, and that's to shed their opinion of the reality of the music business). Now, as you said, if someone came into your studio spouting off; Im sure you would disagree and give them a hard dose of reality. But in a business sense; that would detract people from coming to you too. Who wants an engineer/producer that constantly jabbers about what you can and cant do. For the record; Im not talking SOLEY about this thread, but most of the threads where you've tried to prove them wrong and come off like the annoying kid who's always pointing fingers and telling everyone they're wrong. Its just funny to see so many established musicians get so riled up when someone ON A MESSAGEBOARD makes a claim, like the perish, and all these working/experienced musicians get their panties in a knot trying to tell them otherwise. That's just from the observations I've seen through the various threads on THIS messageboard. Zipp, I think you are great at what you do; and am thankful I had the oppourtunity(once) to work in your old studio. You wont remember me; as you probably meet tons of people but I did record with you at sea of shit and had a blast. Again, I dont mean this in a negative way; just a simple observation and my opinion about this whole matter. ps, maybe bruce's age is finally getting to him:P forgetting the p/w's is the first sign of AAAAAGGGGEEE!!! - Thu, 5 Feb 2009 2:44pm Edited: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 2:46pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... |  for the record.. Bruce did NOT forget his password. SATI He was sent an email from live vic stating his password had been deleted and he was issued a numerical temporary password in that email. He did not request his password to be changed. So he then went to log in and neither the new password he was issued nor the old one worked. He had to open a new account. sorry Sati, but that didn't happen all by itself now did it ? but thanks for helping bruce look into it. and why do people speak about us like we have no experience ? I've been in working bands for about 17 years, and been doing shows and music festivals for about 12. I've been cutting tracks in studios for others and myself for about 15 years. I've done 2 Canadian tours with another act. I've jammed with Kim Mitchell. Perish Productions has been doing music for documentaries, voice overs, and rock music since 1997. I could go on here but won't bother. Bruce has been in the game a while too and has had the pleasure of jamming and hanging out regularly with Randy Bachman and several others who seem to think Bruce is a great drummer. The only new face we have is Devon who is 19 and full of awsome raw tallent that will blow your freakin' mind at our next show. Also, so no one can say I'm high on myself... I have been taking notes on opinions posted here on our new album. Everyone that has proven to me to have some actual sound knowledge.... made some points about the mix.. so yet again I am changing it to cater to public opinion. I will post more free samples when it's finished. ROCK ON VICTORIA !! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:40pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | All your experience shows through your music. It really speaks for itself. - Mon, 9 Feb 2009 1:02am | ||
| Curmudgeon ROcker User Info... | Jeff - did you and Kim try "Soda" or "Within Context of the Moon?" Did he still have the skullet? I betcha don't know who Pie Dubois is! (and don't look him up either!) - Mon, 9 Feb 2009 2:55pm | ||
| Pierce User Info... | I toured with Kim Mitchell when playing bass for AC. Did about 5 or 6 shows with him or something like that. He is a phenominal guitarist. I had a blast watching him rock out with his now bald head. Until Jeff mentioned Jamming with Kim as a credit I didn't realise I was sitting on such a resume for myself. Watch out Grammys. - Mon, 9 Feb 2009 4:53pm | ||
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| Mr. Hell User Info... | 'Branscombe Richmond' is a majestic song, as are 'Van Full Of Retards' and 'I Got Athlete's Foot Showering At Mike's' To play in that band is a huge privilege. - Wed, 11 Feb 2009 3:32pm | ||
| Pierce User Info... | Sadly no. My AC experience was with Armchair Cynics. But a van full of retards does ring a bell. - Wed, 11 Feb 2009 5:12pm Edited: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 5:13pm | ||
| Zippgunn User Info... | Well JI, the only reason I care enough to even post is that Jeff is in a position of trust and even mentorship in his position as a guitar teacher at FAME in Sooke (a job he seems to do well by all accounts). If he tells tall tales about his many major league successes to his students the way he does on this board then IMO he is doing them a disservice. Just my opinion. - Wed, 11 Feb 2009 8:14pm | ||
| Sati User Info... | JEFF ?? As I said I can't see evidence of any e-mail going out to his original account from us. If you'd like to forward the actual e-mail from LiveVic to either me or Nev, we can look into it further. I don't understand why Bruce didn't just reply to me about the matter til we could sort it out. It sounds like it might be just a technical thing, not part of a massive conspiracy against you guys. - Thu, 12 Feb 2009 8:13pm | ||
| Chopper User Info... | You'll want to have him cut/paste the header info from that email as well Sati and put the info into the email they send so you can see where the email originated from. Header info doesn't get retained when forwarding, even if you attach the actual mail. - Thu, 12 Feb 2009 8:32pm | ||
| RobW. User Info... | I think Zolar X did the whole alien deal in like, 1974. - Fri, 13 Feb 2009 2:32pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | zipp. Fair enough, I didn't know that much into the whole debaucle. It just seemed like you were targetting him to make him look bad; and you, yourself, are a reasonable guy. That's all. - Fri, 13 Feb 2009 3:00pm | ||
| rekoyle User Info... | "Jeff is in a position of trust and even mentorship" I heard he rips off his friends, talks shit about his boss and has screaming spaz attacks. - Wed, 1 Apr 2009 9:49am | ||
| Yesser User Info... | Jeff is a joke. He gave me a lesson once and told me that Samick guitars were definately the top-of-the-line guitars. He said he gets 15% off of Samicks because he plays them in his band. - Thu, 2 Apr 2009 3:58pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | hey everyone, been away for a while. rekoyle, you obviously don't know me at all or you would know I'm a nice honest guy who is fair to others, I don't rip anyone off, I don't talk shit about anyone behind their back ( I don't have a boss ) and the only screaming spaz attacks I have are on my guitar, live on stage. Yesser... you've proven how many times now that you've never met me and you're a complete jack-ass ? anyways I just came here to clairify rumours because I'm getting a lot of emails. yes it's true. Bruce Graham was abducted. We are now looking for a new Drummer and a rythm guitarist. Message me if you're interested. Serious inquiries only please. thanks Rock On Victoria !!! ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() - Fri, 3 Apr 2009 6:02am | ||
| Yesser User Info... | You were not getting a lot of emails about Bruce because no one gives a shit. - Fri, 3 Apr 2009 1:08pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | Well at lets it wasn't me with the total douche bag retort.I thought about it though,but it's just getting to old.Livevic need some new blood, some new controversy. - Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:27pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | yes, I agree. rippin' on me for absolutely nothing is getting old and boring. Especially when all I said is we're looking for a new drummer. peace earthlings. - Sun, 5 Apr 2009 3:02pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | and yesser, you claim to hate us, yet you sit here and read and write about us daily. You're a joke and even some of the more professional slaggers on here have called you on it. Just because you " hate us and our music " doesn't mean the 800 people in our facebook group and our family and friends don't care.... I've answered over 150 emails in the last 4 weeks about Bruce quitting. The fact that we're looking for a new drummer has some people mad, some dissapointed, and some wishing us well. I personally don't give a rats ass what you think. As far as I'm concerned you talk about us so much and take such an interest... I've got you on our " biggest fans " list. Rock on Victoria ! - Sun, 5 Apr 2009 3:11pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | Thanks everyone who emailed about the drummer wanted. We have just chosen our new drummer and will be back out gigging by the end of this month. We now have a well known professional drummer who might be the ingredient we needed to take this to this next level. I could give you his name now, but that would spoil all the fun. I will announce our new drummer along with the other great news.... when the time is just right. Rock On Victoria !! - Sun, 5 Apr 2009 5:04pm Edited: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 5:05pm | ||
| Tyler User Info... | I'm in the Facebook group. Hahaha. Rock On Victoria !! - Sun, 5 Apr 2009 6:33pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | You resurrected John Bonham with an alien life beam and hired him seeing as you didn't get to play with Led Zeppelin like you said you were going to, didn't you? - Sun, 5 Apr 2009 6:51pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | 800 people on your facebook? That's how you are monitoring your success? lol. How about radio play? CD sales? None....and.....NONE. I don't shit on you for no reason Jeff. I started shitty on you after you gave me a lesson and talked so much garbage I couldn't resist. You told me you were signed to SONY. You said you were endorsed by SAMICK. You also said that you have gigs as a sound producer on many Feature films. I personally took you as mildly mentally challenged after I saw you taping hand colored alien propaganda outside my house in Sooke. Had I had no dealing with you Jeff I never would call you on it. New drummer? How about just using a Metronome? Sounds about as technical as the crappy recording I have. - Sun, 5 Apr 2009 7:02pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | How come Bruce didn't work out? - Mon, 6 Apr 2009 5:47pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | Howdy folks.... well first let me say yesser.. I'm now going to start ingnoring you completely. I'm not even going to read your posts. I'm hoping that others will join me, and will become like that episode of South Park where all the kids in South Park start ignoring Cartman to the point where Cartman starts to believe he is dead, and needs to do a bunch of good deeds before he can pass onto the next world. Sweeeeeeet. I really just came to say... Don't count your chicks before they've hatched. Our new drummer has decided today that with his other two working bands, he would not be able to dedicate himself to our group enough. So.. he has decided to say so now rather than dissapoint us later, which I respect. So... looks like were on the hunt for a drummer again if anyone out there wants to apply or suggest someone. Bruce decided on his own to quit. Based on decisions he's made for himself. Since we were just about to submit the album to Delinquent Records, I personally think his desision was poor. Anyone else want to step up and have some fun ? - Mon, 6 Apr 2009 8:19pm | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | PS - the new drummer ( who ever that might be ) will get to re-record the drum tracks on the new album so they will have their name on it when it gets submitted to delinquent records. and yesser... before I ignore you completey, I don't care where you live, you suck and you're full of shit. I never gave you one guitar lesson. We only book by the month at the music store I sub-contract myself out to. If you had taken one guitar lesson from me, which you couldn't have.... I would have been asking you questions like... " how long have you been playing ? " " what type of music do you listen to ? " " is there any songs or techniques you'd like to get into right away ? " I would not be sitting there telling you fairy-tales about myself. I am serious about teaching, and all my students love what I do for them... So quit with the BS already. I'll bet after ONE imaginary guitar lesson, you must be so super awsome on the guitar, that you felt you didn't need a months worth of lessons. yea... that must be it. I have never said I am signed to sony. I said I will be. I am still saying that. I don't give up and I do have some ducks in a row, or I wouldn't say I did. I have NEVER in my life claimed to be endorsed by Samick or any other guitar manufacturer. EVER. I have never claimed to be the sound producer on any Feature Film. Your fish tales keep getting bigger. I have said that I have done Voice overs for films... none of which were very major. I have also audition for several childrens TV shows doing voice overs for the Fox Network, but I didn't get the gig. This is all I have ever said. All the songs were recorded to tempo maps so I'm sure the new drummer whoever that might be will have no trouble laying down new tracks... so don't worry about it. Now go crawl back under your rock, and don't bother writing anything back, because I'm not going to even read it. I'll bet other people already skip over your posts like they're not even there. and Tyler, if you really are in our facebook group... thanks for the support ! Cheers. - Mon, 6 Apr 2009 8:32pm Edited: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 9:01pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | Jeff. I have never said I only received one lesson from you. After sitting through a lesson where you talked about Sony and Samick I had to post to try and burst your delusional bubble. You also told me that you had gigs with movies and you sell your samples regularly. You don't even reply saying "No, never happened"......instead, you try and use your employers scheduling habits as your defense. Jeff. You gave me lessons. You sucked. I had to listen to your endless ego driven banter. Now go on and use your extensive forensic investigative abilities to figure out why you are such a douchebag. Jeff. When you move out of your Moms house we may take you a bit more serious.For years you have said that you are signed to Universal and SONY. You have said for years that you are going to rock out big time. It hasn't happened. And it will never happen. You are too busy posting every single last thing that has happened in your mock band. - Tue, 7 Apr 2009 1:44pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | "Now go crawl back under your rock, and don't bother writing anything back, because I'm not going to even read it. I'll bet other people already skip over your posts like they're not even there." I bet Jeff reads and responds to the post above this one. - Tue, 7 Apr 2009 3:09pm | ||
| KRIEG User Info... | "I bet Jeff reads and responds to the post above this one." I'll doubly bet he reads yours and responds to you too. - Tue, 7 Apr 2009 5:50pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | He has already posted once since saying he will ignore me. He types a whole paragraph about ignoring me. Then he comes back to his computer 5 mins later and rants off on me. - Tue, 7 Apr 2009 6:08pm | ||
| sincitydevil User Info... | Jeff...you can claim until you're blue in the face that you did not tell people these things about yourself and your band but people can see through the bullshit. I mean...someone very close to me who has lessons at FAME told me they overheard you being asked by your student what famous people you knew, and to clarify you told them you are good friends with Motley Crue. This very well could be...but given the big fish stories you have told in your past, and given your delusions of grandeur when it comes to your band...my personal guess is that it's a load of feces. Whatever...doesn't really matter, but you can't sit there and say you don't say or do these things when it's very apparent that you do. Moreover...your students are there to learn guitar....not about you, your lies, or your views on aliens or nostradamus. If you put half of the energy you put into replying to posts on here and trying to play Mr. Big Shot into your music maybe then it wouldn't suck so much. Just my two cents... - Tue, 7 Apr 2009 6:16pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... |  Than Jeff's head is large. - Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:26pm Edited: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:35pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | I am a piece of shit? For replying to his nonsense? It's all true. So bite me. I should sue him and his employer for charging me $$$ to sit through a session of The Jeff. - Wed, 8 Apr 2009 2:06pm Edited: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 2:05pm | ||
| JDL User Info... | why do you guys care so much about what "jeff" talks about? Aside from Yesser, to whom I know is doing this to get a rise out of Jeff(anyone can see that). Its like he's offended you all by talking big... Personally I feel sorry for someone who has to resort to lying to make themselves seem larger than life(ie, Ian Thow). But the last thing Im gunna do is rip him apart on a MESSAGEBOARD. I get a laugh from both sides of this "arguement" of who's opinion of what is 'right or wrong'. But again, WHO REALLY CARES?????????????? Unless you have absolutely no life, no job, no gf/wife/significant other, and nothing better to do with your time... to which I would feel sorry for you too. But that's just my take. - Wed, 8 Apr 2009 3:01pm | ||
| KRIEG User Info... | "I get a laugh from both sides" Then this thread and all it's posts have served their purpose. "WHO REALLY CARES?????????????? Evidently you do, by taking the time to add your 2 cents. - Wed, 8 Apr 2009 4:07pm | ||
| JDL User Info... | I care enough to see that both sides are basically a waste of time. Yesser just keeps egging on Jeffy and Jeffy keeps egging on Yesser.... wait a second... Yesser and Jeffy.... Jeffy and Yesser... THE SAME FUCKING PERSON! of course, I jest. - Wed, 8 Apr 2009 5:24pm | ||
| KRIEG User Info... | "...basically a waste of time." Says you. I'd argue that this thread has offered many LOL filled minutes to the Live Vic community. Hardly a waste, IMO. - Wed, 8 Apr 2009 5:45pm | ||
| JDL User Info... | ok ok, fair enuff... it certainly has provided MANY 'LOL' moments... much like this one... LOL - Wed, 8 Apr 2009 8:13pm | ||
| Lucius User Info... | Yup, its like a car accident. Cheers, Lucius - Thu, 9 Apr 2009 8:44am | ||
| steve User Info... | it kinda reminds me of the daytime soaps that my Mom loves to watch... except not as much of the mushy stuff.. http://www.myspace.com/thecloudsbelow - Thu, 9 Apr 2009 8:54am | ||
| Yesser User Info... | For those of you who think I am lying. Think about this. 1. I say that he told me he does work for FOX and Feature films. Don't you think that its a rather large coincidence that Jeff admit's ...... "have said that I have done Voice overs for films... none of which were very major. I have also audition for several childrens TV shows doing voice overs for the Fox Network, but I didn't get the gig. This is all I have ever said" Think about it. Maybe I should get work as a psychic? 2. I say that he told me he is signed to Sony. Jeff adds here..... "I have never said I am signed to sony. I said I will be." Again. A BIG coincidence again. If he says these things on a message board, imagine what he says in person. Ok guys? I am lying am I? He admits to saying everything, but differently. Can't you see this? If Jeff doesn't want me replying to his nonsense, he shouldnt bullshit all the time and place it on the INTERNET. Jeff should shush his mouth and none of this would happen. It's not as If i am accusing him of any crimes. I am accusing him of running his mouth of bullshit. - Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:26pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | I seriously can't keep up with what people say I said or who claims to know lots about me, yet I've never met them. To me it's all a joke. I wonder if Ozzy or someone gives a shit what people claim he said or did or who claims to know lots about him ? I doubt it. I know I don't. however I will say that some people take what I say and put their own spin on it. Like... sincitydevil, your friend must have mis-heard me or is stretching his story to impress you. I never said I am good friends with Motley Crue. I have said that the president of delinquent records is good friends with them and has worked on several of their albums. Because of that, I shook hands with Vince Neil once. Big deal. I don't know him. I said hi, nice to meet you. Then I left. Also, the girl I'm dating right now just got devorced. Her husband really was/is good friends with the boys from Motley Crue, and she left him because they're all serious drug users now and her husband was a total fuck-up because of them, so I don't think I would want to know them or hang or be their friends. Still looking for a drummer.... anyone seriously interested ? - Thu, 9 Apr 2009 1:49pm | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | my 40 + guitar students think I do a fine job. Some have stuck around for over 2 years with me, so I think if I was not a good teacher I wouldn't have dedicated students like that. Don't harp on my teaching skills when you have never had a lesson from me. I teach with encouragement as my main tool. I remember having a discouraging teacher when I was a little kid. I don't ever talk about myself or what I do or have done during a lesson unless someone directly asks me. Even then I wouldn't elaborate while they sit there for a paid lesson. People that actually know me know I'm not high on myself, or conceated, and I care more about my students progress than any other guitar teacher that I've ever met. I even get birthday presents and christmas presents from most of my students, so I think they're pretty happy with what I do for them. I even spend my own time working on lessons or getting tabs for my students. I don't talk about my band, or aliens, or Motley Crue, or Nastradomis ( wtf as if ) during someone's lesson. That's obsurd. I think it's funny how people are always upset with what I did or said, yet... they weren't there and have no idea if it's true at all. It's like the telephone game you used to play around the campfire at a scouts meeting or something. Everyone whispers the story to the person on the right, but each person puts a little change or spin on it to fuck it up, and by the time the story has gone around the circle..... It's totally fucked up and not the same story at all. It's a joke. but hey.... as long as everyone's having fun.. I couldn't care less. : ) drummers interested in laying down the new drum tracks and getting signed to Delinquent records... hit me up on the website. Cheers. http://theperish.com - Thu, 9 Apr 2009 2:03pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | and is it just me or is " Kill em All " just an awsome album ? everyone pull it out and crank it. It needs a worthy comeback ! - Thu, 9 Apr 2009 2:21pm | ||
| laprider User Info... | Jeff, could you shoot me your guys #... I want what you smoke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Thu, 9 Apr 2009 3:48pm | ||
| KRIEG User Info... | Hi Jeff. A question for you. After browsing around your killer Perish website, I read the article where you claim The Perish will be heralded as the next Pink Floyd. This article was dated 2002. Do you still feel this way, given that it's 7 years later and you remain little more than a joke band on small town message board? - Thu, 9 Apr 2009 5:42pm | ||
| yesser User Info... | Jeff you need help. Your new girlfriend just got divorced because her husband was friends with the crue? You are comparing yourself to Ozzy? Delinquent Records??? Oh my fucking god. And some people here believe that I am lying when mentioning what Jeff has said to me. Jeff is F-U-C-K-E-D Up! - Thu, 9 Apr 2009 6:50pm | ||
| sumyungai User Info... | Jeff- is it just me or have you plunged a knife into Bruce's back? It seems that only two months ago you were extremely proud of the album, had announced it's release and touted and defended it ad nauseum, yet here you are now stating that the album will be retracked and remixed with the (sic) new drummer? I've never met Bruce and I've certainly never cared for the tone of his posts here on LiveVic, however I think he deserves a little more from you than erasure. It seems that he was just as fervent about The Perish as you were, yet now you wish to erase him from history. Is it that you now feel that he sucks? Whatever occurred between you guys it's time to move on. The album is out, I even have a copy. Write a new album's worth of material with your new drummer and get on with your life. Re- releasing the same album again and again is kinda ludicrous, and smacks of a personality disorder. I think anyone would have to question your integrity and I've gotta wonder if you're the kind of guy who cuts faces out of photographs? - Thu, 9 Apr 2009 7:44pm Edited: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 7:54pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | hey, well yea, I was happy. Bruce apparently isn't. I didn't plan this, it was Bruce's last minute decision, not mine. I only want to re-do the drums for two reasons, neither of which are because I didn't like what Bruce did or anything like that. The fact is, if I submit the album to the label and then say, " by the way... That guy isn't our drummer anymore. " then it leaves them wondering.... is it going to sound as good with a new drummer ? They would be guessing. Also, all the bio photos and album cover and photos have Bruce in them, yet he quit the band. To be fair to the new drummer too, I think they should get to say they played on the album I'm about to promote, and feel like they're a real part of the band. Not just some temporary fill in. And the last reason is... I don't have permission to use Bruce's work, so I couldn't use it if I wanted to. I didn't plan for this, so I'm just going with the flow. And no I don't cut peoples heads out. lol. Bruce cut himself out. If you want to know more on Bruce's reason's for quitting you'll have to email him, because I'm not going to elaborate on the situation here. Basically he has a good job that he likes with lots of benifits, and he decided he didn't want to give that up for the band. That's the jist of it. I am a very fair person and wouldn't just turn on a band member and cut him/her out. It's a team effort to get to the top. I know that more than anyone. So.... anyone out there that plays drums interested in joining the team ? - Thu, 9 Apr 2009 8:00pm Edited: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 8:02pm | ||
| sumyungai User Info... | Unless The Perish has expressly granted Bruce power of veto, he has no say as to whether or not the album is released (besides, you already have released it and his posts here demonstrate his consent). As long as you make all reasonable efforts to pay him any royalties you're good. Your other reasons seem kinda flimsy... - Thu, 9 Apr 2009 8:19pm Edited: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 8:27pm | ||
| Lucius User Info... | Should the album take off, getting the new drummer on there is a smart thing to do business wise. Cheers, Lucius EDIT: I actually realized this is not the album you would be releasing on a major label (the quality is just not there). You would be re-recording everything anyway. So there atcually no reason to redo this version with the new drummer. - Thu, 9 Apr 2009 8:36pm Edited: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 8:38pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | You should be relieved that he quit. Now you can get a better drummer to perform better tracks. - Thu, 9 Apr 2009 8:54pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | well, I too think it's a good business decision to have the drummer on the album, be the same drummer ready to play live and support that album. I agree a major label would want to re-record anyways, but to show them we're ready and stable.... we really have to be. Not in the middle of a drummer swap. How would they know how it's going to sound if they have to guess ? they wouldn't. They would just say " NEXT ! " and that would be that. I don't think allowing the new drummer to be a part of the team and actually record his work on the album is a flimsy reason at all. I think it's not only fair to him/her.... but is a wise business decision. I have been told this is the right move from the people in the industry that are going to help me promote this album, and I respect their views and knowledge. They know what is a good move and what isn't. I'll take their professional opinions without question. I think we could do one notch better with the sound quality anyways, so for me it will be fun to do again, and that's all I really do this for anyways. any drummers interested ? - Thu, 9 Apr 2009 9:18pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | " then it leaves them wondering.... is it going to sound as good with a new drummer ?" You are fucking kidding me? People....PLEASE. This can't be a reality. - Thu, 9 Apr 2009 9:43pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | "I think we could do one notch better with the sound quality anyways" NO WAY! Only a couple of months ago you said it was comparable to the GnR. Stop this insanity. - Thu, 9 Apr 2009 9:44pm | ||
| KRIEG User Info... | Jeff, kindly answer my inquiry. You=next Pink Floyd, yes or no? - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:03am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | All right you bunch of whining FUCKS!! You're SO unconcerned with the PERISH, that you spend every free moment on this site bitching about it? What a bunch of hypocrites!! Yes I quit the Perish. That's between me and Jeff. Not up for you GOOFS to interject your far fetched opnions on. If you don't like the album, TOO FUCKIN" BAD!! You don't like my drumming? Too FUCKIN' BAD!! Who the FUCK are YOU anyway? A bunch of ego-testical, self-ingrandized slaggers. Jeff has every right to promote his band here. Yes you can voice your opinions, but you ALL come across as WHINERS! As for YOU Mr. Hell. I was NOT "asking around about you" at LOGAN'S. I ran into a buddy who introduced me to a member of ACORN HELL. I asked "How's Mr. Hell?", his answer was; "He's VAPOUR", that's as far as the convesation about YOU went. So don't be so FUCKIN' HIGH and MIGHTY about your failure to live up to your musical success, because you're obviously not so IN DEMAND. You GOOFS are a bunch of self-rightious ass wipes. I left the PERISH because I have RESPONSABILITIES that require a better response than a 'MAYBE'. As for Jeff: I hope you find a suitable drummer. I'm sorry you felt you couldn't speak to me in a civil manner. I don't expect Devon would tolerate your screaming tirades either; and since you disregarded our written agreement I suspect you have no plans to repay the $1300.00 you owe me. - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:46am | ||
| sumyungai User Info... | Hey Bruce- All I was saying was that I thought that you were getting a raw deal by being cut out of an album that you obviously put a lot of effort into. Geez- did I mention personality disorders? - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:52am Edited: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:53am | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | wow Bruce. As you can tell from my posts I was trying to keep this civil. I didn't drag your name through any mud. How very un-professional. A little personal for the live vic board don't you think ? The only reason I ever raised my voice with you is because once again you were being a drunk asshole in my house when I politely asked you in the past to never come to my house drunk again. you were pressuring me about the tour date, and were getting very loud and not listening to a damn word I said. You insisted I had to give you tour dates right then and there I didn't have them for you. You were getting very loud and annoying and saying shit that was way out of line. Like " I need someone in the band that can get results ! " as if I don't bust my ass to do the very best I can to promote this band. you said " get with your contacts and get something going " as if I haven't been trying my very best to get it rolling. As if I can pull tour dates and the funding for it out of my ass without ever having submitting the album to the label yet. I was burried in trying to fix all your timing mistakes on the drums and make the drum tone better and I have a job too. But apparently your job is more important than mine or the hudreds of hours I've put into the recordings and web sites and promoting YOU and this band. You actually tried to get physical with me , drunk, in my own house, after I asked you 20 times to leave nicely, and then you actually demanded the masters of the recordings, and when I asked why... you said " so you don't have them " They're my songs ! I think I had the right to raise my voice and tell you to get the fuck out and go home ! I never said anyting about you not coming back when you're sober and sane, but you decided to quit. I've done all the work in this band. Organizing , promoting, websites, working deals, planning gigs, renting facilities.... and you know it. Devon knows it and appreciates my efforts plenty. He tells me so, which is not what you have been doing. Devon and I are getting along great and have written several new songs and we're having fun jaming as usual. I don't have to yell at Devon to get the fuck out of my house because he doesn't pull shit like that on me and try to get in my face all drunk. Just because some cop harrassed you that day you got hammered and took it out on me and you know it. Fact is you left the band that has done so much for you high and dry when they needed you most. Your total flip out at my house, and the one posted here proves that you have some issues that your guitarist/singer/keyboardist/promoter/friend?/manager/song writter/web master/recording engineer/producer/graphics artist/PR Rep. just can't help you with. You'll get your money but you've left me in an awkward position with everything, so you'll just have to be patient. Trying to make me look bad here won't help speed anything up, and well, doesn't do much for your own reputation there Bruce. I notice your email accusations of me keeping your chinise cymbal have stopped now. You must have found it in your cymbal bag right where I told you it was after I neatly packed up your drum kit for you. like I said, it was clear in my posts I was trying to keep it civil and did nothing to drag your name through even and inch of mud. You have already done and said things that are way out of line. Posting this crap on here makes me question your mental health all together Bruce. Fuckin' Chill out. Anyone with drum skills and less attitude want to work with a hard working rock band ? - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 2:41am | ||
| steve User Info... | i havent even read jeffs post yet.. sooo long.. but all i can say is that this just keeps getting better and better... the return of bruce.. phenomenal. 1300$ debt.. great twist. I wanna buy the rights to this whole mess and make it into a movie. (i will be played by Micheal Caine) - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 2:48am | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | oh and enjoy that $300 double kick pedal I bought you for Christmas there Bruce... even though I was broke and you know it. It's better than what you got me for christmas.... which was..... oh yea.. Nothing. you'll get your money. Merry fuckin' Christmas. - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 2:54am | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | Hey steve, if you could actually get a budget for such a film, I will play myself in the film for $35 per hour, and I'll GIVE you the licence to use our band name for free. lol. - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 2:58am | ||
| steve User Info... | deal! im gonna be bigger than speilberg... - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 3:01am | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | swwweeet. ( like in a Cartman voice ) - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 3:03am | ||
| sumyungai User Info... | How about Andy Dick to play Bruce Graham? (Can you get James Earl Jones to play me?) - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 7:32am Edited: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 7:36am | ||
| Yesser User Info... | Holy shit. LOSERS. Big Capital L. LOSERS. - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 8:31am | ||
| Yesser User Info... | "Anyone with drum skills and less attitude want to work with a hard working rock band ?" Jeff you have no band. None. Idiot. - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 8:32am | ||
| sumyungai User Info... | Steve Buscemi as Yesser! - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 8:46am | ||
| KRIEG User Info... | I just want to say thanks to Jeff and Bruce for making an otherwise rather dull message board very entertaining. Though you may both be awful musicians, you've certainly found your niche market in entertainment. - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 9:11am | ||
| Tambo User Info... | Yesser, you can stop, they're just doing it to themselves now. /popcorn - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:00am | ||
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| Lucius User Info... | Wow, I love this board!!! Cheers, Lucius - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:30am | ||
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| Yesser User Info... | I actually feel bad now. For a moment I thought that maybe he was playing with me as no one can be this injured from a personality disorder but he bounces back with shit no one can make up. - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:31pm Edited: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:31pm | ||
| laprider User Info... | hmm...wow...shamwow All kidding, fun and joking aside, as I have stated before this all does smack of someone with some "issues". I think this post should actually be pulled down, it really serves no purpose, there is NO Perish and it really is like picking at a scab. Jeff, buddy, do you have a good support network. I am NOT attacking you, you're general demeanor and your popping on here then disappearing leave me with some questions. personally I don't know you or really have any desire to. You are a fellow man so I do however have some concern about anyone that's in trouble. If you are really living in the world you see and believing the things that you post you must have real problems with relationships. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure most people on this board have all had the "Dream" to be huge. IT is not happening, it will not happen and I doubt you even really understand the business enough to even know how it happens. I'm sure you have some turmoil in your life so why not just find some peace or relief in music. For I guess about 7/8 years you have spouted off about this and that, and that I know of done 2 shows. All this time you could have just been jammin playing for the sake of music and the good it does one's soul. I can tell you as someone who at 41 has worked his fucking ass off in this business to finally actually be working legitemetly in management for one of the Most known acts in entertainment knows that NO SINGLE PERSON IN THE BUSINESS would deal with you. Sorry I know that hurt, shit I gave up on Living off just playing way back. Its a tuff go I did it for years. I'm probably the happiest motherfucker on the planet when I look at what I get paid to do you need some of that Jeff, shit come over bring an acoustic we'll hit the purple and play music for the sake of playing music. - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 1:02pm | ||
| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | well first of all I'm only 32. second I do play music just for fun, but try to take it further. nothing wrong with that. third I never give up, and that's why I'll make it happen. fourth, I handle relationships fine. If you read my post to Bruce you would see I did all I can with the situation. As far as knowing how the music industry works... well, that's something that's constantly changing, and I do my best to keep up. I have my ducks all in a row and I know where it's going to lead. I have the industry professionals behind me that I need, and that's all I need to know. Not what others " think " I'll be able to do with this album once the new drum tracks are layed down. and no, this is not reason enough in my books to call it quits. No one gave a shit about AC/DC until their 6th album. It's all about attitude, and by now you should all know that I will never quit. That's how you make it. How many bands have had drummer problems then recovered fully and then hit the mark ?? lots. I just found a nice $300 double kick on my porch this morning. Looks like Bruce felt he would return his Christmas present I gave him in order to say, " what ? you never gave me anything ! " you should have sold it if you wanted cash so bad Bruce. Devon's here now and we're about to write some songs. any serious drummers out there want to have a shot ?? Rock on Victoria !!! - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 2:34pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Hey, Rimmer...Kevin Smith can play me. "As for YOU Mr. Hell. I was NOT "asking around about you" at LOGAN'S. I ran into a buddy who introduced me to a member of ACORN HELL. I asked "How's Mr. Hell?", his answer was; "He's VAPOUR", that's as far as the convesation about YOU went. So don't be so FUCKIN' HIGH and MIGHTY about your failure to live up to your musical success, because you're obviously not so IN DEMAND." This made my weekend, and it's only Friday. So you asked Krieg how I am doing and he said that I am vapour. Krieg can verify this because he is the only other member of Acorn Hell. I heard differently from the guitarist of HOA as to what happened. Perhaps he can reiterate what he told me as I can't remember it word for word. As for the rest of your limp wristed attack...I surpassed any expectation I ever had as far as music goes. That's kinda cool. No complaints here. I'm as in demand as I need and want to be at this time of my life. Everything is going great and I don't have an embarrassing alcohol addiction that causes me to go to my bandmates' houses and try to get "physical" with them against their wishes. Whether it's violence or sex, it's not nice unless all parties agree to it. This thread has become one of my favorites ever on this board. - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 3:51pm | ||
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| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | LMAO ! where the hell do you guys find these pics ? halarious. - Fri, 10 Apr 2009 8:53pm | ||
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| Jeff From The Perish User Info... | hhhhaaaa haaaa. good one. - Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:56am | ||
| Jeff from The Perish User Info... | haaaa. - Sat, 11 Apr 2009 2:33am Edited: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 2:34am | ||
| CL User Info... | I feel strongly that this thread is one of the most significant cultural artifacts of all time. Although sometimes reading Jeff's posts does break my heart a little. - Sat, 11 Apr 2009 1:07pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | I was told today while joking about this flake Jeff that his is under treatment for Depression. I can understand now why his posts have gone the ways they have. - Sat, 11 Apr 2009 3:23pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | I am completely shocked that TrevCore isn't being sued for tampering with that photograph. - Sat, 11 Apr 2009 3:45pm | ||
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| Bruce Graham User Info... |  98% of the patrons at Logan's looked like Rob Halford. He's gay. - Sun, 12 Apr 2009 8:06pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | You say that like it's a bad thing. - Sun, 12 Apr 2009 9:10pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... |  Your village called They need there idiot back. - Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:04pm | ||
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| Yesser User Info... | They need THERE idiot back? My advice to Bruce. Just forget about Perish. File small claims for your 1300$. I just saw Jeff . He is significantly washed up. Christ. - Mon, 13 Apr 2009 9:43am | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | That $1300 should keep Bruce sauced up for a week or so. - Mon, 13 Apr 2009 2:39pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... |  Is this now the " Hating Bruce " thread. Cuz if it is then I think I should just shoot myself,for the thought of him with another tailpipe is to much to bare. - Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:23pm Edited: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:26pm | ||
| Yesser User Info... | I find it ironic how grimlord is poking at Jeff. Two hockey helmet wear'rs at their best. - Wed, 15 Apr 2009 7:59am | ||
| grimlord User Info... |  Photo of Yesser? A shit storm is coming your why.Get out your shitslicker cuz the shit is coming down like shit drop's.This shit will hit you so fast you wont have time to SHIT!This shit has gotten to thick for you to breath thruogh the shit smell, that you have overdosed on your own shit. - Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:55pm Edited: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 2:33am | ||
| Sati User Info... | And some peoople wonder why more women don't post to the board. - Thu, 16 Apr 2009 8:41pm | ||
| Lonemonk User Info... | The Van-city lifestyle must have hardened you *just* enough to continue putting up with it. The 'some people' you mentioned have long since left. Not all though, some of the roller-derby girls still pop by. Now that you mention it Sati, the sock-smell is pretty obnoxious and ubiquitous. - Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:01pm | ||
| Sati User Info... | I dunno, maybe I've become crusty, but most of it just cracks me up. And when I start caring Nev & Scott set me straight. - Fri, 17 Apr 2009 2:27pm | ||
| CL User Info... | I'm surprised (and titillated!) by the idea of any women at all visiting this board. - Fri, 17 Apr 2009 2:49pm | ||
| Sati User Info... | Well yes, thats why Perish threads are so popular here. You know that any time they post they're surely hordes of squealing, bikini-clad, fanclub/groupies lurking. It can't just be you guys tapping at the lever all day for your Perish fix and driving up those thread counts. Work it for the Perish fans! - Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:57pm | ||
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| Sati User Info... | haha, yeah but I don't miss the internet wierdos calling me up late at night. I suspect they're not really into live music. Maybe I'll find the pic of my eye again. If you'll post one of trevor corey! (and p.s. pls let mrs corey know its not necess to kick my ass) - Sun, 19 Apr 2009 3:08pm | ||
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| sumyungai User Info... | Hey Trev, do you just have harddrives full of this shit? - Sun, 19 Apr 2009 9:16pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | the surest sign that intelligent life exists somewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. .........dances with goats - Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:04pm | ||
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