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CD pressing suggestions?
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| wackakapow User Info... | Hey people, this is kind of a follow up to my thread regarding recording engineers, which brought us highly successful info (thanks for the suggestions). We've recorded the EP and it rules, but now we need to get it printed. Basically price is key, though quality is an issue. What are your experiences, and what do you think is a good number to start with? Does anyone have any experience with lightscribe burners/home-jobs as far as price goes? http://www.myspace.com/sanijav (gotta plug) - Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:45pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | I have some light-scribe experience, but I currently recommend away from it. It currently takes too long to print a CD label in that way. Even a few lines of straight text on a Lightscribe drives takes about 15-20min each! (I can write 5 CDs in that length of time) My suggestion is printable white CDs, and buy a Canon or Epson inkjet printer ( - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 9:23am | ||
| wackakapow User Info... | Yeah we were probably going to make two batches, a cheaper batch for promo (maybe carboard cases or something) and another for sale. It'd be sweet to make some money or at least break even, as well as spread the music around. What about copyright, did you bother buying a compilation copyright to register with SOCAN? - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:41am | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | No Socan registration. I'm not sure our original release would be elligable. We were not interested in any real insertion into the market-place per se. As a band, we leave the copyright enforcement up to Croatian terrorist(s). Its good to look into, especially if you try to get a wider distro and or radio play, etc. I'm not currently a member of Socan, so my knowledge of it runs out. - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:48pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... |  Try this link for those type of printers: http://www.dvshop.ca/printers/cdprinter.html -=- I know Garry Brainless bought the Stylus Photo R300 Printer, and he printed all the Remanes CDs, those look awesome. Anyhow, hope this helps. - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:57pm | ||
| wackakapow User Info... | It's starting to look like the pro plants are the way to go no matter how I cut it. Sonrise in Vancouver will do 500 for $1115, so just over 2 bucks a piece (before shipping), though it's not a double cd by any means. Whether or not we can make that many cds move is in question, though I think possible if things go well and we keep it aggressive. I was hoping to find a place in town that have a laser printer that could print onto those white blanks, but Sonrise is still looking cheaper even then. - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 1:46pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Always press about 100-200 CDs, if you run out of those get another 200 printed. It seems rather pointless to waste money, you wanna be able to pay off what it cost to make the CD, correct? I know the most surprizing sell out for a CD in this city was Boomtown's Garden City dubs, they pressed 1000 of those (apparently, I had to buy my copy used) and they all sold out. It's embarassing talking to someone down there and there so new to the store, they didn't even know a compilation CD existed. *sigh* Just a thought... - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 2:15pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | Is that for them to only make the CDs or also to print the inserts and 'stuff' them? Do they ship them to you entirely packaged? Its a bit of a catch-22 Griph, cause most places have a minimum order, and the price goes down with the more you buy. (Thus also potentially increasing profit per unit). 1000 would be difficult to get rid of in any reasonable period of time unless you're modest mouse, or hot hot heat. - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 3:06pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | ...Bandages, bandages You sure HotHotHeat could sell 1,000 CDs?!? :) - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 3:53pm | ||
| wackakapow User Info... | Yeah that's the whole shabang, Single-fold booklet, one side colour and one-side B+W, tray insert, silkscreened cds, and shiny plastic wrap. It was by far the best price we've seen yet, and I got the quote over the phone so it's not an internet-based clerical error. We're submitting our own design, so that's probably saving us a chunk (though I had to pay the artist). Most places I've checked seem to have a huge price drop after 500 cds (in this case $.60/per). 500 seems to be the first magic number, then 1000. We're not going to be able to get rid of 1000 (they're only EPs) without giving them out for free, but with 500 I think we can break even in sales pretty easily and then afford to use some for promotion. If not I'll just have to convince my grandparents to buy 200 cds. It's like selling chocolates for hockey. - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 4:19pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Marketing!!! - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 5:21pm | ||
| wackakapow User Info... | Nah, just being specific. I've been punching a lot of numbers the past couple days; the green money monster has usurped my mind - Wed, 22 Feb 2006 7:07pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | Wow, thats pretty good. I guarantee you can't do it that cheaply yourself, and even if you could in materials, your time would be worth nothing for about 2 months. Thats a pretty proper deal. Please let us all know how it goes so that anyone attempting the same things can hear about it. I would still consider doing 100 as a max on any of my future products, but I always knew that more than that would consume my life, so I'm glad there is affordable options out there. - Thu, 23 Feb 2006 2:32pm | ||
| wackakapow User Info... | I'll keep everyone posted; here's to hoping there aren't any wild hidden fees etc. - Sat, 25 Feb 2006 3:04am | ||
| wackakapow User Info... | Storm has already offered us a better price. Since we won that Jungle Room BotB, we're going to now be looking at less than a grand for 500. Still, keep Storm in mind; it's been the most honest and foreward salesmanship we've encouneterd. They made a point to contact us to let us know they had a better deal. I like that. That's good business. - Sat, 4 Mar 2006 1:32am | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | wackakapow writes: > I've been punching a lot of numbers the past couple days Poor numbers, what did they do to you?!? :) - Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:01am | ||
| brad User Info... | where are people getting the inserts printed and short run cd duplication done around here? I've done the "sit at my computer endlessly burning disks, copying/bending/folding covers etc" but that is tedious. I'd rather pay someone else to do it and have it look half decent. id prefer not go the route of the CD-R, but there is no way id run more than 100 disks to start, i'd rather do another 100 after (if) the first ones sell. I see the list of companies who offer such services in the resource section, but does anyone have any feedback of the completed product? cheers - Sun, 5 Mar 2006 7:42am | ||
| zakco User Info... | I'm not aware of any companies offering Pressed Audio CDs in runs of 100. Some companies offer 300 units as a minimum but most commercial orders carry a 500 minimum. Even then you're actually paying for 1000 inserts/traycards as that is generally the minimum for gang run printing. This is why 1000 units is only a few hundred dollars more than 500. The good news is that they keep the extra artwork on file and if/when you order a re-print of another 500 you only pay for the discs and assembly costs. So....bottom line if you only want 100 at a time you're going to be buying CD-Rs period. -Z- - Sun, 5 Mar 2006 9:28am | ||
| Kris North User Info... | evan rabby of company zero does runs of 100 its cost us like 320 or so to do 100 cds with full colour 4 page inserts. - Sun, 5 Mar 2006 9:38am | ||
| THE JAK User Info... | garry brainless from the ratsnest can print cd's and they look deadly.....try him - Sun, 5 Mar 2006 11:30am | ||
| duncan User Info... | hrp released an ep, and we got blank white cds and got a few friends to share some adult beverages and color on the cds... we only did a run of i think 100 for the ep, and it took one night to do all of that, and typewrite by hand all the cd cases.. which were envelopes. this may be severely ghetto, but i was stoked that every album was different.. if its a full length maybe get a little more quality.. but try and be interesting about the packaging. as far as numbers.. id listen to griphin and do at the most 200. you can always get more cds done if you sell them all, but its going to suck if you guys break up or something and then you have to explain 2 boxes of cds that stay in your basement forever. word. - Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:28pm | ||
| zakco User Info... | Kris North wrote: "evan rabby of company zero does runs of 100....its cost us like 320 or so to do 100 cds with full colour 4 page inserts" Are you talking about Burned CD-Rs or actual Pressed Audio CDs? I'm willing to bet they're CD-Rs -Z- - Sun, 5 Mar 2006 6:27pm | ||
| odb User Info... | Don't do CD-Rs, you have to do properly pressed cds if you are at all serious about your music. People feel kinda ripped off if they pay 10 or 15 bucks for a disk you burned on your home computer. 500 is the best deal, sure the price drops for 1000, but my band pressed 1000 of our first cd in 1996 and I still have 300 of them in my parents basement. it doesn't matter if I paid $2 each or 50cents each for those disks, that is money that could have been better spent elswhere. - Sun, 5 Mar 2006 6:55pm | ||
| brad User Info... | oh come on now...your trying to tell me the Papilloma's couldn't sell 1000 disks? hehe(i'd gladly take one of those off your hands by the way)..my first band played all over this friggin island, and the most we ever sold was 200 of the first and about 180 of the second..im talking Cassettes mind you...but yeah..i'd like to know how many "local" bands can sell 1000 disks without touring endlessly.. thanks for the input guys...looks like i'll have to check out company zero. - Sun, 5 Mar 2006 9:25pm | ||
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