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Apple or pc for Home recording?
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Colin
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Just wondering what is better for home recording,

macs or pc's? , does anyone know the benefits of either.

And how does Garage band compare to cubase or cakewalk Sonar.

Thanks, - Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:35am
cooper
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I'm fairly comfortable with computers, but I couldn't figure out any PC music software for the life of me. So I bought a Mac, and I love it. GarageBand is so so easy to use (and GarageBand 2 has some nice improvements), and you can always upgrade to better software later if you need to (Logic, Pro Tools, etc.).
That's just my opinion, but if you want to get your tunes down with little to no hassle, Mac is the way to go. - Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:11pm
Peter Gardner
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Mac is the way to go...if you can afford it : ) - Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:20pm
wheate
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If you are serious about getting into the recording world, Garageband is a joke. The number of functions it has is perfect for playing around and making little cookie cutter MIDI tracks, but it lacks severely in a lot of key areas. Mac, as it was in the past, is not the only option anymore, PC's can handle just as much workload as efficiently as any mac can. The decision boils down to which program you prefer really. If I had to buy all of my gear all over again I would go with Pro Logic, which is only available for Mac. Logic's MIDI is far superior to Pro Tools, as are the standard Plugins it comes bundled with. BUT, Pro Tools is the standard, and if you want to learn the program from where all these platforms spawned, then Pro Tools'll do just fine. - Sat, 22 Oct 2005 1:40pm
Johnny Grass
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PC is way more bang for the buck and the fastest AMD CPUs will slay anything Apple has available at the moment. They just announced the new dual core G5 chips, but I'll bet they don't out perform the AMD dual core. My 2 year old Athlon 3200 is faster than the top of the line dual CPU G5. But OSX has core audio and core midi which is nice, if you don't mind spending a little extra $$ and having a little less power. Mac is uber expensive, but if you want a good stable PC, you'll have to build one with all top of the line stuff and that will set you back a good $12-$1500.

Sonar is a pro multitrack and garage band is more of a consumer based product for dabblers. If you want to do some serious shit, it won't cut it. Go for Sonar, or even Mackie's Tracktion, it's cheap and good.

PC= Good bang for buck, and is very stable and powerful *if* you have a good machine, those $300 emachines from futureshop won't cut it.

Mac= More expensive, less powerful, but also probably less hassle as well. Apples are quality machines, whereas pre-packaged PCs are a gamble and you have to know what you're doing to build a good one and set it up.


When you use Apple, you aren't supporting the evil Bill Gates, but you are supporting the evil Steve Jobs instead. It's all relative... - Sun, 23 Oct 2005 1:21am
Colin
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thanks for the info,

How does Cubase compare to Sonar? - Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:09am
_Griphin_
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I use the PC for home recording, however, GarageBand is an application to look at, I think it's easier to use then CuBase or Cakewalk Sonar, although they want too much money for Mac equipment IMO. - Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:29am
ML7Mike
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how are Macs less powerful than PC's? Never heard that one.. Ive seen a 400mhz MAC g4 play games that needed a 1ghz PC. But ya, either machine will work fine these days for music and PC is far cheaper, also if you are like most musicians and cant afford to buy $1000's worth of plugins and software there is loads of full fuinctional cracked PC stuff on the net.. ( audiofarm.cc for example ) - Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:09pm
_Griphin_
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You saw a game on a Mac?!? Which one?!? - Sun, 23 Oct 2005 2:57pm
Johnny Grass
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I'm talking about new compters, not 6 year old ones.

Yeah, back in 97-98, Macs were more powerful when comparing similar clock speeds. Back then, Mac was the only way to go, but times have changed. - Sun, 23 Oct 2005 6:13pm
ML7Mike
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true enough..

I see Mac recently plummeted prices on their widescreen LCD's, thanks in part no doubt to DELL who buy their components from the same company Apple do but sell their 20" widescreens for $600 or so.. - Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:29pm
fred birken
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SAW studio, PC based, is a pretty amazing bit of professional audio workflow. It can also do rudimentary video editing, batch file conversion and a number of other nifty tricks, including some pretty serious batch processing options. Written and maintained by a film audio guy in Las Vegas. Nothing like it in MacLand, in terms of flexibility and workflow. Great for studio multitrack or live multitrack, with features suited to each, such as splitting a long file into song sections and having them become separate files, with the mixer settings, plugs etc. intact, on the live recording feature set. - Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:09am
Vegas J
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PC!PC!PC!! I ve actually BEEN to IQS in Las Vegas! Good program & all the casinos are using it to run sound...American Superstars (Imperial Palace) etc.

We at the Electric Cafe bought a Mac G4 800MHZ for $4000 and the fucking computer crashed CONSTANTLY. Presently it's been delegated to being a plantstand I think....later that year I bought a WinXP machine from London Drugs for $600 that was faster/better and has NEVER crashed since 2001. The rumour that Macs are "crashproof" etc are complete crap. That may have been true in the late 80's but no more. Since Macs now are approx the same price as PC's I'd STILL suggest you go with PC's. It's no accident Mac have gone with INTEL processors..their own are no better so they may as well go with the rest of the world. I honestly think Mac will end up offering PC computers (naturally more expensive) within a year. - Mon, 24 Oct 2005 10:11pm
Vegas J
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Ah, hell I'm just gonna say it..emotional response...Mac's fuck puppies....please don't take that literally..it's just venting. - Mon, 24 Oct 2005 10:21pm
Kris North
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i've used alot of pc recording software. i got a mac, and once you go mac you don't go back man. seriously. garageband is the easiest fucking thing i've ever used. and it has tonnes of options too. - Tue, 25 Oct 2005 7:54am
Vegas J
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I was joking about the Macs suck thing in case anyone took me seriously..I know they don't...I'm just bitter 'cause we paid a ton of cash & got a lemon. Sure felt good to vent tho!

I've heard awesome things about garageband and yeah, it's a totally user-friendly program...Cubase is what I use and it has a pretty steep learning curve and I think is set-up as a much more serious recording/editing tool...but once you get a handle on it , it is super-powerful! I still vote PC though, just get one with good components and not a Celeron or Sempron chipset ( too disabled)! Cheers! - Tue, 25 Oct 2005 8:21am
ML7Mike
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Macs are the approx price of a pc.. doubled and tripled..
Bet PC isnt coming out with a Quad 2.5 ghz. though.. $4K.. 1.25 ghz FSB too - Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:07am
moron
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There is also the MacOSX, Windows, Linux argument.

I just recently started using Ardour on my gentoo Linux box and so far it is proving to be quite powerful. So another option to consider is a decent PC but running Linux and something like Ardour (and / or Rosegarden).

http://www.ardour.org

You can try out Linux audio apps without disturbing your current OS using a live CD:

http://linux-sound.org/distro.html

(try Agnula, Planet CCRMA, Apodio)

Cheers

http://industrial.org - Wed, 26 Oct 2005 8:32pm
Colin
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Thanks for all the great info, Ive decided to stick with pc

and I got a Gateway, 2.8ghz duel processor with 1gig of ram and 250mb of hardrive.

Next I need to sell my car and pick up some good recording gear. - Wed, 26 Oct 2005 9:39pm
jotaerre
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For PC's N-tracks is a sophisticated (shareware available) and cheap program. If you actually play instruments rather than MIDI sequences I doubt the average user would notice the difference between this (~ $45) program and Cubase, ProTracks, Cakewalk, etc. - Wed, 9 Nov 2005 5:58pm
_Griphin_
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Ewww... a Gateway?!? Hope you got it for a deal, I paid just under $1,000 for my 3 gHz P4. - Wed, 9 Nov 2005 8:37pm
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