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| denver User Info... | Hey I was wondering what some good recording mics are for fairly cheap. I have one shure beta 58a, I guess i can use that as one of the mics for recording drums, but what are the standards for guitar and vocals? the 57's? thanks, Denver - Sun, 5 Jun 2005 5:03pm | ||
| cooper User Info... | I'm no expert, but I think you'll find many people recommend StudioProjects condenser mics. I recently bought one at L&M - the B1 model - for $120 I think...? And yeah, the SM57 is the standard for instrument micing. For bedroom recording, one track at a time, I think the B1 + SM57 are two great mics that do the trick on the cheap. - Sun, 5 Jun 2005 6:18pm | ||
| Lucius User Info... | I second the B1. I just bought 2 of them and they are great for vocals, drums, and close mic amp cabs. Nice mic for the $$$ - Sun, 5 Jun 2005 7:04pm | ||
| adam User Info... | 57s all the way baby! - Sun, 5 Jun 2005 7:31pm | ||
| denver User Info... | thanks yall! - Mon, 6 Jun 2005 8:12am | ||
| dooker User Info... | i just recorded a demo for Rockville and we used 57s all around for the drums (couple of condensor overheads) and I have rented the Sound Project T3 for the vocals and am very very happy (used a basic art tube preamp) 57s on the guitar amps of course! - Mon, 6 Jun 2005 9:19am | ||
| Mi*coll* User Info... | the B1 is highly recommended as a good all-around large diaphram condenser on the HomeRecording BBS by many experienced engineers. It is typically recommended for OHs, vocals and acoustic instruments. Also recommended in that price range are the MXL 603 (a SDC for OHs and acoustic instruments) and the MXL V67 (a LDC for vocals). For guitar cabs and close miking of drums, you can't go wrong with a 57 (if you have a decent preamp). a better board to ask questions of this nature is the Homerecording.com mic forum, but be sure to search the board before you post or people will get choked. - Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:07am | ||
| JasonLove User Info... | Recording can be broken up into two different components: Drums and Everything else. (this coming from a drummer!:) SM57's are great for toms and not bad for hihats. Great on snares but Beta 57's are a bit more musical I fond. You need something beefier for the kick. Think Beta 52 or AKG D112 or Audix. (Audix are FANTASTIC!) I kinda dig AKG C1000's for overheads. Also, on the kick try a 10" or 12" speaker wired backwards for a little extra bottom end. For guitar amps 57s are great. For vocals, 57s don;t quite cut it for me. I have used the M-Audio Luna a bit and it's allright. I have heard good things about shure's KSM27 (i think thats the model #) Also, Aidan has an Apex 450. they are cheap as far as condeser mics go and it sound preatty damn good. Dig it Denver. - Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:40am | ||
| denverc User Info... | thanks again, I dig it jason! - Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:30am | ||
| ASC Karl User Info... | Besides mics, what is the best firewire mic interface out there? I've checked out the Motu 896HD, but was wondering if there are any others of similar quality for a more reasonable price. - Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:27pm | ||
| [+} User Info... | you must have at least an SM57 in your arsenal. i would also highly suggest large diaphragm condenser and a low frequency mic (for kick drum, bass, and floor tom.) it's better to have three great, cheap mics that you can use in a bunch of different situations than having one expensive mics or a bunch of mics you will never use. you might even want two 57's. forget the beta's, without a good pre most listeners can't tell the difference if you shift some of the mids and treble frequencies around when mixing. and if you want to do live stuff just rent from L&M for whatever else you need. did you grab that 1600 denver? if so, good luck. that thing is a great, easy, fun tool to get your stuff sounding great. in summary (just my preference, i recommend figuring what you like for yourself): guitar amps: røde NT1000 + an SM57 acoustic guitar: apex 450 +/or a rode NT5(s) bass amp: sennheiser D112 on bottom speaker and a SM57 on the hottest speaker kick drum: sennheiser D112 snare: SM57 toms: audix D1 + D4 overhead: rode NT5's vocals: i really like the sound of the new apex ribbon mic, but i always use my 450. i'm a dry vocal sound kind of guy though, so it might not be your bag. horns: mixing an SM57 and an NT5.. pretty cool. you can totally get away with an SM58 too. and etc etc.. - Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:28am | ||
| Trican User Info... | i just let the pop sensation worry about it - Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:24am | ||
| denver User Info... | yeah man i got the 1600! thanks for all the info dude - Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:50am | ||
| Wheate User Info... | Just a little correction on +'s reply. The D112, although a fantastic mic, is made by AKG not Sennheiser. As for my thoughts, I have an Apex 460 Tube that runs around 240 bucks that slays for that warm sounding vocal and can be used as a second mic on guitars as well. AS for the 57 suggestion, I totally agree that it is a must have, but not the only option for guitar cabs anymore, I've heard good things about Sennheiser's e609 Dynamic which is also quite reasonable in price. - Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:47pm | ||
| [+} User Info... | nevermind. don't use the AKG. i have the AKG and it's alright, but i think i'll look around for a new kick drum product. and forget about the 460. IMO, it's a hassle to find a good vocal shelf in your mix. the 450 (while being 10 digits less) is a far superior mic for setting up and getting a terrific sound without fussing about with the EQ. - Thu, 9 Jun 2005 8:34am | ||
| JasonLove User Info... | One word my friend, Radio & Shack One word. - Thu, 9 Jun 2005 9:48am | ||
| Trican User Info... | that's 2 :) - Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:25am | ||
| [+} User Info... | i think they are called.. "crown" mics. or something like that. someone told me a certain upscale vancouver studio where you can track GREAT drums uses them. - Thu, 9 Jun 2005 7:17pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | Radio Shack used to OEM products from other mic manufacturers, such as the Crown PZM (Though the RS one was unbalanced; There are some good sites on rewiring them for balanced operation.) They also used to have a decent shotgun and I have three awesome examples of condenser lavaliers which work well as omni stereo-lapels, in my home-made binaural outfit or as single omni-lapel sources. Battery-op and able to provide a pretty decent range. Regrettably you WILL kill yourself trying to find a cool mic there now. I've only fucked around with one 'Optimus' mic and have never heard a bigger pile of clap in all my life. I do regularly smash pieces out of a R&S condenser I use as a clip-on timbale mic. Its not of the golden era of mics but it puts up with abuse it was never meant to take. I remember when RS PZM's were worth $39.95 Can, I bought mine when they were up to $69.95. One year after that they were no more. Radio Shack is good for nothing these days. Seldom will you find anyone who has any idea of electronics or anything else at all. They're now a glorified dealer for cell-phone plans. (and accessories) All this aside, my favourite single mic IS the RS PZM. It withstands extreme abuse, has an ideal 180deg pattern and the sensitivity within that pattern is almost unmatched. I wish I had 12 of them. I'd make a Fuller-esque dodecahedron of the bastards! - Thu, 9 Jun 2005 9:48pm | ||
| Mi*coll* User Info... | One important thing that hasn't been brought up: preamps. You should consider dropping a fair amount of coin on decent preamps, because they affect the signal significantly. Many pro studios use SM57s on guitar cabs, but they are run through $2000 preamps. In fact, rumour is that the vocals on "Billy Jean" were recorded on a 57 -- but through an insanely expensive preamp. What kind of preamps are you gonna use? Two budget options are the Studio Projects VTB1 (one channel, $120) and the M-Audio DMP3 (two channels, $250). I have the VTB1, which is heads above the preamps on my shite Behringer mixer. One other thing. I'd respectfully disagree with Aidan's suggestion to go with more, cheaper mics instead of fewer, more expensive mics. I say if you can afford one great consenser, say the Studio Projects T3, or five cheap ones, say some Radio Shack deals, go for the good one. That said, you probably need at least a few dynamics as well. - Fri, 10 Jun 2005 9:17am | ||
| denver User Info... | word, micoll, i have a boss br1600, so is it worth getting a good preamp for it? - Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:50am | ||
| KidComa User Info... | Hey ASC Karl, the best firewire interface is the RME Fireface. RME is awesome. Hands down. - Fri, 10 Jun 2005 6:11pm | ||
| Mi*coll* User Info... | Denver, I'm not familiar with that unit at all, so I don't know. Get some shit and experiment with it, I say. - Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:08pm | ||
| ASC Karl User Info... | thanks for the info, will check out. - Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:29pm | ||
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