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BBC: 18 May 2005 25th anniversary of the death of Ian Curtis
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Lordpatch
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18 May 2005 BBC RADIO: A special event in Manchester and on air to mark the 25th anniversary of the death of Joy Division frontman Ian Curtis.



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A special event in Manchester and on air to mark the 25th anniversary of the death of Joy Division frontman Ian Curtis.

6 Music takes over the BBC's Big Screen in Exchange Square, Manchester at 1900 to mark this special anniversary. This is a free and ticketless event and all are welcome. There will be rare footage of Joy Division performances released by Factory Records such as the little seen Here Are The Young Men video and 1979 Manchester Apollo performances.

Plus there will be a screening of a 1988 documentary which looks at the legacy of Joy Division and the effect Ian's death had on the remainder of the band who went on to form New Order; with interviews from Alan Erasmus, Tony Wilson, Bernard Sumner, Peter Hook, Steve Morris, Paul Morley and their late manager Rob Gretton.


Featuring an interview with Factory's Tony Wilson.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/phill_jupitus/


http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/gideon_coe/


http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/gideon_coe/

Inerview with Anton Corbijn on Wednesday 18 May 2005 to talk about Ian Curtis and Joy Division.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/steve_lamacq/


Love Will Tear Us Apart
Joy Division

Recorded a mere two months before lead singer Ian Curtis committed suicide but released a month after his death, “Love Will Tear Us Apart” is the sound of despair in musical form. At the time of writing the song,



Curtis’s marriage was under considerable strain, due in part to his ongoing affair with a Belgian woman. And whether autobiographical or not, the lyrics are clearly the work of a troubled soul.

Backed by a spectral keyboard refrain, Stephen Morris’s robotic drumming and Peter Hook’s trademark mournful bassline - all enhanced by Martin Hannet’s glacial production - Curtis pretty much croons the lyrics, which are among the most painfully intimate you’ll ever hear: “Why is the bedroom so cold?/ You’ve turned away on your side/ Is my timing that flawed - our respect run so dry?”

Even without the chilling postscript, “Love Will Tear Us Apart” would stand proud as one of the most moving songs ever written, as well as being the group’s most accessible moment. With it, the track becomes almost too harrowing. And in a final, fitting tribute, Curtis’s tombstone was inscribed with the title as his epitaph.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/soldonsong/songlibrary/lovewilltearusapart.shtml


with comment from Tony Wilson


Tony Wilson signed Joy Division to his Factory label in 1978. Here he talks about how their biggest hit owes as much to producer Martin Hannett as it does to Ian Curtis. - Tue, 17 May 2005 6:04pm
Pubert
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Get a grip...


Whaka Whaka Whaka Whaka Whaka - Tue, 17 May 2005 11:50pm
Chris Logan
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Shut up Pubert. Patch, you're a prophet. - Wed, 18 May 2005 5:04pm
The Box Drone
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Kind of funny... I've been a huge New Order fan for years and years, but I've never really delved into Joy Division, beyond LWTUA & Transmission. But last night (actually a coincidence that it was Curtis' death anniversary) I put on Closer and for the first time listened to the whole album beggining to end. I was very suprised by how much they used synths on that album, I thought they didn't really get into the synths until after Curtis died... I also didn't find it to be nearly as dark as I keep hearing, although I admit I wasn't scrutinizing the lyrics. - Thu, 19 May 2005 2:48pm
Lordpatch
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peace

well first off

hey and peace chris


and second

the reason for that misunderstanding Boxy is no fault of your own. they are foremost punk in audio slaught but got trapped in the cold wave era which was post punk. then sadly got jacked by the nare do well goth scene later who had a gestopo fetish and very little taste in music or style -- so don't blame joy division -- what other sound and soundtrack could a group from a dying cold mining town come up with? -- desolation, desertion, desporation yet endurence -- there is still hope in joy division pieces

nyc liked them alot because the sound fell into the "no wave" catagory which had been the foundation of their post punk return - -because punk had started out in nyc before it hit the u.k. despite the historical revisionism (see richard hell and the voidoids, the ramones, patti smith group). north american punk tended to deal with willaim s burroughs surrealist radical vision (since he coined the term "heavy metal") and a flow of social realism while the uk. dealt with grand political theory made basic in it's application via dadaist assaults -- blame maclaren for that and the st martin's school of art. of course the "oi" movement attempted to return it a "street level" concern, however, it was too quickly coopted by the national front and british movement facist parties as we see it has still often a large funding, at times, by aryan nation organization and rightwing financiers and affiliates -- so much for the working class. try a crass album or an au pairs joint or x for that matter or jamaican ska and reggae, especially the sounds of dub, djs and vocalist during the 70's, if you want working class idealogy and polical engagement for the people (respectively).

also since roxy music's "pin up" during the glam rock period-- the u.k. have always been good at packaging things
-- (actaully, they did a good job back in 50's of leathering up gene vincent from his cool suit and blue cap period)until tony blair took office then the rap and ghetto fabulous mobbed out the whole advert and package deally.


to carry on with joy division, they are less dark and more clever -- they offered social commnentary but more in the abstract form which aided in distancing them from the punk foundation of their work but bringing them CLOSER to the nyc scene.



peace - Fri, 20 May 2005 9:24am
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