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Bands need to fight the local club monopoly
| Message Board > General Chitchat > Bands need to fight the local club monopoly |
| Jedi User Info... | Bands need to fight the local club monopoly. There should be at least three local bands making $1000.00 a month at least. Enough for then to �get by� without additional jobs and get serious about writing better music. Dealers could keep the band high and make sales through groupies. As one band dies off, another is ready to replace them and keep the competition high. I offered two local bars a deal where I�d rent the whole bar for a few grand, a month ahead. I wanted %100 of the door and %30 of specified �drink specials� and they both laughed at me. So the club owners make it impossible to make anything back to pay my bands what they are worth ($200, $400, $600, and $800 for the four bands in order. Ok, forget the drink specials. The bar still gets a full house of drinkers to profit off of and cash up front for the night. Nothing off their back. Everyone profits. What about clubs selling tickets to the band ahead of time? The band pays a couple dollars per ticket for 500 tickets or however many they want. Band sells tickets for whatever they decide. The bar keeps all drink sales except the smart business owners who know to tip a few hundred $$$ to bands on especially good drink sales nights. Keep the bands happy and the competition high, keep the local mob (dealers) happy, and the club owners working with this program would double their income without screwing over the musicians that help pay their bills. I�ve spoken to several members of bands that play shows often and they don�t like my idea�s cause they are happy with free beer, getting laid, and don�t want higher competition. I tried to keep this very short. If you want more details with actual numbers and specifics, send me e-mail. [email protected] with monopoly typed subject. - Sun, 7 Sep 2003 6:23pm | ||
| bar owner User Info... | How about you forming a band and having a product then you can TALK. you have NO product do you - Sun, 7 Sep 2003 7:35pm | ||
| The guy's obviously nuts User Info... | Don't waste your time with this Jedi fool. Nuttier than a fruitcake..... - Sun, 7 Sep 2003 9:24pm | ||
| DEATH User Info... | I allready replied to him but, what bar in their right mind would say, sure come in use our building, take all of the door, take 1/2 of the drink specials *which of course, the bar paid for all the booze not whoever is putting on the show* and we'el pay all the extra staff for your event out of our own pockets even though we have no idea who you are or what draw your night will have. Look through the bar's eyes... - Sun, 7 Sep 2003 9:40pm | ||
| greg User Info... | No bar is going to give any band a cut of the booze. And why should they. They're not partners with bands. If you want to start a club or bar, go ahead. - Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:13am | ||
| don't do it User Info... | This Jedi guy is the same one who was looking for people to give him kittens to feed to his snake. Why don't you move back from where you're from; or won't they allow you back into the US? Wonder why. - Mon, 8 Sep 2003 1:30am | ||
| Charles the Clown User Info... | I don�t know if they would take me back, I�ve been here almost three years. They always send the psycho�s to Canada. The fresh air heals sick minds (so they think). Since YOU want me to go back to Bush land, I better git going eh. - Mon, 8 Sep 2003 4:42am | ||
| Justice User Info... | This jedi, Clown, Steve, whoever you are. I really hope you arent as an idiot as you portray here. really you are one dumb bitch. do you even have a band? - Mon, 8 Sep 2003 1:00pm | ||
| don't do it User Info... | He's a washed up 37-40 yrs old dude who cant find anyone to play with. - Mon, 8 Sep 2003 6:15pm | ||
| Stalker User Info... | Really now, at least you got my name right. I wonder if your the recording guy that looked nervous as hell when I walked in and we were introduced. haha, at least it was one of many Jedi, Clown, Stalker, street corner grrl, slaggers. Dont worry, I dont take it personal. Once you've been in the music business long enough you too will be able to look up your arse and see the sky from being fucked so many times. if anyone mentions music industry i just automatically bend over to take it up the ass*lol*....its like a reflex and you too will see it the same if you stick around long enough. Maybe thats why you think I'm in my "late" 30s? Sorry if I continue to offend all you livevic groupies for not taking this site as serious as you do. You have to expand your mind a little further. And how do you compare early retirement with being washed up? What is washed up? Want to meet for coffee or somewhere off a trail in a local forest, recording studio, on stage cutting heads in front of a full house. Cmon and put up some pressure to make it worth my time. Or let go and have some fun... - Mon, 8 Sep 2003 6:19pm | ||
| jepsycho User Info... | I dunno personally after some of the things I have read that you said, I think that you are one sick fuck. If you think having fun is tormenting people and animals perhaps you should go back to the lock up ward at the EMP where you belong! - Mon, 8 Sep 2003 7:04pm | ||
| So? User Info... | Well if he is american , he obviously has $$ to support himself. he cant get welfare. or unemployment. so the washed up thing cant be true. He could have married a canadian or is a minimalist living out in the woods or on the street . But i really cant see this guy hanging out at the library all day to post on live vic.as for being fucked up and talking out of his ass, with some very obscene and rude posts in the past, i could assume he really is an idiot. what i would love to see is this stalker guy shut us up and show us some of his MUSIC from his EARLY retirement from the INDUSTRY. lol - Mon, 8 Sep 2003 7:30pm | ||
| So? User Info... | Well steve where is your music from this early retirement, you fuknut - Tue, 9 Sep 2003 8:35am | ||
| The Lurker User Info... | It's up his ass, right next to his head. - Tue, 9 Sep 2003 9:08am | ||
| Ratman User Info... | I�m really just a 45-year-old crack head living in my mothers basement. I suffer from hallucinations caused by drinking and smoking rat poison after I heard really good acid was made with it. Lurker and So fuknut, leave an e-mail. You must be new or unimportant because I sent that info out over a year ago. - Tue, 9 Sep 2003 10:56am | ||
| jepsycho User Info... | Hey you crazy fucknut, why does it matter if they have an email address up? Maybe they don't want crazy fucked up peopl like you stalking them. HMMMMM. It must be pretty cool to hide behind a computer all day and see how many people you can scare or piss off. How about you get a job and a life and find some other site to play on. - Tue, 9 Sep 2003 12:06pm | ||
| So? User Info... | Again you fucking burden to canada, show us your music from this carreer of yours. Simple enough. I would show you mine but then you would know what band i play in and my opinion means nothing of the bands. - Tue, 9 Sep 2003 2:15pm | ||
| FeLiXtheCaT User Info... | everyone is so defensive on this site for no real reason at all. i find it funny. HA! - Wed, 10 Sep 2003 2:56pm | ||
| greg User Info... | Yes - funny stuff is funny. Ha. - Wed, 10 Sep 2003 6:40pm | ||
| Raoul User Info... | what monopoly? - Thu, 11 Sep 2003 4:10pm | ||
| jay brown User Info... | Monopoly? All righty I play in two bands in town, and while some people may like to slag us, we do seem to draw better crowds than most of the bands I know in this town. No offence against anyone else we've just been around long enough that people actually seem to know who we are by now. Theres no way in hell we'd make a grand here, and I dont think theres anyone else I know here worth that much either. Bottom line, there arent enough people filling the rooms for live music to make it worth while for the rooms to pay that much. Do you really think Logans could afford that? While Lucky could afford it, they'd probably lose money that night or make so little that it wouldnt be worthwhile. No offence against any of the local talent I'd love it if we all made that much money, but it seems in this city theres more bands that their are customers. Barely any musicians out there make enough to be "professional" musicians so most of us around here just do it cause we love it. Somewhere along the way you have to improve, but as far as money goes, well I say we all just keep doing it cause we love it. Who knows maybe someone will hand you a wad of cash, but dont hold your breath. - Thu, 11 Sep 2003 6:58pm | ||
| METALNECK User Info... | Why does everyone have to slag this guy? All he did was give his opinion, that hardly makes him a bad person. I think the only thing stupid about this thread is the pointless retarded insults thrown his way. Kudos to Jay Brown for being able to state his opinion without heckling the guy. - Thu, 11 Sep 2003 8:45pm | ||
| don't do it User Info... | "all he did was give his opinion"???? Where have YOU been Brad??? This guy is a fucking mental case who has done some pretty shitty things to some people. He deserves worse than all this. - Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:56pm | ||
| Gagg User Info... | STEVE IS A DUMBASS! - Fri, 12 Sep 2003 8:28am | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | all fine and dandy, but what i don't understand is why do we have to stop bar owners from playing monopoly? i love that game man. first with the cheap properties, then the houses and hotels....man its' great. - Fri, 12 Sep 2003 9:45am | ||
| Great Big Eel User Info... | I get the little car... no, I want the hat. - Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:03am | ||
| Brandon User Info... | I love to get the ghetto properties, those two purple ones right after "go". I cant remember the names of them becasue i havent played monopoly in a long time, Baltic maybe?. oh yeah Lucky bar fucking sucks. - Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:15am | ||
| dave User Info... | there is no monopoly in Victoria for Live music venues. - Fri, 12 Sep 2003 2:02pm | ||
| dave User Info... | You can be pissed off because you don't make enough money but I'm pretty sure it's not a monopoly. - Fri, 12 Sep 2003 2:03pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | yeah man i hear you, i never make enough money at monopoly. i end up making stupid buys and lose all my $ before i can get some hotel action, then get soaked landing on everyone else's places. sucks. - Fri, 12 Sep 2003 2:10pm | ||
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