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lorralien
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Oh boy. Where to start. Ok, all I've been hearing about for a while now is how much everyone thinks Evolution sucks, and to go to Logan's for their monday night thing. For starters, the music was up way too loud (and I LOVE metal) to even sit inside. I'm guessing that could be one of the reasons everyone was outside on the patio. The clientele? Holy shit. I've never seen or smelt so many damn hippies in my fucking life. Dread locked patchouli pussy anyone? My friends and I were trying the whole time to find ONE person in the entire suckhole who had been laid in the last YEAR. I think the bartender and that Death guy were the only ones. heh heh Anyways, we ended up going to Evolution and had an awesome time. The place was packed and the drinks were cheap and un-drugged. Good times, good times. - Tue, 26 Aug 2003 3:34pm
BOHDAN
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funny i was thier for a bit and got laid yesterday morning,unfornetaly i went to evo also,now i got a fuckin hangover - Tue, 26 Aug 2003 4:22pm
BOHDAN
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oh yeah I'm no fuckin hippy - Tue, 26 Aug 2003 4:26pm
lorralien
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Well then you must be one of the college fags that were sitting outside, or invisible. - Tue, 26 Aug 2003 4:28pm
BOHDAN
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i'anit no fag , my buddy played a game of pool and we left - Tue, 26 Aug 2003 4:33pm
DEATH
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Heh Lorralien, I saw you there, you took off before the sound was even sorted right, we've been having problems with it but fixed it finally lastnight.

And as for hippies, I don't know what you are talking about, mabye the country people still at the bar from earlier in the day?

And the only idiots I saw there were a few jock prep morons causing shit... you know, the evolution type?
And Metal is loud... You couldnt even hear it at all out on the smoking deck... I don't think thats too much volume as it's been much louder before... I could hear all my friends talkin to me so.. Damage your ears a little so youre not so sensitive ahah, and if you see a smelly fuck wad, just smash a glass over his head or some shit, I certainly won't object to that. - Tue, 26 Aug 2003 4:39pm
lorralien
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You left. You're normal. - Tue, 26 Aug 2003 4:45pm
BOHDAN
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the music at evo still sucks - Tue, 26 Aug 2003 4:57pm
BOHDAN
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but you get so drunk you kinda forget about it - Tue, 26 Aug 2003 5:02pm
lorralien
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Hey Death. There were tons of hippies there last night. They were all outside in their dread-locked glory. I suppose if you're inside doing music, you may not have noticed. Well, hopefully biz picks up for you guys on monday nights. You need some highball specials there too. It's still a good place to go for shows. Btw, my friend and I are trying to figure out if you're buddy's name is Silas or Stylas...WHAT THE HELL IS IT! - Tue, 26 Aug 2003 5:17pm
DEATH
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Silas is his name.
And i'm pretty sure there is a hiball special...
I drink beer myself so I don't pay much attention to hiballs so I might be wrong, if so I'll bring it up next chance I get. - Tue, 26 Aug 2003 6:27pm
Masturbating The War God
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Hmm, sounds like you belong in evolution. Anyone who enjoys metal would go to Logans, minus the music being too loud. At least it's GOOD loud music. And what the fuck does it matter if hippies are there, can they not enjoy metal as well? They may not get laid like the people who attend 'hardcore mondays' at Evo, but at least they are free of STD's. - Tue, 26 Aug 2003 8:04pm
lorralien
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What fun is going out if there is nobody there to enjoy it with? I can sit at home and listen to metal and drink, or, go to where there are other human beings and enjoy a night out. The music was fine, but there were very few people there into it was my point. I belong where people having fun are. - Tue, 26 Aug 2003 8:15pm
Wreaker of Havoc
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fuck Lorraine. Lighten up. metal heads have feelings too you know. No brains but feelings..... - Tue, 26 Aug 2003 9:35pm
Tito Santana
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i was at logans on monday.. and actually, this week it really did fuckin suck. there were a bunch of kids inside that were mouthy fuckin idiots and a bunch of asshole frat boys outside. i wasn't amused. 2 beers and left.. went to evo. got drunk. listened to shitty music, but the cheap booze and decent company made up for it. maybe if some girls came out.. and the underagers got booted, things'd be different. but yeah.. STREETS tonight. - Thu, 28 Aug 2003 3:48pm
DEATH
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Uuugh...

What the fuck are frat boys doing in Logan's??

I saw one idiot but he got stedily less drunk and idiotic as the night went on...
Other than that I diddn't see these morons...

What I don't understand is why in the hell weren't they at boom boom or bar vic? - Thu, 28 Aug 2003 4:14pm
Wreaker of Havoc
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what better place to get drunk and beat up metal fags - Thu, 28 Aug 2003 4:18pm
lorralien
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awesome! i get to beat aaron up this monday. bets, anyone? although, i have seen him pull off one hell of a head-butt, i've got a killer right hook, and sharp boots. - Thu, 28 Aug 2003 4:42pm
Inktvis
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Hmm I'm reading this and I don't really understand why its such an issue to make a whole topic about it. Hippies, frat, preps, ravers, skaters, jocks...etc. Doesn't matter, if they enjoy the music thats fine. I don't understand this typical metal look anymore.

Someone to talk to or have fun? How do you know you won't enjoy the person if you don't even get to know them? This is a tired subject. If its such a bother, don't make a post about it. - Thu, 28 Aug 2003 7:53pm
DEATH
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Well inktvis I think the complaints are about the rowdy ones, there has been a few I've seen, know nothing of metal, dont like it, just come to logans all pissed to cause trouble, I'm just assuming those spoken of are off the same type as me being occupied most of the night there I may not have noticed if there were a bunch of people like this, I just see 1 or 2 a night, apparently last week there was quite a few...

I'm going to ask about a bouncer or something asap...

I don't need these fuck ups driving away people from metal night... - Thu, 28 Aug 2003 9:07pm
Tito Santana
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i think you need more wrestling theme songs.. that would bring out the TRUE metalheads.
DIE POSER SCUM. - Thu, 28 Aug 2003 9:38pm
BOHDAN
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maybe hire some strippers that would keep us a little bit more entertained - Thu, 28 Aug 2003 9:41pm
Tito Santana
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fuck the strippers... midget mexicans wearing nothing but sombreros would be enough for me.. mind you they'd have to dance and fetch me beer when attacked by the cattle prod. - Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:07pm
Tito Santana
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CORRECTION: they don't necessarily have to be MEXICAN midgets.. any midgets will suffice. - Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:11pm
BOHDAN
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or go around to yard sales and get lots of shit and pile it up on the stage and let us smash it - Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:12pm
Masturbating The War God
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I'm totally with Inktivis on this one, fucking 'metal' look, who gives a shit. You can't know a person if you won't even talk to them because of how they are dressed, you're just as pretentious as the next 'prep' kid you hate so much. And I've met plenty a metalhead who causes shit, people of all walks are assholes and annoy everyone. - Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:32pm
BOHDAN
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i don't give a fuck what you look like as long as your cool thats all that matters. i just thought last monday was lame but i was wasted and had some severe ADD and I needed to break something.... - Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:37pm
Tito Santana
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i agree entirely that its not about what you look like. fuck... me and my buddy were there and are far more punk than metal... if you're putting labels on things.
but when certain groups of people fuck shit up for everyone else... namely being the groups aforementiontioned, well.. i don't know what to say. we all know people who like metal.. whether they be hippies, wiggers, punks, assholes, or whatever. who cares. you start causing a problem.. you automatically fuck shit up for people who are enjoying themselves.. therefore bringing a bad name upon yourself.. SO... MASTERBATING THE WAR GOD... if these people are your friends... get rid of em... they're fuckin idiots. bring them to faggot karaoke at your moms house.. not metal night. - Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:42pm
FeLiXtheCaT
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heheee, but you know karaoke can be fun. i don't like people trying to label me. i'm so many things in one. i'm metalhead, hippy, and geek, plus more. that all you can call me is a metalhippygeek! so much for not being labeled. lol. labels are stupid! and people who label people are stupid. we're all human. sorry for labeling all you stupid people as stupid people. please forgive me. - Fri, 29 Aug 2003 12:20am
lorralien
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i say we just start an all out stereotype class war....who's with me? (scottish accent on who's with me) - Fri, 29 Aug 2003 5:23pm
Pierce
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If any of you were to meet me on the street, you would never know i am into metal. Have been my whole life. i dont look metal at all! So i am with the WHO GIVES A SHIT......METAL!!!!!!!! Will be at Logans tonight swinging my bass around. Come check it out!!!!!!! - Fri, 29 Aug 2003 7:19pm
DEATH
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It's funny these days, people describe the drunken jocks who were causing shit last monday, purely to be assholes and it turns into the stereotype war argument.

Put away your white plated armor, people were just describing the fight starting, loud mouthed, trouble makers who happen to be easily identified as "the asshole jocks" they were there, they were the problem, they were jocks.

How this leads to judging a person's views from apperance I'll never know as the persons in questions views were clearly let's ruin everyones time, mock metal and bully the other customers.

No need to start a stereotype slag war, and definately no need to defend these asshole morons.
Disagree with me?
Fine, go tell your views to the guy who had the jock's hands around his throat until we walked over... it was all for "lookin at him". The guy wouldn't harm a fly.

And as for the smelly hippies thing:
Hippies - Fine with me, alot do like metal on top of it.
Smelly - Uugh, I don't care who you are, if you stink I feel you should have 2 options:
1.Shower
2.STAY THE FUCK HOME - Fri, 29 Aug 2003 7:23pm
lorralien
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amen, brotha death. sorry, i just don't understand those hippies. no showers, dreads and patchouli are bad. very bad. and i really don't know too many hippies that are into, say - cannibal corpse? anyhew, hope biz keeps steady. - Fri, 29 Aug 2003 7:51pm
Anonymous
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what would happen to his image if it didn't? - Sat, 30 Aug 2003 9:32pm
Zippgunn
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Sorry kids but any event on a Monday at Logan's that gets so out of hand that they would need to hire a "bouncer" (a first, I believe) is a fucked up waste of time. The attitude of some of you shitheads makes me laugh; if you want to hang out with people who look and smell just like you at a place with cheap booze why don't you all just join the army or something. The choice of Evo (cheap booze but lousy tunes and crowd) over Logan's metal night (good tunes, but, horrors, a diverse crowd) shows the true colours of a lot of you posers. I agree with the above post that says that he would rather stay at home and listen to records, but that doesn't fit in with the metal pack mentality. I like a lot of metal music; I like the power and the sheer exhilaration of it, but the typical metal crowd is one I would like to introduce to Mustard gas. In the good old days the surest way to have a venue swear to never again have bands at it was to put on a metal show; invariably there would be a dozen fights and all the urinals would get torn off the walls. The metal scene is so insular and splintered and none of the sub groups even seem to get along; I once got in trouble with a band because I accidently called them "death" metal when they were, they huffily informed me, "black" metal. I told them that I was sorry but I can't tell horse shit from cow shit either. Yeah I too hate the smell of patchoui but I also hate the smell of a hundred black leather jackets in a room too, and it would be almost tolerable if there were more than 1 chick for every 20 smelly guys there. You morons should be grateful that Logan's lets you in the door at all. - Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:30pm
DEATH
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Well Zipgun , I hear what youre saying, some metalheads can be elitest snobs, most of em yes are useually die hard BM fanatics and can be a little abrasive/elitest if you talk to them about music but, thats not the crowd coming in on mondays, the bouncer comment was brought about because of the "jocks" who came in the other monday, not because they wanted to listen to metal or anything, but purely because they were drunk and thought theyd find the smallest metalheads possible and start shit with them etc.

When the owner is there he takes care of anyone like this but, if hes not there *and there shouldnt be reasons such as this to make him need to be around here but* the only way these nutbags get dealt with is 1. other people at the bar removing them, 2.calling the police or 3. having the bartender and myself do it... Bartenders and Djs shouldnt have to fight drunk trouble makers when doing their job...

More to the point though, bored drunk jocks shouldn't come to bars to pick fights with small people but well, shit happens and thats what security is for...
This does bother me as youd hope Logans would never need a bouncer just because the place is far from seedy, but people are assholes plain and simple...
If people start getting hurt because the drunk jerkoffs who stumble in happen to swing fists before the bartender or I catch wind of them, and the owner doesn't happen to be hanging around keepin an eye out... well thats what concerns me...

It was just one night and for the record noone has been hurt, but just knowing these types of people are coming in bothers me, and I dont blame anyone who wants to trash the guys for their actions.

I seriously doubt Logan's will hire a bouncer, not unless the crowd becomes damn huge regularily, so I guess I get to hope on good people to do what they can if shit happens.
People come out to drink and have fun, they shouldnt have to deal with being humiliated or hurt or plain scared shitless... - Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:52pm
lorralien
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ooooh! the smell of 100 black leather jackets would be the best smell on earth. you need to get laid, zipp....you sound awfully grumpy. - Mon, 1 Sep 2003 1:24pm
Wreaker of Havoc
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Zippgun and Death. Both well said. Ive played in Metal bands for years and I fuckin despise the metal attitude this town has. - Mon, 1 Sep 2003 2:04pm
beazlbub
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man i dunno what you guys have been smokin lately but i have not seen any damage done by the metalheads at a show in a long time lol i think its cause most of us have grown up and realized its more fun to hang out and socialize then start fights and wreck shit, maybe im blind i dunno but its been many years since ive seen any bullshit happen at a show,as for jocks causin shit at logans its prolly cause they got booted from the other bars that have bouncers and since logans doesnt really have one they took advantage of the situation (i know the owner does a good job when hes there and he doesnt pull the steroid monkey bullshit either)just because someone doesnt look metal doesnt mean they dont deserve to hang out in the scene its not like metal is an exclusive group, hell i know plenty of different types of ppl that go to metal shows because they enjoy the tunes and get to see friends they wouldnt normaly see at a dance bar ,there will always be a few assholes tryin to start shit but thats a part of life .anyways ive said enough so have a good one(b)and see ya online - Mon, 1 Sep 2003 4:08pm
METALHEAD!%
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I agree with you 100% Steve. - Mon, 1 Sep 2003 4:58pm
lorralien
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i make no excuse for not liking hippies. i could care less if you like metal and aren't the typical "metal" looking person. i just happen to prefer that. you people are all way too serious...go get laid. - Mon, 1 Sep 2003 5:20pm
Zippgunn
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I'm not really the biggest fan of hippies either; one of my main rules is "never trust a white guy with dreadlocks and a dog". A lot of people think that I'm a hippy which is funny to me but since I have long hair I understand their error. In the sixties being a hippie was quite a life statement; now it seems to be a fashion affectation for lazy flakes. I attended a "healing" on Saltspring a few years ago which was quite an eye (and nose) opener and believe me the bunch of them could have used a gallon or so of patchouli (smelly feet, ugh!). Having said all this I still have lots of "hippie" friends whom I tease mercilessly and they seem to take it in good humour which is more than I can say for most of the metal types I bug (man they get cranky FAST). Surest way to piss off a metalhead; imply that they're queer. There is no more homophobic scene than the metal scene (can anybody name me a queer metal band?) - Tue, 2 Sep 2003 8:28pm
DEATH
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Lol, Judas Preist.

And of course, if you call someone whos straight a fag or gay they're gonna take it as an insult, metalhead or not.
:) - Tue, 2 Sep 2003 8:47pm
Retrovertigo
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I wouldn't consider it an insult. I've never met an openly gay man who's openly an asshole. I've met many a straight open asshole. *Please insert anal sex joke here*
I don't find things insulting unless they have at least some negative bearing on reality. Calling a straight person gay is like telling an albino guy how black he looks. Why would anyone take offense at that? The only reason I can think of is that the person in question is uncomfortable with who they are, or uncertain of their sexuality. - Tue, 2 Sep 2003 11:22pm
Wreaker of Havoc
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Thanks for that Nancy...... - Wed, 3 Sep 2003 12:30am
Zippgunn
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Priest weren't an openly gay metal band, though Bobby Halford sure didn't hide it very well. There is even a gay leather bar somewhere in Germany called "Halford's" with airbrush paintings on the wall of Halford and his hog, too funny. I saw a picture of him in a recent Kerrang mag and he looks like such an old poof, what a role model! - Wed, 3 Sep 2003 2:09pm
DEATH
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Oh no, he came out of the closet...

Elton John wasn't "out" at his permeir but he's still considered a world class poof... - Wed, 3 Sep 2003 4:48pm
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