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I hate HUSH
| Message Board > General Chitchat > I hate HUSH |
| Pissed Off Musician | Do you ever go downtown on a friday afternoon and look at the poster poles downtown and notice HUSH has covered up everything, and I mean EVERYTHING. Not two or three posters but the whole fucking pole? about 9-12 posters? I don't poster much, I think considering Metropol and Hush are going to cover my shit up in a metter of minutes it's not worth the work. Im skeptical of Metropol's reasons for taking the lead as far as poster promotion, but it is a good idea, and I like the concept of equel representation. But HUSH are just assholes. I've been there once, and I thought it was lame as hell, but the posterers for them are just horrible. Yeah. I'm boycotting them. I hope the girl drinks and shitty cologne ignite and the place turns to ashes. - Wed, 4 Jun 2003 6:42pm | ||
| Japanese Air Force | I have to agree that they're being inconsiderate jerks, considering the current agreements in place as far as postering. What Steve Webb did was fantastic. More power to him! ~JAF - Wed, 4 Jun 2003 6:51pm | ||
| malcolm SOS | I have to agree with these sentiments. I mean, Hush have the right to poster and the right to not go through Metropol, but covering up 18 different events with one or two is never reasonable. Not to mention if the events they are advertising are just weekly DJ nights. Seems like they could poster way way less and still get the same results. Speaking from experience, Hush are making things difficult for EVERYONE. Not to mention making Metropol's ingenious system way less effective and wasting a ton of paper in the process. I really think each bar and promoter needs to be accountable for their advertising practices. It is time for Hush to rethink theirs. I would really like to see some of the other promoters address this issue and perhaps it is time for a follow up meeting about the state af postering in Victoria. - Wed, 4 Jun 2003 7:20pm | ||
| clownface | Hey what about the fuckin' Circus Gatti, they poster anything that doesn't move, why don't they get in shit? - Thu, 5 Jun 2003 2:08am | ||
| BrandXMedia User Info... | Malcolm is totally right. The fact that they have gotten away with this as long as they have is awful at best. Whoever promotes for HUSH should really get themselves a brochure on 'public relations' before they bite off their own ass. - Thu, 5 Jun 2003 4:44am | ||
| Justin | yeah! fuck, i hear everyone on this! hush covers up soooo many posters and for what? a weekly dj event?!??!? BOOOOOO-URNS!!! I've poster'd for my shows and as soon as i put one up there's another bastard putting up either a sugar poster or a HUSH poster :@ its just like a big phat waste of my time!! and not to mention its a huge waste of paper - Thu, 5 Jun 2003 1:36pm | ||
| Livevic Scott User Info... | A follow up meeting might be good, some of the things discussed from the first meeting have been accomplished (wider polls on a few of the down town corners) and I THINK they're may have been an additional poll or 2 added? As far as Circus Gatti you got it all wrong, they'll poster anything weather it moves or not, I think I saw one on my neighbors dog last week. - Thu, 5 Jun 2003 1:37pm | ||
| Anonymous | agreed. - Thu, 5 Jun 2003 1:37pm | ||
| Anonymous | why dont THEY get fined by the city? - Thu, 5 Jun 2003 1:48pm | ||
| Anonymous | I have an Idea. Let's follow him one night and take down his train of twelve posters, crumple them up into a ball and ambush him when he's done. Flying balls of paper hurt right?.....right? - Thu, 5 Jun 2003 5:57pm | ||
| Anonymous | BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! - Thu, 5 Jun 2003 9:20pm | ||
| Anonymous | If anyone's got to put up "that many" signs... is a sign itself it's not a stong business! Call me desparate!!! Look at me! look at me! - Thu, 5 Jun 2003 9:28pm | ||
| Virge User Info... | so someones gotta go up to the hush promoters and go "look man, what you're doing is completely unfair, totally inconsiderate and ecconomically and environmentally unviable. so why don't you just FUCK OFF!" or something maybe with a bit more tact. what does bylaw enforcement have to say about it? - Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:12am | ||
| C'est Moi | Hush just DJ's anyway. DJ'aying is shit,nothing to do with creating live music. Who cares about Hush, big deal - Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:23am | ||
| Anonymous | That's more reason for them not to cover up real show posters isn't it? - Fri, 6 Jun 2003 1:41am | ||
| Anonymous | from what i understand it's just that one snotty kid...i saw him following around the metropol guy one day right behind him and postering over it, it was ridiculous then they got into a heated argument. why doesn't hush show any respect to other events? is metropol really that expensive? - Fri, 6 Jun 2003 3:53am | ||
| Anonymous | I've worked with Metropol and the cost is not that expensive.For the amount of runs they do per day everyday it's worth it.They also understand that most bands unlike bars don't have alot of $$ to spend on postering.I'm sure they would find a way to work out a deal for your shows.The guy from hush is this little punk who is burning bridges fast in this town.I saw him following a metropol person too,covering up their posters.He is obssessed with screwing their business.What a dick. - Fri, 6 Jun 2003 5:04am | ||
| Ian McG User Info... | Hmm..I think I'll e-mail this discussion on to Hush, and see if they have any reply. - Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:55pm | ||
| Ian McG User Info... | Damn! No e-mail address. Fuckers!!! - Fri, 6 Jun 2003 1:02pm | ||
| Anonymous | Why doesn't everyone take every poster from hush they see and put it outside their fucking piece of shit club and see how they like that... i'm sure that'll piss'em off quite nicely - Fri, 6 Jun 2003 2:09pm | ||
| Anonymous | worked when a bunch of inner city kids boycotted nike. Took all of their nike shoes and piled them into a giant hill in front of 'Nike Town'. Hush should get the same sort of treatment. - Fri, 6 Jun 2003 6:20pm | ||
| Some Guy | The problem with Hush is that they simply don't understand what Steve and Metropol are trying to do. Consolidate - not monopolize. Not everyone agrees with Steve, but everyone has to notice how hard he works, how reasonable he is, and how far he's gotten the city to come around (check out the new bigger poles). Husch just doesn't pay attention or care what other people do. They don't get the one poster per pole per event thing at all. - Fri, 6 Jun 2003 7:22pm | ||
| Anonymous | it goes not only against metropol, but every musician and promoter in the city. Fuck them! - Fri, 6 Jun 2003 8:00pm | ||
| Anonymous | I wonder if they have an email address. - Sun, 8 Jun 2003 7:27pm | ||
| Matt D. | I got an idea... why not staple the Hush poster dude to a pole right outside that lousy establishment.... they might get the idea then, eh? - Sun, 8 Jun 2003 7:36pm | ||
| Metropol User Info... | I'm glad that some of you are as concerned about this as we are. Hush is the only remaining venue in Victoria that puts up more than one poster per pole. Maintaining a fair balance on the poles is labour intensive when Hush randomly annihilates several hours of sorting, tracking and postering with their runs. The way Metropol operates is in compliance with the meeting of promoters, the media and bar owners concerned about the state of postering at Thursday's Pub in February. Metropol's poster system seems to be working - both by increasing the amount of time each event gets represented and by reducing the amount of wasted paper that is a part of poster marketing. We do 2-3 poster runs a day, seven days a week and service all 50 poles downtown. The cost to use Metropol's poster service is $0.13 a poster. An average event can get good coverage for a week with 250 posters. Cost is $32 if you supply the posters, $50 with duplication, or $75 with design and duplication. Metropol sponsors many events and works towards furthering poster marketing and celebrating gig posters as art. The company is now 5 good people that are happy and get to see lots of great shows. The Hush poster issue is one that we struggle with daily. In all fairness, here are the facts: Hush does regularly cover an entire corner (24 different events if Metropol postered it) with a total of 3-6 different events by strategically using as little posters as possible to bury all of ours. The poster guy for Hush is just doing a job. With the exception of a few foolish incidents (see previous posts), the way he posters is implemented and monitored by the bar. Having said that, he also puts up posters for his own events at the same frequency as Hush's. Hush (the bar itself) only does 8-10 poster runs a week on a limited number of poles. Many of the Hush posters are put up by independent promoters such as Shortfuse, Illmannered, 420 Kru, Stylus, DriveThrough, Ground Level, etc. Many of these promoters have changed the way they poster to work with the rest of us (like Illmannered's Andy Clockwork show on the 13th). The Club Manager at Hush is Brent Carmichael. He has always been open to discussion on the subject of postering. He has always been courteous but firm in his opinions. The bottom line is that Hush has been postering they way they do for several years and will not stop. I believe Hush should be responsible for their postering. I encourage other promoters who use the poles to contact them and let them know how you feel. Brent's email on http://www.teamhardcore.com is listed as [email protected] Steve Webb Metropol EPS 384-POLE [email protected] - Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:17pm | ||
| big fat J | i actually postered for years, 3 times a day, for a living, well...drinking money. i worked for almost every bar in town. and theyre all pole hoggin' bitches. even this for example... i was working for steamers doing theyre weekly stuff, and i had people FROM THE SAME BAR!, (AMP productions, a production co. that was comprised of the bartenders there) come and cover me up, what a fuckin joke. ive had people follow me, ive followed people, got in few scruffles, its fucked..nothing stays on those pole for more the 1 hr or so before being coverd up, and the shittiest thing being that all the DIY events get nothing, they spend money out of theyre own pocket to put up tiny little 8 1/2 by 11's that just go waste, theyre only chance being able to put them up on boards and in windows like old nicks and such. good thing that live vic is around helping out on the advertising end (thanks scott). its never going to change, actually its probably gotten worse since the days when i did it. so if you have to poster, put it is high or as low on the pole as you can. and if those poster happy bars cover you up, rip the fuckers down cause they's gots the money to do it all again. cunts. - Wed, 11 Jun 2003 4:34am | ||
| Just a Thought | big fat j... Things could change if Hush events were boycotted.... and phone up the bar and TELL THEM WHY your boycotting them! They're being unfair on MANY different levels, including to all the musicians in this town. When their bottom line suffers... maybe they'll "get with the program" and play fair! - Wed, 11 Jun 2003 7:30pm | ||
| hey big fat j | you're opinions are based on how postering in Victoria USED to be. It is now 100 times better for everyone whether you are talking about bars who have $ to spend on postering or someone who is putting on a DIY event who has little or no money. Metropol has completely changed the way postering works in Victoria and it works well for everyone. The only people who are still causing problems are HUSH. So direct your negativity towards them. And if DIY promoters/people have small events that need some poster coverage, you should talk to Steve at Metropol and he will do his best to help you get some posters up for cheap. He is doing an amazing job and cares about Victoria, not just his own interests. - Thu, 12 Jun 2003 12:41am | ||
| Lethal | For the record Metropol isn't out to dominate the scene.They make just about enough to cover their costs.I thought I'd let you know that so you don't think it's a big corporate scheme!!It's good to support them,I know I will.I've worked with them before and I will so again.That poster punk from Hush needs to open his eyes and see the bigger picture.If he only knew how easier his life would be(and his job for that matter) if he just shared like the rest of us!! - Thu, 12 Jun 2003 5:41am | ||
| Anonymous | Metropole is a good business but remember it is a business that uses a good idea for a profit although it may not be profiting a lot at the moment (it's not going to do it just to cover costs forever). The system is a lot better than it used to be and it's a good idea but it's totally pro - bono by any means. Whether or not shows suffer is only a concern to Metropole to the extent that it's customers may not believe in the system for future business. In all fairness they could put up a ton of money for shows and use their same system whether or not their tickets were selling or not. That would be a good test being on the other side of the stick. - Thu, 12 Jun 2003 6:40am | ||
| Anonymous | it's not totally pro-bono. - Thu, 12 Jun 2003 6:50am | ||
| Anonymous | Sure enough seen him Blanshard & Yates tonight covering up the whole damn pole. Man was he ever in a hurry. - Sat, 14 Jun 2003 12:48am | ||
| Anonymous | Whats so wrong with metropole making money? if they fix all the postering problems in vic then doesn't that company deserve money? just a thought. - Sat, 14 Jun 2003 4:22am | ||
| Anonymous | Yup! - Sat, 14 Jun 2003 10:45am | ||
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