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the truth about GOTHS !
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| goths suck | I saw this and thought you all might enjoy a good laugh i've been trying to avoid putting up another page about Gothics for a while now, but recently I've been getting a flood of emails from dipshit Gothics that don't know the definition of satire and sarcasm. I received the following hate mail just the other day (spelling and grammar errors highlighted in red): Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:12:47 GMT From: captain kirk To: [email protected] Subject: hipocrit!!! you are are a judgemental son of a bithc who are you to jugde people who choose to live the gothic life s5yle youre not them you dont know what theyve been through it makes me so sad to see a pathetic dickless weener like you wasting youre energy putting down other people you make me sick gothic people make a diffence standing up for what they believe they dont need cock suckers like you putting them down!!! eat shit and die!!! ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com I don't know what they've been through? What the hell are you talking about? What exactly have they been through? Maybe a course in bigotry, bias and blind submission? I'm putting down people that make a difference? My bad, I forgot about the whole gothic humanitarian movement. Gandhi and Martin Luther King had better watch their ass; they have some competition of the gothic persuasion. It's ironic that you're complaining because I put down people for "standing up for what they believe," while the reason you're writing to me is because I too am standing up for what I believe. By the way, I think you might want to leave gothic representation to someone that can spell from now on jackass. What I don't understand about Gothics is the double standard they use with people. First of all, if I were to put up a Gothic web page viewing their lifestyle in a positive light, then I wouldn't hear any bitching from their camp even though it's still just my opinion. However, I've chosen to put up a gothic web page that doesn't view them in a favorable light and I'm bombarded by gothics that don't like what I have to say, even though it's just an opinion, positive or not! Biased morons. The Gothic Challenge: I challenge any gothic out there to send me the universal definition of a gothic. I've been to some of the biggest gothic web sites on the internet and none of them have a consistent, universal or even coherent definition of what a "gothic" is. As far as I'm concerned, it's just a label. End of story. Just another group of people starving for attention. There's nothing unique, interesting, mysterious or inherently intellectual about these pseudo-intellectuals. What's the point? Why don't these people get their own opinions and stop trying to fit into the rules of a group they didn't invent. Uncreative, un-innovative and most of all uninteresting. The whole "tortured artist" facade is tired. I'd like to use a quote from one of the authors of gothics.org, on the definition of gothics: "But what does gothic mean in regards to the group of people? Here's where it gets confusing. There are things that many Gothics like that are not gothic (Industrial or Classical music). There are things that are gothic that many Gothics dislike (vampires, interest in death). There are things that some people think are gothic that are not gothic (bands like Marilyn Manson and Nine Inch Nails), and there are things that do not call themselves gothic even if they are considered gothic by most people (bands like Sisters of Mercy and Dead Can Dance). However, there's no Grand Gothic Judge to decree what is truly Goth and what is not, although there are plenty of people who claim to be it. It's an ambiguous label with many people using it that don't understand what it means. The people who do understand it often have many different definitions." Highlighted in red, the author states that it's just a label. The use of the word "ambiguous" in front of "label" serves as a buffer that doesn't change the fact that it is indeed just a label. As stated, there is no "gothic judge to decree what is truly Goth and what is not," implying that there is no universal definition. How trivial and boring. I received an email from a gothic a long time ago that stated: I bet you don't even know any Goths because if you did you would know that most of us are the most intelligent, unique, intresting and creative poeople you will ever met. Many goths seem to adhere to this mentality. That they are some how MORE unique and intelligent than the rest of us. Not only is this insulting, but blatantly false; testimony to this fact being all the poorly written email I receive from "goths." Ironically, since most goths (and by "goths," I refer to their "culture" or "subculture" as they've defined it) seem to think that they are somehow more intelligent, interesting and/or creative than the rest of us, this alludes to another character trait entirely, or namely, arrogance. Boring, arrogant, uninteresting, un-innovative gothics. I believe this issue has been exhausted. gothics have apologized for sending me hate mail after I proved them wrong. - Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:27pm | ||
| Anonymous | "As far as I'm concerned, it's just a label. End of story. Just another group of people starving for attention. There's nothing unique, interesting, mysterious or inherently intellectual about these pseudo-intellectuals. What's the point? Why don't these people get their own opinions and stop trying to fit into the rules of a group they didn't invent. Uncreative, un-innovative and most of all uninteresting." Sounds a lot like punk rock! - Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:47pm | ||
| Anonymous | Yeah! I've had enough of those goths and their bullshit... always banging on the door ringing my doorbell, causing trouble - I wish they'd just leave me alone! - Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:31am | ||
| king meat | hurray for labels! how else would I be able to tell my canned peas from my carrots! - Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:32am | ||
| Lythic Elliot | Someone has a lot of free time on their hands... - Wed, 12 Mar 2003 2:09am | ||
| colin User Info... | This guys page is quite funny. He also has a rant about civics, and some great hatemail - Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:31am | ||
| Anonymous | Gothic = toooo much reading. - Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:33am | ||
| mark morr User Info... | Q: How do you get a goth out of a tree? A: Cut the rope. - Wed, 12 Mar 2003 2:04pm | ||
| KnifeGhost User Info... | Oooh, Goths aren't _really_ better then everyone, therefore they're stupid..... - Wed, 12 Mar 2003 5:00pm | ||
| King Gothic | love is in the air, i can feel it. this poor guy doesn't get laid much does he? - Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:48pm | ||
| Gleamer User Info... | I am not a goth. By any standard qualification or definition you could name. I wear thrift-store sweaters with chic'value T-shirts over them and hand me down Jeans from my financial accountant brother. I don't know what I am but I doubt its goth. I do know many self professed "goth" kids though so I will illuminate you on my knowlegde on that premise alone. I'll use two examples, two sixteen nearly seventeen year olds attempting to define themselves. The first listens to tool, wears a dark blue coat and hangs around goths. aside from calling themselves a goth those are the only tendencies toward that they exhibit. They are intelligent and they are a unique and enjoyable person (when not discussing tool). The second is a friendly person who wears lycrospandex black shirts and obscenely baggy black pants as well as having many peircings and black eye contacts. He listens to Mayrlin Manson and calls himself a goth. Now I know these are only two examples but I beleive that the only universal definition of a goth is someone who exhibits their behavioural tendencies and personality in a filtered viewpoint of the grotesque, mysterious, and desolate. or possibly they are actually a pre-civilization germanic tribe who enjoy raiding classrooms while remaining suitibly aloof so as to maintain their goth status. But to the poor goth boy who was quoted as saying that goths did not need "cocksuckers like (you) putting (us) down!!!" I ask this: if they didn't need that kind of attention, who would you rage against? - Thu, 13 Mar 2003 1:01am | ||
| KnifeGhost User Info... | If he got the chance to make out with a cute Goth chick, he'd change his mind _so_ fast.... At least I would in his situation... ;-) - Thu, 13 Mar 2003 1:02am | ||
| Dr.LOAD | I'd rather see a world filled entirely with goths than a world containing a single Gangsta, let's all unite and hate the baggypants together (at least being mopey doesn't destroy what little civil structure society still has). - Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:20am | ||
| Reclusotron | my bling bling fell down the sewer grate... anyone got gum on a stick? - Fri, 14 Mar 2003 1:13am | ||
| Maddox Rules | This is awesome, I didn't know anyone else here went to his web site. I wanna know who "goths suck" is... - Fri, 14 Mar 2003 1:29am | ||
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