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Jury Duty
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| SickFuk User Info... | As unbelievable as it sounds, I actually got selected for jury duty.... Anyone else ever get called for this? So far it's been nothing but bullshit... Day 1 - Sent home before anything even happened Day 2 - Sent home after 1 hour and a cup of coffee Wonder what day 3's gonna be like... 'ere - Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:57am | ||
| SPRING - LOADED User Info... | is it a murder trial? - Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:13am | ||
| alcoholly User Info... | I got picked for jury duty a couple of years ago. Basically they tell you that you have to be available for one entire month. In my case, I never actually had to go there, as the night before I would end up getting a call saying that it wasn't happening. Happened each week. Sucked though, because if you work full time, you still have to do it. The criteria for getting out of doing it is pretty strict, I tried to find a loophole but "no". Sure am glad that's over with. - Tue, 17 Apr 2007 1:17pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | Tell them you hate niggers and faggots. Works every time. - Tue, 17 Apr 2007 1:36pm | ||
| Kyle User Info... | hahahaha - Tue, 17 Apr 2007 1:40pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Wahahahahahahahahaha!.......ooooooh.....hahahahahahaha... Maybe by discussing the case on Livevic you can get disqualified......but if I know you....your enjoying this and don't want out of it.......read them some of your lyrics. .....is it a murder case? - Tue, 17 Apr 2007 1:46pm | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | Ya I've been curious about how that was going. Do you get any compensation for missing work? I think I would hate that. - Tue, 17 Apr 2007 1:47pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | I got selected and later got to go home after actual selection was over. It was a murder charge with 3 guys in the stands. The prosecution and defense have a chance to reject jurors as well, after the judge has a talk with everyone. Most people are thrown out in this stage. If the prosecution says ya sure, the defense gets all (well defensive) and thinks there must be something about you that will affect their clients chances. Therefore, you get very little agreement until the two teams start running out of choices. (Each has only a specific number of vetos) Compensation is pretty bad if you get selected for the entire thing. The one I was on was expected to take 3 months or something. I think it was 50 per day then 80 then 100 after 60 days or something, it was peanuts anyway. Check the Jurors FAQ somewhere up on the provincial website, it'll tell you the rates of compensation. I think my union contract adds like $20 a day or some bullshit to it, still would never be worth it to me. Its easy to think that when the Judge asks you some questions that you will just go, 'I think the person is guilty already', etc. Its never that easy. Even people who say something similar are not taken seriously, they know it's just people being dumb. I saw some people who have lived in Canada longer than I have been alive, and suddenly they don't speak ANY english! Theres not much getting around it. If I have to go again I will of course. Next time I'm bringing: 1. A good (long) book 2. Portable game/dvd/music device (I found the experience to be 200% boring and waiting) - Tue, 17 Apr 2007 2:31pm | ||
| SickFuk User Info... | Yah, I went for my first round a couple of months ago... defence attorney didn't like my Slayer shirt, so he denied me... And well, it's not a murder trial, but thats about as far as I can say without getting charged with contempt... at least until it's done... So far, everything to do with this has been a case of hurry up and wait... Luckily, they're only expecting it to take a couple of days, but 2 days in and we haven't even gone to the courtroom so who knows where this is going... I just took a weeks vacation time from work so I'm not completely fucked by this... And yes Trevor... I am enjoying this... I was wondering what would happen if when we enter deliberations, I walk into the room and flip a coin... 'ere - Tue, 17 Apr 2007 3:38pm | ||
| SickFuk User Info... | Day 3... and we finally got started... All I can really say about it is that Jury duty is punishment to the Cruel and Unusual... 'ere - Wed, 18 Apr 2007 6:05pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | I'll have to remember the Slayer shirt thing! There was a guy there when I was with a camo hunting vest and an NRA forever patch on his (also camo) baseball cap. Supposedly he said something to another juror during a break in the proceedings which was construed as 'manipulation of a potential juror', even though neither of them had been 'picked' yet. This guy probably thought it was an easy way out, but he left the building in the company of two deputies, and was (rumoured) to have been found in contempt of court since he would not repeat what he said outside.... I think he was probably just taken outside and told to fuck off, but still that made the judge talk for 3 hours about the event, and nobody at that point was willing to do anything strange in case it prolonged things.... - Wed, 18 Apr 2007 6:16pm Edited: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 6:16pm | ||
| nicola User Info... | It's really too bad the compensation to jurors is as bad as it is. I wouldn't mind doing it, as long as I could afford to go. It's pretty boring when the judge addresses the jurors, but can get interesting once they start introducing evidence and interviewing witnesses. I sat in on 2 days of the murder trial a couple months ago (as a member of the public) - it was a field trip for my law class. I found it fascinating... and based on what we heard, I'm not surprised the guy changed his plea to guilty. That case had something to do with a drug deal gone bad. The victim was stabbed for a drug debt of $600-800. I didn't know that's how much a human life is worth. - Wed, 18 Apr 2007 8:00pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | It'll never pay to be a juror I suppose. The best that can happen is that employers are not allowed to punish people for being called up. (Like being called up isn't a form of punishment itself) I know what you mean though. I was (and am) interested in the process itself, and would be more willing if the losses and the stress of my job piling up wasn't an issue. One guy sitting along side me was self-employed and his wife was fully trained to run the his whole business, so he was actually looking forward to it; Had nothing to lose really. He actually did get chosen for the job as well. Under those circumstances (and assuming I didn't get sequestered to some good awful hotel somewhere; I NEED to go home every day no matter what!), I would dig it. . If I was three months away from home, I would kill everyone in the courtroom. - Wed, 18 Apr 2007 9:52pm | ||
| The Wolf User Info... | I found a jury letter addressed to me a year after the fact, you think they would send Courier or something it got mixed in with bills.... They never called back... - Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:46pm | ||
| SickFuk User Info... | Well, trials all over so I'm now free to discuss the case... not that it was in any way interesting... Suffice to say, we found the defendant not guilty on all charges... As for the experience of being part of a jury... that I did find interesting... becoming completely absorbed in something completely outside my own life was like a vacation to me... now hopefully, I never have to do it again... 'ere - Mon, 23 Apr 2007 6:39pm Edited: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 6:39pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | Did you get paid to be on jury duty?!? - Mon, 23 Apr 2007 7:43pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | two grams of prison guard hash a day + $3.50 perdiem for 7-11 - Tue, 24 Apr 2007 7:59pm Edited: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 8:00pm | ||
| Danielle User Info... | SickFuk: you're lucky you didn't get stuck on the jury of some boring civil trial like an MVA or something where you would have had to sit there for weeks on end ad nauseum listening to doctors explain why /or why not the accident caused Mr. Schitzlotz to have penile erectal disfunction. lonemonk: Yeah it says in the Employment Standards Act that an employee is entitled to leave for jury duty but it is UNPAID LEAVE. And last I looked it up I think that conduct money for jurors was about $25 or $30 a day plus parking and a meal. So the majority of people claim financial hardship and they usually get away with that if the trial is scheduled to last over 5 days. The problem with that is that you see alot of juries who are all retired folk and this can be very prejudicial for the plaintiff/accudes cause a bunch of seniors are not the "peers" of a 21 year old "salesman". Ok....I shut up now... - Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:45pm | ||
| SickFuk User Info... | Actually, you're right... am I glad I didn't get stuck with the estimated 5 week long Fraud trial about some pyramid scheme a couple of years back... But really, the one I was on I thought was ludacris to even have been brought to trial... As for what we're paid.... it's $20/day + $10/day for transportation... Day care benefits if needed.... no parking, no meal, unless it's during deliberations... And yes, other than me, evenone one the jury was 40+ suburbanites... I actually had fun... 'ere - Wed, 25 Apr 2007 1:39pm Edited: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 1:40pm | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | When I was there I saw many people make the claim of undo financial hardship, but only one person was actually let go because she could prove she was the sole support person for a mentally challenged daughter. The judge was not uncaring of the claim of financial consequences, but I could tell he has heard it so many millions of times that all he can say is, "It's your civic duty none-the-less." The daily scale goes up after 60-ish days or so, but it will never be a money maker. - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 9:31am | ||
| SickFuk User Info... | Yah, I didn't even bother trying the financial hardship thing... everyone in front of me got shot down for it the first time... and I got shot down for wearing a Slayer shirt... 2nd time around, the judge didn't want any bullshit so I got snagged... But the pay scale is actually Day 1-10, $20... Day 11-49, $60... Day 50+, $100 'ere - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:40am | ||
| lonemonk User Info... | Not that it would work well at all for the justice system, but if they made it $100 to start and $300 after a while, they would have so many jurors they wouldn't know what to do with them all! People would be begging to be on a jury. - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:52pm | ||
| Lucius User Info... | Yah, I agree, "up" the pay scale. That is just silly and outdated to only pay $20 a day. I'm sure people start to worry about rent/mortgage/food after about 10 days or so. How are they to concentrate on the task at hand? Shit I couldn't survive off $100 a day let along $20. Anyways, my two cents. Cheers, Lucius - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 2:04pm | ||
| dumpstermesh User Info... | Holy shit THAT is the pay scale!!! What a joke. If I ever get called I'm going to do everything I can to not get on the jury. Who can afford that? - Thu, 26 Apr 2007 8:39pm | ||
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