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Postering Fines?
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| nicola User Info... | I just heard that a local band was recently charged 2 $100 fines for illegal postering... anyone want to explain circumstances/ details? Here are some questions I've encountered about the issue: Is it just the city of victoria that has these bylaws or is it for surrounding municipalities as well? What are the stipulations of the fine? If you take the posters down right away will they waive it? How do they know who postered? Do they fine you when you're postering or do they just show up to the show with a ticket??? Oh and why doesn't it stipulate any of this shit on their website? (or at least make it easy enough for drummers to find?) Any info is appreciated - Tue, 6 Sep 2005 11:17pm | ||
| Metropol Steve User Info... | Postering has always been illegal on telephone poles and many promoters/bands/venues have been issued tickets in the past. This was the original reason that the City installed (and continues to maintain) the postering cylinders in the downtown core over a decade ago. Many people view telephone poles as public property, but in reality this is not true. Telephone poles are actually property of BC Hydro and the city protects them the same way they would protect your property (in theory). BC Hydro claims that the staples used in postering on poles are a workplace hazard to their workers. Many bands do poster on telephone poles and get away with it, largely because they spread the posters out and clean them up afterwards. It's a risk that a band decides to take on, and it's no secret that it's illegal. This is why you don't see any venues postering this way - it's way to easy to get caught. In my experience, Bylaw will contact you if you hit every pole in a certain area and effectively create what the City defines as an "eyesore". If they can't find out who did it, and it was a particularly bad hit - they have legal recourse to fine the venue listed on the poster. As no venue feels responsible for what a band did on their own accord, that fine would undoubtedly be passed off to the band. That's what I know. You can obtain additional info about it in the City's Anti-Graffitti Bylaw, downloadable in PDF version from the City's website. In Addition: If you get posters from us with our logo on them and poster illegally - please stop! Bylaw contacts us directly now and I don't think I can play stupid much longer. Steve - Wed, 7 Sep 2005 2:02pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | I just hope they're fining 'garage salers' and 'lost pet owners' and 'Career Opportunity magicians' all the same as they do bands and venues. Otherwise, that'd be grounds for discrimination, I believe. Of course, who has the time or money to actually fight such injustice anyway. Those bastrads. - Wed, 7 Sep 2005 4:14pm | ||
| changingweather User Info... | think of all the lost cats that wouldnt be found if that law was enforced. - Wed, 7 Sep 2005 5:35pm | ||
| Matt/Bosevus User Info... | Do those cats get found anyway? I've been putting up a lot of posters in most parts of the CRD for about four years, and the only time I can remember problems were: a) when a bylaw officer stopped Scott and me at Oak Bay high school and made us take down the 5 or so we'd already put up, he threatened a fine... we didn't go back there for a few months. b) there was a panic about fines when Soundgarden was first open, they went apeshit in most parts of the city and created real eyesores. If I remember correctly (and I often don't) this was about the time that Steve started Metropol. And remember, if you see a Bosevus poster up illegally, it wasn't me and I don't know anything about it. - Wed, 7 Sep 2005 7:26pm | ||
| nicola User Info... | well all this is totally making sense... I do agree about the garage sale signs etc... I was out recently checking out posters (seeing how bad the situation really is) and most posters that are up on poles are garage sale signs for weeks gone by and advertisements for why we need jesus. I hope they are subject to the same bylaw. (most of which in the saanich municipality) As for the staples in the poles, I can see why Hydro doesn't want them in there for the sake of the pole deteriorating quicker, but the fact that it's a hazard for their employees isn't really an issue anymore. They don't climb the poles with their belts anymore.. they use bucket trucks. - Wed, 7 Sep 2005 11:14pm | ||
| bumsexjen User Info... | do they fine the christians who leave those fucking pamphlets tacked on to all the major telephone poles? i bet not. has anyone ever seen who does those stupid fucking things. - Thu, 8 Sep 2005 8:06am | ||
| wheate User Info... | Yes I have met a few of the pamphlet shoving christians. I come up to a pole to poster and it looks like some deranged frickin christmas tree. So I start to cover them all up with the days run when I get confronted by this middle aged dude who then proceeds to tell me how I am ruining my life assosciating with such "demons," as he points at a random poster. Then he looks over at the pole across the street that I had just covered and he starts to get really testy. I asked him what he thought we should do? Should I spend the time pulling each and every pamphlet out of the pole, postering under them, then replacing a pamphlet that is distributed by a naive ass such as yourself? I then got another earful. Like whatever, give your pamphlets out if anyone will take em, fine. But I really dont think people are stopping to look at a monty's poster, finding one of them and going AHHHHHHH! This is the answer!! - Thu, 8 Sep 2005 9:30am | ||
| Metropol Steve User Info... | If a venue ultimately recieves the fine when a band puts up posters for a specific event, then logically when devout Christians put up illegal posters, Victoria Bylaw Officers should then pass off the fine to God. If I know anything about God - it's that he has no problem raising $200. - Thu, 8 Sep 2005 1:59pm | ||
| Brian VIHC User Info... | I think you'd have to actually catch the christian pamphleteers in the act in order to fine them, since any contact info on the pamphlets themselves is undoubtedly directing the reader to some Texas bible research centre. I suspect bylaw enforcement in this area is weighted more heavily against what are deemed "commercial" advertisements, which is why a handful of lost cat posters go unnoticed (and well they should be), whereas show posters are considered an "eyesore". I just stick to cafes and public notice boards. - Thu, 8 Sep 2005 5:37pm | ||
| Peter Gardner User Info... | On a related topic: Whats the deal with the Poster cylanders down town? Latley I've seen them completly stripped. Whos been doing this? - Thu, 8 Sep 2005 7:02pm | ||
| Brian VIHC User Info... | The city cleans them off regularly. Otherwise they'd be so fat you wouldn't be able to walk around them. - Thu, 8 Sep 2005 8:08pm | ||
| Matt/Bosevus User Info... | I was out on a run tonight in Saanich and was stopped by a cop. She asked what we were doing, asked if we were using staple guns to put posters on telephone polls, and then told us to carry on. - Fri, 9 Sep 2005 1:05am | ||
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