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What's a typical price for a seven inch record?
| Message Board > Music Chitchat - Heavy > What's a typical price for a seven inch record? |
| Kyle User Info... | Just trying to get a consensus on a typical price for seven inch records... I don't have a record player, hence my ignorance. Any thoughts? - Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:37pm | ||
| Sedlec User Info... | Do you mean getting them pressed yourself or selling copies? for pressing yourself, here's some examples: http://www.urpressing.com/pricing/vinyl/7inch.php - Wed, 15 Jul 2009 2:07pm | ||
| Bryan User Info... | And if you mean selling them, 5 bucks. - Wed, 15 Jul 2009 2:27pm | ||
| Kyle User Info... | To clarify, I meant for selling. Thanks for the link though Sedlec, I'll have a look at that too. - Wed, 15 Jul 2009 4:07pm | ||
| T. Depression User Info... | Up until a couple years ago, the price of a new 7" was $5. Now, with people opting for fancy pressing options/expensive packaging, etc...the prices are often more like $7. I used to pay $2.25 to $2.50 US average wholesale on a record...now I pay $3.50 to $4.50...makes it nearly impossible to sell alot of stuff for $5. You can still press 7"'s for a cost of about $2.00 a pop if you want to...so retailing 'em for $5 is still possible. A five dollar 7" sounds the same as a $7 or $8...but what do you do? - Wed, 15 Jul 2009 4:11pm | ||
| LETSGETRAD! User Info... | yeah usually about 5 bucks if it was marbled or swirled or coloured or something id of course expect to pay a few bucks more for it - Wed, 15 Jul 2009 4:46pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | 1" records are also an option, as long as the songs are called "Hemorrhoidal Dance of Death" and "Patches Are For Posers". - Wed, 15 Jul 2009 5:40pm | ||
| LETSGETRAD! User Info... | LIMITED 666 RUNS ONLY - Wed, 15 Jul 2009 6:24pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | You must be thinking of the Slight Slappers 2". There's only 14 copies of the Spazz record. - Wed, 15 Jul 2009 6:52pm | ||
| Tyler User Info... | 7"s at $2/pop? maybe if you're doing a large run, black vinyl with hand-stamped labels, and punk-style sneaking into an office building to use their photocopier for DIY jackets, cheap stampers by someone who doesn't know what they're doing, created from an unmastered laquer, etc. united (read: shit vinyl for cheap) recently put a giant surcharge on pressing orders. they used to be the cheapest. shipping always kills for anyone putting out a record in canada. there aren't any pressing plants in canada. the closest we have is brokers like samo media, who in turn use erika to press. erika does a good job but it costs a little more. bill smith is a reliable choice to press but also costs a little more. I'm not too familiar with archer or rainbo but, from what I understand, they're kind of middle-of-the-ground in terms of quality and price. I think it's reasonable to charge $5-7 canadian for a 7" if there is something special about the packaging, or if they were recorded and mastered well and pressed at a good plant. if the record looks like a pretty typical black/white jacketed, thin black record, kind of half-assed effort, $3-5 could be alright. for the record, I'm not really a huge fan of pirates press-style splatter vomit vinyl. from what I understand, they outsource to GZ in the czech republic where workers are sort of exploited, plus the transportation method for pirates press to GZ involves digital conversion even if the recording process is all-analog. I'm okay with a step of digitization, but not if it's hidden from the label and artist. I do, however, like thoughtful handmade packaging beyond a photocopier, thick records, and something that looks like it's meant to last. - Thu, 16 Jul 2009 9:40am | ||
| T. Depression User Info... | Lucky Laquers in Seattle can always get you a decent deal...they advertized $750 US for 400 black and 100 colored for the longest time...but can get you deals on other numbers. $750 US works out to $839 Canadian...and I'm down in Seattle enough that I don't have to worry about postage to Canada. Even with ferry costs and incidentals figured in, that's 500 7"'s for around $1000..or $2 a pop. I can silk screen 500, two colored sleeves in an afternoon for pennies each. Now most US plants are now inplementing a surcharge, so prices will go up....plus more people are pressing vinyl these days, so turnarounds are shit. Personally...I hate Pirates Press styled packaging, etc. Slick, souless records that look like major label novelties. I'd rather have a decent record pressed on plain black in a black and white sleeve, than a fancy looking fashion accessory that they wanna charge me $2 more for. Records are about the fucking MUSIC...packaging is just something to look at while you listen to the songs. That being said...7 inches are my format of choice...I've got thousands of 'em, and I'll probably never stop buying them. I hate bands that don't own record players, buyt press 'em up as novelties to sell to people who love "vinyl" for $8 a pop on their merch table. 7 inches were always great, because (besides tapes) they were the cheapest, legitimate way to get your songs out there. Let's keep it that way... - Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:34am | ||
| Tyler User Info... | hey T, thanks for the tip on Lucky Laquers. I didn't know there were brokers with deal hookups in Seattle. that might be the best for someone in Victoria, even, assuming that package deal includes most of the additional charges. do you know which plant they use? I'll look into them. postage to canada suuuucks and avoiding that would make your claim totally possible. 7"s are awesome and I don't mind that more bands are putting them out again. maybe they're about more than music to me, it gives bands more space for art or writing or whatever. I'm turned off by full-colour printing but I like a happy medium of screened art, hand-glued covers, and whatever new and interesting ideas people can come up with (iron lung's transparencies on their recent 7" is pretty rad) - Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:54am Edited: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:56am | ||
| T. Depression User Info... | Yeah...Lucky deals with all the US pressing plants, as they do Laquers for most of the plants. I've never heard a complaint about Lucky Laquers...no plant wants to fuck with them either, cause they don't wanna lose their services. Even if you deal directly with any US plant and have the records shipped to a friend in Seattle, and then pick 'em up....you'll probably save some cash. People are really afraid of things like postage costs, dealing with US companies, etc...and end up spending way too much on records through Canadian brokers like Vinyl Record Guru(outa Nanaimo) and others. Inventive packaging is cool...but these micro presses and limited covers and shit have gotten ridiculous. I hate record collectors..buy records because you're a music lover...not because something is rare and desireable! - Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:22pm | ||
| superslacks User Info... | Speaking as a huge fan of vinyl as well as currently waiting on a sizeable order from the czech republic . . . I gotta say this notion that vinyl is ONLY about the music is such a load of shit. Firstly, virtually none of it today makes it to press without first going through digital filters, even if it's just at mastering. Sure you COULD go all analogue production, but to do it right it would cost a fortune to record so you wouldn't be doing a $2 7" at any rate. Buy the CD or download if you care about sound quality. So I'll catch some flack for that last statement, but if you disagree (as I do) ask yourself - why do you need to have something physical anyway? The whole idea of recorded music (versus live) is to create a permanent artifact. So it only makes sense to make that physical product be as good as you can. People who see vinyl as a novelty will do so whether it's a nice package with obvious effort involved, or one of T.'s shit-ass productions. To me, listening to vinyl is about the EXPERIENCE - the fact that you drop the needle and only have a certain amount of time before you have to lift, flip, swap, whatever - it means you have to pay more attention to the music, you can't really go off and have it playing in the background. . . And what are you doing while listening? Looking at the packaging, reading the credits, discussing it with your buddy . . . this is when I appreciate a nice package, not some shitty incoherent fold-over that just looks like some talentless hack's attempt to gain some cred by putting out their cheaply recorded shite on a format they don't really understand. But that's just me . . . I'll take the $6-8 singles any day. - Thu, 16 Jul 2009 1:40pm | ||
| Tyler User Info... | T: they may deal with a lot of pressing plants but surely they have a "main" pressing plant that they use for, for example, the package deal you quoted earlier. the website appears to indicate that the guy is temporarily busy. I think there's a broker upisland too but I think a dedicated person should be able to customize their order to the same level as working directly with a plant like united, bill smith, rainbo, archer, erika, etc. hey superslacks, you're right! that's why I said "I'm okay with a step of digitization, but not if it's hidden from the label and artist". if I were to put out a record from a musician's perspective, I'd probably still record/mix/master in digital states, albeit at a higher than CD quality if possible. but I've heard stories about people recording and mastering with Steve Albini in all-analog and finding out after-the-fact about Pirates/GZ's transportation method. and that's not really a fair business practice. I know what T was talking about regarding "novelty" vinyl. Trash Talk's live 7", limited to 55 or something, that sells on eBay for hundreds of dollars even though it's a shitty recording, comes to mind. good packaging isn't the same as novelty vinyl. I believe record collectors do listen to their records though. I do. my roommate and I keep our record player in the living room and jam a few records a day. it's great and so is looking at the packaging while it's playing! I'm with you on appreciating a record past the music that's on it. - Thu, 16 Jul 2009 3:17pm Edited: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 3:20pm | ||
| superslacks User Info... | Well, in typical T.D. style he says he hates record collectors - do you feel the love? Who does he think is buying records, then? - Thu, 16 Jul 2009 3:50pm | ||
| T. Depression User Info... | C'mon...there is a distict difference between people who buy records (even LOTS of records) and record collectors. When I say that I hate record collectors, I mean the guys who buy records just for the sake of "owning" them and talking about which records they own. If you really love music you shouldn't care what format it's on...and yes, downloading may be an option. I used to buy 7 inches because they were the cheapest way to check out as many bands as possible. In some cases, it still is. Vanity presses, novelty vinyl, cover and color variations...it's all crap. I started a label a few years ago as a joke...7 inches, limited to 75 copies or less(lathe cut) with screened sleeves and stoopid cover variations...putting out records that nobody needs. Nobody got the joke...the records that I was selling for $5 a pop now sell for over $100 on Ebay. Shit like this is the norm these days. On the other hand, you've got dozens of bands going with the slick, overseas record pressing packages and ending up with fancy colored vynil, thick cardboard sleeves,and stickers/posters/fancy inserts/whatever other bells and whistles they offer....and all the records have this sterile, manufactured look to 'em. Where's the personal touch? Plus the bands now feel they can charge more for the fancy package...and are pricing the records at $8. The last record one of my bands got done through Pirates Press cost about $1600 all said and done, for 500 copies (not my choice...I think the record looks like shit). Can't see why you'd need to charge anything more than $5 or $6 for that record. - Thu, 16 Jul 2009 4:41pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | another one of my annoying asides: "...the records that I was selling for $5 a pop now sell for over $100 on Ebay." cool!.......which ones? - Thu, 16 Jul 2009 6:04pm | ||
| T. Depression User Info... | Not cool. You think people paying $100+ for a hunk of plastic with a couple songs on it is cool? Maybe if the thing came out 30 years ago...but it's sad when something that came out two weeks ago is deemed instantly valuable. Shit like this... http://www.popsike.com/busy-signals-7-carbonas-hozac-termbo-kbd-ssld-reatards/280213533446.html - Thu, 16 Jul 2009 6:21pm | ||
| Tyler User Info... | not big on the richard king new zealand lathes (that's who you used, right?) and I think you're confusing the "cool packaging" that I'm talking about with full-colour jacket printing which is decidedly not that great, though still potentially better than a b/w photocopy. I'm talking like... the apoplexy twist orchestra lp with hand-cut newspaper or how cowards hand-ties their releases with twine or pg 99 and their "crimescene" style releases or architects' (now faithealer) roadmap transparency sheets. stuff that goes with the theme of an album, has a homemade feel with a lot of thought put into it, and creates a lasting memory. cool that your lathes sold for so much. I think it might potentially be the kind of music you listen to as well, though. pretty sure a lot of that stuff easily falls into the realm of "collectible" records. not just because of the limited pressings, but also because of the nature of the bands and fans. I don't think anyone buys records for the sake of talking about owning them. seriously? that doesn't make any sense. - Thu, 16 Jul 2009 7:23pm | ||
| T. Depression User Info... | TONS of collectors buy records just to for the sake of owning them. It's not liek the 80's and early 90's when the only place to hear some of this stuff was by buying the 7"...almost everything is out there on the internet somewhere. If you can download the Mp3's and art from some guys blog...why are people spending $500 on some 70's punk 45...or $6000 on some 60's garage record. It's just to own an original. Shit I've got record collector tendencies too...I could rip every 7" that own to my computer and sell off everything that's worth over $50...or $100, etc...and make a tidy piece of change...but I don't. After spending years trying to track those records down for cheap...it's hard to let them go. Now everything can be had instantly on Enay, if you've got the money. I think I'd find it alot easier to let stuff go if I'd only invested a buncha money in it...and not all that time. Yeah...Peter king's lathes are pretty hit or miss. I've done two with him, and probably won't do any more. I was trying to do releases that were as hand-made as possible...lathed in some dudes workshop...with screened sleeves/labels, etc. Quality just wasn't there on the records though. I'm all for cool packaging...but I like to see a little bit of the band/label in the finished product. Anybody can just throw a buncha money at someone and get 'em to make 'em a record....why not go the extra step and put a personal touch on it? - Thu, 16 Jul 2009 8:01pm | ||
| Curmudgeon Rocker User Info... | so who's gonna start bidding? http://cgi.ebay.ca/MEATSHITS-make-me-c-m-7-MEGARARE-grind-gore-noise_W0QQitemZ380129725740QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item58817f4d2c&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116 - Fri, 17 Jul 2009 7:15am | ||
| Kyle User Info... | Cool... sounds like the aesthetics of it play a role & pricing may range between $5 and $8, depending on the overall quality of the product... - Fri, 17 Jul 2009 1:32pm | ||
| T. Depression User Info... | It's also who you're marketing it to and what kind of music you play. If you're doing a DIY punk release, you may get alot of flack and have a hard time selling a record for more than $5 or $6. If you're doing an indie-rock release,etc, people may have no problem spending $8 on it. - Fri, 17 Jul 2009 1:59pm | ||
| The Laundronauts User Info... | HEY VINYL FANS!! IN THE SPIRIT OF THIS THREAD, AND THE FACT THAT THE TEST PRESSING FOR OUR DEBUT ALBUM, RECORDED AND PRODUCED BY JIM DIAMOND (WHITE STRIPES, ROMANTICS, LOVE ME NOTS, VON BONDIES) IN DETROIT JUST ARRIVED FIVE MINUTES AGO . . . . THE LAUNDRONAUTS WILL BE OFFERING ONE (AND ONLY ONE!!!!) OF OUR VERY RARE (WE ONLY GOT FIVE) TEST PRESSINGS ON ULTRA-RARE BLACK VINYL! WE HAVEN'T EVEN LISTENED TO IT YET!! WE WILL DO A SILENT AUCTION AT OUR SHOW TONIGHT AT LOGAN'S!!! SEE YOU THERE! -THE LAUNDRONAUTS - Fri, 17 Jul 2009 5:30pm | ||
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