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BRICKYARD A BUST
| Message Board > General Chitchat > BRICKYARD A BUST |
| Jake Warren User Info... | Due to the lack of any and all required licenses for live music, booze w/o food service and a decent capacity (more than 40!) the Brickyard shows I have booked are all cancelled. A huge apology to all the people this is going to affect. Turns out the venue was being targeted by a few Yates Street merchants who didn't want the hassle of a live venue near by and they were the ones who called the liquor inspector. Again, I am sorry this has happened. I had no idea this was how this would end up. Jake - Mon, 27 Apr 2009 4:10pm | ||
| Nicholas Antoni Marek Gibas User Info... | bummer - Mon, 27 Apr 2009 7:07pm | ||
| zedius User Info... | It'd be interesting to know who a few yates street merchants are. - Tue, 28 Apr 2009 8:32am | ||
| Tyler User Info... | another one bites the dust. this really sucks. brickyard was starting to hit a new golden age of awesome shows. this is right around camas running into trouble as well. I love how our "arts-supportive city" is getting harder and harder to put on shows in. - Tue, 28 Apr 2009 1:45pm | ||
| steve User Info... | James bay rugby club house! - Tue, 28 Apr 2009 2:40pm Edited: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 2:41pm | ||
| moron User Info... | I think that some local political organizing is going to have to happen here. This is our town and the local bureaucracy needs to keep in mind that there are others that pay taxes here besides whomever was complaining about the Brickyard (if there even were any complaints, that could be total bullshit for all we know). Cheers - Tue, 28 Apr 2009 3:05pm | ||
| BBJones User Info... | Political organizing to do what? Allow businesses to operate outside of their licensing? - Tue, 28 Apr 2009 3:20pm | ||
| Tyler User Info... | hahaha - Tue, 28 Apr 2009 3:44pm | ||
| Yo Mama User Info... | I hate to say it, but if they didn't have the proper license it is no one's fault but their own. Whether or not a business called it in is irrelevant. Shitty, but irrelevant. - Tue, 28 Apr 2009 4:16pm | ||
| CL User Info... | You don't need a licence to put on live music. Capacity/liquor/noise are of course different matters. - Tue, 28 Apr 2009 6:12pm | ||
| Matteus User Info... | Hey Jake and Brickyard, what EXACTLY did they nail you on? - Tue, 28 Apr 2009 6:57pm | ||
| Matteus User Info... | no idea at all? - Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:19pm | ||
| Peter Gardner User Info... | You kind of should have seen this coming, knowing you were operating outside of your license. I thought the idea was great. I suppose if it was something you did enjoy, perhaps you could look into rectifying your license? - Thu, 30 Apr 2009 1:03pm | ||
| Ty Stranglehold User Info... | The Brickyard ran into this exact problem back in 2000. The problem with their licencing is that they do not have a cabaret licence that would allow them to serve alcohol and have live music. Back then it was the hotel across the street making the complaints. I'm sure it still is. I was really looking forward to playing there this weekend since I played my first show there almost ten years ago to the week. I kind of figured it would go down this way though. - Fri, 1 May 2009 10:33am | ||
| Nicholas Antoni Marek Gibas User Info... | I was looking forward to playing there and making fun of all the cokeheads between songs. - Fri, 1 May 2009 12:40pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Cokeheads in a pizza joint? I doubt it. - Fri, 1 May 2009 4:45pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | No time for food........ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGN9yWbqksU - Fri, 1 May 2009 5:26pm | ||
| Jake Warren User Info... | some interesting comments guys. as far as ME knowing about the licensing issues before hand, you are partly correct. The thing is, I am not the venue owner. I was contracted by the owner to organize these shows. Like an idiot, i assumed after owning the biz for more than 6 years, he would know what he was allowed to do in the space. I just can't believe he let me move forward on all this without the right licenses. Yes, I agree it was his fault for trying to do all of this under the radar. And for anyone who cares, it was the ODEON THEATRE who called the liquor inspector. We got nailed for no Cabaret license - which allows live music and liquor service - over capacity (which is 40) and serving liquor to people who weren't eating. And no, I don't believe you need a special license for live music but you do if there is going to be dancing and liquor service as well. - Sat, 2 May 2009 10:16am | ||
| CL User Info... | Hmm. Shows what I know. Our liquor license doesn't say anything about music or entertainment. Too bad, anyway - I fuckin' CAN'T STAND IT when people maliciously fuck with someone trying to make an honest go in business. I know people might argue that not having the right license is not making an honest go, but it strikes me the whole idea of needing a license to allow drinking and dancing is fucking retarded. - Sat, 2 May 2009 10:50am | ||
| Matteus User Info... | "but it strikes me the whole idea of needing a license to allow drinking and dancing is fucking retarded" HERE HERE!! Someone made a comment about a rally and in turn someone said it was stupid, but I don't think that it's that far fetched. When it comes to liquor licenses, Vic PD have the final say on liquor primary and they don't want anyone getting them cause it causes to many problems for them. something silly like 3 new liquor primary licenses in the last 10 years, the new places you see popping up are currently existing ones. Andrew from STEAMERS was able to sell his license for $600,000. That gives you an idea of how much people want to get a hold of one. Rally city hall or VIC PD? Is it so bad that people want to dance, drink and listen to music? And Jake, take some ownership of this too. "Like an idiot, i assumed after owning the biz for more than 6 years, he would know what he was allowed to do in the space. I just can't believe he let me move forward on all this without the right licenses" That's like me being hired to be a hitman and blaming the contractor for not informing me that murder was illegal. Both parties fault, equally. - Sat, 2 May 2009 1:21pm Edited: Sat, 2 May 2009 1:25pm | ||
| Chopper User Info... | Not surprised it was the Odeon owner. Guy's a real fucking prick. He owns the stretch from the brickyard to the small store on the alley. A friend of mine used to hang out in piss alley selling weed. The small store there, as well as the surrounding businesses like the pizza shope that was in the alley, loved him being there as it cut down the graffiti and junkies. Who calls the pigs, even though he's saving the old prick $1000's having to do cleanup? The owner of the Odeon... - Sat, 2 May 2009 1:52pm | ||
| Matteus User Info... | what is said owners name? - Sat, 2 May 2009 9:54pm | ||
| Chopper User Info... | Can't recall his name but it's easily found out with a call to city records. - Sun, 3 May 2009 10:01am | ||
| Ty Stranglehold User Info... | The owner of the Odeon's name is Pierre I believe. - Sun, 3 May 2009 2:06pm | ||
| _Griphin_ User Info... | The reason the Brickyard can't have live bands is cause the hotel across the street bitched to City Hall regarding the Birth of Sickess fiasco (killer set, noone destroyed anything, we all got rather drunk), so if Jake books any bands and brags about booking Brickyard gigs he should look into licencing. I'm rather steamed about the Dr. Know fiasco, cause one moron can't get the necessary paperwork, the talent suffers? - Sun, 3 May 2009 5:14pm | ||
| Yo Mama User Info... | I understand Dr. Know didn't happen because he couldn't get into the country, not the Brickyard deal. And the Odeon guy's name is Pierre Gauthier. - Mon, 4 May 2009 10:44am | ||
| Jake Warren User Info... | i appreciate your comment Matteus but as for your comparison of my situation and that of a hit-man murdering someone, c'mon dude - the guy has owned the business for almost a decade, it's not my place as a contracted promoter to hold his hand and ask him if he's allowed to actually house live music etc... yes, i take ownership of this - but it was his job to inform me of the obvious risks. If I had known we were trying to fly under the radar I would have booked one show and tested the waters - not organized over 2 months of dates. oh well. - Fri, 8 May 2009 2:40pm | ||
| Tia User Info... | This is a very unfortunate situation, and all parties are to blame, but to be honest, the only reason why ANY of this went down is because Jake was doing what he thought was the right thing by informing Pierre of the shows that he had booked. He was being honest to Pierre and in any NORMAL situation with a NORMAL person this would be the right approach, but, with Pierre it isn't. I am the manager of the Brickyard, and we were booking shows before Jake got hired, and not informing Pierre of any of this, and nothing came out of it but a good time. THE MINUTE Jake told Pierre about any of this I guarantee he was on the horn to the liquor inspectors. The guy HATES anybody having a fun time, and he also hates "hoodlums" outside of the Odeon "scaring" away his customers. Jake wasn't FULLY informed of what was going on with the liquor licensing, and I haven't been either and that is why I am meeting with them at 2pm today to hopefully smooth some things over and find out what we CAN and CANNOT do. Jake, I am sorry it ended up the way it did, and I hope everything works out for you man. - Tue, 12 May 2009 12:51pm | ||
| Eat My Sugar User Info... | Their pizza is crusty anyway! Get it? LOL - Fri, 26 Jun 2009 2:20pm | ||
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