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Victoria City Politics and the Plot to Take Over the World
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| DAJ User Info... | Victoria City Politics and the Plot to Take Over the World - Alrighty... we have the new mayor, Dean Fortin, on video stating that if we took the tent-city to the Legislature lawn he would supply the porta-potties. Quaintly cute at first glance, I would advise closer scrutiny. The city has given indication that it would prefer the tent-city thing be taken on by the province which, in my submission, means regional tent-cities where those without property or the means and opportunity of other people's 'property' could be interned. They (the city and province) will fight tooth and nail to avoid the notion of every municipality having to sport their own tent-cities, and I expect them to fail. The city will continue pretending like public opinion has some sort of say in the right to deny people the ability to take care of themselves and they will continue to manufacture 'public opinion'. The spirit of the Supreme Court of BC ruling on 'homeless' people being able to construct their own temporary shelter is that an 'across the board' prohibition is unconstitutional. What the city has done in response to this, using the excuse that the judge agreed that the city has the authority to create new Constitutionally compliant bylaws to manage how tents can be allowed, was to ignore the 'Constitutionally compliant' part and suggest that instead of having a 24/7 'across the board' prohibition they are allowed to have a 12 hour a day 'across the board' prohibition. They are enforcing it, acting as if they have the right to. People have been arrested for 'Obstruction of Justice' in not complying and go to court (WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 19TH at 2:00 PM in Courtroom #103) to plea 'not guilty' and set a trial date. It is expected that the first thing determined at this trial will be whether or not the City is in Contempt of Court. Which they are. In the meantime, there is going to be much spin-doctoring and hate propaganda directed at the notion of tent-city and all those who like them. The city will be dedicating much energy into mats on floors in churches and overflow in the emergency shelters. These things are not adequate, not only because of the culture of violence and drugs that asserts itself in these places, but also because there is no just reason to not presume innocence of people in their ability to take care of themselves, providing their own survival. Speaking of shelters and the such... there is a phenomenon called 'poverty pimps' and right now some of them are busy crucifying Reverend Al Tysick so that the new 'Our Place' can be completely corporate run and devoid of any compassion beyond allowable maintenance criteria. I also expect organizations like Food Not Bombs to be made illegal unless they apply for licensing to share food. Have you noticed the condemnation from the media and police towards people who live in houses that help those that don't? The subtle conditioning that would have people think that only those with the least means and opportunities can help themselves. The 'take over the world' management plan will leave survival to said 'poverty pimp' corporations with the help of municipal and regional bylaws that restrict things like having more than 4 non-relatives residing on a 'property' and sleeping in cars. Whether or not the city is found guilty of Contempt of Court will indicate how we will all face the future. If I am not forced into an internment camp I will facilitate, from my temporary abode in my tent-city, Gardens Not Lawns (a massive volunteer campaign offering free labour and expertise in converting lawns into food producing gardens). David Arthur Johnston Victoria, BC, Canada [email protected] Home page- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman Journal of the Occupation of St. Ann's Academy (Victoria, BC, Canada)- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman/welcome.htm Crimes of Necessity- http://www.loveandfearlessness.com (from filmmaker Andrew Ainsley. Very comprehensive.) - Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:05pm | ||
| stew User Info... | "The city will continue pretending like public opinion has some sort of say in the right to deny people the ability to take care of themselves and they will continue to manufacture 'public opinion'." Likewise DAJ, There is a difference between a right to freedom from torture and a right to erect tent cities. The social right of adequate shelter already exists, and yes, your right to sleep movement has put considerable pressure on the government, municipally at least, to try follow through. Further, we should not think of social rights as simply giving everyone a free supply of the goods these rights protect. Guarantees of things like food and housing will be intolerably expensive and will undermine productivity if everyone simply receives a free supply. It wouldbe naive of you to think tent cities wouldn't require considerable government resources to support. - Tue, 18 Nov 2008 1:17pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | ... lol ... - Tue, 18 Nov 2008 1:17pm | ||
| BBJones User Info... | "In the meantime, there is going to be much spin-doctoring and hate propaganda ..." Unlike your bullshit? You will never, ever get what you want. Ever. - Tue, 18 Nov 2008 1:19pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Send Ringtone We got some thin we both know it, We dont talk too much about it Aint no real big secret, all the same, Somehow we get around it Listen, it dont really matter to me Baby, you believe what you wanna believe You see, you dont have to live like a refugee Somewhere, somehow, somebody must have Kicked you around some Tell me why you wanna lay there, Revel in your abandon Honey, it dont make no difference to me Baby, everybodys had to fight to be fre e You see, you dont have to live like a refugee No baby, you dont have to live like a refugee Baby, we aint the first Im sure a lot of other lovers been burned Right now this aint real to you Its one of those things you got to feel to be true Somewhere, somehow, somebody must have Kicked you around some Who knows, maybe you were kidnapped, Tied-up, taken away, and held for ransom Honey, it dont really matter to me Baby, everybodys ha d to fight to be free You see, you dont have to live like a refugee No, you dont have to live like a refugee Baby, you dont have to live like a refugee - Tue, 18 Nov 2008 1:39pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | WoW I can finally understand Tom Petty - Tue, 18 Nov 2008 4:37pm | ||
| DAJ User Info... | well, actually, you will have to live like a refugee. - Tue, 18 Nov 2008 6:21pm | ||
| BBJones User Info... | Um no... you will. - Wed, 19 Nov 2008 7:15am | ||
| Crux User Info... | DAJ, just because you want to live like a refugee, doesn't mean everyone else has to. go 5 miles north from the last house by the trees, set up tent city there. you don't work, obviously don't like people yet seem to feel the need to be around them. no ones gonna fuck with you if you just get the fuck away from everyone. - Wed, 19 Nov 2008 1:21pm | ||
| Aidan Logins User Info... | That was actually a pretty lucid post, DAJ. I'm impressed. "a massive volunteer campaign offering free labour and expertise in converting lawns into food producing gardens" Awesome. I've been thinking for years about starting something like this. I've always found the huge excess of lawns pretty ridiculous. There's a guerrilla gardening group in town that plants gardens in places that are just empty soil around Victoria. But I've always thought they should plant food. It just seems to make more sense. I mean, sure flowers are pretty, but so are the edible ones? What's more pretty than a blooming broccoli? - Wed, 19 Nov 2008 2:38pm | ||
| KRIEG User Info... | What's more pretty than a blooming broccoli? A DAJ beard set aflame? A DAJ tent in ruins? A DAJ holding a bouquet of roses because he's got a job at a florist? - Wed, 19 Nov 2008 4:01pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | "I've always found the huge excess of lawns pretty ridiculous." why? - Wed, 19 Nov 2008 4:47pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | I love my lawn. So do the dogs. - Wed, 19 Nov 2008 8:06pm | ||
| Sati User Info... | I always dreamed of having a big lawn in front of and around my house. I grew up right near Little Mountain, which is gorgeous. And the apartment building I grew up in had this HUGE lawn in front. Watched and played tons of games on there. Tons of big dogs around back then. Whatever goes on about these homeless THEY BETTER DAMN WELL take good care of their animals, if they choose to have any, or they're dirt to me. I saw a homeless guy leading around this skinny, weak, malnutritioned dog a few years ago and I wanted to beat him to a pulp. Most of the guys I see on the street with dogs look like they take decent care of them. - Wed, 19 Nov 2008 8:43pm Edited: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 8:45pm | ||
| Aidan Logins User Info... | Oh I just think it's too much. A lot of people don't use their lawns, and a LOT of people try way too hard to make them look good. This results in huge amounts of fertilizers and pesticides ending up in the ocean, which kills fish (by choking them out with algae blooms or by a chain of killing starting with small shit that the pesticides kill). Not to mention pollution caused by lawnmowers. "regulators in California estimate that using a chain-saw for two hours produces as much pollution as ten cars each driving 250 miles"--- obviously a chainsaw is not a lawnmower, but just giving an example of small engine pollution. It can be a lot worse than larger engines because they aren't regulated the same. I mean, it's not a huge deal to me, it's just that a lot of people feel like they NEED to have a lawn just because that's what everyone else has. I think it would be cool to have a campaign that supports changing some of your lawn into a food producing and still beautiful garden. And with native plants that don't need much care, if any. I have a fairly large lawn. But I have more wilderness and a food garden as well. And my lawn is not fertilized, herbicized, pesticized, and barely mowed (we prefer to let our wildflowers and mushrooms take over). - Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:26am | ||
| Mike User Info... | I hate mowing the lawn. My lawn is covered in dog shit and rotting tomato plants now. And dog holes. Its like a minefield of traps and dog poo, and when you fall, you get a face full of rancid ketchup. I took good care of my front lawn.. with a truck full of gravel. DAJ.. get a job you mooch. Stop using freebie internet connections paid for by others to spread your filth. - Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:40pm | ||
| Andrew User Info... | john lennon, malcolm X, JFK, Jimi Hendrix.... and this guy is still alive. what the fuck - Thu, 27 Nov 2008 6:30pm | ||
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| DAJ User Info... | The Way Out Of Hell (St. Ann's update- Dec. 5th, 2008) - I got up to the courtroom just as the city's lawyer and Irene were finishing their teleconference with Supreme Court Justice Ross (presiding judge in the 'right to sleep' case). The city was suggesting to Ross that when she said, "In the present case I am mindful of the fact that there are many different ways in which the City could approach the reconciliation of the rights of the homeless with the objectives of preservation of parks. In these circumstances I have concluded that the course that is most appropriate is to grant a declaration that the Bylaws are of no force and effect insofar as they apply to prevent homeless people from erecting temporary shelter." that she just forgot to add 'at night' at the end. Ross did not agree and told them the order stands as it is. The city will be getting a letter from our lawyer today suggesting the city drop the charges against me and Tavis and repeal their illegal enforcement policy lest they face the condemnation of the court. DECEMBER 31ST at the latest, when Tavis and I are scheduled to appear for trial for accumulating too many of the city's, now publicly and legally known to be, illegal Bylaw Enforcement Policy tickets for having 'temporary abodes' after 7:00 AM. Somebody is going down for this. The 'Crown' is abandoning that ship... now plotting how to best use it to their advantage. A taste of nobility might go a long way in improving its image. People really like to be trusted. Patience be with us all. David Arthur Johnston Victoria, BC, Canada [email protected] Home page- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman Journal of the Occupation of St. Ann's Academy (Victoria, BC, Canada)- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman/welcome.htm Crimes of Necessity- http://www.loveandfearlessness.com (from filmmaker Andrew Ainsley. Very comprehensive.) Concise Coverage of Victoria Municipal Politics- http://electionsvictoria.ca - Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:51am | ||
| Dan Long User Info... | DAJ, your a fucking loser. Ive met you in person and I must say that you are one of the biggest douches in this city. Work a job or sell drugs and get yourself a home and a life. Make your way in the world. stop telling other people how to live. nobody wants to hear it. Your the kind of homeless person that deserves to be hunted as prey. - Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:05pm | ||
| Dan Long User Info... | You think youre an intelligent human being but trust me, youre not. You obviously suffer from some kind of mental illness. - Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:10pm | ||
| Zedius User Info... | The mentally ill deserve to be hunted as prey? - Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:32pm | ||
| Zedius User Info... | DAJ, what is your definition of 'temporary shelter'? Do you have any interest at all in temporary shelter? - Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:35pm | ||
| Dan Long User Info... | If he has enough energy to post on here all the time then he has enough drive to be a productive member of our horde. I suffer from undiagnosed mental illnesses and I am self aware enough to realize that. I still function just fine as a member of our society. So could DAJ if he chose to do that instead of wasting his time posting his delusions to the whole music scene. - Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:37pm | ||
| BBJones User Info... |  Homeless people will not be allowed to maintain a tent city in downtown parks. Period. We/the city already have multiple ways to deal with it. If the currently played card fails, the next card will be put into play (like the fact that the city has temporary beds in place that aren't being used). - Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:54pm | ||
| ciao User Info... | DAJ forgot to include the part of the ruling that mentions a shortage of shelter beds as being the reason the city can't ban homeless folks from tenting in a park. There were plenty of beds available during DAJ's recent Centennial Square camp-out. - Fri, 5 Dec 2008 3:11pm | ||
| Doc User Info... | Yup yup. I think the article said there was something like 20 beds available that night. While this recent developement may put the kibosh on the city's new by-law, I don't see it affecting the pending case against DAJ because there were available beds so he was in fact not adhering to the supreme court ruling himself. I hope that they lock him up. ~Keeping the world safe from democracy. Doc - Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:27am | ||
| DAJ User Info... | you're misinformed- the only stipulation is that only 'homeless' people may erect 'temporary abodes' on municipal public access space. - Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:35pm | ||
| mIndlessMikeyJay User Info... | for fuck sakes..... FUCK OFF. - Sat, 6 Dec 2008 1:07pm | ||
| ciao User Info... | Hey DAJ - how are things over at your uncle's place? It sure must be nice to have the option of a living in a house out in the 'burbs when you aren't busy being homeless downtown. - Sat, 6 Dec 2008 1:30pm | ||
| Doc User Info... | Quoth the honourable Justice Ross, "...in the absence of sufficient safe and secure beds for the homeless, it was unconstitutional for the city to prevent them from erecting some form of overhead shelter to protect themselves from the elements." Now, for those of you who lack reading and/or comprehension skills {not so subtle look at DAJ} this means that there needs to be ZERO shelter beds available in order for you to leagally erect a TEMPORARY structure. Given that the rest of the written decision never actually defines temporary, the City of Victoria is well within its legal rights to enact a by-law setting out that definition. If they really wanted to, they could pass a by-law saying that temporary means no longer than two hours. Since, as you said, Justice Ross said that the order stands as is, the new City by-law has just as much legitimacy now as it did before the teleconference. End result, you still loose David. ~Divine Justice against all who earn less than $40,000 per year! Doc - Sat, 6 Dec 2008 1:46pm | ||
| DAJ User Info... | St. Ann's update- Wed. Dec. 10th, 2008: Provincial Court VS. Supreme Court - Is there a 'right' to have an across-the-board prohibition on sleeping during the day? And, How would such policy be corrected, given the Supreme Court of BC has already ruled an across-the-board prohibition on sleep illegal, and the municipality ignores it while implementing a plan to circumvent it (re: abuse of process in the courts hoping to court a judge who is more than %50 directed by the manufactured public opinion that 'homeless' people do not deserve to sleep because they should be spending every second fighting to get back in the 'system'). I would rather not have to die in jail, though I ask myself, "What happens between now and a world of freedom?"... How to shine so brightly that all fear is washed away? I do not stress and do not despair, I remember I do not 'do' and enjoy patience, humbly trusting the spirit of love to take me where it will... it has been taking me to a grand enjoyment of calling out every asshole on their shit... it is good to know that to not like me means a person is only infected with laziness and cowardice, and face to face their rage cannot stand. Kristen is out of jail, likely joining Tavis and I in court on DECEMBER 31ST (9:30 AM in courtroom 203). We all feel like we're being raped... feeling that we have to play a political game where we have a massive propaganda machine against us through the indignation of the Chamber of Commerce (police and city hall) and the 'Crown' (anyone under the delusion that psychotic behaviour is necessary in the maintaining of order)... and feeling the looming threat that we actually will have to die in jail to make any statement at all. You will know who the good people are- they are the ones standing. Kristen could use a good sleeping bag... oh ya, and the last update said yesterday was the time limit we gave the city to drop the charges, I was wrong, it was today- though we received a letter back from the city's lawyer saying he would give the letter to all of the city councilors to give them a chance to discuss it at their meeting on Thursday then get back to us on Friday. in remembering Christmas is two words, David Arthur Johnston Victoria, BC, Canada [email protected] Home page- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman Journal of the Occupation of St. Ann's Academy (Victoria, BC, Canada)- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman/welcome.htm Crimes of Necessity- http://www.loveandfearlessness.com (from filmmaker Andrew Ainsley. Very comprehensive.) Concise Coverage of Victoria Municipal Politics- http://electionsvictoria.ca - Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:37pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | fuck off you lazy ass cry baby; take your sob story elsewhere. "Kristen could use a good sleeping bag" did the last one wear out from too many "in the bag" handstands? absolute morons; the whole lot of you! - Wed, 10 Dec 2008 2:18pm | ||
| ROSS B AY User Info... | daj, i wish you would just fucking die and get it over with. fucking waste of space. - Wed, 10 Dec 2008 2:43pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... |  You have the right to sleep. If you have a roof over your head ......and it's not made of plastic . Otherwise "WE, as tax payers". Should have the right to evict you,and not just the cops,THE PEOPLE. You are not doing anything for society. You are a stain go back home to mommy an daddy face it you are just trying to make your self feel excepted in your dirty little world ,and you might even get praise from your dirty little friends ,but to the rest of us you are nothing ,but people can't say that you have absolutely nothing! After all, you have inferiority! - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:39am Edited: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:53am | ||
| Bounce User Info... | Kristen Woodruff, le douche extraordinaire…here’s a little story I wrote, goes a little something like this. I wake up at 6am I get out of bed, shower, get dressed, wake up my child, get him dressed, feed him, feed the cat, do the dishes, tidy up, pack lunches, get in the car, drive to school and work. Work eight hours, drive through rush hour, pick up child, go to the grocery store, go home make dinner, feed the cat, do homework, do dishes, clean up toys, get my child in the bath, put him to bed, shower, and then by 9pm I can sit down and relax, and still amidst all that have to find time to be a friend and a girlfriend. And you guys are whining because you have be up and about from 7 to 7 doing absolutely nothing productive??? Fuck you. - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 9:05am Edited: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 9:10am | ||
| Dan Long User Info... | Bounce, you deserve great praise and respect for the life that you live. In my humble opinion. Peolple like you are the good in the world. People like DAJ are losers that need to be dominated and locked away or sent somewhere else where they can live out their shitty existence in peace. Or slaughtered in large numbers. There was a man who I won't name who had a concept of brotherhood and pride and truth and equality for all humanity. Most people hate the idea now. Thank you for being a true human being. Dan. - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:28am | ||
| Dan Long User Info... | DAJ, you and your loser friends should leave or kill yourselves before humanity wakes up and realizes what should be done with people like you. - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:30am | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Sounds like there is gonna be a stab. - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 1:12pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | ...or a vicious game of knifey spooney... - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 2:18pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Ghey - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 2:55pm | ||
| JDL User Info... | kinda like stabbing someone? - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 2:56pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Only if it's bum stabbing. "knifey spooney" on the other hand, totally ghey. Sounds like a game Mike Jackson plays with twelve year old boys. - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 3:04pm | ||
| J. Peatman User Info... | "There was a man who I won't name who had a concept of brotherhood and pride and truth and equality for all humanity." Except for the jews, gypsies, blacks, handicapped and political dissidents. Or were you referring to a different man? - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 3:10pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Archie Bunker? Go play knifey spooney with Meathead. "You will know who the good people are- they are the ones standing." Yeah, the ones standing and walking around cleaning up your homeless mess while the rest of you get your heads kicked in by the SWAT Team while trapped inside your tents. While it may seem far fetched that the SWAT Team will get involved, you are definitely constructing a course for that to happen. One too many protests and you'll be shining tactical assault police boots with your gums. But, you seem to want that, so have at it. - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 3:46pm Edited: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 3:58pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | ""knifey spooney" on the other hand, totally ghey. Sounds like a game Mike Jackson plays with twelve year old boys. " its a joke from the simpsons... but of course people at your age; i wouldn't expect to catch such humor :P - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 4:34pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | Yes, well, ""people at your age"" play the rubba rubba game with Micheal Jackson. - Thu, 11 Dec 2008 7:01pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | Isn't it tubba rubba oh Did I just correct you on that. SHIT! - Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:58am Edited: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 1:01am | ||
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| Jl User Info... | "Yes, well, ""people at your age"" play the rubba rubba game with Micheal Jackson." ... is that all you have? old man.... - Fri, 12 Dec 2008 3:02pm | ||
| Dan Long User Info... | Actually I was referring to a different man! :) love,Dan - Fri, 12 Dec 2008 5:07pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | I remember back when I was a youngin, there was no internetz, and women had pubic hair and hips. - Fri, 12 Dec 2008 6:44pm | ||
| Dan Long User Info... | I could do without the internet and pubic hair. Hips are good;) - Fri, 12 Dec 2008 7:26pm | ||
| goff User Info... | so no more cyber stabbings then?? - Fri, 12 Dec 2008 8:51pm | ||
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| goff User Info... | i stared at that pic for five minutes before i got it. you just made me feel stupid. i hope you're proud of yourself - Fri, 12 Dec 2008 9:17pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... |  you didn't get that right away? wohhww - Sat, 13 Dec 2008 2:57am Edited: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 2:57am | ||
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| DAJ User Info... | I Am NOT A 'Homeless Activist' (D. A. Johnston - Victoria, BC) - Let me make myself perfectly clear. The giant 'right to sleep' campaign did not originate over some altruistic desire to help the 'homeless'. The biggest inspiration came when, one night in late 2003, I put my bedroll down at one of my sleeping spots in Beacon Hill park, laid down then noticed an unusual smell. Upon inspection I found the ground covered in fertilizer (ground up fish) and subsequently my blanket was filthy. It was obviously placed there on purpose and from then on the fertilizer came to be known as 'bum-away'. To hold those responsible accountable the 'right to sleep' campaign began in earnest January 16th, 2004. Up until that point I had been on the job as a preacher of fate, primarily meditating down at the lower Causeway and conversing with the multitudes of people strolling by. Since the campaign began the role switched from meditating everyday to playing this political character that, almost perpetually, has to defend itself from malicious defamation. I have learned much. The thing has evolved from fighting for the right to sleep with a blanket under a tree, to sleeping in a tent, to, now, sleeping during the day. The city (which I'll now refer to as the Chamber of Commerce) has been fighting every step of the way attempting to protect its shallow little tourism industry from the visual effects of poverty. Part of my education has included becoming aware of the massively devilish take-over-the-world plan that, for instance, has the government giving out 30,000 needles (minimum) a month and a media that has blame placed on the 'homeless' for needles being found everywhere... a good plan in raising the 'need' to hire more cops. 'They' say permanent tent encampments are horribly dark magnets for crime, the truth is that there is a large population of people on the verge of nervous breakdowns (because they have to work 40 hours a week to pay for sleep) who might relieve themselves of some stress by 'choosing' to be homeless and taking advantage of their right to camp. ON DECEMBER 31ST AT 9:30 AM IN COURTROOM #203, the Chamber of Commerce is hoping to convince a Provincial Court Judge, even after the Supreme Court of BC ruled that it is illegal to have an 'across the board' prohibition on sleeping, that an 'across the board' prohibition from 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM is acceptable. I've seen how the Provincial Court works and will not be surprised if their judge finds that it is O.K. to force people not to sleep during the day. If that is going to be the case I will be immediately making an issue right in the courtroom, as the judge will be acting illegally, contravening the Constitution and the Supreme Court ruling. So, even if I used money and had the biggest house in the world it would still morally behove me to risk it all to find justice, as it would any and all. Not for some obscure notion of 'homeless' people, but for sanity, itself, lest it lack the peace justice provides. Patience be with us all. David Arthur Johnston Victoria, BC, Canada [email protected] Home page- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman Journal of the Occupation of St. Ann's Academy (Victoria, BC, Canada)- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman/welcome.htm Crimes of Necessity- http://www.loveandfearlessness.com (from filmmaker Andrew Ainsley. Very comprehensive.) Concise Coverage of Victoria Municipal Politics- http://electionsvictoria.ca - Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:41am | ||
| Doc User Info... | Evidently, your education FAILED to include reading. As I've already stated, the Supreme Court decision issued by the Honourable Justice Ross states that the ban on camping is only unconstitutional in the absence of sufficient shelter beds, and it fails to define temporary with regards to the structures that you are allowed to erect in said circumstances. The City therefore, is well within it's rights to enact a by-law defining temporary, and if there are available shelter beds at a time when you are found to be camping, then it is YOU who are contravening the constitution and the Supreme Court ruling. ~Marvelling at DAJ's living campaign in favour of eugenics. Doc P.S. Since you obviously have either no ability or no desire to read, I don't know why any of us bother to respond to you. At least presenting a rational argument makes me feel a little better. - Tue, 16 Dec 2008 3:45pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | BRING BACK PUBIC HAIR! - Tue, 16 Dec 2008 5:13pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | "the truth is that there is a large population of people on the verge of nervous breakdowns (because they have to work 40 hours a week to pay for sleep)" Oh my god. The horror of going out and doing something productive for 40 hours per week. Then getting to sleep indoors because of it. That's some stressful living, right there. - Tue, 16 Dec 2008 5:37pm | ||
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| J. Peatman User Info... | "I put my bedroll down at one of my sleeping spots in Beacon Hill park, laid down then noticed an unusual smell. Upon inspection I found the ground covered in fertilizer (ground up fish) and subsequently my blanket was filthy." Fertilizer? In a place where things are supposed to grow?? Naaah! Your theory about it being a conspiracy makes way more sense! Actually, I have a similar story which ends in the unusual smell being a giant, semi-liquid turd of human origin, in a public area. This phenomenon came to be known as '40-hours-a-week-worker-away'. - Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:43pm Edited: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:44pm | ||
| Zedius User Info... | "the truth is that there is a large population of people on the verge of nervous breakdowns (because they have to work 40 hours a week to pay for sleep)" How many hours a week do you think it takes to build a log cabin so your family doesn't get hailed on/eaten by bears? How many hours does it take to work in a huge garden all day with primitive tools because there are no factories making better tools? You'll have lots of free time when your whole family is wiped out by the flu anyway. You're the only one having a nervous breakdown DAJ, but you changed it into something else. You are on an illogical mission of faith. Most people I know who can't deal are on illogical missions of faith. Hell, I have my own issues and I know what it is to want to run away from things. If I had some ludicrous cause it would make me feel like I was doing something important with my life, and it would allow me to disregard my shortcomings. The problem is I couldn't live with it, because I value truth. And I couldn't try to push it, because I value other people's freedom. How can you believe what you say? You must be truly delusional. - Wed, 17 Dec 2008 9:07am Edited: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 9:08am | ||
| Jl User Info... | Daj, the city is only looking at your, considered, "problem" because they're looking out for the homeless people(in question) who need a place to sleep if the shelters are all busy. NOT because they think your way of logic works. Also, crusading for yourself is no more noble than stealing food from people that ACTUALLY NEED IT. Fucking lazy ass. I love how he thinks that 40/hrs a week is TOO DEMANDING. LOLOLOLOLOLOL. NOW FUCK OFF. - Wed, 17 Dec 2008 2:02pm | ||
| trevor corey User Info... | It's to demanding for me. Ji, ya slave driver. - Wed, 17 Dec 2008 3:47pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | .... from what i can see, most everything is "too demanding" for you... and your ninja accomplice;) - Wed, 17 Dec 2008 9:59pm | ||
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| Bruce Graham User Info... | Banker bail-outs. Auto Industry bail-outs. How about some tax-payer bail-outs? You dummies don't actually think things are going to get better, do you? If...no WHEN the bankers, market manipulators and power brokers are finnished with their current 'crisis', the rest of us - that means anyone who isn't part of the global elite - will be EXPENDABLE and EXTERMINATED. Wake up. - Thu, 18 Dec 2008 6:48am Edited: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 6:48am | ||
| Zedius User Info... | Sounds like you're talking about a different paranoid fantasy there, Bruce. - Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:17am | ||
| grimlord User Info... | When do the E.T.'s arrive ? - Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:37am | ||
| J. Peatman User Info... | "...anyone who isn't part of the global elite - will be EXPENDABLE and EXTERMINATED. Wake up." Please tell us, what exactly are you doing about it? - Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:44pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | " Part of my education has included becoming aware of the massively devilish take-over-the-world plan that, for instance, has the government giving out 30,000 needles (minimum) a month and a media that has blame placed on the 'homeless' for needles being found everywhere." when you have specific locations for disposal of needles; its up to the FUCKING MORON putting the needle in his/her arm to effectively DISPOSE OF IT themselves. Or are you too fucking lazy to see that too? fucking moron. btw, why are you using homeless people as an example when you SPECIFICALLY said "Let me make myself perfectly clear. The giant 'right to sleep' campaign did not originate over some altruistic desire to help the 'homeless'."? You have no right to use homeless people as your pawn. you piece of shit. - Thu, 18 Dec 2008 3:32pm | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "When do the E.T.'s arrive?" They're already here, but that's not the point. Oh, you're of the mind that out of the gajillion solar systems in the universe, only Earth is capable of supporting intelligent life. How arrogant. - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 3:01am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "Please tell us, what exactly are you doing about it?" Pointing it out to the masses; but the sheeple don't listen, that's why they'll be rounded up first. - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 3:03am Edited: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 3:03am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | Nevermind. The government LOVES you. Mercury in the vaccines is GOOD for you. Sodium Floride in the water is GOOD for you. CO2 is poisonous to plants. Oxygen is poisonous to mammals. The Banker bail-out will save us all. - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 3:08am | ||
| BBJones User Info... |  My only complaint about our government is they shut down the EMP. - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 9:10am Edited: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 9:10am | ||
| Mike S. User Info... | someone has been watching too much american news. breaking news: Obama is not the president of Canada! ps: screw the auto industry. Sure it does suck for the day to day worker that loses his job, but this is what Dodge, GM and Ford get for shoveling out overpriced garbage for the past decade. The parts market in the auto industry is huge, probably as big as the manufacturing sector. Ever notice how expensive parts like ECU's and mysterious valves and sensors go bad so soon after warranties expire? Then you look at the ECU and you are thinking, why the FUCK is this worth $1300 plus tax. Its basically a microchip in an aluminum case. then the mechanic charges you another $300 to diagnose it and bolt the thing in and hook up the harness. etc. /rant - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:38am | ||
| DAJ User Info... | St. Ann's update- Dec. 18th, 2008: so as to not give my lawyers heart attacks... - (To the sheriffs- don't worry about me guys, I'll be good.) (To the RCMP- if a municipality and its police have been acting criminally can we come to you?) I've assured my lawyers that, regardless of my last article (suggesting I would occupy the courtroom if the judge proves corrupt- re:http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman/activist.htm ), that I will not occupy the courtroom and act, instead, how I usually act and challenge any bylaw or order specifically if it fails to be reasonable. To alleviate the city's concern about tent-city, we have made it clear that we are not fighting for the right to have a tent-city, but, officially, fighting for the right to be able to sleep, while protecting one's self from the elements. The city could go so far as to make their new bylaw stating that tents can go up as long as there is people sleeping in them (giving allowance to step away for bathroom breaks, and such). Obviously, it is not reasonable to order people to not sleep during the day so mayhaps the city can find its way to actually making a new bylaw instead of forcing a 12 hour a day prohibition that is contrary to the Constitution, the ruling and life, itself. One day we will find that we've been working really hard to prevent something that is completely simple and natural. That, all along, it has been a horrible deprivation in preventing tent-cities. I trust the speed in which they will be occupied will attest to this... when they do come. I've been mulling the notion of the city correcting itself (just in the most basic fundamental way) then seeing some initiative in a more 'regional' 'overflow' space. Life is hard in many many ways and it is equally hard to predict how things will turn out. There is a cosmic battle going on and so many people pay dues to the 'Crown' even knowing what it has done... so many caught in a huge mind-trap. Patience be with us all, almost the whole of the human population has been conditioned to accept slave conditions- those slaving the most enjoying the most fake freedom. If we all turned nice this would be so easy. anyhoo, love y'all, David Arthur Johnston Victoria, BC, Canada [email protected] Home page- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman Journal of the Occupation of St. Ann's Academy (Victoria, BC, Canada)- http://www.angelfire.com/apes/hatrackman/welcome.htm Crimes of Necessity- http://www.loveandfearlessness.com (from filmmaker Andrew Ainsley. Very comprehensive.) Concise Coverage of Victoria Municipal Politics- http://electionsvictoria.ca - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:15pm | ||
| BBJones User Info... | http://www.timescolonist.com/Sports/Homeless+woman+dies+trying+keep+warm+frigid+Vancouver+night/1096798/story.html Damn I was so hopeful they got "woman" and "vancouver" wrong. Oh well... at least there was something positive to come out of the tradgedy: "Robertson said he will be talking with police chief Jim Chu about the possibilty of strenthening police powers to compell people to go into shelters." - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 1:53pm Edited: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 1:55pm | ||
| Mike S. User Info... | DAJ: or you could get a job and rent a place to live, and be nice and warm and out of the elements. You choose to live outside in the winter, then do so but it doesnt mean you must have the right to pitch a tent in the local park. Meanwhile getting the workable 'activists' and lazies off the street or out of the city will open up the shelter space to the ones who really need it, the truly marginalized street people with mental issues etc. and also to the guy who really wants to work but needs a shelter bed for a few weeks till he can get back on his feet. Also, have you ever gone camping on the long weekend? Can you imagine if people were allowed to camp in the city? Your little tent town would be over-run with Lucky swilling 4x4'ing maniacs, cranking ACDC and chucking homemade bombs in the bon fires. And 19yr olds beating up smelly old hippies. (This is BC after all) - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 2:11pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | What a shitty way to die. Being remembered as the person who burned to death in a shopping cart because of your own stupid decision to burn candles under a tarp. As terrible as it is, I had to chuckle. - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 2:30pm | ||
| Sati User Info... | I didn't chuckle. She died alone, in excruciating pain, engulfed in flames, on a -10C night on a city street, in the middle of the most densely populated neighborhood in Canada. I don't know what else to say but I hope that poor woman is finally able to "rest in peace". - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 2:35pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | sati, it still doesn't excuse the sheer idiocy of lighting a fire under a tarp. It's just like the incident(as tragic as it is) here in vic; where a young girl(early-mid 20's) decided it was in her best intrest NOT to bother her BF at work to get keys to her apt, so instead she tries to scale DOWN from the balcony above her... Tragic that it had to end like it did; but it still doesn't excuse the fact of SHEER idiocy. I didn't chuckle either, that someone died... but I did shake my head in disbelief. - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 3:11pm | ||
| Sati User Info... | "idiocy" or "illness"? We're talking about homeless people with mental health issues. This woman was spending her life outside at night in -10 degree weather, how well could her state of mind have been? I think the article explained this kind of stuff better than I could. And maybe you're all huge supermen, but I'm female and about 110 pounds and I know that if I miss a meal or enough liquids, a half hour longer than I should out there could be considered dangerous, and I'm really healthy. Which reminds me, if you guys happen to see really old people wandering around in this kind of cold, just stop and check on them or call 911 - its super easy for them to get disoriented in weather like this. - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 7:05pm Edited: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 7:06pm | ||
| Sati User Info... | Seriously, have you never seen a friend you've respected buckle under stress, or ill health and made "idiotic" decisions out of exhaustion or desperation? life can get pretty ugly sometimes and I've seen the toughest people cave. ... sorry i think i may be responding to different threads here, it must be the stress.. exhaustion.. desperation.. haha - Fri, 19 Dec 2008 7:11pm Edited: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 7:14pm | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | Sati; These wankers who go on about how perfect they are and how patheticly laughable the homeless and and mentally ill are, well they think they're entitled to MORE rights than anyone else. They've never heard of the word compassion, likely can't even navigate a dictionary. That's why they think people burning to death while trying to stay warm is a joke, and ascribe to beating up those in dire straights. These "supermen" as you put it, believe they are superior to anyone who sees beyond superficialities. They've been brainwashed by corporate advertising, tv and the media into believing that Madison Avenue holds the key to happiness. In reality, if any one of them was thrust into the outdoors, right now, with nothing but the clothes on their back and a book of matches. They be chucking garbage cans through store windows just to get arrested so they could spend the night indoors. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:16am Edited: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:18am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "breaking news: Obama is not the president of Canada!" That's right. Yet the media pumped him up as "President of the WORLD" and the "NEW SAVIOR" like he's the 2nd coming of Christ. "Obama will bring about change", they say. And Wall St. gets billions - for which the American taxpayers are now on the hook for trillions, to pay it back. The Bankers walk off with the cash and party it up, do nothing to solve the problems they failed to notice or acknowlege until the day before there was a crisis (these are finacial experts?) and the same thing is going on WORLDWIDE. And all you can say is, this isn't America? Get your head out of the sand. Get ready to suffer; economically, socially and politically. A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT is coming and the BANKERS, MARKET MANIPULATORS & POWER BROKERS will be in charge. WE - that's you, me , DAJ and all but about 500 million 'SLAVES' will cease to exist. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:22am Edited: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:32am | ||
| Doc User Info... | Dude, I think it's time for you to take your meds. I also think that you should lay off the conspiracy theory literature for a while. While the american bail out plans are economically stupid, the adverse effects won't be as noticeable here. This is where the Americans are going to realize that our "socialist" system, their word not mine, is financially more stable. Think, because of regulations put in place by the government through the Bank of Canada, that sub-prime mortgage B.S. could never happen here. God bless Canada! ~Keeping the world safe from democracy. Doc - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:49am | ||
| Sati User Info... | ... i guess i don't know these people like you do bg since i live in vancouver. thanks for the heads up. you people are SCUM! i assume a few of these people are posturing to make a point bg, its nothing i'm gonna start a barroom brawl over. sure, they're sometimes assholes about it, but its not like we're thinking these posts are gonna be our overlasting legacy, its just live vic. nothing like starting a barroom brawl though - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 2:48am | ||
| Doc User Info... | Bruce, I would thank you not to lecture on people's capacity for compassion where you know nothing of the facts. I donate my time and money in an effort to assist homeless people, and even people who are not homeless and are just down on their luck. Do you? I have spent cold winter nights on the street before, not an experience that I am eager to repeat and certainly not one that I would wish on anyone else. I do personally favour a few initiatives of questionable repute, such as rounding up homeless people at dusk on winter nights and "escorting" them to the nearest shelter. I also believe that in the absence of sufficient shelter beds, that the drunk tank would make a viable alternative. The disadvantaged could be given a warm, indoor place to spend the night and sent back out the following morning just like a shelter. Some people might find that distasteful, but at least it's a workable alternative to people spending the night on the street. I'm sure open to any other suggestions that could be practically initiated. ~Keeping the world safe from democracy. Doc - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 11:09am | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | It sucks that the lady died in a situation of desperation. But the visual of someone burning in a shopping cart was somehow amusing...I suppose because I haven't heard of such a thing before. Pretty shocking. Odd. Compassion? Yes. I have lots of that. I guess when I visualized the shopping cart burning I pictured someone like DAJ in it. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 2:35pm | ||
| Mike S. User Info... | I have no problem with the homeless in general, and certainly not with those in need who have been cast out by the system. I also have no issue with protest of the system by whatever peaceful means including park tent-ins. This is the freedom that our grandfathers fought for. I just have no compassion for men like DAJ who abuse the homeless resources for so many years under the guise of activism. - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 2:56pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | Here is an article I found on something Doc was talking about. http://www.courierpostonline.com/article/20081207/NEWS01/812070340/-1/newsfront2 - Sat, 20 Dec 2008 3:30pm | ||
| kyle User Info... | Why has no one bothered to point out that DAJ on several occasions has denied the very existence of the Canadian State, professing it to be an imaginary creation of "The Crown," itself a non-existant entity (in DAJ's twisted little world). How then, DAJ if you do not believe in the right of Canada to exist, do you believe not just that the Canadian constitution exists, but that it exists to protect your rights as an involuntary, and by your own admission, treasonous citizen? Your logic has no logic. If you are against the existence of Canada, you should by extension be against using lawyers provided by the tax payers of Canada to further your agenda (the logic here being you believe money to be evil; lawyers cost money, and so by extension should be considered instruments of evil at best). Maybe you think you're being clever, sticking it to the man, raping the system you don't believe in that is set up and held in place by people who largely have no sympathy for you, but it doesn't take a fucking mastermind to see that you are a hypocrite. If there is no state you have no civil liberties. Surprise, cockbag- you have already lost. For without the support of the people you have nothing. Congratulations on being a fucking asshole though. Your momma must be proud. - Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:41am Edited: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 1:21pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | If there were no state, Dan Long would have stabbed DAJ multiple times until he was dead months ago. - Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:08pm | ||
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| Corporal Jigsore Quandary User Info... | How's the weather DAJ? You liking it? Bet a shelter bed would feel pretty good right now huh, maybe if you cut the bullshit and got a job you could open your own shelter and actually help people. - Mon, 22 Dec 2008 2:02pm | ||
| KRIEG User Info... | I'm sure DAJ doesn't mind the weather. He's only "homeless" during the mild months. - Mon, 22 Dec 2008 6:08pm | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "While the american bail out plans are economically stupid, the adverse effects won't be as noticeable here." Well, I'm sure glad you're looking forward to Canadian taxpayers being on the hook for the $4 billion Canadian auto industry bailout. I wonder when the BC Forestry & Fishing industries will get their bailouts. Not that I'm holding my breath for it. - Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:08am Edited: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:15am | ||
| Doc User Info... | First, I said they wouldn't be as noticeable, not non-existent. Second, if the auto bailout goes through, which is still dubious at this point since our government is suspended and not gauranteed to stand after its return, I won't mind. Four Billion to save peoples jobs so that our economy can continue to function is fine with me. At least we aren't throwing arround HUNDREDS of billions of dollars at people who already have billions. Third, we do not, and will not have the massive credit problems that exist south of the border. ~Keeping the world safe from democracy. Doc - Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:45am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "Dude, I think it's time for you to take your meds. I also think that you should lay off the conspiracy theory literature for a while." The Effects of Flouride on the Brain http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=19990817225011 Adverse Health Effects http://curezone.com/dental/fluoride.html "I am appalled at the prospect of using water as a vehicle for drugs. Fluoride is a corrosive poison that will produce serious effects on a long range basis. Any attempt to use water this way is deplorable." Dr. Charles Gordon Heyd, Past President of the American Medical Association ---- http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/fluoride.htm#a ***more to come... - Tue, 23 Dec 2008 2:02am | ||
| Doc User Info... | Yet ironically this person, probably without thinking, brushes his teeth with a flouride toothpaste every morning and evening. Bruce, if you give a scientist enough time and money they will tell how breathing is bad for you. Don't put too much stock in it. ~Spreading joy one kick in the nuts at a time. Doc - Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:55am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | "if you give a scientist enough time and money they will tell how breathing is bad for you" To some degree that's correct, but not ALL scientists are owned by multi-national pharmaceutical companies or petrochemical magnates. Your statement, interestingly, is exactly what's going on with Global warming and the carbon tax. We are now being taxed for breathing, thanx to Al Gore and his BS pseudo-science. If we are to believe Mr. Gore, then CO2 is a poisonous gas, dangerous to the plants and Oxygen is poisonous to mammals. His solution, eliminate the CO2 so the plants die which in turn stops their production of the oxygen mammals breathe. No more plants, no more mammals, no more issues with Global warming. There are alternatives to flouride toothpaste, even though you may not see them advertised in main stream corporate controlled media. I use flouride-free toothpaste every day. - Wed, 24 Dec 2008 4:09am Edited: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 4:13am | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Let's see a close-up picture of your teeth. - Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:38am | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_depopu.htm#Global_2000_Program - Thu, 25 Dec 2008 5:01am | ||
| Jl User Info... | for godsakes; put up a link that works... lazy ass - Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:11pm | ||
| Bruce Graham User Info... | It works fine for me. Maybe your mom should help you click the mouse. - Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:52am | ||
| grimlord User Info... | I'm helping your mom right now..... to clean up the mess we just made. - Thu, 14 May 2009 3:24pm | ||
| Jl User Info... | "It works fine for me. Maybe your mom should help you click the mouse. - Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:52am " its good to see that when Im in my 40's 'mom' jokes will still be funny... loooooooooooooooooooooooooooser. I suppose I would be pretty bitter too if I got the boot from "the perish". - Wed, 20 May 2009 12:19pm | ||
| Mr. Hell User Info... | Hahaha. Rough one. That must have burned pretty bad. - Wed, 20 May 2009 4:24pm | ||
| grimlord User Info... | Ouch! Being kicked out of the Perish is like being kicked out of bed Bye Neil Hamburger. - Fri, 22 May 2009 1:31pm | ||
| TheBlack Pixie User Info... | "I just have no compassion for men like DAJ who abuse the homeless resources for so many years under the guise of activism" THANK you Mike! Exactly as TC quoted "you don't have to live like a refugee" Guerilla protest died along with the 60s...it's time to progress and find different tactics rather than making yourself into some "homeless" celebirty. I've seen DAJ actions cause nothing but a good story on the news and his justification for being homeless no more than a dellusion and a refusal to work with society and actually DO something about social ills. - Sun, 24 May 2009 6:48pm | ||
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| TheBlack Pixie User Info... | One last thing to say. I take offence to being labeled as some sort of brainwashed, sheep "elite" just because I choose to have a job (which I enjoy?, finishing a university degree and sleep inside. You don't want people to critisize your way of life DAJ and you preach of "freedom," so let me live the way I want to live. To call people of society brainwashed is sheer arrogance- you are practically claiming that you are the smart one, you can see through these "conspiracies" and are therefore presenting yourself as higher being and that kind of arrogance just enrages me. I am going to fight for my right to work a 40 hour week, have a roof over my head and BE DAMN PROUD OF IT. It's people like you that make the homeless look like unintelligent scum. You don't like the way society runs? Do something PRODUCTIVE (uh oh, that might involve WORKING) to change it, because so far your have done nothing. You sir, have failed. - Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:56pm | ||
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| Jl User Info... | rekoyle is bitter that jeff kicked bruce out because bruce was hittin' on jeff's mom! talk about unpaid debts! - Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:24am | ||
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