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_Griphin_
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Just heard the Self inflicted tracks on there website (http://www.bozobits.com/selfinflicted/), Crime Scene is an awesome track, and these boys rock LIVE! Be sure to pick up the demo once it's released, nuff said.

This shameless plug brought to you by the letters THC and the number 69! :) - Tue, 13 May 2003 5:18pm
ROSS B AY
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http://www.bozobits.com/selfinflicted/media/mp3/crimescene.mp3

http://www.bozobits.com/selfinflicted/media/mp3/viagrant.mp3

THIS sHIT SUCKS!!!!!! - Wed, 14 May 2003 11:10am
Brandy GREAT STUFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Wed, 14 May 2003 12:12pm
tunesmith I'd be embarrassed to own up to that shit! Absolutely no musical talent. Zero Melody, drummer was totally crap! Boring!! Muzak is nicer to listen too! - Wed, 14 May 2003 12:16pm
Anonymous http://www.bozobits.com/selfinflicted/media/mp3/crimescene.mp3

Holy Fuck! Open your ears peolpe! If that's what passes for good in this town, we got some serious worries! Youch!! Hurtin for certain! - Wed, 14 May 2003 3:38pm
BBJones
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Shit! Did we forget to put melody in again? FUCK! I TOLD YOU ROSS! Now look what you've done!

I think ROSS BAY has a secret Muzak band, and he makes it more popular by making us play that Self Inflicted crap. Damn you ROSS! I'm on to you and your little plans!

VIHC! - Wed, 14 May 2003 3:42pm
Anonymous fuckin awful!!drums and vocals are horrid.keep working!! - Wed, 14 May 2003 3:46pm
Anonymous Vocals are really bad but I'm sure their live show is energetic and makes up for it. - Wed, 14 May 2003 3:50pm
Anonymous Spasstically jumping up and down at light speed couldn't make of for this crap! I support local music, but this isn't something worth supporting. It's obvious that not allot of thought and work went into this??? - Wed, 14 May 2003 4:13pm
Anonymous Is the band writing shit about themselves, posing as anons to keep this thread on top? tsk tsk
at least write something good about yourselves - or we'll get intrigued! - Wed, 14 May 2003 4:20pm
BBJones
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you ask about anon posters while posting as an anon?

we post enough with our names on shit that we don't need to pose as anon's to bump a thread.

At least it looks like people are listening to the tracks :)

Glad to see our fan base building! Oh wait a minute... - Wed, 14 May 2003 4:32pm
wolfenstein haha all those anons are SO obviously the same person... same twinkle nuts that posts random shit about Mr. B AY, Esquire. Soundin good boys needs ooooooooooh's and aaaaaahhhhhhh's in the backround and you should add a number to your name. Then people won't get so angry when they hear your angry music. - Wed, 14 May 2003 5:49pm
ROSS B AY
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Yeah that's right! We need a number in our name...any suggestions. I'm preferring SELF INFLICTED 178723847537841 myself..... - Wed, 14 May 2003 5:56pm
The Ref No, they actually do really suck. Nothing attractive about that tune at all. Maybe they have others that are better, but that one was really bad. No thought went into it. Aint that what its all about. Putting some heart and thought into it??? - Wed, 14 May 2003 8:25pm
Amazed Mann do they ever! The first 2 minutes is just guitar crap that aint even that interesting!!! Same stupid riff, over and over! I just fast forwarded to the vox and then held my nose. Peee eeewww! - Wed, 14 May 2003 8:45pm
Anonymous Amazed is correct the vocals are worse for wear but that could just be the recording. As for the fact that the first minute of the song is the exact same 2 chord riff over and over until the second minute which is just a different 2 chord riff over and over, it sounds like a really reall bad hatebreed ripoff. Kinda weird though because I remember you guys playing a good set at Logan's, so either the recording ain't up to par or I was drunk. - Wed, 14 May 2003 10:53pm
ROSS B AY
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it was exactly the same stuff. musta been drunk.....!! Keep in mind we've only been together 4 months. And the mix is only the rough, first go through, siskel and egbert...... - Thu, 15 May 2003 5:54am
The Ref Sorry RB, but it really isn't very good. Would love to hear something that was a little more thought out though! - Thu, 15 May 2003 9:45am
Johnny Feelings Try Gashly Crumb

http://www.brandxmedia.org/mp3s/Gashley_crumb_-_Anti-conceivable.MP3 - Thu, 15 May 2003 11:28am
Wreaker of Havoc
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Are these critics listening to the right MP3. I think this shit shreds the back hair off yo mama! - Thu, 15 May 2003 12:33pm
The Ref To each his own there wreaker! - Thu, 15 May 2003 12:42pm
SentencedtoBurn
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Holy fuck everyone is a critic. Does anyone play an instrument or better yet, play in a band aside from the obvious people here? I think you gotta know where the aritst(s) is coming from or what they are trying to acheive with any given song before you randomly say there is no melody, etc. It's hardcore man, brain surgery it ain't, and the tune rocks. We played a show with these guys a couple of weeks ago, they fucking rock, good dudes to. And to the naysayers, what exactly have you acheived musically lately? - Thu, 15 May 2003 1:27pm
The Ref All writers/player/bands should be able to take constructive criticism! I think that RB is wise enough to take as it's given there sentanced to burn. They may be great guys and be a great band but that song sucked. As I said to RB would like to hear something that was a little more thought out! All song writing is a science. The one's that sit down and pump out a hit in ten mins are special and very gifted. Most of us have to work hard at it! - Thu, 15 May 2003 1:50pm
Potatoe Cock
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I like it but I think that considering the fact that most people who are going to be listening to your songs are not musicians/ in bands you should take the masses opinions very seriously. Most people who buy CD's and go to concerts ARE NOT musicians and you are pretty stupid if you think that their opinion doesn't matter, it actually probably matters more since they are looking at it from a completely fan based perspective and not a friend/colleague perspective. But I think it is pretty cool although it does have that whole slipknot/hatebreed thing going on. - Thu, 15 May 2003 3:28pm
Anonymous Potatoe You don't give fans enough credit! Besides, in the beginning, you are judged more by industry than anything else. - Thu, 15 May 2003 3:58pm
Anon386 Listened to crime scene. The first couple minutes seemed more suited to having some vocal part over top. It sounds like a track awaiting the singing part. Kind of generic ideas. This can work if something else interesting is added. Maybe the singer could get some weird synth noises or something to give the intro some life.

Or just add alchohol. - Thu, 15 May 2003 4:10pm
ticklefish this isn't my style of music at all, so I'll avoid any comments on the songs themselves....but how was this stuff recorded? The guitar sounds mediocre, but those drums are horrendous in the recording, and where is the bass?... but hey, i know recording ain't cheap or easy. - Thu, 15 May 2003 4:12pm
BBJones
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I appreciate seeing any feedback at all. At least someone has listened to the shit which was the whole point recording the damn songs! :)

Good reviews, bad reviews, whatever... any review is a good review and all opinions do count. Bottom line though is as long as we (the band) enjoy doing what we're doing, that is good enough for us. If anyone likes it, great. More motivation for us to keep playing and growing as a band. If no one likes it and we never get anyone out to a show or ever sell a single CD, then we probably won't have fun either and quit.

So... keep the criticism coming (good and bad). Honest reviews are best.

VIHC! - Thu, 15 May 2003 4:13pm
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Yes "Anon386", the whole point is to add alchohol. Live hardcare is the point, not CD's.

And yes we know the bottom end is lacking, this was the first mix. We are going in to remix it to bring up the bass and bring the kickdrums way up so they drive the songs more.

It will also have to be mastered at some point. - Thu, 15 May 2003 4:19pm
Wreaker of Havoc
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haha I love getting called a musician. The only time i hold an instrament is when I ram my tool in yer sisters pie hole. I dont like my metal super technical. I like it plain old fast and heavy, the way its supposed to be. And that is just what this is. Makes me want to punch you in the face but Id spill my beer..... - Thu, 15 May 2003 4:27pm
ticklefish Where are you doing the recording? A couple of things I would suggest are

1) EQ the bass and guitars so that they don't eat each others space up, pan them out a bit too to their own space
2) Use serious compression on the drums to really pump them up...don't just raise the levels on faders, but tame those peaks with a compressor so that the whole level is higher - Thu, 15 May 2003 4:31pm
Anonymous take the advise above and....get a singer!! - Thu, 15 May 2003 5:12pm
Wreaker of Havoc
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dont get a 'singer' keep your 'vocalist' you have now. Heavy and brutal! - Thu, 15 May 2003 5:21pm
BBJones
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Thanks for the recording tips, we're doing it at the Rat's Nest and he's got some pretty tasty gear in there so I'll bring it all up... but don't expect too much from a one day recording. Decent is all we're going for...

And Wreaker, you beat me to that one ;) - Thu, 15 May 2003 5:23pm
Anonymous Hey wreaker, most metal is stupidly simple (in musical terms). Three chords can still git ya a killer song. Just a matter of mel and how ya put it together. Don't have a sister for ya to cram, so ya might as well continue on doing your own sister! Beer in hand, waiting for another wreaker retard baby to pop outta her hole.

Oh yea, no one assumed that you played anything but your tiny picalo! And your fat retarded, buck toothed sister! - Thu, 15 May 2003 6:39pm
Anonymous Oh yea and anytime! - Thu, 15 May 2003 6:50pm
Hal Linden Damn, have you SEEN Wreakers Sister? She's a hot little tart! - Thu, 15 May 2003 7:06pm
Anonymous Nice try Wreaker. Have seen her! Tart yes, hot??? Well if ya like that retarded, buck toothed look! - Thu, 15 May 2003 7:07pm
Hal Linden I ain twreaker, and yah she is pretty damn fine. A little mulatto lookin, I dunno why Wreaker is so pale. - Thu, 15 May 2003 7:19pm
jay brown
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Gary does great work at the Rats Nest. You all have to realize that all that is, is the recording and a half hour mix to get the levels to the point where you can hear everything. Thats it for starters, then you take it home and see for yourself what works and what doesnt. Then when you've burned it into your brain for a while you go back and do a serious job of mixing everything, and adding any effects that the vocals or drums or whatever might need. A little reverb in the background for body, stops the vocals from sounding like your singing into a tin can. The drums are the bitchiest I find. It's a real bitch in the studio too, because your listening to everything through a great system and it all sounds awesome even if the mix aint so great. Go home and listen to it in a little ghetto blaster and you'll be able to tell exactly what needs to go up or come down. Then take it to a bar and get them to throw it on the system for you so you can hear if it stands up when it's brutally loud. If the mix isnt so good it'll usually frap out through a bar system. You really have to check what it's like through a bunch of different systems because you wont necessarily be hearing the same things through all of them. Once it sounds good on all of them your work is done. Personally I like the Self Inflicted stuff, sure it sounds like Hatebreed. You cant seriously think that was an accident, they found a sound they like and they started playing it. All musicians do that to some degree, you hear something you like, it gets stuck in your head, you write a song, and lo and behold it probably sounds an awful lot like whatever you were getting into beforehand. Keep it up guys I like it, and I think Chris kicks as a hardcore vocalist. Personal opinion, it's a beautiful thing. - Thu, 15 May 2003 7:52pm
ROSS B AY
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Hey that's cool, at least some folks are listening. I have to make a couple of points here. First, those 2 songs are the very first 2 we made up, in like the first week. I have no clue why Link the Dink would put those up. The vocals were off because Crass had a bad cold that whole week, and we agreed to do some of 'em again this week. The stuff we've done since is a damn sight better, in my mind anyway. I don't even listen to that version of Viagrant because of how we made it sound! Second, we're still finding our sound and style, so those tunes were just basically fuck around riffs that I made up so we could say we had a song or 2. They just turned into songs more out of necessity than anything else. To say they're rudimentary would be accurate, but that's cool too. I don't really listen to shit that's all involved and complicated, so I'm not playing it either. I like straight ahead punk/metal with aggressive vox and thick riffs. That's where we're headed with this, it may take a while, but it takes at least a year before a band gets good anyway. Especially if you're doing heavy shit. Just takes time to find everyone's strong points. Anyway, that's that, thanks for the input on it, it'll do us wonders in the long run. As soon as Link stops acting like a rock star from all this bad reviews that is! Cheers, RB - Thu, 15 May 2003 8:00pm
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And anon 386, i suggested that to "someone" but 'someone" didn't think that would be any good, so now it's just called "Intro". I thought it was a cool bit to throw in there, the old school metal heads like me love that easy, heavy chunky shit. I think every cd ever made should have an intro of some kind though - kinda like when you go to a gig and there's something playing over the PA right before the band starts their first song. I loooove that shit man! To me, that little bit was what metal crossover is all about. Some dig it, some don't. The ones that do know exactly where we're coming from with that though, and it stays. I think we'll make it longer, just for you guys, at the next gig. We're gonna play it for 5 full fucking minutes when we start, how about that? Wanna go for 10 mister? Cheers, RB - Thu, 15 May 2003 8:49pm
Anon386 When I hear an intro like that recorded I don't really get into it. Basically for a record it would be best to shorten the intro or add something to it. For live its the other way around. The long sort of simple and steady grinds are great for getting into the sound and vibe of the band. - Thu, 15 May 2003 10:13pm
Criss Crass Opinions, opinions... If you don't like us or my singing that's fine. But it seems kinda strange to me why you would waste your time here bitching and bitching. Do you like anything? The only thing good about your repeated posts are that you keep throwing our thread to the top and slingin our name around like you do with your own shit. God publicity even if it is bad. Thanks Fucko! - Fri, 16 May 2003 6:23pm
Criss Crass p.s. - If you put a recognizable name down by your opinion it might count. Until then I'd rather be insulted by you than someone I respect. - Fri, 16 May 2003 6:31pm
Gallow's Friend Your vocals suck and your entire band sucks and you should quit! Ok I lied. I saw you play Logan's as well and I thought you guys ripped shit up! I am not much into that style of metal anymore but I will gladly go to and recommend to anyone to go to a self-inflicted show, especially if they play with Gallow's. The time I saw you play there was so much energy and it was just a hell of alot of fun to watch and listen to you play. I think the recordings show a good deal of the heavy crushing riffs you guys write and as long as people can try to imagine it a hundred times louder than you are starting to get what is Self-Inflicted. - Fri, 16 May 2003 7:26pm
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Finally - some flickers of encouragement! Cheers whoever. It gets better as the days of our livevic turn. Hey come out tomorrow night to see us, Allfather, and 3" inches of penis and I'll buy you a beer. After you buy me one of course. - Fri, 16 May 2003 8:51pm
The Dude Right on, another band that sounds like every other metal band. Good job!!! Crime scene, yeah, maybe this song should be a crime scene, who did you steal it from? Oh yes, and the vocals, wow, they smell!! - Fri, 16 May 2003 10:53pm
curtviction i saw these guys play at soundgarden and i thought they were good actually really good considering they had been together for only a few weeks i think
also....link was the first drummer i ever jammed with about fuckin 15 years ago and he was good then and hes even better now!
if you cant get past the semi shitty recording then go spin yer emo cd's and shut up about it!
go see em live and try to tell me the drummer sux....ill have to hurt ya then!
hah ....anyways the guy who sings is way powerfull live and big guy like me doesnt have lungs like that!
well im old now but hey : )
id just like to see a bit more varried vox and different phrasing but thats hardcore man!
actually the vox remind me a bit of crowbar at times
and thats a compliment
keep it up guys ill be out for yer shows whenever i can!
cheers CC - Fri, 16 May 2003 10:55pm
ROSS B AY
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blablablablablaaaaa.... - Fri, 16 May 2003 10:58pm
BBJones
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gotta a show tomorrow night (Saturday may 17 at Logan's with Allfather and 3 Inches of Blood)

Get yer ass outta that lazyboy, Curt and get down there! :) - Sat, 17 May 2003 1:16am
curtviction i do believe i shall
and for all the slaggers.....YOU GO TOO!!
that is if ya like metal at all
and if ya dont then stay home and read your bible and cry yourself to sleep
cheers CC - Sat, 17 May 2003 2:52am
kiltlifter matt Alright then, a comment from one of the 'masses', as it were...at least pertaining to contemporary metal. Haha, I just wanted to say the phrase 'contemporary metal'!

I liked the song. It had all the crunchy necessities of a good kick ass song, single-time/double-time switches, suitably brutal vocalist, and I can imagine a metal crowd getting whipped up over it. I think Beavis and Butthead would approve, and who better to analyze it than them?

I agree with the comment about the intro feeling a little long.. 1:30 before the vox kicked in or so? On the other hand, that section felt like it would rule if played behind the team selection screen on EA NHL 2004, Nucks vs. Team Sweden, @($*(@*$( yeah. Send 'em the link.... - Sat, 17 May 2003 3:32am
Mike
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Well I have to say this,,,,, I see absolutely nothing wrong with this recording. Keep it up guys....kudos. I liked it - Sat, 17 May 2003 3:54am
_Griphin_
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I don't care what anyone says about the band, I heard the demo over at Gary's, and it really grabbed my interest, which means it didn't sound like they were a buncha untalented fucks. Now perhaps I know shit about music, but they caught the interest of at least 2 or 3 people, and well isn't that what really matters, cause if one or two people like it, then that's a good thing. I dunno really, can't wait to hear the final product. Peace... - Sat, 17 May 2003 4:24am
ROSS B AY
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Alright. We go in tomorrow to do vox and remixing. I just realized how shitty an unmastered, unmixed song sounds through cheap comp speakers! Man that's horrible....more of a live thing for now until this cd is fucking ready. Speaking of which, it's on tonight at Logan's with Allfather and 3" of blood. Be there...... - Sat, 17 May 2003 12:09pm
Brian
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Good to see more hardcore bands on the island.
Can't wait to see you guys on May 30, an actual all-hardcore show!
http://members.shaw.ca/vihc - Sat, 17 May 2003 1:18pm
Anon386 Who's site has these songs available on the web?
Who started the post? What was the original subject again?

Criss Crass, the songs are fine for what they are and reveal volumes about the state of your band.

If I feel the need to swill to some hardcode stuff will I show up? Likely, especially if some more polished acts are on the bill. If you guys are dedicated musicians then I can see this getting better. Just like any other band.

I still think the recorded version of the song could be improved with more goo in the intro but it's your creation so take or leave the opinion. No need to get upset. - Sat, 17 May 2003 2:17pm
ROSS B AY
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that's cool. after tomorrow the shit will sound waaay better, out of the studio. Yeah the live sound is killer, especially at Logan's with the great sound dude. C'mon out and introduse yerself. Those recordings aren't what we're all about anyhow, it was 3 of ours' first time in the studio and we didn't know what the fuck was going on really at all. We're taking some more time with production and spend a few $ to top it up. Later, RB - Sat, 17 May 2003 2:36pm
Wreaker of Havoc
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"Hey wreaker, most metal is stupidly simple (in musical terms).....waiting for another wreaker retard baby to pop outta her hole....Oh yea, no one assumed that you played anything but your tiny picalo! And your fat retarded, buck toothed sister!"

Well after reading the above it makes it pretty easy for all of us to disregard anything you post. Metal being stupidly simple is laughable. Speaking purely vocal wise I believe a trained opera singer would have about as much trouble singing my shit as I would his. Why would you refer to my children as retarded in a public place? I dont think a 6 and 10 year old girl deserves that treatment. Learn were to draw the line. And as for my sister...hahaha you OBVIOUSLY have not seen her before. Youre just a nobody wishing you had your own band to talk about but instead you have nothing to do but hack anonymously until the next Navy Ship comes to town....Oh and SI fuck shit up!!!! - Sat, 17 May 2003 3:09pm
Anon386 Right on Ross. - Sat, 17 May 2003 3:40pm
jay brown
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I've seen his sister........... - Sat, 17 May 2003 8:21pm
Wreaker of Havoc
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bastard..... - Sat, 17 May 2003 8:48pm
Anonymous Jay, is there a sister in this town you haven't "seen"? - Sun, 18 May 2003 4:34pm
jay brown
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Nah, I'm just fuckin with him. She's one of my oldest friends little sisters. As hot as she may be, which I'm sure has caused him mental anguish on more than one occasion. I would never do that, I just like bugging him. - Sun, 18 May 2003 4:41pm
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Hey Wreaker. Well, if you can dish it out, then you should be able to take it. In future you should also take into concideration whom you might be speaking to.

As a matter of fact, I do have a band. As far as my vocal ability, there are several on this board that will vouch for it. Mikeguitar or Mike is one. If you want to duke it out vocally, anytime, anywhere there buddy. You may have just opened mouth and inserted both feet! I assure you that you have met a match here! Lottsa years, lottsa styles, lottsa schooling and lottsa touring and literally, four octaves of loud, strong, power! Suck at falsetto! But unaffraid of challenges... Eh Mike? - Sun, 18 May 2003 6:46pm
Wreaker of Havoc
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Ref,what a fucking tool. So afraid that no one has noticed your talent that you have to spell it out on a chat board??? fuckin weak. A vocal contest??? 'duke it out'??? Are you for real?? hahahahahahaha. I was simply commenting on how absurd it is to say that metal is simplistic. I made reference to the fact that an opera singer would have trouble doing what I do vocal wise and I would have trouble doing what he does. When did I say I was the best vocalist???? Uh never. I am flattered that someone who claims to be as talented as you would consider me a match though. Thanks. But if you want to talk about your band and vocal abilities post it in the Shameless section you clown......"Duke it out vocally???".....now ive heard everything....man i needed that. - Sun, 18 May 2003 7:32pm
Anon386 Isn't that what 8 Mile was on about?

That was pretty bizzare dialogue from the ref for sure. Maybe there could be a towel flicking fight but instead using your hair. - Sun, 18 May 2003 7:47pm
The Ref Nice to see that your bravado stops at a certain point. I was simpy pointing out that perhaps you should sometimes sit back and think before you speak. Always with the adolescent insults. Pointing out also, that I am not intimidated by you or people like you! If you can dish it out, you should be able to take it! Opera singers...wattevva! I know several that would kick most metal singers asses, singing metal. Also the reverse. So keep your crass insults to yourself, if you don't want'em back threefold! Buckbuckbuckbuckaaahhhup! I stand behind my talent and ability, do you??? - Sun, 18 May 2003 7:49pm
The Ref PS Never heard of musicians or vocalists duking it out??? It's a blast! Scatfest can be done in any style. Dizzie and Bird used to do it whenever they played together, that's what made it so special and amazing! Nothing better than trying to up somebody to take your ability to another level. A total blast! - Sun, 18 May 2003 7:56pm
Wreaker of Havoc
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I dont really get what your after but you seem really upset. I didnt mean to be such a threat to you that you would feel the need to tear a strip off me. I hate to break it to you but the days of guitar wars and vocal contests finally died the night Great White burned that bar down you fuckin Jovi. - Sun, 18 May 2003 7:59pm
BBJones
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Since I'm sure this isn't called the "I'm a better singer than you thread..." I'll get back on topic.

Mix 2 just finished today (Sunday). Should have it ripped and posted tomorrow.

And since we are NOT EVER mixing this again you better all like it! :) - Sun, 18 May 2003 8:02pm
The Ref True enough!

I'll be checking it out again. - Sun, 18 May 2003 8:05pm
Wreaker of Havoc
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And butt out Lincoln. If you want to talk about your cd then start your own post called "Self Inflicted sample trax" or something...... - Sun, 18 May 2003 8:06pm
The Ref It's the fact that you have to act so adolescently that gets me pissed off. I was not the one that said that I'd like to punch you in the face but would drop my bear. I was not the one that used every venacular of the word fuck to make a point! And just so you know, there are others styles of music other than Great White and Bon Jovi! I know that, it's apparent that you don't!

Musician my ass, I'm proud of my art. It goes back to constructive critism and please save us from your crass retorts. I have worked hard in music as I'm sure that these guys have. I was just stating what I thougt and you had to beek off with your crassness. Well, right back at ya threefold! PS Wasn't joisting, just standing up for myself! - Sun, 18 May 2003 8:07pm
Anon386 "So keep your crass insults to yourself, if you don't want'em back threefold! "

Ha ha ref. You sound like the americans and their anti terrorism stuff.

Opera singers could never hold up in a metal environment with the stupidly late nights and copious amounts of liquor consumption. - Sun, 18 May 2003 8:08pm
Wreaker of Havoc
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heheh I wish I said that - Sun, 18 May 2003 8:13pm
The Ref Haha... Well from what I know, Freddy Mercury was a tad of a partier and a highly trained operetic vertuoso. But we digress, I will check out the final track and see if it's any more to my liking. I'm sure that others will like it regardless. Keep it going! - Sun, 18 May 2003 8:16pm
Howard And Ill tell ya, Wreakers sisters tight bum is tighter and warmer than Wreakers by a long shot! I like to go from one to the other with each stroke. - Sun, 18 May 2003 8:19pm
Anon386 It is truly surprising sometimes who turns out to be a heavy drinker etc.

I just love how the self inflicted group is bringing on public critiques of their music. Perfect name. - Sun, 18 May 2003 8:19pm
_Griphin_
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So how did the overdubbing go this weekend?!? Does the demo sound any better now?!? - Sun, 18 May 2003 8:43pm
Anonymous Freddy Mercury.....The Ref....Im starting to see a pattern....Hmmmmmm coincidence? I think not - Sun, 18 May 2003 10:01pm
Anonymous I think that The Ref is really Laprider in disguise! If not he is most certainly a laprider, per say. - Sun, 18 May 2003 11:14pm
BBJones
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Griphin, the new mixed version sounded way cooler in the studio and on my roomates stereo (best home stereo I've ever heard!), but many more samples to try out. But really it doesn't matter cuase we ain't mixing it again... just needs mastering.

Kick drums came way up, bass came up and some of the vocals were redone and the entire mix was redone so yeah, we think it sounds better... certainly good enough for us for 4 hours of recording and 8 hours of mixing it twice.

Can't thank Gary at Rat's Nest enough. He made it all painless. - Mon, 19 May 2003 3:59am
_Griphin_
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Yeah, Gary is pretty experienced in recording, and you can learn a lot from him. His rates are some of the best, a lot of people I think underestimate what he can do, shame really. I mean the Rats Nest ain't no Full Circle studios, but it's a start for up and coming bands. You planning to replace the tracks on the website with the new mixes?!? I'll have to hear how the new stuff sounds. - Mon, 19 May 2003 4:31am
BBJones
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Yeah mix 2 (final mix) goes up tomorrow morning (Monday).

Might even put up a new track =) - Mon, 19 May 2003 4:40am
The Ref Hey RB, they're after me now???? Hope that my girlfriend doesn't read this board! - Mon, 19 May 2003 1:46pm
The Ref Wow, ten times better! Not into that style myself but much better there RB! - Mon, 19 May 2003 6:18pm
Glen Campbell "Scatfest can be done in any style. Dizzie and Bird used to do it whenever they played together"

I would pay a fair amount of money to see Aaron Clark and this bozo, The Ref have a scatoff. Charlie Parker? Dizzie? You think you're in the same league? Man, you're sad (the Ref that is, not Aaron) Self Inflicted was Ok---but Antischism did it way better 15 years ago---more punk/less metal----mad as fuck teenage girl singing----but then again----play what you play and I''ll shut up.

PS--A SCATOFF? IN VICTORIA? IN 2003? THAT'S WORSE THAN HIPPY BEAT POETRY OVER FUNKY JAZZ BASS--AND THAT'S THE DEFINATE BOTTOM, MY FRIENDS----YUCK.... except for what maybe Chris Buck is doing now. - Mon, 19 May 2003 6:38pm
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Everytime I see the word scat I think of the word shit. What are you talking about?!? - Mon, 19 May 2003 7:59pm
The Ref Hey Glen, never said that I was in the same legue. However, would get up with anyone and have a blast. How'bout you??? Do you even play anything??? Keep your crass comments to yourself! I look forward to the day that idiots like you open mouth and insert both feet!!! Oh yea, and no one needs your worthless approvals! - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:33pm
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the ref youre so BOOOOOORRRRRRINNNNNNGGGGG. Same post different target. Yaaaaaaawwwwwwnnnn. "Crass comments" "feet in open mouth" blablabla - Tue, 20 May 2003 1:39pm
The Ref Hey Reeker - whyyyy I odaaaaah! Wooobbooopboooboooboop! Nghaa nghaaaa nnnnghaa! Comeeaaaah!

Oh! And I forgot, what is it that you play again??? Haha - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:13pm
Anacronismguy Seems to be allot of "walk's heavyly and carries very small sicks" out there! - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:17pm
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my organ - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:18pm
The Ref YOU HAVE AN ORGAN?????? - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:19pm
Anonymous yeah it is one of those compact carry anywhere models. really compact. - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:21pm
The Ref Oh yea, and with a handle like Glen Campbell, you have no right to slagg Jazz in any way, shape or form! - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:21pm
Anonymous Compact, yea, I believe that! Compact haha! You mean mini! - Tue, 20 May 2003 2:23pm
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